Courtroom Autopsy

David Lish & Ryan McPhie

Welcome to the official podcast of Grand Canyon Law Group—Arizona’s premier dedicated criminal defense firm. Hosted by founding attorneys David Lish and Ryan McPhie, this show goes beyond the courtroom. Each episode explores real criminal cases, legal outcomes, and the stories behind the charges—from DUI to domestic violence, assault to white collar crimes. As former prosecutors turned fierce defense attorneys, David and Ryan bring unmatched insight, candid conversation, and a touch of grit. But it's not all law and order—we’ll also share hidden gems across Arizona, local legends, interviews with community voices, and the secret spots we love when we're off the clock. Whether you're navigating the justice system, curious about the truth behind high-stakes cases, or just want to hear two Arizona attorneys shoot straight—this podcast has you covered.

  1. 23h ago

    The Secret Recording That Solved a 12-Year-Old Car Bomb Murder

    Gary Triano finished a round of golf at La Paloma, got in his car, and it blew up. It was his birthday. The bomb was remotely detonated, meaning someone was watching. What looked like a mob hit turned into something far more personal. His ex-wife Pamela Phillips was a state away in Colorado with what seemed like a perfect alibi, but a separate fraud investigation connected her to a co-conspirator named Ron Young, and what investigators found in his van blew the case wide open. David Lish and Ryan McPhie break down how microcassette recordings, hotel receipts, and a $2 million life insurance policy built a purely circumstantial case that held up through two separate trials. You'll hear how competency proceedings nearly derailed everything, why the defense pointed the finger at mob associates and angry investors, how Austria's extradition conditions took the death penalty off the table, and what the recorded phone calls actually prove. Topics discussed: 00:00 - Introduction 01:53 - Who was Gary Triano? 02:43 - The debts, the enemies, and the mob connections 04:48 - The car bomb murder at La Paloma 06:04 - The device: a remotely detonated pipe bomb 07:07 - Too many suspects, no clear lead 08:07 - A fraud case in Colorado cracks everything open 10:32 - What they found in Ronald Young's van 11:37 - The $2 million life insurance policy 13:12 - Arrests: America's Most Wanted and a chase to Austria 15:24 - Extradition conditions and the death penalty exception 16:40 - Rule 11: competency to stand trial 22:36 - Third party culpability defense and its limits 27:44 - Circumstantial vs. direct evidence and burden of proof 34:42 - The recorded phone calls that sealed the case Connect with us: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/grand-canyon-law-group/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/grandcanyonlawgroup/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/grandcanyonlawgroup/ X: https://x.com/grandcanyonlaw/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@grand.canyon.law Website: https://www.grandcanyon.law/ This episode was produced by Podcast Boutique: https://www.podcastboutique.com

    42 min
  2. May 26

    The Love Triangle That Ended in Murder by Hammer

    A husband is beaten with a hammer. His wife says an intruder did it. Then the story changes again… and again. When police arrived at the home of Dale Harrell and Marissa Devault, they found Dale barely alive and Marissa covered in blood. What followed was one of Arizona’s most bizarre murder cases — a trial filled with conflicting stories, allegations of abuse, a suspicious attack on the defendant, a roommate with severe memory problems, and a secret relationship prosecutors claimed revealed the true motive. In this episode, we break down the murder trial that drew constant comparisons to the Jodi Arias case. From the failed intruder defense to the prosecution’s “love triangle turned insurance scheme” theory, we analyze the evidence, trial strategy, witness credibility, and the legal issues that made this case unforgettable. Topics discussed: 00:00 - Introduction 02:06 - The 911 call and the bloody crime scene 03:20 - Marissa’s self-defense and abuse claims 04:43 - The mysterious attack on Marissa after her release 07:36 - The multiple stories Marissa gave investigators 10:02 - The secret sugar daddy relationship revealed 13:01 - Media coverage and comparisons to Jodi Arias 17:15 - Problems with the self-defense argument 30:21 - The controversial testimony deal with Alan Flores 47:08 - Marissa’s interrogation and reenactment of the hammer attack Connect with us: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/grand-canyon-law-group/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/grandcanyonlawgroup/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/grandcanyonlawgroup/ X: https://x.com/grandcanyonlaw/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@grand.canyon.law Website: https://www.grandcanyon.law/ This episode was produced by Podcast Boutique: https://www.podcastboutique.com

    51 min
5
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Welcome to the official podcast of Grand Canyon Law Group—Arizona’s premier dedicated criminal defense firm. Hosted by founding attorneys David Lish and Ryan McPhie, this show goes beyond the courtroom. Each episode explores real criminal cases, legal outcomes, and the stories behind the charges—from DUI to domestic violence, assault to white collar crimes. As former prosecutors turned fierce defense attorneys, David and Ryan bring unmatched insight, candid conversation, and a touch of grit. But it's not all law and order—we’ll also share hidden gems across Arizona, local legends, interviews with community voices, and the secret spots we love when we're off the clock. Whether you're navigating the justice system, curious about the truth behind high-stakes cases, or just want to hear two Arizona attorneys shoot straight—this podcast has you covered.

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