Not Another PD

Jazmin Pursell Consulting

Tired of professional development that talks at you instead of about the realities of your work? Not Another PD is a podcast for helping professionals who are done with overgiving, blurred boundaries, and wellbeing conversations that don’t match the systems they’re working in. Hosted by Jazmin Pursell, social worker, supervisor, and organisational consultant. The podcast explores boundaries, burnout, capacity, and leadership, and refuses the idea that good practice requires self-sacrifice. www.jazminpursell.com.au

  1. 1d ago

    Episode 56: Your job can’t be your only measure of success with Anthony Simons.

    Episode 56: Your job can’t be your only measure of success with Anthony Simons. What happens when work becomes the main place we look for achievement, confidence and a sense of success? In this episode of Not Another PD, I’m joined by Anthony Simons, an Adelaide-based social worker, founder of Fit N Well and the creator of Exercise Based Therapy. Anthony shares his journey from elite sport into social work and how these two seemingly different worlds eventually came together. We chat about why traditional approaches to mental health support don’t work for everyone, the importance of adapting our practice to the individual, and what can happen when helping professionals are encouraged to think differently. One of my favourite parts of our conversation is Anthony’s concept of “domains of success.”  When work becomes our main source of achievement, identity and purpose, a difficult period professionally can start to feel like everything is going wrong. Having other parts of our lives where we can learn, grow, challenge ourselves and experience success can be incredibly valuable. We chat about: Anthony’s journey from elite sport into social workHow Exercise Based Therapy developedWhy work can’t be our only domain of successMovement and mental wellbeingBeing a beginner and allowing ourselves to not be good at something yetPerfectionism and the pressure to have all the answersSupervision, vulnerability and professional growthLimiting beliefs and how our environments can reinforce themThe role of leaders and workplaces in supporting people to growKnowing our professional values and finding environments where we can live and work in alignment with them. This is such an interesting chat about movement, identity, values and creating a life where our work can be important to us without becoming our only measure of success. Connect with Anthony: Fit N Well Exercise Based Therapy Facebook LinkedIn I’m Jazmin Pursell, a qualified social worker with a Master of Social Work and Master of Mental Health, and founder of Jazmin Pursell Consulting. I support leaders, teams and practitioners across community services, allied health, disability, government and education through professional supervision, leadership consultation, team reflective practice, workshops and training. Work with Jazmin: Explore ways to work with me via my website. Book a 1-1 supervision or consultation. Group supervision programs (for Leaders and Practitioners). Explore my free resources. I’d love to support you. I’d love to connect with you outside the podcast too. Come and say hello, let me know what you thought of the episode, or share what resonated with you. Socialise with Jazmin: Instagram LinkedIn If you enjoyed this episode, I’d love it if you followed Not Another PD and shared it with a colleague or friend who might enjoy the conversation too. Thanks so much for listening. Jazmin.

  2. Oct 15

    Episode 55: When systems lose sight of the person with Kym McMinn

    Episode 55: When systems lose sight of the person with Kym McMinn. What happens when diagnosis, risk and systems start to overshadow the person? In this episode of Not Another PD, I’m joined by Kym McMinn, Founding Director of T & K Support Services and creator of the Identity Before Diagnosis approach. Drawing on more than 25 years across health, mental health, disability and community services, alongside lived experience navigating the mental health system with her son, Kym brings a powerful perspective on what happens when systems lose sight of the person. We also explore what this means for helping professionals, leaders and the organisations they work within. • What Identity Before Diagnosis looks like in practice • How diagnosis, risk and rigid systems can overshadow the person • Lived experience, peer roles and building people’s capacity • Leadership, staff wellbeing and staying connected to frontline practice Diagnosis and risk matter, but they should never become the whole story. This episode includes a brief discussion of suicide and experiences within the mental health system. The discussion of suicide begins at approximately 5:03. Please take care while listening and skip ahead if you need to. Kym McMinn LinkedIn T & K Support Services website T and K Support Services LinkedIn T and K Support Services Facebook Professional supervision, leadership consultation, team reflective practice, workshops and professional development. Book a supervision or consultation session with me Group supervision (Starting 19th and 20th October) Boundaries as Practitioners (Online self-paced training) Boundaries Pyramid (FREE resource) Instagram LinkedIn Website Thank you for listening to another episode of Not Another PD. If this conversation made you think of a colleague, practitioner or leader, please share it with them. I’d also love to hear what stood out for you. Come and say hi on Instagram or LinkedIn. Take care, and I’ll see you next week. Jaz

  3. Oct 8

    Episode 54: What ADHD actually looks like at work with Emma Fenton

    Episode 54: What ADHD Actually Looks Like at Work with Emma Fenton “ADHD is described as not a lack of attention, it’s lack of attention in things that don’t interest you.” - Emma Fenton What does ADHD actually look like at work, beyond the stereotypes? In this episode of Not Another PD, I’m joined by Emma Fenton. We talk about ADHD in the helping professions, including fluctuating energy, sensory needs, rejection sensitivity, feedback, working under pressure and playing to people’s strengths. Emma also explains what can happen in our bodies and nervous systems when we experience stress, conflict or overwhelm, and shares practical ways to recognise and respond to it. We also chat about moving interstate and regionally for work, finding the right supervision, and what leaders can consider when supporting neurodivergent staff. Emma has previously participated in my Group Supervision programs and shares what she valued about having dedicated space for reflection away from KPIs, funding and operational tasks. Emma Fenton is an ADHDer Accredited Mental Health Social Worker and Somatic Therapist with over 16 years of experience supporting individuals and families across all stages of life. Her experience spans neurodivergence, carer support, aged care, early childhood intervention, emergency services, WorkCover, community health, hospitals, employee assistance programmes, and government services. Emma’s Therapeutic Questioning and Formulation Workbook Emma mentions during our conversation that she was developing this resource. Since recording, it’s finished and now available for purchase here. My free Work From Home Environment Self-Audit I also mention my Work From Home Environment Self-Audit, a reflective tool for helping professionals and leaders to consider how their work-from-home environment may be influencing boundaries, capacity, sensory needs, privacy, workday preparation, role clarity and psychological safety. You can download it for free here. These weren’t discussed in the episode, but Emma also recommends: ​The Year I Met My Brain by Matilda Boseley​ADHD Explained by Edward M. Hallowell​The Neurodivergent Woman Podcast​Jennifer Kemp Connect with Emma: Instagram Emma F Therapy website Connect with and work with Jazmin: I support helping professionals and leaders through supervision, professional consultation, Group Supervision and training. Strategise with me, book supervision or a consultation. Group Supervision for Leaders and Practitioners (next groups starting mid October 2026). Boundaries as Practitioners training (online and self-paced, AUD$59). WebsiteLinkedInInstagram Thank you so much for listening to another episode of Not Another PD. I really appreciate you spending some of your time with Emma and I. If you enjoyed the episode, please share it with another helping professional or leader who might find it helpful, and follow Not Another PD wherever you listen to your podcasts. Until next time, Jazmin

  4. Oct 1

    Episode 53: Sound, stress and staying connected as a leader with Jessica Mak

    Episode 53: Sound, stress and staying connected as a leader with Jessica Mak. Have you ever heard of sound therapy? Well, if you haven’t, you’re about to. In Episode 53 of Not Another PD, I’m joined by Jessica Mak, founder of Blüte Sound Therapy & Wellbeing. Jessica has worked across early childhood education, community services and family violence practice. Her experience in emotionally demanding roles also led her to explore ways of supporting her own regulation, eventually leading her to sound therapy. In this episode, we explore sound therapy, workplace wellbeing, leadership and practical ways helping professionals can support regulation during busy workdays. Jessica’s career across early childhood education, community services and family violence practice Vicarious trauma and the impact of emotionally demanding work What sound therapy is and what happens during a session Sound and vibration as tools to support regulation Workplace wellbeing and the difference between talking about it and creating the conditions for it Leadership role-modelling and giving staff genuine permission to pause Staying connected to your team rather than relying only on formal supervision Playfulness and humanity in professional spaces Recognising early signs of stress in your body Boundaries between work and personal life Practical regulation strategies for busy workdays, including music, breathing and sensory tools About Jessica Mak: Jessica Mak is the founder and practitioner behind Blüte Sound Therapy & Wellbeing, a holistic wellbeing practice based in Frankston South, Victoria, offering sessions for individuals and workplaces. Jessica has extensive experience in early childhood education across Australia, Ireland and Germany, as well as in community services and family violence practice. Her professional background has shaped her approach to care, connection, emotional regulation and trauma-informed practice. Connect with Jessica: Blüte Sound Therapy & Wellbeing LinkedIn Instagram Email: hello@bluetesoundtherapy.com Work with Jazmin: Individual supervision and professional consultation Would you like a dedicated space to reflect on your practice, leadership, boundaries and the challenges that come with supporting other people? Group supervision for leaders and helping professionals Join a small group of helping professionals for facilitated reflection, connection and professional development. Boundaries as Practitioners training Self-paced professional development for helping professionals wanting to strengthen their boundaries in practice. AASW CPD eligible and ACA OPD approved. Free Boundaries Pyramid Explore where your boundaries currently sit across Survive, Sustain and Thrive. Before Work Boundaries A practical resource to help you reflect on the boundaries you have in place before your workday even begins. Socialise with Jazmin: Instagram LinkedIn If this conversation made you think of someone you work with, share this episode with a colleague. And if you’re enjoying Not Another PD, I’d really appreciate it if you could leave a rating or review wherever you listen. It helps more helping professionals and leaders find the podcast. Thank you so much for listening to Not Another PD. See you next time. Jazmin

  5. Sep 24

    Episode 52: Are frontline workers prepared for crisis? With Michelle Inwood

    Episode 52: Are Frontline Workers Prepared for Crisis? With Michelle Inwood If you work in a helping profession, there’s a good chance that at some point you’re going to find yourself supporting someone in crisis. But how well are we actually preparing people for those moments? In this episode, I’m joined by Michelle Inwood, Founder and Lead Trainer at INWOOD Training & Design. Michelle has spent seventeen years working across mental health and community services. We talk about what can help when someone is in crisis, what can unintentionally make things worse, and whether we sometimes expect frontline workers to manage situations they haven’t been adequately trained or supported for. Michelle also shares her STAND™ Crisis Response framework, a five-step approach designed to give people practical tools they can use when supporting clients, colleagues and themselves. In this episode, we chat about: • Whether frontline workers are adequately prepared for crisis situations• Why rushing in to “fix” a crisis can sometimes make things worse• Creating safety and responding consistently across teams• Debriefing and supporting workers after difficult incidents• The role of supervision and reflective practice• What leaders and organisations can do to better support frontline staff• Why leaders need their own support too• Michelle’s five-step STAND™ Crisis Response framework Connect with Michelle: INWOOD Training & Design LinkedIn Instagram Email: michelle@inwoodtraining.com.au Work with Jazmin: Looking for professional supervision, reflective practice, training or consultation? Find out more about working with me Explore upcoming group supervision Supporting everyone else can make it easy to overlook your own boundaries. Free resource: The Boundaries Pyramid My free Boundaries Pyramid is a reflective tool for helping professionals and leaders to consider their boundaries across three levels: Survive, Sustain and Thrive. Download it here Socialise with Jazmin: LinkedIn Instagram Join my email community Thank you so much for listening to Not Another PD. See you next time. Jazmin

  6. Sep 17

    Episode 51: Are young staff really not work ready? With Jono van der Ploeg

    Episode 51: Are young staff really not work ready? With Jono van der Ploeg. We hear a lot about young people entering the workforce. They’re not resilient enough. They need too much reassurance. They don’t show enough initiative. They’re not loyal. They’re just not “work ready.” But how much of that is actually about young people, and how much responsibility sits with the workplaces employing them? In Episode 51 of Not Another PD, I’m joined by Jono van der Ploeg, a youth worker and facilitator with more than 20 years of experience working alongside young people across youth work, community development, mentoring and local government. Through Confidence in Mentoring, Jono works with organisations to improve how they employ, onboard, mentor and develop young staff. He also hosts the Not Work Ready podcast, where he challenges some of the common assumptions made about young people entering the workforce. Jono shares his own experience of starting out as a young youth worker in a workplace where he received little support and was eventually told he wasn’t cut out for youth work. We talk about the impact leaders can have on the confidence of early career professionals, particularly when someone is still developing their professional judgement and finding their place in the workforce. We also explore workplace belonging and psychological safety, and why creating a team where people feel able to ask questions, receive feedback, contribute ideas and admit when they don’t know something matters for young and early career staff. In this episode, we chat about: Common stereotypes about young employees, including that they lack resilience, loyalty, initiative or a willingness to workWhy “not work ready” might sometimes describe the workplace rather than the young personPsychological safety and workplace belonging, particularly for young and early career professionals entering a new teamHow leaders can help people feel safe to ask questions, learn, contribute and develop confidence at workThe unwritten workplace rules that experienced professionals can easily take for grantedWhy completing a qualification doesn’t mean someone automatically knows how to work within a particular organisation or professionThe importance of onboarding, mentoring and clear expectations for new and early career employeesGiving constructive feedback without making the person feel like they are a bad employeeThe difference between loyalty to an organisation and belonging within a teamHow leaders can make space for quieter or less experienced staff rather than allowing the loudest or most experienced voices to dominateThe role of leaders in creating team culture and modelling the behaviour they want to see. One of the things I really enjoyed about this conversation was challenging the assumption that because someone has finished their degree or qualification, they should automatically know what to do when they arrive in a professional workplace. Qualifications matter, but so do good onboarding, workplace mentoring, supervision, psychological safety, clear expectations and constructive feedback. We all had a first job. We all had a first professional role. Somewhere along the way, someone had to teach us the things that now seem obvious. Connect with Jono: Confidence in Mentoring website LinkedIn Emailjonathon@confidenceinmentoring.com.au Not Work Ready Blog on Substack Not Work Ready podcast Work with Jazmin: I provide individual and group supervision, reflective practice, training and consultancy for helping professionals, leaders and organisations. Website Group Supervision (Practitioners / Leaders groups) Boundaries as Practitioners training (AUD$59, online self-paced) Leadership Focus Groups EOI - Share your leadership experience to inform the topics of our next training! Socialise with Jazmin: LinkedIn Instagram Join my email community Thank you so much for listening to Not Another PD.  See you next time. Jazmin

  7. Sep 10

    Episode 50: Don’t text me at 9 PM: Burnout, boundaries and the conversations leaders need to have with Matthew Jackson

    Episode 50: Don’t Text Me at 9 PM: Burnout, Boundaries and the Conversations Leaders Need to Have with Matthew Jackson Episode 50 woo hoo! 🎉 For this milestone episode of Not Another PD, I’m joined by senior psychologist, Board-approved supervisor and self-described “personality hire” Matthew Jackson. And yes, we talk about why you probably shouldn’t text your leader at 9 PM about something that could have been an email the next morning. But this conversation goes much further than after-hours messages. Matt has worked across private practice, hospitals, corporate teams and university settings, as well as leading teams himself. Outside of psychology, Matt also has another professional identity as drag performer Matilda Mercury Queen. Together, we get into the very human side of leadership: burnout, boundaries, difficult conversations, resentment, self-awareness, professional support and what happens when either leaders or their staff start to disconnect from the work. We also talk about why burnout isn’t simply an individual resilience problem, why leaders need somewhere safe to be supported themselves, and what leaders can do when they realise something isn’t quite right within themselves or their team. In this episode, we discuss: Warning signs that leaders themselves may be strugglingAfter-hours communication and setting clear boundaries with your teamHow to have difficult conversations without damaging professional relationshipsWhy leaders need to ask, “What’s my part in this?”Warning signs that staff may be struggling, disengaged or burning outBurnout as an individual, leadership and organisational responsibilityWhy blaming individual workers for not being “resilient enough” misses the bigger pictureHow leaders without a clinical background can better understand the realities of frontline practiceStaying curious and asking your team questions rather than making assumptionsWhy leaders acknowledging their own mistakes can help create safer teamsProfessional supervision, peer support and other places leaders can access support without relying on their staffMatt’s simple two-minute self-awareness check-inConnection to your role, your team and your organisation, and what it might mean when one of those connections starts to disappear. Towards the end of the episode, Matt gives us another great reflection: think about how connected you currently feel to your role, your team and your organisation. If the answer is “no” to one of them, that doesn’t necessarily mean everything is bad. It’s a clue. As Matt puts it, pick up the magnifying glass, be Agatha Christie and investigate. What has changed? What are you missing? What is your part in it? And what might need to change? Because, as Matt also asks, why does business have to be so serious? Connect with Matt: Email: mjpsychology@outlook.com Instagram LinkedIn Work with Jazmin: I support leaders, practitioners and organisations across the helping professions through professional supervision, leadership development, training and consultation. Explore my services Group Supervision Boundaries as Practitioners Training Free resources Are you a leader in the helping professions? I’m currently running online focus groups with Australian-based leaders to help shape new leadership training around reflective practice, professional boundaries, wellbeing and psychosocial safety. I’d love to hear from leaders across different helping professions, roles and sectors. Express your interest here Socialise with Jazmin: Instagram LinkedIn Facebook Website Join my email community Thanks so much for listening to Episode 50 of Not Another PD!  And a huge thank you to Matt for such a fun, honest and very Matt conversation. If this episode got you thinking about your own boundaries, leadership or how connected you’re feeling to your work, I’d love to hear what stood out for you. And remember: if it can wait until 9 AM, maybe don’t text your leader at 9 PM.

  8. Sep 3

    Episode 49: When the caring doesn’t stop at the end of the workday with Renee Firth

    Episode 49: When the Caring Doesn’t Stop at the End of the Workday with Renee Firth. As helping professionals and leaders, many of us spend our working lives supporting other people. But what happens when you finish work and the caring doesn’t stop there? In this episode of Not Another PD, I’m joined by Renee Firth, mental wellbeing coach, founder of ASD Mum Club and mum to a non-speaking autistic child with ADHD. Renee and I talk about the experience of being both a helping professional and a carer, and the additional load that can come with balancing caring responsibilities at work and at home. Drawing on her previous work in residential rehabilitation, Renee shares why she was intentional about not asking people to unnecessarily retell traumatic experiences, and how that work shaped the way she supports people today. We also talk about professional boundaries when you share lived experience with the people you support, moving beyond spaces that only allow us to vent, and why wellbeing needs to be something we consider throughout our everyday lives rather than waiting until we are already depleted. In this episode, we talk about: Working in a helping profession while also having caring responsibilities outside of workWhat Renee learned from supporting people experiencing crisis in residential rehabilitationWhy we don’t always need people to retell their trauma to another professionalHow lived experience can inform the way we support othersMaintaining professional boundaries when you share experiences with the people you supportWhy support spaces need to offer more than an opportunity to ventLooking after your wellbeing before you reach the point of burnoutMoving beyond occasional massages, days off and other one-off approaches to wellbeingFinding small opportunities to reset throughout the working dayWhy helping professionals and leaders need their own support tooBuilding a circle of support around yourselfWhat it means to be the leader of your own life. One of the things that really stood out to me from our conversation was Renee’s reminder that we are not meant to be doing this life alone. When you spend so much of your professional and personal life caring for other people, who is in your circle supporting you? About Renee: Renee Firth is a mental wellbeing coach for mums raising autistic children and the founder of ASD Mum Club. After working in crisis care within a residential rehabilitation service, Renee experienced burnout herself while balancing work and caring for her non-speaking autistic child with ADHD. Her own experience of rebuilding her wellbeing led her to develop the CALM Life Framework, which focuses on practical ways to support wellbeing within the life you already have. Through ASD Mum Club, Renee has created a private community for mums raising autistic children to access support, connection and practical resources. Connect with Renee: Website Instagram YouTube Work with Jazmin: Leadership Focus Groups:Are you an Australian-based leader in the helping professions? I’m currently running online focus groups to help shape new leadership training. Express your interest here Services Group Supervision (Starting October 2026) Boundaries as Practitioners Training Free Resources Join Jazmin’s Email Community Socialise with Jazmin: Instagram LinkedIn Facebook Website Thank you so much for listening to Not Another PD. I look forward to welcoming you next week. Jazmin.

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Tired of professional development that talks at you instead of about the realities of your work? Not Another PD is a podcast for helping professionals who are done with overgiving, blurred boundaries, and wellbeing conversations that don’t match the systems they’re working in. Hosted by Jazmin Pursell, social worker, supervisor, and organisational consultant. The podcast explores boundaries, burnout, capacity, and leadership, and refuses the idea that good practice requires self-sacrifice. www.jazminpursell.com.au