Hero to Zero

Ken Pearson

Hero to Zero pulls back the polished corporate curtain and reveals what really goes down in HR, recruiting, leadership, and workplace culture.Hosted by Ken Pearson — Certified Global HR Professional, Executive Coach, and veteran of more conference rooms than he cares to admit — this podcast explores the moments when best-laid plans meet human nature... and chaos wins. Each month, we tackle a new part of the HR ecosystem — recruiting disasters, DEI misfires, leadership lessons learned the hard way — with real stories, expert guests, and just enough sarcasm to keep it honest. Expect real mistakes, real solutions, and real laughs.No buzzwords. No corporate Kool-Aid. Just the behind-the-scenes reality you always suspected was happening. Because in HR (and life)... it only takes one email to go from hero to zero. 🎧 New episodes drop monthly.📩 Got a workplace horror story? Email us at ken.pearson@shadetree-consulting.com — we might just feature it.

Episodes

  1. May 26

    Leadership Investment – Why Now Is the Time (Not the Time to Cut)

    In this episode of Hero to Zero, Ken Pearson sits down with Tina Schust Robinson to challenge one of the most common—and costly—assumptions in business today: When uncertainty rises, leadership development gets cut. Tina makes the opposite case. In moments of instability, leadership is not a cost to manage—it’s the deciding factor in whether a business stabilizes, adapts, and grows… or stalls under pressure. Drawing from decades of experience across consulting, operations, and leadership coaching, Tina reframes leadership development as leadership investment—a strategic lever that must be directly tied to business outcomes, not treated as a standalone HR initiative. Together, Ken and Tina unpack why so many organizations invest heavily in leadership—and still fail to see results. They explore the disconnect between strategy and execution, the over-reliance on programs without purpose, and the hard truth that much of what companies call development is simply corporate theater. In this conversation, you’ll hear: Why most leadership development efforts fail to deliver measurable impactThe critical mistake organizations make by starting with how instead of whyHow to connect leadership investment directly to business strategy and outcomesWhy ROI in leadership isn’t always financial—but still must be observable and realHow to identify where leadership gaps are actually costing the businessA practical approach to getting started: start small, prove value, and scale intentionallyThis episode is especially relevant for leaders heading into planning cycles, budget decisions, or navigating uncertain economic conditions. It challenges the instinct to pause investment—and instead makes the case for doubling down where it matters most. Tina also shares insights from her upcoming book, Developing Your Business Leaders: A Guide to Investing at All Levels, which provides a practical framework for building leadership capability that actually translates into business performance. 📘 Learn more about Tina’s work and her book here: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1960231766? If you’ve ever questioned whether leadership development is worth the investment—or struggled to prove its impact—this conversation will change how you think about it. 🎙️ Thanks for listening to Hero to Zero — where the real stories of HR, leadership, and corporate life get told (finally). 📩 Got a wild workplace story? We want to hear it: ken.pearson@shadetree-consulting.com 🧠 New episodes drop monthly — subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Because in HR... it only takes one email to go from hero to zero.

    42 min
  2. 10/21/2025

    H_AI_R: When the Humans in HR Compete With the Robots

    H_AI_R: When the Humans in HR Compete with the Robots A conversation with Russell Porter on how HR can protect what stays human in the age of AI. In this episode of Hero to Zero, Russell Porter joins Ken Pearson to explore what happens when HR’s most human qualities—empathy, judgment, and culture—collide with the rise of artificial intelligence. Together they unpack the five levels of AI capability, the limits of human change capacity, and why “designing for dignity” might be the most important skill of all. As organizations chase efficiency through automation, HR stands at the fault line between progress and purpose. Russell and Ken discuss what happens when algorithms start hiring, managing, and evaluating people—and what leaders can do to preserve trust, fairness, and humanity inside increasingly digital workplaces. In This Episode • The five levels of AI and how they’re reshaping human work • HR’s evolving role: AI for scale, humans for depth • Change fatigue, empathy, and the emotional side of transformation • How to “design for dignity” in every stage of AI adoption • The ethical gap between innovation and accountability Key Moments 00:00 – Opening: What we choose to keep human 03:00 – The cultural lens on technology 07:00 – The five levels of AI 11:00 – Change fatigue and finite human capacity 17:00 – HR’s role in the age of AI 28:00 – Empathy, authenticity, and accountability 39:00 – The “Jared effect” and AI guardrails 52:00 – Closing: Designing for dignity Takeaway Quote “Innovation isn’t the opposite of empathy—it’s a mirror that shows us who we’re becoming.”Why Listen This conversation invites HR and business leaders to slow down long enough to ask the right question: as machines get smarter, what will it mean to stay human at work? The answers may redefine how we hire, manage, and measure success in an AI-enabled world. Credits Host & Producer: Ken Pearson Guest: Russell Porter Production: Hero to Zero Learn more and join the discussion at HeroToZeroPodcast.com 🎙️ Thanks for listening to Hero to Zero — where the real stories of HR, leadership, and corporate life get told (finally). 📩 Got a wild workplace story? We want to hear it: ken.pearson@shadetree-consulting.com 🧠 New episodes drop monthly — subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Because in HR... it only takes one email to go from hero to zero.

    43 min
  3. 08/25/2025

    Episode 4 | Resenteeism: They Check In but Don’t Check Out

    What happens when employees keep showing up physically, but emotionally and mentally they’ve already left? Welcome to the world of Resenteeism — the workplace trend where people check in, but they don’t truly check out. You’ve probably heard of presenteeism (being at work but not fully productive) and quiet quitting (dialing back effort to the bare minimum). Resenteeism is different — and more dangerous. It’s what happens when frustration, dissatisfaction, or burnout take root, but people still occupy their desks, attend meetings, and go through the motions. Their presence masks the problem, yet their resentment quietly spreads through the culture. In this episode of Hero to Zero, host Ken Pearson is joined by Michelle Hargis Wolfe, an experienced HR leader and culture strategist, to unpack this subtle but powerful dynamic. Together, they explore: Why resenteeism is on the rise in today’s disrupted workplaceHow it erodes trust and culture when left uncheckedThe difference between burnout, disengagement, and resenteeism — and why leaders must learn to spot the signsThe hidden costs of ignoring employee sentiment while focusing only on outputPractical ways leaders can respond, from improving feedback loops to building psychological safety and rethinking performance metricsMichelle brings a unique perspective on how organizations can build cultures of transparency and trust that keep resentment from festering in the first place. Her insights help leaders shift from reacting to symptoms to proactively creating environments where employees can be candid, engaged, and truly present. For listeners in leadership, HR, or team management roles, this conversation offers both clarity and a call to action: don’t assume attendance equals engagement. If people are showing up physically but leaving their best energy, creativity, and commitment at the door, resenteeism may already be reshaping your workplace. By the end of this episode, you’ll walk away with: A sharper understanding of what resenteeism looks like in real timeLanguage to start meaningful conversations with your teamsActionable ideas to re-energize engagement and rebuild trust🌐 How This Fits into Hero to Zero Each episode of Hero to Zero peels back another layer of how work really feels on the inside versus how it looks on the outside. In Episode 1 we examined the shifting role of recruiting. In Episode 2, Frederic Deschamps joined to talk about culture misalignment — when the “music” of daily life doesn’t match the “lyrics” of corporate promises. In Episode 3, we dug into learning and adaptability in a disrupted world. This episode on resenteeism carries that thread forward: it shows what happens when culture breaks down in quiet, invisible ways. It’s not the dramatic resignation letter or the viral social media rant — it’s the slow drift of resentment that leaders often miss until it’s too late. By connecting these dots across the season, listeners can start to see a larger pattern: organizations succeed or fail not on their stated policies, but on the lived experiences of their people. 📣 Call to Action If you found this conversation valuable, please take a moment to: Subscribe to Hero to Zero on your favorite podcast platform so you never miss an episodeRate and review the show — your feedback helps others discover these conversationsShare this episode with a colleague, leader, or friend who needs to hear about resenteeism before it quietly reshapes their workplaceHero to Zero is about telling the unfiltered truth of work — the moments where culture, leadership, and humanity either align or collide. Join the conversation, sprea 🎙️ Thanks for listening to Hero to Zero — where the real stories of HR, leadership, and corporate life get told (finally). 📩 Got a wild workplace story? We want to hear it: ken.pearson@shadetree-consulting.com 🧠 New episodes drop monthly — subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Because in HR... it only takes one email to go from hero to zero.

    33 min
  4. 07/15/2025

    Learning & Development: The Training Trap

    Companies love to say they’re “learning organizations.” But when the pressure hits, training is the first to get cut—or worse, it's used to mask deeper failures in leadership, culture, and accountability. In this episode of Hero to Zero, host Ken Pearson sits down with David Dauman, CEO of Solutions House and longtime L&D advisor, to unpack how corporate training programs can become a performance illusion. What starts as a genuine effort to develop people often collapses into checkbox compliance, hollow slogans, and “launch in 30, measure in 2” metrics that never had a chance. Together, Ken and David explore: Why so many learning initiatives are designed to failThe difference between training that teaches vs. training that protects leadership opticsThe myth of self-directed learning—and what people actually need to growThe fading line between “development” and “damage control”Real stories from organizations that got it right—and those that faked it until trust was goneDavid introduces his framework of Compliant vs. Catalyst organizations: Compliant systems train people to "do no harm." Catalyst systems develop people to "do more good." You’ll also hear sharp metaphors, lived satire, and stories that blend humanity with strategic critique—from the gym to Hamburger University to operating rooms and construction sites. This is one of our most layered episodes yet. Whether you're in HR, executive leadership, or just tired of being “trained” without being supported—this episode will hit home. 🔊 Subscribe and listen to Hero to Zero on your favorite platform: 🎧 Apple Podcasts: [link] 🎧 Spotify: [link] 🌐 All platforms: https://linktr.ee/ShadeTreeConsulting Follow David Dauman 🔗https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-s-dauman-a11bb8/ Follow Ken Pearson and ShadeTree Consulting 🔗 https://www.linkedin.com/in/pearsonken/ 🔗 https://shadetree-consulting.com/ Hero to Zero: What happens when leadership efforts collapse—and how to rebuild better. 🎙️ Thanks for listening to Hero to Zero — where the real stories of HR, leadership, and corporate life get told (finally). 📩 Got a wild workplace story? We want to hear it: ken.pearson@shadetree-consulting.com 🧠 New episodes drop monthly — subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Because in HR... it only takes one email to go from hero to zero.

    49 min
  5. 06/15/2025

    Culture: Do the Music and Lyrics Match?

    🎙️ Hero to Zero | Episode 2: "Do the Music and Lyrics Match?" Guest: Fred Deschamps, Founder of FitMe What happens when the culture your company sings doesn’t match the one your people hear? In this episode, Ken Pearson sits down with Fred Deschamps—cultural strategist and founder of FitMe—to dissect the dangerous disconnect between stated values and lived experience inside organizations. Using the metaphor of a dysfunctional orchestra, they explore how corporate leadership often acts as the conductor, shouting “people first” while setting a tempo that burns people out. From HR to high performers, from silent middle managers to performative policies, this episode tackles the reality of what happens when the music and lyrics of workplace culture don't match. Fred brings 30+ years of corporate experience and the data to back up what many have felt but couldn’t prove: culture misalignment can now be measured. And when it's ignored, it doesn't just cost you talent—it breaks trust, destroys engagement, and creates dissonance that no mission statement can fix. In this episode: 🎼 Why employees fake harmony when leaders are out of sync 🧠 How culture becomes weaponized by well-meaning managers 🧛 “Vampires and Zombies”: the hidden risk of toxic high performers 📉 Real-life moments when policies killed trust (“Bring us a death certificate”) 🧾 How record profits and pizza parties became the new gaslight 📊 What FitMe is doing to measure and predict culture fit—before it’s too late If you’ve ever been promised belonging and given burnout… If you’ve ever watched a quarterly town hall and thought, “Do these execs even like each other?”… If you’ve ever wondered whether the culture is really what it claims to be… This one’s for you. 🎧 Listen now on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. If you missed Episode 1 with Dean Trimble, it’s streaming now: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7iLN4wCQwyqL2bcaOqvqsp Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-01-recruiting/id1810908481?i=1000708583152 About the Host: Ken Pearson is the founder of ShadeTree Consulting and architect of the Eye to I framework. He’s spent two decades coaching executives, rebuilding cultures, and calling out the gap between what organizations say and what they do. Hero to Zero is where those stories get told—with candor, context, and a refusal to sanitize the truth. 🎙️ Thanks for listening to Hero to Zero — where the real stories of HR, leadership, and corporate life get told (finally). 📩 Got a wild workplace story? We want to hear it: ken.pearson@shadetree-consulting.com 🧠 New episodes drop monthly — subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Because in HR... it only takes one email to go from hero to zero.

    41 min

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Hero to Zero pulls back the polished corporate curtain and reveals what really goes down in HR, recruiting, leadership, and workplace culture.Hosted by Ken Pearson — Certified Global HR Professional, Executive Coach, and veteran of more conference rooms than he cares to admit — this podcast explores the moments when best-laid plans meet human nature... and chaos wins. Each month, we tackle a new part of the HR ecosystem — recruiting disasters, DEI misfires, leadership lessons learned the hard way — with real stories, expert guests, and just enough sarcasm to keep it honest. Expect real mistakes, real solutions, and real laughs.No buzzwords. No corporate Kool-Aid. Just the behind-the-scenes reality you always suspected was happening. Because in HR (and life)... it only takes one email to go from hero to zero. 🎧 New episodes drop monthly.📩 Got a workplace horror story? Email us at ken.pearson@shadetree-consulting.com — we might just feature it.