Education Matters

Education Matters

Hannah and Lucy talk about teaching through the winter.

  1. Jul 14

    Education Matters | Virginia Kerr

    Virginia Kerr has been a TV reporter, a news anchor, a social media strategist with a TikTok following approaching a million and a YouTube educator who built a seven year business teaching storytelling from a converted laundry room … and so much more … . At fifty-two, with that career already stacked high with achievement, she has decided to become a full time high school teacher, taking on audio and video production classes for teenagers who mostly have no idea who she is or what she used to do. Virginia is candid about walking into a school where nobody knows her despite decades in front of a camera and a level of local recognition most people spend a career chasing. She talks Paul through the discomfort of becoming a first year teacher, "I feel like a rookie who's gonna get hazed," she admits, before adding the line that anchors the episode, that the twenty two year old version of her could never have made this move, but the fifty two year old finally can. Chat moves through why Virginia left television, the exhaustion of chasing numbers on social media and the moment she realised constant reinvention had been leading somewhere all along. She reflects honestly on an old instinct to prove herself through titles and promotions, and how none of it ever brought the purpose she was chasing. "Our stories are our superpower," she says, describing why she stopped trying to sound like an expert and started sounding like herself. Paul and Virginia talk at length about authenticity in front of a class and how the skills of building an audience translate, or fail to translate, into building rapport with fifteen to seventeen year olds. Virginia describes the balance new teachers are told to strike early on, projecting enough authority that pupils take instructions seriously, while still being recognisably human once trust is established. She is candid that she is holding some of her natural openness in check in the first weeks, partly because her own son is in one of her classes. There is a strong thread centred on wellbeing running throughout the episode. Virginia describes cutting news and social media scrolling from her routine and the surprising effect that had on her cortisol levels according to her doctor. She credits a teacher she admires online, CJ Reynolds, for the idea of protecting your mindset before you walk into a room full of teenagers and cites the writer and career changer Lucy Kellaway on the particular humility required when decades of professional respect count for nothing on day one in teaching. Paul draws out the practical realities too, five classes of up to thirty pupils, projects built around storytelling rather than technical process and the logistics of pupils leaving the classroom to film unsupervised around the school site. Virginia explains why she is flipping the traditional curriculum for the subject, leading with narrative and purpose before technical editing skills, and how she plans to use video from pupils she already knows from her time as a substitute teacher and school social media coordinator to bring lessons to life. This is a conversation about courage, about starting again in public and about what it actually takes to move from high visibility work into a classroom of thirty teenagers who, in some cases, could not care less how many followers you once had. Anyone thinking about a late career change into teaching, or already living through one, will find plenty here that’s valuable, informative and just plain absorbing. New episodes of Education Matters land regularly, so subscribe and follow wherever you listen to make sure you never miss a conversation like this one.

  2. Jul 13

    Education Matters | Katrina Bradley

    Paul Hazzard is joined by Katrina Bradley, a former music teacher turned numeracy specialist, resource designer and entrepreneur, for a conversation that ranges across curiosity, confidence and what it actually takes to make maths click. Katrina traces her own path from a music degree and eight years as a peripatetic music teacher to retraining as a primary school teacher, and explains how the skills she used teaching rhythm, notation and metre turned out to be exactly the skills she now uses teaching mathematics. She talks about her love of "puzzle solving" over "problem solving," a deliberate reframing that removes the anxiety many children attach to the word problem before they've even attempted it. Katrina shares a lovely workshop story about asking primary pupils whether there's maths in the supermarket and watching the thumbs-down paddles slowly turn to thumbs-up once they realise maths is already everywhere in their daily lives, including, inevitably, in their maths homework. The conversation moves into early years practice, where Katrina describes auditing nursery outdoor spaces to build mathematically rich environments, the kind where children naturally sort, measure and pattern without being taught a formal lesson, and argues that primary schools could learn a great deal from what nurseries already do so well. Paul and Katrina discuss the deep link between self-belief and mathematical ability, with Paul sharing his own lifelong sense of not being "a maths person" despite a natural knack for estimation, and Katrina makes the case that maths should be broken into smaller components rather than treated as a single subject you're either good or bad at. She talks candidly about how maths can "annihilate confidence" in a way few other subjects do, and why celebrating different routes to the same answer, not just the right answer, matters so much in the classroom. Conversation moves to mathematical talk and vocabulary, including the striking example of a resource that couldn't be translated into Polish because English has so many different words for multiplication and why children without the language to explain their thinking often stay silent or overuse whatever words they do have. Katrina explains the origins of her business, born out of the pandemic when parents were crying out for the manipulatives and visual resources schools use but families didn't have at home and how that grew into Connectrio and a full suite of tools now used everywhere from nursery classrooms to regional colleges teaching essential skills. Katrina is refreshingly honest about the tension between being pushed towards "ed tech" framing by investors and staying true to her belief that children need concrete, physical resources rather than more screens. There's a brilliant moment where Katrina explains how modern times tables teaching uses mathematical reasoning, working from a secure fact like ten sixes to reach a trickier one like nine sixes, and recalls a parent in one of her sessions accusing her of "cheating" for teaching it that way rather than by rote. Paul and Katrina also get into the pressures of running a business built on a teacher's instincts, from product compliance and manufacturing to social media and the guilt of never quite switching off, and draw some sharp parallels between burnout in teaching and burnout in entrepreneurship. The episode closes on a genuinely important question for anyone involved in maths education: at what point does teaching to the test start working against a child's ability to use maths for life? Katrina's answer, rooted in years of classroom and boardroom experience, is that children need to understand the why of mathematics, not just the how. This is an essential conversation for teachers, parents and anyone who has ever doubted their own mathematical ability. Follow Education Matters wherever you get your podcasts for more conversations shaping teaching and learning across the UK.

  3. Jul 12

    Teaching Matters | Shuffling Numbers, Boom n Bust & Primary Languages

    John and Paul co-host the weekly panel show Teaching Matters and explore the Guardian investigation into a school inquiry, led by Estelle Morris and backed by the Department for Education, that recommends high-performing schools admit more disadvantaged white working-class pupils. This story reads like a cautionary tale about school privatisation. Durham High School, owned by the China-linked Galaxy Global Education Group, has closed its doors with almost no warning, leaving pupils mid-exam and a whole community reeling. John makes the point that once a school becomes an asset rather than an institution, closure is only ever a spreadsheet decision away. It's a wide-ranging conversation about school leadership, trust governance, marketisation and what happens when market capitalism collides with the classroom, made sharper by the irony that Durham had been named Sunday Times Independent School of the Year for the North East barely a year earlier. Paul and John ask what accountability, if any, should follow decades of privatisation policy. New research from the British Council finds that nearly half of primary schools in England struggle to find curriculum time for languages, and Paul and John use it to interrogate the whole idea of a knowledge-rich curriculum. If primary timetables are already bursting at the seams, what gets squeezed out, and what does that mean for language learning further down the line into secondary education? Paul draws on his own experience of Irish medium education in Northern Ireland to make the case for early language immersion and its impact on children's confidence, while John wonders whether curriculum design has simply forgotten what primary school is actually for. Banana time closes the episode on a properly reflective note. Paul borrows from Albert Camus, quoting the philosopher's claim that "what I know most surely about morality and duty, I owe to football," and draws out the parallels between the pitch and the classroom, from unpredictability to shared rules regardless of background to the constant demand to react in the moment, before bringing in Paulo Freire's idea of radical, dialogic education. John's banana this week is a fascinating tale about pigeons. Behavioural experiments show that even pigeons, having found a food strategy that reliably works, will abandon it just to see what else might happen, and John makes the case that this same appetite for chaos explains a good deal of classroom behaviour, and probably deserves a little more patience and curiosity from teachers than it usually gets. Teaching Matters will be back in late August or early September with more stories, more debate and more banana time. Until then, subscribe or follow wherever you get your podcasts so you don't miss the return.

    Teaching Matters | Shuffling Numbers, Boom n Bust & Primary Languages
  4. Jul 11

    The Hannah & Lucy Show | Damned If You Do, Damned If You Don't!

    Lucy and Hannah are back on The Hannah and Lucy Show with the episode teachers have been quietly nodding along to since the last bell of summer term rang, Damned If You Do, Damned If You Don't. Recorded in that strange, sun-baked, brain-fried week between the end of exams and the actual holidays, this one takes on everything the summer term throws at teachers, parents and pupils alike, and asks why so much of it feels like a trap with no right answer. It starts with the calendar itself. Sports days, summer fairs, end-of-year assemblies, all crammed into the hottest, busiest weeks of the year and scheduled as though every parent has nothing else on. Lucy pulls apart a recent Independent piece on exactly this tension, with figures showing that seventy four percent of families with school-aged children now have two parents in work, over half of them full-time. Hannah, a working mother juggling shifting after-school care and a co-parenting arrangement, brings the lived reality of trying to be in two places at once. As Hannah puts it, "I think all teachers should be prescribed a bit of water," a line that lands somewhere between joke and genuine plea after a term that has taken it out of everyone. From there the conversation moves to the heatwave school closures that made headlines this summer, and the government messaging around attendance that Lucy and Hannah both find maddening in its refusal to offer practical alternatives. That leads naturally into the World Cup, where more than three hundred thousand pupils were recorded absent the morning after England's win over Mexico. Rather than simply tutting at the numbers, the pair dig into the teachable moments buried in major tournaments, from conversations about patriotism versus nationalism to the idea that racism is learned rather than innate, and the missed opportunity schools have to use football as a way into difficult, honest classroom discussion. School uniform gets a proper airing too, from the case for PE kit as an all-day option to the absurdity of ties, blazers and socks becoming disciplinary flashpoints. Lucy is unambiguous on the subject, offering one of the episode's sharpest lines: "school is meant to be a great leveller," and both hosts agree the current system too often achieves the opposite. The conversation widens further into the attainment and attendance gap facing working-class white boys, a topic that rarely gets serious airtime, alongside the wider question of how schools communicate expectations to parents when home-school relationships still bear the scars of the pandemic. There is space too for the Department for Education's £700,000 spend on influencers, a detail both hosts find hard to let go of, and a genuinely useful detour into a token-based strategy for managing screen time at home, swapping telly minutes for reading time without a single raised voice. Detentions come under scrutiny as well, weighing the relationship-building value of teacher-led sanctions against the efficiency of centralised systems, with a nod to using film and documentary in the dying days of term when everyone, staff included, is simply trying to get to the finish line. Underneath the jokes about friendship bracelets, sea swims and Elvis wigs sits a genuinely thoughtful hour on teacher wellbeing, school leadership, parental engagement and the realities of classroom practice at the sharpest end of the school year. It is Education Matters at its most human: two experienced teachers thinking out loud about the profession they love, the pupils they worry about and the policies that make their jobs harder than they need to be. If you work in education, parent a school-aged child, or just want an honest, funny, occasionally furious take on what the summer term is really like, this one is for you. Subscribe to Education Matters and follow The Hannah and Lucy Show so you never miss an episode, and do let us know which side of the detention debate you land on.

    The Hannah & Lucy Show | Damned If You Do, Damned If You Don't!
  5. Jul 5

    Teaching Matters | Heat, Awards & Bad Language

    Paul Hazzard and John Gibbs co-host Teaching Matters. The first story explores Richard Adams and Fiona Harvey's report in The Guardian that our school estate, much of it built well past its intended lifespan, simply isn't ready for the extremes we're now living through. Paul and John talk through the astonishing case of Matford Brook Academy in Exeter, a brand new school demolished before a single pupil ever sat in it, and ask why so much school architecture chases cheapness and modernist minimalism over comfort, craftsmanship and durability. John argues that huts, damp classrooms and stifling summer heat have been a feature of school life for decades, and that the real question isn't why this heatwave caught us out, but why we've never properly fixed our buildings. There's a sharp aside on the Japanese concept of 'attendancism', the idea that simply turning up is treated as a virtue in itself. For story two, they turn to the TES Schools Awards 2026, reported by Cerys Turner, and ask whether education needs its own version of the Oscars. Both Paul and John are self-confessed sceptics of awards culture, not because recognition doesn't matter, but because, as John puts it, teaching is "surprisingly more teamwork than it is anything else." They explore the cult of the super head, the quiet, unglamorous graft of teachers who never get near a stage or a statuette, and whether celebrating individual brilliance risks obscuring the collective effort that actually makes schools work. John makes the memorable point that a teacher can only be as good as the school that lets them be that teacher, and that timetabling, workload and support matter far more than any individual gift for the job. It's a properly provocative discussion, and Paul admits from the outset it might get him into a bit of trouble, asserting that "teaching isn't a sport". The third story takes them into Westminster, where Alexandra Topping's Guardian report on a fractious PMQs, featuring Kemi Badenock's fiery exchange with Keir Starmer and a swipe at Bridget Phillipson, prompts a wider conversation about political rhetoric, performative anger and what all of it models for young people watching, however indirectly, from the classroom. John makes the case that rage has become shorthand for authenticity in modern discourse, and that the more baffled people feel by the world, the angrier they tend to sound. They discuss whether chamber language is genuinely protected, why the Speaker intervened over Badenock's choice of words, and what Farage and Trump's brand of populist grievance owes to the same performative instincts. It's sharp, funny and unafraid to name what's really going on. As always, the episode closes with the bananas, Paul and John's weekly offering of something genuinely worth thinking about. Paul's is the Pygmalion Effect, drawn from Robert Rosenthal and Lenore Jacobson's 1965 Oak School Experiment, the study that showed how the words we use to describe a child's potential can directly shape what that child becomes. John's is a lovely, meandering reflection on tidying bookshelves, and what the books we keep, the ones we'll never read again and the ones we can't quite let go of, reveal about who we are. Teaching Matters continues to do what it does best, taking the week's education stories seriously without ever taking itself too seriously. Expect genuine warmth, proper disagreement where it counts and the kind of conversation that will have you nodding along on the school run. If you care about teacher education, school leadership, educational policy or simply want smart, human conversation about the state of our schools, this episode delivers. Follow Teaching Matters wherever you get your podcasts, and join Paul, John and guests next week for more stories shaping classroom practice, pedagogy and professional life across the world.

    Teaching Matters | Heat, Awards & Bad Language
  6. Jun 21

    Teaching Matters | Boys Are Different, Good Leader – Good Parent & Smacking Shock

    John and Paul examine three stories that shed light on crucial matters in education. John and Paul trace Gareth Southgate's claim that boys need to be taught differently from girls back through generations of changing attitudes, from segregated school entrances to suppressed aspirations for girls, before asking the harder question. Are differences between boys and girls down to nature, nurture or something more performed than either? John brings in the case of Clever Hans, the horse who appeared to do arithmetic but was really just reading tiny human cues, as a way into how early children learn to seek parental approval. John reminds us of psychologist Timothy Wilson's 2014 study in which he investigated human aversion to boredom and solitude.  The experiment found that when left alone with their thoughts for 15 minutes, 67% of men and 25% of women chose to administer themselves a mild electric shock rather than simply sit in silence. They also discuss an experiment in which most men, but far fewer women, chose to give themselves a mild electric shock rather than sit with their own boredom. But where do boys find expressions of masculinity now that manual labour and competitive sport offer fewer outlets than before? John and Paul connect this to recent unrest on the streets of Northern Ireland, with Paul describing the violence as "a twisted, warped and dangerous expression" of a masculinity young men have no safe way to channel. They consider how figures like Andrew Tate fill that vacuum for some, while Southgate models a quieter, more reassuring kind of leadership instead. They argue schools should do more to help pupils manage frustration and setback, pointing to Southgate's own missed penalty as a case study in resilience. The second story examines a TES piece by Sam Gibbs, Trust Curriculum and Development Lead at Greater Manchester Education Trust, who argues that leadership and parenting need not be incompatible. Paul and John discuss whether flexible working can suit teaching given fixed timetables, and debate whether someone who has never been a head teacher can credibly support one. John draws a parallel with football management, noting that "some of the best football managers weren't the best football players", while Paul invokes an old line about not needing to be a horse to judge a pony show. They return to Sam's point about small workplace indignities too, the broken photocopier and the grim staffroom kettle, and what these say about whether teachers are treated as professionals. The final story looks at the continuing legality of smacking children in England and Northern Ireland, despite it already being banned in Scotland and Wales. A UCL study links the practice to lower GCSE grades and riskier teenage behaviour. John is unequivocal that legislation is needed, recalling his own experience of corporal punishment at school and arguing that children are not their parents' property. Paul and John discuss what happens when children from households where smacking is normal meet the calmer expectations of school, and whether schemes like Sure Start should be revived for struggling parents. The episode closes with two bananas. Paul shares Carol Dweck's research on praise, showing how praising effort rather than talent shapes whether children grow up willing to take on challenges. John brings a story from the Dutch tradition of avondvierdaagse, an evening neighbourhood walk credited with giving Dutch children some of the happiest childhoods in Europe. A super show that brings insight to many aspects of education and a 'must listen' for everyone who is involved and interested in education.

    Teaching Matters | Boys Are Different, Good Leader – Good Parent & Smacking Shock
  7. Jun 15

    Education Matters | Andrew Young

    What does it really mean to teach adaptively? Not as a buzzword, not as a policy tick-box, but as a living, breathing practice that changes outcomes for real children in real classrooms? That's the question at the heart of our conversation with Andrew Young. Paul is joined by Andrew Young, social sciences teacher, co-director of a Teaching School Hub in York, and author of Adaptive Teaching: Culture to the Classroom, published by Crown House Publishing. With 14 years in the classroom and experience spanning pastoral leadership, curriculum design and large-scale teacher professional development, Andrew brings a grounded, practitioner-led perspective that cuts through a lot of the noise currently surrounding adaptive teaching. They begin with the fundamentals. What is adaptive teaching, and why does Andrew bristle at the phrase "it's just good teaching"? His answer is characteristically direct: "What we know teachers need is what children need. Really concrete language to operationalise and spell out sequences and ideas of what practice should be delivered and when." Vague platitudes, he argues, leave too many children behind. The conversation moves into the neuroscience and child development that underpins effective adaptive practice, cognitive load, executive function and working memory. Andrew explains why these three factors are the connective tissue running beneath the full diversity of SEND conditions, and why understanding them transforms the way teachers approach planning, explanation and assessment. He also tackles the thorny question of diagnostic labels, weighing their genuine usefulness against the risk of what he calls the nocebo effect, where a diagnosis can, through entirely real psychosomatic processes, constrain a child's self-concept and limit their sense of possibility. Modelling gets its own focused treatment. Andrew is candid about how rarely he sees it done well, particularly for newer teachers still building subject knowledge and pedagogical confidence. The I Do, We Do, You Do framework is a sound structure, he says, but dangerously misapplied when schools insist on it in every lesson regardless of where pupils are in their learning journey. Paul and Andrew explore the reactive and proactive dimensions of adaptive teaching, the practical differences between responding to Josie struggling at the back of the room right now and designing a curriculum sequence that anticipated her difficulties weeks in advance. That upstream-versus-downstream distinction is one of the book's sharpest ideas and it is explored clearly here. They examine the role of teaching assistants, professional development, lesson observation and the pressure of a curriculum that Andrew acknowledges can favour what he calls "the cognitive elite." He's not interested in lowering standards. He's interested in building systems that allow more children to meet them. One of the most thought-provoking moments comes near the end, when Andrew's single practical takeaway isn't a strategy or a resource. It's a call to examine the language used around SEND and disadvantage every day in schools, in staffrooms, in planning meetings. "What we say about people comes from how we're feeling, and what we're saying and feeling is impacting how we're behaving." This episode will resonate with classroom teachers, heads of department, SENCOs, school leaders, teacher educators and anyone working in initial teacher training or early career teacher support. It's a conversation that takes inclusion and adaptive pedagogy seriously without resorting to jargon or empty optimism. Adaptive Teaching: Culture to the Classroom by Andrew Young is published by Crown House Publishing and is available now. Mention is made of The Age of Diagnosis: Are Medical Labels Doing Us More Harm Than Good? by Suzanne O'Sullivan

  8. Jun 12

    The Hannah & Lucy Show | Avoiding Criminality

    What happens when the systems meant to protect children aren't talking to each other, the consequences aren't landing, and teachers are left holding responsibilities that stretch far beyond the classroom? Hannah Wilson and Lucy Neuburger don't pull their punches on this one. The trigger for this episode is a Home Office report revealing that police wrote off thousands of crimes last year, including rapes, violent assaults and drug offences, because the culprits were under 10. Primary age. That figure lands alongside government proposals to raise the age of criminal responsibility in England from 10 to 12, a threshold that has sat unchanged since the 1960s and is now under serious scrutiny. Hannah and Lucy dig into what that actually means in schools. Not in policy terms, but in classrooms, corridors and staffrooms where teachers are already navigating rising violence, gang dynamics, the Manosphere and a cohort of young people consuming content online that normalises behaviour that the law is only just beginning to catch up with. The conversation is frank and wide-ranging. They talk about the recent high-profile rape cases involving teenage boys, the absence of custodial sentences and what that signals to other young people watching. "Kids aren't stupid," Lucy says. "They're going to see they got away with it." Hannah's response is direct: the inconsistency of consequence in the justice system mirrors what she sees in schools, where exclusion and isolation become a revolving door rather than a turning point. They raise serious questions about safeguarding, multi-agency working and the recurring failure of schools, police and social services to communicate effectively. Hannah reflects on teaching students caught up in county lines without ever being told, and on the toll carried by safeguarding leads who hold the full picture in near-total isolation from classroom teachers. "We're not trusted to do our jobs properly," she says, "and it really upsets me." There's a push, too, for something more preventative. Both Hannah and Lucy argue that curriculum time devoted to consent, digital citizenship, online safety law and the real-world consequences of criminal records is not a nice-to-have. It is urgent, it needs to start younger than it currently does, and a twenty-minute slot once a half term isn't close to sufficient. The noise outside school is louder than the voice inside it, and the gap is widening. They also make a case for universal pastoral support, not just for students already in crisis, but for the quiet ones, the ones making jokes to fill the silence, the ones nobody is listening to at home. A proper, qualified presence in every school. Not a tick-box exercise. The episode ends on a note that is, characteristically, equal parts exasperation and hope. A clip of a young person delivering an impromptu, clear-eyed speech about immigration and belonging gets a moment it deserves. As Hannah puts it: "Whoever taught you should be so proud." 🚩 This is The Hannah and Lucy Show doing what it does best, taking the news that everyone else is reporting and asking what it actually looks like from inside a school.

    The Hannah & Lucy Show | Avoiding Criminality

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Hannah and Lucy talk about teaching through the winter.