Not Another PD

Jazmin Pursell Consulting

Tired of professional development that talks at you instead of about the realities of your work? Not Another PD is a podcast for helping professionals who are done with overgiving, blurred boundaries, and wellbeing conversations that don’t match the systems they’re working in. Hosted by Jazmin Pursell, social worker, supervisor, and organisational consultant. The podcast explores boundaries, burnout, capacity, and leadership, and refuses the idea that good practice requires self-sacrifice. www.jazminpursell.com.au

  1. 1d ago

    Episode 53: Sound, stress and staying connected as a leader with Jessica Mak

    Episode 53: Sound, stress and staying connected as a leader with Jessica Mak. Have you ever heard of sound therapy? Well, if you haven’t, you’re about to. In Episode 53 of Not Another PD, I’m joined by Jessica Mak, founder of Blüte Sound Therapy & Wellbeing. Jessica has worked across early childhood education, community services and family violence practice. Her experience in emotionally demanding roles also led her to explore ways of supporting her own regulation, eventually leading her to sound therapy. In this episode, we explore sound therapy, workplace wellbeing, leadership and practical ways helping professionals can support regulation during busy workdays. Jessica’s career across early childhood education, community services and family violence practice Vicarious trauma and the impact of emotionally demanding work What sound therapy is and what happens during a session Sound and vibration as tools to support regulation Workplace wellbeing and the difference between talking about it and creating the conditions for it Leadership role-modelling and giving staff genuine permission to pause Staying connected to your team rather than relying only on formal supervision Playfulness and humanity in professional spaces Recognising early signs of stress in your body Boundaries between work and personal life Practical regulation strategies for busy workdays, including music, breathing and sensory tools About Jessica Mak: Jessica Mak is the founder and practitioner behind Blüte Sound Therapy & Wellbeing, a holistic wellbeing practice based in Frankston South, Victoria, offering sessions for individuals and workplaces. Jessica has extensive experience in early childhood education across Australia, Ireland and Germany, as well as in community services and family violence practice. Her professional background has shaped her approach to care, connection, emotional regulation and trauma-informed practice. Connect with Jessica: Blüte Sound Therapy & Wellbeing LinkedIn Instagram Email: hello@bluetesoundtherapy.com Work with Jazmin: Individual supervision and professional consultation Would you like a dedicated space to reflect on your practice, leadership, boundaries and the challenges that come with supporting other people? Group supervision for leaders and helping professionals Join a small group of helping professionals for facilitated reflection, connection and professional development. Boundaries as Practitioners training Self-paced professional development for helping professionals wanting to strengthen their boundaries in practice. AASW CPD eligible and ACA OPD approved. Free Boundaries Pyramid Explore where your boundaries currently sit across Survive, Sustain and Thrive. Before Work Boundaries A practical resource to help you reflect on the boundaries you have in place before your workday even begins. Socialise with Jazmin: Instagram LinkedIn If this conversation made you think of someone you work with, share this episode with a colleague. And if you’re enjoying Not Another PD, I’d really appreciate it if you could leave a rating or review wherever you listen. It helps more helping professionals and leaders find the podcast. Thank you so much for listening to Not Another PD. See you next time. Jazmin

  2. Sep 24

    Episode 52: Are frontline workers prepared for crisis? With Michelle Inwood

    Episode 52: Are Frontline Workers Prepared for Crisis? With Michelle Inwood If you work in a helping profession, there’s a good chance that at some point you’re going to find yourself supporting someone in crisis. But how well are we actually preparing people for those moments? In this episode, I’m joined by Michelle Inwood, Founder and Lead Trainer at INWOOD Training & Design. Michelle has spent seventeen years working across mental health and community services. We talk about what can help when someone is in crisis, what can unintentionally make things worse, and whether we sometimes expect frontline workers to manage situations they haven’t been adequately trained or supported for. Michelle also shares her STAND™ Crisis Response framework, a five-step approach designed to give people practical tools they can use when supporting clients, colleagues and themselves. In this episode, we chat about: • Whether frontline workers are adequately prepared for crisis situations• Why rushing in to “fix” a crisis can sometimes make things worse• Creating safety and responding consistently across teams• Debriefing and supporting workers after difficult incidents• The role of supervision and reflective practice• What leaders and organisations can do to better support frontline staff• Why leaders need their own support too• Michelle’s five-step STAND™ Crisis Response framework Connect with Michelle: INWOOD Training & Design LinkedIn Instagram Email: michelle@inwoodtraining.com.au Work with Jazmin: Looking for professional supervision, reflective practice, training or consultation? Find out more about working with me Explore upcoming group supervision Supporting everyone else can make it easy to overlook your own boundaries. Free resource: The Boundaries Pyramid My free Boundaries Pyramid is a reflective tool for helping professionals and leaders to consider their boundaries across three levels: Survive, Sustain and Thrive. Download it here Socialise with Jazmin: LinkedIn Instagram Join my email community Thank you so much for listening to Not Another PD. See you next time. Jazmin

  3. Sep 17

    Episode 51: Are young staff really not work ready? With Jono van der Ploeg

    Episode 51: Are young staff really not work ready? With Jono van der Ploeg. We hear a lot about young people entering the workforce. They’re not resilient enough. They need too much reassurance. They don’t show enough initiative. They’re not loyal. They’re just not “work ready.” But how much of that is actually about young people, and how much responsibility sits with the workplaces employing them? In Episode 51 of Not Another PD, I’m joined by Jono van der Ploeg, a youth worker and facilitator with more than 20 years of experience working alongside young people across youth work, community development, mentoring and local government. Through Confidence in Mentoring, Jono works with organisations to improve how they employ, onboard, mentor and develop young staff. He also hosts the Not Work Ready podcast, where he challenges some of the common assumptions made about young people entering the workforce. Jono shares his own experience of starting out as a young youth worker in a workplace where he received little support and was eventually told he wasn’t cut out for youth work. We talk about the impact leaders can have on the confidence of early career professionals, particularly when someone is still developing their professional judgement and finding their place in the workforce. We also explore workplace belonging and psychological safety, and why creating a team where people feel able to ask questions, receive feedback, contribute ideas and admit when they don’t know something matters for young and early career staff. In this episode, we chat about: Common stereotypes about young employees, including that they lack resilience, loyalty, initiative or a willingness to workWhy “not work ready” might sometimes describe the workplace rather than the young personPsychological safety and workplace belonging, particularly for young and early career professionals entering a new teamHow leaders can help people feel safe to ask questions, learn, contribute and develop confidence at workThe unwritten workplace rules that experienced professionals can easily take for grantedWhy completing a qualification doesn’t mean someone automatically knows how to work within a particular organisation or professionThe importance of onboarding, mentoring and clear expectations for new and early career employeesGiving constructive feedback without making the person feel like they are a bad employeeThe difference between loyalty to an organisation and belonging within a teamHow leaders can make space for quieter or less experienced staff rather than allowing the loudest or most experienced voices to dominateThe role of leaders in creating team culture and modelling the behaviour they want to see. One of the things I really enjoyed about this conversation was challenging the assumption that because someone has finished their degree or qualification, they should automatically know what to do when they arrive in a professional workplace. Qualifications matter, but so do good onboarding, workplace mentoring, supervision, psychological safety, clear expectations and constructive feedback. We all had a first job. We all had a first professional role. Somewhere along the way, someone had to teach us the things that now seem obvious. Connect with Jono: Confidence in Mentoring website LinkedIn Emailjonathon@confidenceinmentoring.com.au Not Work Ready Blog on Substack Not Work Ready podcast Work with Jazmin: I provide individual and group supervision, reflective practice, training and consultancy for helping professionals, leaders and organisations. Website Group Supervision (Practitioners / Leaders groups) Boundaries as Practitioners training (AUD$59, online self-paced) Leadership Focus Groups EOI - Share your leadership experience to inform the topics of our next training! Socialise with Jazmin: LinkedIn Instagram Join my email community Thank you so much for listening to Not Another PD.  See you next time. Jazmin

  4. Sep 10

    Episode 50: Don’t text me at 9 PM: Burnout, boundaries and the conversations leaders need to have with Matthew Jackson

    Episode 50: Don’t Text Me at 9 PM: Burnout, Boundaries and the Conversations Leaders Need to Have with Matthew Jackson Episode 50 woo hoo! 🎉 For this milestone episode of Not Another PD, I’m joined by senior psychologist, Board-approved supervisor and self-described “personality hire” Matthew Jackson. And yes, we talk about why you probably shouldn’t text your leader at 9 PM about something that could have been an email the next morning. But this conversation goes much further than after-hours messages. Matt has worked across private practice, hospitals, corporate teams and university settings, as well as leading teams himself. Outside of psychology, Matt also has another professional identity as drag performer Matilda Mercury Queen. Together, we get into the very human side of leadership: burnout, boundaries, difficult conversations, resentment, self-awareness, professional support and what happens when either leaders or their staff start to disconnect from the work. We also talk about why burnout isn’t simply an individual resilience problem, why leaders need somewhere safe to be supported themselves, and what leaders can do when they realise something isn’t quite right within themselves or their team. In this episode, we discuss: Warning signs that leaders themselves may be strugglingAfter-hours communication and setting clear boundaries with your teamHow to have difficult conversations without damaging professional relationshipsWhy leaders need to ask, “What’s my part in this?”Warning signs that staff may be struggling, disengaged or burning outBurnout as an individual, leadership and organisational responsibilityWhy blaming individual workers for not being “resilient enough” misses the bigger pictureHow leaders without a clinical background can better understand the realities of frontline practiceStaying curious and asking your team questions rather than making assumptionsWhy leaders acknowledging their own mistakes can help create safer teamsProfessional supervision, peer support and other places leaders can access support without relying on their staffMatt’s simple two-minute self-awareness check-inConnection to your role, your team and your organisation, and what it might mean when one of those connections starts to disappear. Towards the end of the episode, Matt gives us another great reflection: think about how connected you currently feel to your role, your team and your organisation. If the answer is “no” to one of them, that doesn’t necessarily mean everything is bad. It’s a clue. As Matt puts it, pick up the magnifying glass, be Agatha Christie and investigate. What has changed? What are you missing? What is your part in it? And what might need to change? Because, as Matt also asks, why does business have to be so serious? Connect with Matt: Email: mjpsychology@outlook.com Instagram LinkedIn Work with Jazmin: I support leaders, practitioners and organisations across the helping professions through professional supervision, leadership development, training and consultation. Explore my services Group Supervision Boundaries as Practitioners Training Free resources Are you a leader in the helping professions? I’m currently running online focus groups with Australian-based leaders to help shape new leadership training around reflective practice, professional boundaries, wellbeing and psychosocial safety. I’d love to hear from leaders across different helping professions, roles and sectors. Express your interest here Socialise with Jazmin: Instagram LinkedIn Facebook Website Join my email community Thanks so much for listening to Episode 50 of Not Another PD!  And a huge thank you to Matt for such a fun, honest and very Matt conversation. If this episode got you thinking about your own boundaries, leadership or how connected you’re feeling to your work, I’d love to hear what stood out for you. And remember: if it can wait until 9 AM, maybe don’t text your leader at 9 PM.

  5. Sep 3

    Episode 49: When the caring doesn’t stop at the end of the workday with Renee Firth

    Episode 49: When the Caring Doesn’t Stop at the End of the Workday with Renee Firth. As helping professionals and leaders, many of us spend our working lives supporting other people. But what happens when you finish work and the caring doesn’t stop there? In this episode of Not Another PD, I’m joined by Renee Firth, mental wellbeing coach, founder of ASD Mum Club and mum to a non-speaking autistic child with ADHD. Renee and I talk about the experience of being both a helping professional and a carer, and the additional load that can come with balancing caring responsibilities at work and at home. Drawing on her previous work in residential rehabilitation, Renee shares why she was intentional about not asking people to unnecessarily retell traumatic experiences, and how that work shaped the way she supports people today. We also talk about professional boundaries when you share lived experience with the people you support, moving beyond spaces that only allow us to vent, and why wellbeing needs to be something we consider throughout our everyday lives rather than waiting until we are already depleted. In this episode, we talk about: Working in a helping profession while also having caring responsibilities outside of workWhat Renee learned from supporting people experiencing crisis in residential rehabilitationWhy we don’t always need people to retell their trauma to another professionalHow lived experience can inform the way we support othersMaintaining professional boundaries when you share experiences with the people you supportWhy support spaces need to offer more than an opportunity to ventLooking after your wellbeing before you reach the point of burnoutMoving beyond occasional massages, days off and other one-off approaches to wellbeingFinding small opportunities to reset throughout the working dayWhy helping professionals and leaders need their own support tooBuilding a circle of support around yourselfWhat it means to be the leader of your own life. One of the things that really stood out to me from our conversation was Renee’s reminder that we are not meant to be doing this life alone. When you spend so much of your professional and personal life caring for other people, who is in your circle supporting you? About Renee: Renee Firth is a mental wellbeing coach for mums raising autistic children and the founder of ASD Mum Club. After working in crisis care within a residential rehabilitation service, Renee experienced burnout herself while balancing work and caring for her non-speaking autistic child with ADHD. Her own experience of rebuilding her wellbeing led her to develop the CALM Life Framework, which focuses on practical ways to support wellbeing within the life you already have. Through ASD Mum Club, Renee has created a private community for mums raising autistic children to access support, connection and practical resources. Connect with Renee: Website Instagram YouTube Work with Jazmin: Leadership Focus Groups:Are you an Australian-based leader in the helping professions? I’m currently running online focus groups to help shape new leadership training. Express your interest here Services Group Supervision (Starting October 2026) Boundaries as Practitioners Training Free Resources Join Jazmin’s Email Community Socialise with Jazmin: Instagram LinkedIn Facebook Website Thank you so much for listening to Not Another PD. I look forward to welcoming you next week. Jazmin.

  6. Sep 1

    Episode 48: Leading people when the work comes with risk with Josh Corcoran

    Episode 48: Leading people when the work comes with risk with Josh Corcoran. What does it actually look like to lead and support people when the work itself comes with risk? I’m joined by Josh Corcoran, Head of Strategic Partnerships and Business Growth at Calacare in Ballarat, Victoria, to talk about leadership in high pressure environments, emotional intelligence, psychological safety, professional boundaries and men’s mental health. We talk about the importance of knowing your people, recognising when someone’s behaviour or performance has changed, creating opportunities for staff to reflect and debrief, and making time to check in when someone may be struggling. We discuss the importance of leaders having their own support networks and people they can turn to when navigating difficult conversations and leadership challenges. We also explore professional boundaries, including the sometimes slippery slope between being friendly and becoming a friend, particularly for helping professionals working closely with people in their homes and everyday lives. Finally, Josh speaks openly about his own experiences with mental health, why men’s mental health advocacy is so important to him, his involvement with Movember, and what leaders can do to better recognise and respond when someone in their team may be struggling. About Josh Corcoran Josh Corcoran is a people centred leader with experience spanning construction, correctional services and disability support. After more than a decade with the Department of Justice and Community Safety, including six years leading custodial teams, Josh now works as Head of Strategic Partnerships and Business Growth at Calacare in Ballarat, Victoria. He is passionate about psychological safety, staff wellbeing, leadership development and men’s mental health. In this episode, we discuss: Leadership in corrections and other high pressure environmentsSupporting staff when there are risks of physical and psychological harmPsychological safety and recognising when staff may be strugglingEmotional intelligence, communication and vulnerability in leadershipHaving difficult conversations and balancing support with accountabilityWhy leaders need their own support, mentors and professional networksProfessional boundaries for helping professionals and the role of leaders in supporting themMen’s mental health, help seeking and recognising signs that someone may not be copingLeadership and supporting staff wellbeing across demanding frontline roles. Connect with Josh: LinkedIn Email: josh@calacare.com.au Find out more about Calacare: ⁠Calacare's website⁠ Calacare on Instagram Support Movember: Josh is a passionate supporter of Movember and shares some of his own experience advocating for men’s mental health in this episode. You can learn more about Movember’s work, get involved in fundraising or make a donation here Leadership Focus Groups: At Jazmin Pursell Consulting we are currently taking EOIs from leaders to help inform training around areas including reflective practice, professional boundaries, leader wellbeing and psychosocial safety. If you’re currently in a leadership role within the helping professions and would like to contribute, I would love to hear from you. Leadership Focus Groups EOI Work with Jazmin: Group supervision for practitioners and leaders (new groups beginning in October 2026) Boundaries as Practitioners online training Free Resources Website Socialise with Jazmin: Instagram Facebook: Jazmin Pursell Consulting LinkedIn Thank you again to Josh for such an open and thoughtful conversation, and particularly for sharing so generously from both his professional and personal experiences. If you have enjoyed this episode, please share it with a friend of colleague! See you next week, Jazmin.

  7. Aug 21

    Episode 47: You Don't Have to Have It All Together to Help Other People

    Episode 47: You Don't Have to Have It All Together to Help Other People There can be an unspoken expectation in the helping professions that because we support other people through difficult situations, we should somehow have our own lives completely figured out. But helping professionals and leaders are human too. We have relationships, families, parenting challenges, health issues, grief and loss, conflict, our own mental health journeys and our own histories. Some experiences may be well behind us, while others may be things we're navigating right now. In this solo episode of Not Another PD, I unpack why lived and living experience doesn't automatically make us less capable, ethical or effective professionals. In fact, our experiences can sometimes strengthen our empathy, insight and understanding of the people and systems we work with. I also share a personal story from my early twenties, long before I became a social worker, about turning up to work after a really difficult situation in my personal life. Looking back now, I can see how much I lacked the self-awareness to ask myself a very important question: Am I actually okay to do my job today? In this episode, I talk about: The myth that helping professionals and leaders should have everything figured out.How our personal lives can sometimes affect our professional capacity.Lived and living experience, and the value these experiences can bring to our work.Why shared experience with a client group doesn't automatically mean we should, or shouldn't, work in that field.Recognising our triggers, limitations and potential for over-identification.Why it's okay to acknowledge that a particular field of practice isn't right for you.The role of reflective supervision, self-reflection, boundaries and professional support.The Involvement Continuum, including under-involvement, the ideal range of involvement and over-involvement.How practitioners and leaders can use the Involvement Continuum to reflect on their relationships with clients and teams.One of the biggest messages I want you to take away from this episode is that being incredibly good at supporting other people doesn't mean you won't sometimes need support yourself. Resource mentioned: Involvement Continuum, Foundation House:Access the Involvement Continuum Work with me: I provide professional supervision, group supervision, professional consultation, training and support for helping professionals, leaders and organisations. Group supervision for practitioners and leaders Boundaries as Practitioners online training (AU$59) Free resources for helping professionals and leaders Professional supervision, consultation, training and other services Are you a leader in the helping professions? I'm currently developing new leadership training specifically for leaders working across the helping professions, and I want leaders themselves involved in shaping it. I'm inviting leaders to take part in upcoming online Leadership Focus Groups to share their perspectives on what leaders actually need when it comes to leadership development, reflective practice, boundaries, wellbeing and psychologically safer workplaces. If you're a leader in the helping professions and would like to contribute, I'd love to hear from you. Express your interest in the Leadership Focus Groups Socialise with me: I'd love to keep the conversation going outside the podcast too. Instagram LinkedIn And stay tuned, because this is my last solo episode for a little while. I have some fantastic guest conversations coming up on Not Another PD, and I can't wait to share them with you. I appreciate you being here. Jazmin.

  8. Aug 14

    Episode 46: When Workplace Wellbeing Becomes Tokenistic

    Episode 46: When Workplace Wellbeing Becomes Tokenistic A wellbeing workshop, an R U OK? Day activity or a once-a-year team wellbeing initiative can be valuable. But what happens when staff return to their everyday work environment? In this solo episode, Jazmin explores the difference between offering workplace wellbeing initiatives and actually creating a workplace culture that supports wellbeing. Drawing on the social work concept of person in environment, Jazmin discusses why helping professionals and leaders can't be separated from the environments they work within. While emotionally demanding client work can absolutely impact our wellbeing, so can excessive workloads, workplace culture, leadership, psychological safety, access to supervision, expectations around breaks and boundaries, and whether people genuinely feel safe to be themselves at work. Jazmin also explores the value of ongoing reflective practice and quality supervision as part of a broader supportive workplace environment, including why leaders themselves need opportunities for supervision, reflection and support. In this episode: When workplace wellbeing initiatives can start to become tokenisticApplying a person-in-environment lens to ourselves as helping professionals and leadersWhy wellbeing isn't solely the responsibility of the individual workerHow our workplace environment can impact us beyond the demands of client workThe difference between what an organisation says about wellbeing and what staff actually experienceWhy ongoing reflective practice can be more meaningful than a once-a-year initiativeThe importance of quality, regular supervisionPsychological safety, neuro-affirming workplaces and feeling safe to be yourself at workWhy leaders need supervision, reflective practice and support tooLooking beyond R U OK? Day and asking: What does staff wellbeing look like on an ordinary Tuesday?A reflection for you Think about your own workplace environment. What within your workplace supports your wellbeing, and what within your environment makes your wellbeing harder to maintain? Workplace wellbeing shouldn't only be something we talk about on designated wellbeing days. It needs to be supported through the culture, leadership, systems and everyday experiences of the people doing the work. Work directly with Jazmin: Looking for professional support, reflective practice, training or group supervision? Explore Jazmin Pursell Consulting Group Supervision for Practitioners and Leaders Boundaries as Practitioners online training Free resources for helping professionals and leaders Access Jazmin's free practical resources designed to support helping professionals and leaders in their everyday work. Socialise with Jazmin: Instagram Website Thank you so much for joining me on the Not Another PD podcast and I can't wait to see you here next week.

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Tired of professional development that talks at you instead of about the realities of your work? Not Another PD is a podcast for helping professionals who are done with overgiving, blurred boundaries, and wellbeing conversations that don’t match the systems they’re working in. Hosted by Jazmin Pursell, social worker, supervisor, and organisational consultant. The podcast explores boundaries, burnout, capacity, and leadership, and refuses the idea that good practice requires self-sacrifice. www.jazminpursell.com.au