The Marathon Podcast

Kristian Warwick/Wiild Studio
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Welcome to The Marathon Podcast! 15% off Saysky with code TMP15 The podcast that sponsors non-sponsored athletes. This is a podcast for established runners, future runners, and people interested in running. On this podcast, we will focus on everything running. Science, nutrition, training, gear, and much more. Prepare for a new running companion, elite and non-elite guests, and inspiring stories. Let's run and talk together!

  1. 12h ago

    #222 Stephanie Bruce: A Career in Running, and the Advice That Surprised Me Most

    The Marathon Podcast is now proudly sponsored by Saysky Copenhagen. Use code TMP15 for 15% off at saysky.com. Get 20% off a Strava annual subscription with code KRISTIAN Save on FlexBeam using code WARWICKRUNS or this link: https://rechargehealthas.sjv.io/55GAPb Kristian sits down with Stephanie Bruce, a professional runner of over 15 years and now the head of Project Stamata, supported by Tracksmith, for a conversation Kristian calls pure gold for runners at every level. Stephanie shares her path from a reluctant, unmotivated high school runner to a national champion and longtime pro at HOKA NAZ Elite, and opens up about the sudden loss of her father during her senior year of high school, a moment that changed how she approached the sport. She talks candidly about building a life around running as a mom of three and serial entrepreneur, from co-founding Picky Bars to now leading Project Stamata, a program supporting women chasing the 2028 Olympic Trials. The conversation turns into a genuinely useful masterclass on marathon training, including the one thing Stephanie says matters more than any workout: fueling. In this episode: - A special Boston Marathon cutoff time announcement - From an unmotivated high schooler to a national champion - Losing her father suddenly during her senior year of high school - Building a life in running as a mom of three and serial entrepreneur - Co-founding Picky Bars and years as a pro with HOKA NAZ Elite - Leading Tracksmith's Project Stamata for future Olympic Trials qualifiers - Finding the balance between hardcore dedication and living a full life - Why fueling, not training, is the biggest thing that makes or breaks a marathon cycle - The most common under fueling mistake she sees in athletes - What's next: a national team spot and racing New York in the pro field Timestamps 00:00 Welcome and introducing Stephanie Bruce 02:10 Announcing the podcast's sponsorship with Saysky Copenhagen 02:17 A special Boston Marathon cutoff time announcement 06:52 Welcome to Stephanie and the idea behind this series 09:05 How she landed the role leading Project Stamata 11:19 Stephanie's introduction: 15 years as a pro, mom of three 14:00 An unmotivated high school runner living on Chick-fil-A 14:10 Her father's cancer diagnosis and declining health 14:53 The sudden loss of her father during her senior year 29:07 Finding the right level of dedication for each phase of life 31:07 Diving deeper into her professional running career 36:34 What it means to have Olympian next to your name or not 51:11 The most important thing in marathon training 51:54 Why fueling makes or breaks a training cycle 52:44 The most common under fueling mistake she sees 2:13:10 What's next: a national team and racing New York 2:14:20 Closing thoughts and thank you to Stephanie Stephanie on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/stephrothstein Start your free Musicbed trial: https://fm.pxf.io/kristianwarwick Full episodes + the Boston 2025 documentary: https://www.youtube.com/@Warwickruns Follow my training journey on Instagram: @warwick.runs Music from Musicbed: MB01XPYH8ZYENVAMB0133EV2TCQFZY

    #222 Stephanie Bruce: A Career in Running, and the Advice That Surprised Me Most

  2. 2d ago

    #221 Berlin Marathon 2026: The Elite Race, the Expo, and a 2:53 That Left Me Feeling Mediocre

    The Marathon Podcast is now proudly sponsored by Saysky Copenhagen. Use code TMP15 for 15% off at saysky.com. Get 20% off a Strava annual subscription with code KRISTIAN Save on FlexBeam using code WARWICKRUNS or this link: https://rechargehealthas.sjv.io/55GAPb Kristian is back from the Berlin Marathon with a special solo episode: a recap of the elite race, followed by an honest look at what race weekend in Berlin is really like for a runner. He starts with the elites: Tigst Assefa's course record 2:11:04 and the Achilles injury that came to light afterwards, Guye Adola's 2:02:50 personal best, and former Nordic combined athlete Jakob Lange running 2:13:57. Then Kristian walks through his own weekend, from the expo and the Puma and Saysky activations to the Run and Rave shakeout, and the mistakes and lessons he'd pass on to anyone racing Berlin. He wasn't racing it, so his own run was a 16k progression inside a marathon that ended in 2:53, followed by a candid reflection on why that still left him feeling mediocre. In this episode: - The elite race: Assefa, Adola, and a big result from Jakob Lange - Why Sabastian Sawe missed the race - Meeting the Saysky team at the Berlin expo - How the Berlin expo works and the wristband tip that gets you free public transit - The Puma activation and the Run and Rave shakeout - Race morning: when to actually show up at the start - Why the plastic cups and one sided aid stations are a problem - Running a 16k progression inside a marathon - Comparison culture and feeling mediocre after a 2:53 - Would he recommend Berlin? Timestamps 00:00 Welcome and what this episode covers 00:50 Meeting Tony from Saysky in Berlin 03:41 The elite women: Tigst Assefa's course record 05:31 Assefa's Achilles injury and surgery 06:05 Women's results and the fastest German woman 07:15 The men's race: Adola wins in 2:02:50 07:46 Sabastian Sawe out injured 09:56 Jakob Lange: from Nordic combined to 2:13:57 11:36 Dextro Energy and the Pfeiffers' withdrawal 13:44 Kristian's own Berlin weekend begins 14:43 The expo at the old airport 15:38 Keep the wristband on: free public transit 18:44 Big brands and the Wahoo Kickr Run 21:27 The Puma activation and the sub 4 challenge 22:52 Meeting the Puma Project 3 team 24:15 Running with Ron Runs NYC and a bottle service tip 26:03 Why he likes Berlin more this time 27:39 Saturday shakeouts and marathonweekend.com 30:23 The Puma Run and Rave 33:14 Watching the inline skating race 33:42 The mistake of forgetting throwaway clothes 36:07 The plan with his coach: a 16k progression 40:04 Race morning and how early to arrive 45:14 A flat, fast, crowded course 46:03 Aid stations and the plastic cup problem 51:54 Running the progression too fast 56:23 Dancing with the crowd through the last 10k 57:31 Finishing through the Brandenburg Gate 58:34 Feeling mediocre after a 2:53 1:01:57 Congratulating the Puma Project 3 winners 1:02:45 Final thoughts on Berlin and what's next Start your free Musicbed trial: https://fm.pxf.io/kristianwarwick Full episodes + the Boston 2025 documentary: https://www.youtube.com/@Warwickruns Follow my training journey on Instagram: @warwick.runs Music from Musicbed: MB01XPYH8ZYENVAMB0133EV2TCQFZY

    #221 Berlin Marathon 2026: The Elite Race, the Expo, and a 2:53 That Left Me Feeling Mediocre

  3. 5d ago

    #220 Rachel McCardell: Community running became an OTQ

    The Marathon Podcast is now proudly sponsored by Saysky Copenhagen. Use code TMP15 for 15% off at saysky.com. Get 20% off a Strava annual subscription with code KRISTIAN Save on FlexBeam using code WARWICKRUNS or this link: https://rechargehealthas.sjv.io/55GAPb Kristian sits down with Rachel McCardell, a Puma Project 3 athlete and Olympic Trials qualifier, just days before she lines up at the Berlin Marathon. Rachel shares what it's meant to be part of Puma Project 3 and the running community around it, and opens up about the incredible influence of her college coach at Northwestern, a conversation that Kristian says gave him chills. She talks through her Olympic Trials qualifying race in Chicago, a six minute personal best run with her teammate pacing her the entire way, and how the mindset lessons from her college program have stayed with her well beyond running. The conversation closes with her honest, low pressure approach to goal setting heading into Berlin, and the sub 2:30 time quietly sitting in the back of her mind. https://www.instagram.com/rachel_mccardell/ In this episode: - Being part of Puma Project 3 and the community around it - The Northwestern cross country coach who transformed her mindset - Lessons on teamwork, gratitude, and making hard work fun - Qualifying for the Olympic Trials with a six minute PR in Chicago - Having a teammate pace her through the entire race - Learning to stop putting pressure on time goals - Fueling and nutrition lessons from the Puma Project 3 resources - Her honest, low pressure approach to Berlin - The sub 2:30 time quietly in the back of her mind Timestamps 00:00 Welcome and introducing this Berlin special with Rachel 01:38 Announcing the podcast's sponsorship with Saysky Copenhagen 01:50 Welcome to Rachel, seven days before Berlin 03:28 How it felt to be selected for Puma Project 3 05:09 Fueling: the biggest takeaway from the project 10:05 Deciding to run marathons to stay with her community 10:19 Qualifying for the Olympic Trials in Chicago with a 2:34 11:11 Her teammate Mitch pacing her through the entire race 11:52 The Northwestern coach who gave Kristian chills 17:35 Lessons on teamwork, fun, and gratitude that stuck with her 37:09 Fueling and nutrition lessons from the project 58:03 Race day nutrition strategy explained 1:04:10 Sharing the Chicago moment with her teammate 1:04:51 Her goal for Berlin and why she won't verbalize a time 1:07:03 The sub 2:30 quietly in the back of her mind 1:07:19 Closing thoughts and good luck in Berlin Start your free Musicbed trial: https://fm.pxf.io/kristianwarwick Full episodes + the Boston 2025 documentary: https://www.youtube.com/@Warwickruns Follow my training journey on Instagram: @warwick.runs Music from Musicbed: MB01XPYH8ZYENVAMB0133EV2TCQFZY

    #220 Rachel McCardell: Community running became an OTQ

  4. Sep 23

    #219 Christopher Brenk Lives in the Highest City in America. Now a 2:17 marathoner

    The Marathon Podcast is now proudly sponsored by Saysky Copenhagen. Use code TMP15 for 15% off at saysky.com. Get 20% off a Strava annual subscription with code KRISTIAN Save on FlexBeam using code WARWICKRUNS or this link: https://rechargehealthas.sjv.io/55GAPb Kristian sits down with Christopher Brenk, a Puma Project 3 athlete heading into the Berlin Marathon off the back of a 2:17 personal best in Eugene, for a genuinely unique running story: from Division 3 college racing to training at altitude in the highest city in the United States. Christopher shares how a spontaneous application with his college teammate turned into a Puma Project 3 selection, and what it's meant to suddenly have shoes, gear, and a community built around his marathon racing for the first time. He walks through his path from a small Division 3 program at St. Olaf, through years spent in Sitka, Alaska and Utah, to now living and training in Laramie, Wyoming, the highest elevation D1 city in the country. The conversation covers what it's actually like adapting to serious altitude training, how he thinks about carb intake and race nutrition heading into Berlin, and the strange in between space of running elite times without seeing himself as a professional. In this episode: - Getting selected for Puma Project 3 alongside a college teammate - Having shoes, gear, and a community for the first time - A Division 3 college running background and an unconventional path - Years spent living in Sitka, Alaska and Utah before Wyoming - Moving to the highest elevation city in the US for altitude training - What it's actually like adapting to serious altitude - Balancing running with a full time job at the university registrar - Race nutrition strategy and carb intake heading into Berlin - Chasing a new personal best at the Berlin Marathon Timestamps 00:00 Welcome and introducing Christopher Brenk 01:00 Announcing the podcast's sponsorship with Saysky Copenhagen 02:13 Kristian's own training week update 08:26 Welcome to Christopher and a wifi mishap 10:08 How it felt to get selected for Puma Project 3 14:04 Running a 2:17 marathon while not seeing himself as a pro 19:12 A Division 3 college running background 19:59 Years spent in Sitka, Alaska before Wyoming 20:00 Moving to Laramie for altitude training and his girlfriend's masters program 52:15 Living and training in the highest city in the US 53:39 Adjusting workouts to account for the altitude 57:07 Whether the altitude benefits are finally paying off 1:16:46 Race nutrition strategy and carb intake for Berlin 1:19:02 Closing thoughts and good luck in Berlin Christopher on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/christopher_brenk/ Start your free Musicbed trial: https://fm.pxf.io/kristianwarwick Full episodes + the Boston 2025 documentary: https://www.youtube.com/@Warwickruns Follow my training journey on Instagram: @warwick.runs Music from Musicbed: MB01XPYH8ZYENVAMB0133EV2TCQFZY

    #219 Christopher Brenk Lives in the Highest City in America. Now a 2:17 marathoner

  5. Sep 21

    #218 What Happens Inside Your Body During Low Intensity Training? | With elite coach Brant Stachel

    The Marathon Podcast is now proudly sponsored by Saysky Copenhagen. Use code TMP15 for 15% off at saysky.com. Get 20% off a Strava annual subscription with code KRISTIAN Save on FlexBeam using code WARWICKRUNS or this link: https://rechargehealthas.sjv.io/55GAPb Kristian welcomes back coach Brant Stachel for his third appearance on the podcast, this time to answer a question sparked by his own wife: why does low intensity training actually work? Brant and Kristian dig into the physiology behind easy running, from mitochondrial density and capillary growth to the honest caveat that a lot of the exact science still isn't fully settled. They discuss why low intensity training has become such a hot topic in the sport, what elite programs seem to be finding through trial and error even without perfect research to back it up, and how to actually judge whether your easy runs are truly easy. The conversation closes with practical advice on using the talk test, ignoring your watch, and getting past the ego hit of running slow on Strava. Kristian then shares a full recap of his own training week, including a look ahead to Puma Project 3 athletes racing Berlin. In this episode: - Why Brant's wife inspired this episode's big question - The physiology behind low intensity training, explained simply - Mitochondrial density, capillary growth, and what the research actually shows - Why elite training groups keep coming back to low intensity work - What "easy" is actually supposed to feel like - Using the talk test instead of your watch - Getting past the ego hit of slow paces on Strava - Kristian's own training week recap - A preview of Puma Project 3 athletes racing the Berlin Marathon Timestamps 00:00 Welcome and the question that sparked this episode 02:10 Announcing the podcast's sponsorship with Saysky Copenhagen 04:51 Welcoming Brant Stachel back for his third appearance 08:10 The alphabet soup of training zones and paces 20:22 An honest look at what the research actually shows 25:03 The capillary system explained through a father's advice 39:36 Why zone two became such a hyped up trend 46:55 Ditching heart rate and pace altogether for a season 51:30 What easy is actually supposed to feel like 52:07 Using the talk test to judge your effort 55:21 Getting past the ego hit of slow Strava times 56:11 Wrapping up and planning a future episode on hard training 57:39 Kristian's own training week recap begins 1:02:33 A breakdown of his easy runs and average heart rate 1:08:19 Looking ahead to Puma Project 3 athletes racing Berlin 1:13:01 Closing thoughts and thank you for listening Brant on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/brant_stachel/ Brant on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4Nd1yg5n94puosXxjeL5FQ Start your free Musicbed trial: https://fm.pxf.io/kristianwarwick Full episodes + the Boston 2025 documentary: https://www.youtube.com/@Warwickruns Follow my training journey on Instagram: @warwick.runs Music from Musicbed: MB01XPYH8ZYENVAMB0133EV2TCQFZY

    #218 What Happens Inside Your Body During Low Intensity Training? | With elite coach Brant Stachel

  6. Sep 20

    #217 World Champs Half Marathon Copenhagen Recap

    The Marathon Podcast is now proudly sponsored by Saysky Copenhagen. Use code TMP15 for 15% off at saysky.com. Get 20% off a Strava annual subscription with code KRISTIAN Save on FlexBeam using code WARWICKRUNS or this link: https://rechargehealthas.sjv.io/55GAPb Kristian brings you a bonus recap episode straight after the Copenhagen Half Marathon World Championships, breaking down a historic day of racing on the fast, flat streets of Denmark. Kristian walks through the women's race, where Agnes Ngetich ran away from the field to set a new world record, and Emma Gracie Hurley's breakout performance for the Americans in fifth place. He also touches on an American qualifying mix up that nearly kept some of the country's best runners out of the race entirely. He then breaks down the incredible men's race, where Andreas Almgren became the first non African winner of the World Championship half marathon in decades, out-kicking his Kenyan rivals in a European record time of 58:06. The episode closes with a roundup of other notable results, including several Nomeo teammates and friends of the podcast, and a look ahead to Monday's episode on low intensity training. In this episode: - Announcing the podcast's sponsorship with Saysky Copenhagen - Race day conditions on Copenhagen's fast, flat course - How the elite field format worked for this world championship race - The women's race: Agnes Ngetich's dominant, world record win - Emma Gracie Hurley and Jess McLean's breakout performances for Team USA - An American qualifying mix up and how it was resolved - The men's race: a historic win for Andreas Almgren - Breaking down Almgren's European record and his technique - A roundup of other notable results and friends of the podcast - What's coming up: an episode on low intensity training Timestamps 00:00 Announcing the podcast's sponsorship with Saysky Copenhagen 00:23 Welcome to this bonus recap episode 02:02 Race format and start times explained 03:42 The men's Elite B field explained 04:19 How the format differed for this world championship race 04:49 The women's race starts out fast 05:09 Comparing the pace to yesterday's Norwegian 5k record 05:36 Jess McLean and Emma Gracie Hurley's breakout runs 09:34 Women's results: Ngetich's world record win 10:38 An American qualifying mix up and how it was resolved 11:21 Other notable European finishers 17:18 A quick note on the men's B field strategy 19:21 The men's race: history on the line 20:25 A dramatic final sprint between Almgren and his rivals 22:13 Men's results: Almgren's European record win 22:36 Almgren's post race interview and his first marathon in New York 26:16 A roundup of other notable results 27:42 More friends of the podcast in the results 28:13 Reflecting on the atmosphere and considering racing Copenhagen 29:05 Another shoutout to Saysky Copenhagen 30:04 What's coming up: low intensity training with Brandon 30:35 Closing thoughts and have a good weekend Cover photo by Copenhagen Half. Start your free Musicbed trial: https://fm.pxf.io/kristianwarwick Full episodes + the Boston 2025 documentary: https://www.youtube.com/@Warwickruns Follow my training journey on Instagram: @warwick.runs Music from Musicbed: MB01XPYH8ZYENVAMB0133EV2TCQFZY

    #217 World Champs Half Marathon Copenhagen Recap

  7. Sep 18

    #216 Laura Peill: A Physio's Guide to Never Getting Injured Again

    The Marathon Podcast is now proudly sponsored by SaySky Copenhagen. Use code TMP15 for 15% off at saysky.com. Get 20% off a Strava annual subscription with code KRISTIAN Save on FlexBeam using code WARWICKRUNS or this link: https://rechargehealthas.sjv.io/55GAPb Kristian sits down with Laura Peill, a Canadian physiotherapist based in Australia and a 2:50 marathoner herself, for a genuinely useful, evidence based deep dive into injury prevention, strength training, and how to actually listen to your body. Laura shares her own two decade running journey, from a childhood step challenge to chasing new marathon PBs today, and brings her professional expertise into the conversation to explain exactly how to approach strength training to prevent injury, not just after the fact. She breaks down what tendinopathy actually is, why complete rest is rarely the right first move, and the simple daily and 24 hour checks that can tell you whether you're doing too much or just enough. The conversation covers when a niggle needs a physio and when it's safe to keep running through it, along with a practical hierarchy for building back up after time off. In this episode: - Laura's two decade running journey and current 2:50 marathon PB - Splitting her time between physiotherapy, Pilates, and running - How to approach strength training to prevent injury - Two ways to think about strength: running specific vs. movement patterns - What tendinopathy actually is and how tendons respond to load - Why complete rest is rarely the right first response to pain - The daily and 24 hour checks that tell you if you're doing too much - When you actually need to see a physio vs. self manage - A safe hierarchy for building back up after an injury - Building toward the Melbourne Marathon and future goals Timestamps 00:00 Welcome and introducing Laura Peill 02:19 Announcing the podcast's sponsorship with SaySky Copenhagen 05:19 Kristian's own training update 23:31 Welcome to Laura and previewing the conversation 26:52 Laura's background: physiotherapy, Pilates, and running 31:23 Laura's two decade running journey 45:19 Balancing running goals with a physiotherapist's perspective 59:19 Learning the hard way after an early IT band issue 1:00:52 How to approach strength training to prevent injury 1:07:35 Strength training doesn't prevent injury on its own 1:22:27 What tendinopathy actually is, explained simply 1:33:16 How tendons respond to load over time 1:38:16 When to see a physio vs. keep running through it 1:38:51 A safe hierarchy for building back up after an injury 1:39:29 The daily and 24 hour checks that tell you if it's too much 2:14:46 Laura's long term approach: chasing potential on the roads 2:16:04 Closing thoughts and good luck in Melbourne More from Laura Peill: https://laurapeill.com Start your free Musicbed trial: https://fm.pxf.io/kristianwarwick Full episodes + the Boston 2025 documentary: https://www.youtube.com/@Warwickruns Follow my training journey on Instagram: @warwick.runs Music from Musicbed: MB01XPYH8ZYENVAMB0133EV2TCQFZY

    #216 Laura Peill: A Physio's Guide to Never Getting Injured Again

  8. Sep 16

    #215 Adding Cycling Turned Katharina Engelhardt Into a 2:46 Marathoner

    The Marathon Podcast is now proudly sponsored by SaySky Copenhagen. Use code TMP15 for 15% off at saysky.com. Get 20% off a Strava annual subscription with code KRISTIAN Save on FlexBeam using code WARWICKRUNS or this link: https://rechargehealthas.sjv.io/55GAPb Kristian sits down with Katharina Engelhardt, a Puma Project 3 athlete recommended straight from Puma, whose marathon journey went from a 3:38 debut and years stuck unable to break 40 minutes in the 10k, to a 2:46 personal best today. Katharina shares how she calculated her way toward every marathon goal using her 10k times, and the years long frustration of chasing a sub 40 10k that never quite came, only to eventually run a marathon far faster than her 10k pace would ever have predicted. She breaks down the training shift that changed everything: adding serious volumes of zone two and three cycling alongside her running, something she still credits as the biggest driver of her recent improvement. The conversation also touches on being part of Puma Project 3, running the New York Marathon warming up alongside the elites, and her approach to staying calm and process focused heading into her next marathon in Berlin. In this episode: - Being recommended for Puma Project 3 directly by Puma - Years spent chasing a sub 40 10k that never quite came - Calculating every marathon goal using her 10k times - Running a marathon far faster than her 10k pace ever predicted - Discovering iron supplementation and the energy shift that followed - Adding serious volumes of cycling alongside her running - Why she believes cycling has been the biggest driver of her progress - Warming up alongside the elites at the New York Marathon - Letting go of the 10k and trusting her marathon fitness instead - Heading into Berlin chasing a new personal best Timestamps 00:00 Welcome to another Puma Project 3 episode 02:05 Announcing the podcast's sponsorship with SaySky Copenhagen 02:31 Kristian's own training update 04:18 Welcome to Katharina Engelhardt 04:41 Being recommended for Puma Project 3 directly by Puma 20:15 Struggling for four years to break sub 40 in the 10k 22:00 Chasing a sub three hour marathon and doing the math 24:20 The years long frustration of chasing sub 40 25:35 What her weekly training looked like at the time 47:02 Discovering iron supplementation and a sudden burst of energy 47:37 Adding six thousand kilometers of cycling in a single year 48:33 Keeping cycling as a core part of her training since 50:22 Why cycling might be underrated for non elite runners 57:40 A typical week blending running and cycling 1:07:15 Letting go of the 10k and trusting her marathon fitness 1:09:03 Closing thoughts and good luck in Berlin Katharina on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ketheknete?stkn=Z2VnMHVkOGJlZzkz Start your free Musicbed trial: https://fm.pxf.io/kristianwarwick Full episodes + the Boston 2025 documentary: https://www.youtube.com/@Warwickruns Follow my training journey on Instagram: @warwick.runs Music from Musicbed: MB01XPYH8ZYENVAMB0133EV2TCQFZY

    #215 Adding Cycling Turned Katharina Engelhardt Into a 2:46 Marathoner
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Welcome to The Marathon Podcast! 15% off Saysky with code TMP15 The podcast that sponsors non-sponsored athletes. This is a podcast for established runners, future runners, and people interested in running. On this podcast, we will focus on everything running. Science, nutrition, training, gear, and much more. Prepare for a new running companion, elite and non-elite guests, and inspiring stories. Let's run and talk together!

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  • Creator
    Kristian Warwick/Wiild Studio
  • Years Active
    2025 - 2026
  • Episodes
    222
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © Kristian Warwick/Wiild Studio
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    The Marathon Podcast

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