Thank you so much for sharing your time with us today. And thank you dear Dragana for sharing your whimsy, your compassion and your joy juice with us. We talked about hysterectomies – how we both in our early 50’s when we had them. Apparently we in good company – according to the government of Canada, the most common reasons for hysterectomies among Canadian women in their 50s include heavy periods, pelvic pain, fibroids, endometriosis, and uterine prolapse. These conditions often lead to significant discomfort and may require surgical intervention when other treatments have failed. Dragana talked about waiting 10 year for this intervention. She spoke about fibroids (I believe it was but I mistakenly referred to them as polyps. I knew that was not the right word when I said it but it was the word that came to my mind). Like many women, she was told by both male and female gynecologists, that things would go away with periods. But that was not what Dragana wanted. She was tired of waiting. She wanted everything out. Like so many women, she had very difficult and painful periods. Although her body and mind were both speaking to her, she was not listening to them. She learned and so did I that our intuition is actually almost more exacting than medical sciences. (Edit - we appreciate our healthcare system and the healthcare professionals we have dealt with over the years.) Ultimately this bubble inside her kept growing until it was the size of a melon and intertwined with other stomach organs. She was experiencing difficult and painful cramps and ended up in emergency. It was very dire. Finally she was able to convince her doctor that she would like to have a hysterectomy. The mass was pressing against her intestine, stomach and bladder and she had to convince her doctor? That is not right and just serves to reinforce how important it is for women to advocate for their own reproductive healthcare. As we chatted, I recognized how individual both menopause and surgical experiences are for women. While thankfully Dragana’s recovery was smooth and she felt better, it was not the same for me. At least at the beginning. It also highlights the connect between our physical and mental and emotional health. Dragana also has a very positive attitude towards menopause and sees it as being a member of the wise woman club. So even though we deal with cognitive decline, hot flashes and more emotions (to say the least), Dragana also deals with anxiety and depression and diabetes type 2– as she describes it, the trifecta. She spoke of the value in establishing a baseline, of her body’s optimal state. And of course, we talked about the crazy menopausal symptoms, like having itchy ears. And the value of not drinking alcohol. Dragana also inspired me with her positive attitude to aging – not caring so much what others think, and truly being her authentic self (which is amazing by the way). She celebrates her quirkiness and choosing to take a job that she really loves, not just one that pays well but causes more stress. Maintaining a positive outlook is most definitely one of Dragana’s super powers, as is bringing her sunshiney wacky ridiculously wonderful self to everything she does. Most importantly we agree that there is a lot of magic in menopause. It comes in the form of Mother Nature, of the colourful leaves in the trees during the fall, in friendships, in learning how to meditate and visualize. Focus more on the magic and less on the mayhem. What if we took control of the narrative and described menopause as empowering? What if we started making decisions based on what we want – not our partners, our families or society? Could we do that? Bottom line – women in menopause are rock stars. We have been through things and now, we don’t have to worry about our periods and horrible cramps and all that other stuff. Now, we are getting ready for the best parts of our lives – we just need to enjoy some of that joy juice Dragana is talking about! And better yet, what if we shared it with other incredible women during their menopausal journey? So thank you so much Dragana – my crush continues!! ****FYI - I said December 17th - that was wrong - I should have said October 17th. My bad - clearly my brain was racing ahead a couple of months! :( Links: Dragana Mrdjenovic | LinkedIn Canadian Menopause Society - Advancing Mature Women's Health Hysterectomy Support Forum | Hysterectomy Support Group 202532-LeBlanc-ActionCanada-AdvocacyToolkit-EN-v10.pdf Reproductive Justice