Revenue Rewired

Jay Feitlinger and Sarah Shepard

Reimagine how you approach marketing, sales, and revenue growth with the Revenue Rewired podcast. Hosted by StringCan Interactive’s CEO Jay Feitlinger and COO Sarah Shepard, this podcast dives into the biggest challenges mid-market B2B companies face. Weekly this dynamic duo breaks down complex strategies into actionable insights to help you align your business, maximize ROI, and drive measurable growth. No jargon (ok maybe a lil), but mainly just straight talk to fuel your revenue engine. Tune in and take your business to the next level.

  1. 22H AGO

    Ep 54: Why Your CRM Is a Swamp And How to Fix It

    Most companies assume their CRM problem is a tool problem. It isn't. In this episode, we expose the real culprit: the broken system living inside the tool. From cycling through four CRMs in 16 years to a client who found only 13 usable contacts after weeks of launch prep, Jay and Sarah break down exactly why CRM swamps form, and what it actually takes to drain them. If your team has ever imported contacts and forgotten them, switched platforms hoping for a fresh start, or wondered why nobody trusts the dashboard, this episode was made for you. The tool is not the problem; your system is. Discover why switching CRM platforms without fixing your internal processes just recreates the same swamp.Nobody owns it, so nobody fixes it. Learn why the absence of a dedicated CRM owner is the single fastest path to data rot.Your bloated database is quietly raising your bill. Jay shares a real story where one unchecked import doubled a company's HubSpot contact count and they didn't find out until renewal.Clean data isn't optional once AI enters the picture. Find out why the future value of your AI investment is being decided right now by the hygiene of your CRM and what to do before it's too late.Being ruthless with your database is a competitive advantage. Sarah walks through how StringCan eliminated 90% of their own database during a migration and why it made them faster, not weaker.Chapter 2:04 The question that exposes everything If your CRM disappeared tomorrow, would your business get better or worse? Why does this single question cut through the noise faster than any audit? 4:09 Four CRMs in 16 years — StringCan's honest confession From spreadsheets to Pipedrive to Salesforce to HubSpot and back again. Why did even the experts fall into the shiny object trap? 7:46 The number one root cause nobody talks about: no owner Why CRMs fail before a single contact is entered, and the two executive motivations that launch a CRM for the wrong reasons. 12:36 Welcome to the CRM swamp — and why you are not alone The set-it-and-forget-it mentality explained. How bad data hygiene is already sabotaging your AI strategy, whether you have started using AI or not. 16:18 A real client: 12 sales reps, zero consistency, total chaos Jay breaks down what happens when aggressive revenue goals collide with a CRM nobody is managing and why one rep was only logging in on Fridays. 20:22 Be the ruthless closet cleaner, how to migrate the right way Sarah's case for deleting 90% of your database before migrating, why FOMO about contacts costs you clarity, and what quality over quantity looks like in practice. 24:05 The re-opt-in gamble that paid off A client with 50–60K contacts needed to launch ABM. Here is the uncomfortable strategy that actually worked, and why losing contacts was the win. 27:20 Change management: the most underrated CRM skill Why your rollout needs ground-level champions, not just executive dashboards, and the difference between running a focused pilot and just playing with the tool. Keywords: CRM strategy, revenue operations, sales marketing alignment, data quality, pipeline management, HubSpot, CRM adoption, B2B marketing, mid-market growth, sales process, marketing strategy, lead management, revenue systems, customer database, funnel optimization, CRM migration, database hygiene, change management, ABM strategy, AI data readiness. Revenue Rewired is a podcast for B2B marketers, sales leaders, and business owners navigating the intersection of sales and marketing. Hosted by Jay Feitlinger and Sarah Shepard, each episode delivers actionable insights for mid market companies looking to grow revenue strategically. Contact Us: Email: podcast@stringcaninteractive.com Reach out to the hosts on LinkedIn: Jay Feitlinger: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jayfeitlinger/ Sarah Shepard: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahshepardcoo/ Newsletter: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/crm-swamp-you-built-jay-feitlinger-v4pee

    39 min
  2. MAR 26

    Ep 53: Strategy Without Execution Is Just Expensive Advice

    Strategy without execution isn't a plan. It's an expensive document no one can act on. In this episode of Revenue Rewired, Jay Feitlinger and Sarah Shepard tackle a bold claim that stopped a room full of business leaders cold: consultancies are dead. They don't agree with the headline, but they do agree with the problem underneath it. When a consultant hands you a 100-page report and walks away, you haven't bought strategy. You've bought confusion. Jay and Sarah break down what actually has to change, and what to do before you hire anyone. WHAT YOU'LL LEARN Why "consultancies are dead" is wrong, but the frustration driving that claim is completely validThe two types of companies that hire outside advisors and what each one actually needs to succeedHow a 100-page strategy report with no execution path costs you twice: once in fees, once in lost timeThe visionary/integrator dynamic that is the missing ingredient in most consulting engagementsThe one question every business leader must ask any consultant before signing anything CHAPTERS 0:00 - Wait, are consultancies actually dead? 1:00 - The AI ROI conference moment that sparked this whole conversation 3:12 - Jay's take: why "X is dead" is almost always a headline, not a truth 3:59 - The real problem: overwhelmed teams can't execute the advice they paid for 6:26 - The two buckets every company falls into when they hire outside help 8:00 - The $20M+ manufacturer who got a full CRM strategy and didn't own a CRM 11:26 - Capacity is the hidden variable that kills even the best strategic plans 13:25 - The visionary/integrator dynamic and why it determines everything 17:52 - What to ask a consultant before you sign anything 20:13 - What "we consult and execute" actually looks like day to day 24:57 - Why templatizing your delivery kills client outcomes 27:00 - Wrap-up: be outcome-driven and clear, full stop KEY INSIGHT Strategy only has value if someone can execute it. Before you hire a consultant, audit your own execution capacity first. If you don't have an integrator or implementer in place, the best strategic plan in the world will sit in a folder and cost you twice: once in fees and once in the time you lost not moving. HOST INFORMATION Jay Feitlinger  Visionary CEO, StringCan Interactive  linkedin.com/in/jayfeitlinger Sarah Shepard  No-Nonsense COO, StringCan Interactive  linkedin.com/in/sarahshepardcoo ABOUT REVENUE REWIRED Revenue Rewired is a podcast for B2B marketers, sales leaders, and business owners navigating the intersection of sales and marketing. Hosted by Jay Feitlinger and Sarah Shepard, each episode delivers actionable insights for mid-market companies looking to grow revenue strategically. ABOUT STRINGCAN INTERACTIVE StringCan Interactive is a strategic B2B marketing agency specializing in revenue operations, HubSpot, ABM, and growth strategy, with execution built in from day one since 2010. CONTACT Email: podcast@stringcaninteractive.com  Website: www.stringcaninteractive.com Buy the Revenue Rewired Book: amazon.com/Revenue-Rewired-Identify-Leaks-Costing-ebook/dp/B0FST7JCXQ Keywords: lead quality, lead volume, vanity metrics, B2B marketing, sales and marketing alignment, revenue operations, attribution, funnel optimization, mid-market growth, customer experience, sales process, marketing strategy, lead generation

    28 min
  3. MAR 19

    Ep 52: ABM Is Not a Strategy. It Is a Fight. w/ Guest Jessica Fewless

    You have been doing account-based marketing for years. You might not have been doing ABM at all. In this episode of Revenue Rewired, Sarah Shepard sits down with Jessica Fewless, co-author of Account-Based Marketing and one of the architects who helped build the ABM category from the ground up, to cut through a decade of confusion about what ABM actually is and why most companies are still getting it wrong. Jessica has trained more than 10,000 marketers on ABM principles, watched hundreds of programs succeed and fail, and has the kind of earned credibility that comes from living inside this problem for 25 years. The conversation goes deep on what separates intentional marketing from the spray-and-pray demand gen that sales teams have been complaining about forever. Jessica breaks down the real reason ABM programs collapse before they produce results, what the shift from demand generation to buyer enablement means for how marketing and sales need to operate, and why the MQL was never going to save anyone. What You Will Learn Why ABM is intentional marketing and how that is fundamentally different from running targeted ads to a broad listWhat a real target account list looks like versus the one sales hands you and immediately forgets aboutWhy buying groups are not a replacement for ABM but a deeper level of sophistication inside itHow 80 percent of the buying journey now happens before anyone talks to your sales team, and what that means for your budgetWhy companies that cut marketing teams in 2025 to hire more salespeople made exactly the wrong callThe one piece of advice Jessica gives every client before they sign their next software contractHow to make the internal case for walking away from MQL volume when leadership is addicted to the numberChapters 0:00 — Why Your ABM Program Might Just Be Expensive Targeting2:33 — What ABM Actually Means and Why It Took a Whole Category to Explain It9:24 — Who Should Own ABM: Sales, Marketing, or Both?12:00 — The ICP vs. Target Account List Distinction Nobody Talks About15:14 — How ABM Has Evolved From 2013 to 2026: Intent Data, Signals, and Buyer Control18:40 — Buying Groups: The Missing Layer Inside Every ABM Motion22:48 — Why Personalized Ads Are Not ABM: Relevance vs. Recognition26:23 — Did We Name This Wrong? The Identity Crisis of Account-Based MarketingEpisode Summary You have been doing account-based marketing for years. You might not have been doing ABM at all. Sarah Shepard sits down with Jessica Fewless, co-author of Account-Based Marketing and one of the architects who helped build the ABM category from the ground up, to cut through a decade of confusion about what ABM actually is and why most companies are still getting it wrong. Jessica has trained more than 10,000 marketers, watched hundreds of programs succeed and fail, and brings 25 years of earned credibility to one uncomfortable truth: until sales and marketing are working from the same account list with the same definition of a qualified opportunity, every tool and campaign you run is just organized noise. Keywords: account-based marketing, ABM strategy, B2B marketing, sales and marketing alignment, target account list, buying groups, demand generation, buyer enablement, revenue operations, MQL, pipeline development, B2B sales, intent data, mid market growth, revenue strategy Contact Us: Email: podcast@stringcaninteractive.com Website: www.stringcaninteractive.com Reach out to the hosts on LinkedIn: Jay Feitlinger: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jayfeitlinger/ Sarah Shepard: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahshepardcoo/ Find Jessica on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/jfewless Buy Jessica’s book: https://www.amazon.com/Account-Based-Marketing-Target-Companies-Revenue/dp/1119572002  Buy the Revenue Rewired book: https://www.amazon.com/Revenue-Rewired-Identify-Leaks-Costing-ebook/dp/B0FST7JCXQ

    44 min
  4. MAR 12

    Ep 51: Why Your Search Traffic Tanked and Why It's Not Your Marketing Team's Fault

    Your search traffic is down. Before you blame your marketing team, you need to hear this. In this episode of Revenue Rewired, Jay Feitlinger and Sarah Shepard break down why organic search performance is dropping across industries and why it has very little to do with your marketing team's execution. From the early days of keyword stuffing and black hat SEO to the rise of zero-click search and AI assistants, Jay and Sarah trace how the rules of search have completely changed underneath companies who were still playing the old game. They share a real client story from a highly competitive eye care and LASIK center in Phoenix that was losing ground despite strong historical performance. After implementing a combined SEO, AEO, and GEO program, the practice saw 171% growth in impressions and over 3,200 high-intent conversions, and started showing up accurately in ChatGPT, Gemini, and Claude. What You Will Learn: Why blaming your marketing team for dropping traffic is the wrong move, and what the real culprit actually isThe three search games running simultaneously right now, and why playing only one is costing you leadsHow a Phoenix eye care practice went from invisible to dominating AI search results in monthsWhy leads coming from AI search arrive more pre-qualified and ready to buy fasterThe one free diagnostic move every business owner should do this week to spot their visibility gapEpisode Chapters: 0:00 - Welcome + Jay calls in live from Italy (yes, really)3:25 - The Wild West origins of SEO: keyword stuffing, black hat tricks and how it all started7:27 - Zero-click search hit and nobody connected the dots. Here is what companies missed10:28 - The Horizon Eye case study: how one practice reversed a losing streak with SEO + AEO + GEO14:01 - Impressions without clicks is the new normal. What that means for your strategy17:59 - Why your leads are suddenly smarter and how AI search is speeding up your sales cycle22:04 - The one move to take this week: ask an LLM about your business and prepare to be surprisedKey insight from this episode: Before you overhaul your SEO strategy or point fingers at your marketing team, do a proper diagnostic. Go ask ChatGPT or Gemini to describe your business. What comes back will tell you more about your visibility problem than any dashboard report. About Revenue Rewired: Revenue Rewired is a podcast for B2B marketers, sales leaders, and business owners navigating the intersection of sales and marketing. Hosted by Jay Feitlinger and Sarah Shepard, each episode delivers actionable insights for mid market companies looking to grow revenue strategically. Contact Us: Email: podcast@stringcaninteractive.com Website: www.stringcaninteractive.com Reach out to the hosts on LinkedIn: Jay Feitlinger: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jayfeitlinger/ Sarah Shepard: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahshepardcoo/ Buy the Revenue Rewired book: https://www.amazon.com/Revenue-Rewired-Identify-Leaks-Costing-ebook/dp/B0FST7JCXQ Keywords: lead quality, lead volume, vanity metrics, B2B marketing, sales and marketing alignment, revenue operations, attribution, funnel optimization, mid market growth, customer experience, sales process, marketing strategy, lead generation, sales growth, sales strategy, revenue optimization

    25 min
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Reimagine how you approach marketing, sales, and revenue growth with the Revenue Rewired podcast. Hosted by StringCan Interactive’s CEO Jay Feitlinger and COO Sarah Shepard, this podcast dives into the biggest challenges mid-market B2B companies face. Weekly this dynamic duo breaks down complex strategies into actionable insights to help you align your business, maximize ROI, and drive measurable growth. No jargon (ok maybe a lil), but mainly just straight talk to fuel your revenue engine. Tune in and take your business to the next level.