Most people who build something on the side never find out whether it could replace their job. My brother did.For thirteen years Kip Bucey worked at Collins Aerospace: an intern bugging people about overdue training, then a buyer of parts for human spaceflight, including the Orion capsule on Artemis I, and finally a site lead responsible for a business unit of about 200 people. During this time, he and a business partner were building MPI-K9, a security company that provides armed protection, executive protection, and working dogs. Their website sold nothing for four years. Today the company runs about 100 people worldwide and handled security at the Republican National Convention. Six weeks ago he left Collins to run it full time.We talk about the part most stories skip: the years of doing both, the conditions he set before he would leave, and what he learned about winning contracts from years spent on the buying side.In this episode:Where the hours came from, and why a business partner made it possibleThe routines behind it: 4:30 a.m. workouts, automated invoicing, AI for proposalsWhy buying back your time beats working harderThe boxes he had to check before leaving a steady paycheckThe income curve, year by year, and when the lines crossedWhat our dad, 42 years at one company, would have asked himWhat the buying side taught him about how contracts are really wonWhy reliability and relationships beat the lowest bid"It might not be your fault, but it's your problem"Kip Bucey is COO of MPI-K9: https://mpik9.comChapters00:00 Who Kip is and what MPI-K9 does01:45 When the side gig outgrows the main one03:32 Thirteen years at Collins, intern to site lead04:26 Buying parts for human spaceflight06:17 How MPI-K9 started: a gym, a partner, a website07:09 Four years without selling a single dog08:57 Sports management, then an MBA10:46 Choosing Collins over the Blackhawks12:31 Site lead: 200 people, six direct reports14:23 MPI-K9 today: 100 people, run lean16:16 Running both: nights, weekends, a different kind of work19:01 Why a business partner made it possible19:52 The routines: 4:30 a.m. workouts and clear thinking21:43 Automating invoices and proposals22:40 Why working harder is not the answer23:33 Buying back your time24:31 Security at the Republican National Convention25:25 Taking vacation days to work the second job28:06 Security doesn't run on your calendar29:04 The boxes he had to check before leaving30:50 The income curve, and the year it flipped31:44 A bird in the hand: what dad would have said35:18 From buyer to seller: how contracts are won38:00 A small industry, and competitors who aren't enemies38:51 The water bowl at the Cubs game41:32 Business is business, at any scale45:08 "Do you have any 737s?"46:56 Accidentally becoming student body president51:26 It might not be your fault, but it's your problem53:13 Where to find MPI-K9Squared Away Life is a tactical approach to stewardship across six areas of life: knowledge, time, finances, health, work, and legacy.Get a free pre-publication copy of The Compounding Mind:https://www.squaredawaylife.com/newsletterThe daily review, written up in full:https://www.squaredawaylife.com/dailyreviewRelated episode: Heroic Effort Doesn't Scalehttps://youtu.be/Q3nNUOZybEE#Stewardship #SideBusiness #Entrepreneurship #Leadership #Security #SquaredAwayLife