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AGI Podcast — Advance, Grow, Innovate with AI For people who got stuck making AI work and educators preparing students for what's next. Our mission is to cut through AI hype with practical insights for workforce development, education, and small to medium businesses → where AI implementation happens in the trenches, not the headlines. 3 shows, 1 mission: *Saturdays: School's Out - Educators and students preparing for an AI-driven future schoolsout.agipodcast.ai/ Mondays: The Weekly Blitz - AI news recaps with cohost Julie Koehrer Monthly: The Vibe - Long-form deep dive conversations

  1. Magic School AI vs ChatGPT: Safer AI for K-12 Classrooms

    20H AGO

    Magic School AI vs ChatGPT: Safer AI for K-12 Classrooms

    What's the difference between ChatGPT and Magic School AI inside a K-12 classroom? Tanika Kinartail, Professional Learning Specialist at the Central Indiana Educational Service Center (CIESC), joins host Jason Padgett to answer that question and a dozen others educators are asking in 2026. Key topics covered: - Magic School AI vs ChatGPT: how vertical AI handles a frustrated student differently - Teacher buy-in vs. teacher efficacy, and why one is compliance and the other is capacity - The iceberg problem: why AI output is the tip and student process is everything underneath - The work-based learning gap: schools and industry passing the AI responsibility back and forth - Why Tanika tells her 9th-grade daughter to follow skills, not passion - CIESC's train-the-trainer model for districts with no PD budget and no subs - Preview of the May 12 AI Symposium at the Pyramids in Indianapolis (for instructional leaders, not just teachers) - Writing feedback tools, 34 fifth graders, and how one AI feature could have saved a pregnant teacher's sanity Bottom line: AI is not here to replace teachers. The teachers and students who learn to use it well will be the ones who move the needle on student achievement. And right now, Indiana is finally catching up. About Tanika Kinartail: Professional Learning Specialist at CIESC, Adjunct Faculty at Ivy Tech Indianapolis, certified MagicSchool AI Trainer, SIOP certified, 19 years in Indiana education. IU Bloomington alumna. Brownsburg, Indiana. Connect with Tanika Kinartail:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tanika-kinartailCIESC: https://ciesc.org/Keep Indiana Learning: https://keepindianalearning.org/ Register for the CIESC AI Symposium → keepindianalearning.org Work with Jason → jason@mycitizen.ai Newsletter → linkedin.com/build-relation/newsletter-follow?entityUrn=7399599285849346048 AGI Podcast shows: School's Out Saturdays: AI in education, K-12 through university Weekly Blitz: AI news every Monday, 30-45 minutes Data Bytes: Data literacy for business owners The Vibe: Deep conversations, no time limit All platforms: linktr.ee/AGIPodcast Follow: Facebook + LinkedIn @AGIPodcast | Instagram @AGISchoolsout | X @NoCodeCAIO Tools Jason recommends: MindStudio → get.mindstudio.ai/q7n7u5cttkdq Riverside.fm → riverside.sjv.io/e1xyBr Wispr Flow → ref.wisprflow.ai/jason-padgett

    1h 4m
  2. Why AI Subscriptions Are About to Break (Tokenomics Explained)

    20H AGO

    Why AI Subscriptions Are About to Break (Tokenomics Explained)

    Why are AI subscriptions about to break? This week's AI podcast unpacks tokenomics, the gym-membership flaw in ChatGPT and Claude pricing, and what happens when AI agents start running 50,000 queries a minute instead of one human at a time. Plus Huawei's 7nm chip independence, the Musk vs Altman trial, and what Meta's Indiana data center should look like if big tech borrowed the solar industry's community-benefit playbook. Key topics covered: AI tokenomics and why subscription pricing collapses under agentic workloads Huawei 7nm chips running DeepSeek and Kimi K2 outside U.S. control Open-source vs closed-weights vs closed AI models, in plain English The Musk vs Altman OpenAI trial and the $151 billion question Whether OpenAI ends up as a U.S. government arm of AI Alpha School, $100K teacher salaries, and AI in K-12 compensation Meta's Lebanon, Indiana data center and community-benefit agreements Bottom line: the AI economy is about to reprice itself, and the people who quietly benefit from that shift will not be the same people getting billed for it. About Julie Koehrer: On-Air Personality at Lafayette Q106.7. 15+ years in radio and broadcast. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliekoehrer/ Resources mentioned: OpenAI → https://openai.com Anthropic (Claude) → https://www.anthropic.com Huawei → https://www.huawei.com DeepSeek → https://www.deepseek.com Kimi K2 → https://www.moonshot.cn Alpha School → https://alpha.school Empire of AI by Karen Hao → https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780593657508/empireofai Work with Jason → jason@mycitizen.ai LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jason-grant-padgett/ X: https://x.com/NoCodeCAIO Newsletters (No Code CAIO) → https://www.linkedin.com/build-relation/newsletter-follow?entityUrn=7399599285849346048 (School's Out Notes from the Field) schoolsout.agipodcast.ai/field-notes-issue-1 Available for interviews and keynotes on AI in education → jason@mycitizen.ai School's Out Saturdays → https://schoolsout.agipodcast.ai/ AGI Podcast shows: School's Out Saturdays: AI in education, K-12 through university Weekly Blitz: AI news every Monday, 30-45 minutes The Vibe: Deep conversations, no time limit Website: schoolsout.agipodcast.ai/network Follow: Facebook + LinkedIn @AGIPodcast | Instagram @AGISchoolsout | X @NoCodeCAIO Tools Jason recommends: MindStudio → https://get.mindstudio.ai/q7n7u5cttkdq Riverside.fm → https://riverside.sjv.io/e1xyBr Wispr Flow → https://ref.wisprflow.ai/jason-padgett

    36 min

  3. 1D AGO

    AI Won't Take Your Job If You Use It Like This

    A graphic designer who uses AI every single day sits down with Jason to explain what that actually looks like – including why AI-generated logos can't be copyrighted and why ChatGPT will never give you the same output twice. Key topics covered: Using AI as a daily marketing and design tool: brain dumps, prompting strategy, and how to iterate fast Why AI-generated logos create a copyright problem most clients don't see coming The branding limitations of generative AI: fonts it can't name, colors that don't transfer, and outputs that all look the same When should kids learn AI? Lauren changes her own answer mid-conversation AI bias explained at third-grade level: the "why did it keep hiring Jane?" example Failing fast with AI to get to the real solution faster The point guard mentality and why treating AI like a teammate beats being afraid of it Lauren Dickerson is a working designer, not a tech person, and her perspective on what AI can and can't do for creative work is one of the most grounded takes you'll hear on the subject. About Lauren Dickerson: CEO and founder of Edit Me Lo Creative Agency, Indianapolis, IN. Visual identity designer, brand strategist, and creative director. Miami University graduate (Interactive Media Studies, 2020), former Division I basketball player at Miami of Ohio. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurendickerson13/ Website: https://editmelo.com/ Resources mentioned: ChatGPT → https://chatgpt.com/ | Claude → https://claude.ai/ | NotebookLM → https://notebooklm.google.com/ | Canva → https://www.canva.com/ Work with Jason → jason@mycitizen.ai LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jason-grant-padgett/ X: https://x.com/NoCodeCAIO Newsletter (No Code CAIO) → https://www.linkedin.com/build-relation/newsletter-follow?entityUrn=7399599285849346048 Available for interviews and keynotes on AI in education → jason@mycitizen.ai School's Out Saturdays → https://schoolsout.agipodcast.ai/ We're listing AI in education events around Indiana on the site. AGI Podcast shows: School's Out Saturdays: AI in education, K-12 through university Weekly Blitz: AI news every Monday, 30-45 minutes The Vibe: Deep conversations, no time limit All platforms: https://linktr.ee/AGIPodcast Follow: Facebook + LinkedIn @AGIPodcast | Instagram @AGISchoolsout | X @NoCodeCAIO Tools Jason recommends: MindStudio → https://get.mindstudio.ai/q7n7u5cttkdq Riverside.fm → https://riverside.sjv.io/e1xyBr Wispr Flow → https://ref.wisprflow.ai/jason-padgett

    1h 5m
  4. Alpha School: Kids Learn 2X Faster in 2 Hours a Day

    3D AGO

    Alpha School: Kids Learn 2X Faster in 2 Hours a Day

    Alpha School says its students finish core academics in two hours a day and score in the top 1% nationally on MAP tests. This episode gets into how that actually works. Jason and co-host Ronda Swartz (assistant principal, nearly 30 years in Catholic K-12 education) sit down with Sofia Swanson, Head of Partnerships at Alpha School, to walk through the 2 Hour Learning model from the beginning. MacKenzie Price founded the school in Austin in 2014 after her daughters started coming home disengaged from kindergarten. What grew from 16 kids meeting in someone's home is now expanding to about 25 campuses nationwide, with hundreds more families on waitlists to bring the model to their city. Key topics covered: - How the 2 Hour Learning model works: AI-personalized academics in the morning, life skills workshops every afternoon - MAP testing results: Alpha reports top 1% nationally and 2.5x faster growth vs. peers - The selection bias question: does this only work because of wealthy, motivated families? - Five life skill categories Alpha teaches at every grade level: teamwork, storytelling, entrepreneurship, relationship building, grit - How to bring Alpha to your city: the 25 founding families model - Whether this model can reach lower-income communities (and what principal Joe Liemandt says about a billion-kid goal) If you're in Indiana and interested in bringing Alpha to the area, Jason and Ronda want to connect you with other families. Reach out at jason@mycitizen.ai. About Sofia Swanson: Head of Partnerships, Alpha School LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sofiaswanson/ Alpha School: https://alpha.school/ Bring Alpha to Your City: https://alpha.school/bring-alpha-to-your-city/ About Ronda Swartz: Assistant Principal, Catholic High School, Indianapolis. Nearly 30 years in K-12 education, 18 years in Catholic school leadership. Currently implementing School AI and exploring Gemini. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rondaswartz3177272065/ Resources mentioned: Alpha School → https://alpha.school/ Bring Alpha to Your City → https://alpha.school/bring-alpha-to-your-city/ Alpha School events → https://alpha.school/upcoming-events/ School AI → https://schoolai.com Magic School → https://www.magicschool.ai/ NWEA MAP Testing → https://www.nwea.org/assessments/map-growth/ Work with Jason → jason@mycitizen.ai | Director of Growth & Partnerships, CitizenAI LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jason-grant-padgett/ X: https://x.com/NoCodeCAIO Available for interviews and keynotes on AI in education → jason@mycitizen.ai School's Out Saturdays → https://schoolsout.agipodcast.ai/ Indiana AI in Education events (including AI Education Symposium, May 12) → https://schoolsout.agipodcast.ai/events AGI Podcast shows: School's Out Saturdays: AI in education, K-12 through university Weekly Blitz: AI news every Monday, 30-45 minutes The Vibe: Deep conversations, no time limit All platforms: https://linktr.ee/AGIPodcast Follow: Facebook + LinkedIn @AGIPodcast | Instagram @AGISchoolsout | X @NoCodeCAIO Tools Jason recommends: MindStudio → https://get.mindstudio.ai/q7n7u5cttkdq Riverside.fm → https://riverside.sjv.io/e1xyBr Wispr Flow → https://ref.wisprflow.ai/jason-padgett

    1h 3m
  5. I Built a HubSpot CRM in My Browser Using Claude

    APR 27

    I Built a HubSpot CRM in My Browser Using Claude

    AI is forcing consulting, law, and web design to abandon hourly billing. Jason Padgett and Julie Koehrer unpack what changes when clients know AI compressed 20 hours of work into 3, and why workers aren't sharing in the productivity gains. Key topics covered: The death of hourly billing in consulting, law, and web design How Claude in Chrome is building an entire HubSpot CRM in Jason's browser in real time ChatGPT image generation 2.0 and the AGI Podcast rebrand at agipodcast.ai Maine Governor Janet Mills vetoing a state AI bill and what it signals The Bernie Sanders question: who shares in AI productivity gains when companies make 5x but salaries stay flat Data centers, energy regulation, and why some states will get left in the Stone Age US nuclear regulation versus China's buildout speed Anthropic's new model and the White House Department of Defense reversal Indiana's tech ecosystem: TechPoint Mira Awards, Mung Chiang at Purdue, Keep Indiana Learning's AI Symposium May 12 Bottom line: AI isn't just changing what work gets done. It's rewriting how work gets priced, who gets paid, and which states are positioned to capture the next decade of growth. About Julie Koehrer: On-Air Personality at Lafayette Q106.7. 15+ years in radio and broadcast. Located in Lafayette, Indiana. Mentioned in this episode: AGI Podcast: https://agipodcast.ai The Capacity Overload Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkwIdRatRCY CitizenAI: https://www.mycitizen.ai/ Cars for Keeps: https://carsforkeeps.org/ GiGi's Playhouse: https://gigisplayhouse.org/indianapolis/about/ TechPoint: https://www.techpoint.org/ Central Indiana Corporate Partnership: https://www.cicpindiana.com/ CIESC: https://ciesc.org/ Keep Indiana Learning AI Symposium: https://keepindianalearning.org/upcoming-events/?_sft_big_topics=ai Colin Stauffer: https://www.linkedin.com/in/colin-stauffer-77411345/ Proxurve Solutions: https://proxurve.com/ Work with Jason: jason@mycitizen.ai Newsletter: https://www.linkedin.com/build-relation/newsletter-follow?entityUrn=7399599285849346048 AGI Podcast shows: School's Out Saturdays: AI in education, K-12 through university Weekly Blitz: AI news every Monday, 30-45 minutes Data Bytes: Data literacy for business owners The Vibe: Deep conversations, no time limit All platforms: https://linktr.ee/AGIPodcast Follow: Facebook + LinkedIn @AGIPodcast | Instagram @AGISchoolsout | X @NoCodeCAIO Tools Jason recommends: MindStudio: https://get.mindstudio.ai/q7n7u5cttkdq Riverside.fm: https://riverside.sjv.io/e1xyBr Wispr Flow: https://ref.wisprflow.ai/jason-padgett

    35 min
  6. Why Only 23% of Americans Support AI in 2026

    APR 20

    Why Only 23% of Americans Support AI in 2026

    Only 23% of Americans have a positive view of AI in 2026, about the same approval rating as ICE. Jason Padgett and Julie Koehrer dig into why the gap between foundation-model leaders and the public is widening, and why Jason argues the fix isn't UBI, it's equity. Key topics covered:- The April 6 shooting of Indiana Councilman Ron Gibson's house (13 rounds, "No Data Centers" note) and the Molotov cocktail at Sam Altman's home on April 10- Why Sam Altman's "philosopher kings" narrative and Dario Amodei's 50% white-collar job loss warnings are making the backlash worse- How Demis Hassabis and AlphaFold prove drug discovery was the smarter first move for AI- Maine's data center moratorium vs. New Hampshire's "compute free or die" constitutional proposal- Why Trump's $1,000 newborn S&P 500 account is a model for AI profit-sharing- The buy-in vs. UBI argument: Americans want equity in the systems they help train- The Enhanced Games in Vegas on Memorial Day, Pascal's Wager applied to longevity, and whether you'd upload your consciousness- Brain-computer interfaces, space colonization, and the solar punk movementBottom line: AI's PR problem isn't about the technology. It's about who owns the upside. About Julie Koehrer: On-Air Personality at Lafayette Q106.7 | 15+ years in radio and broadcast | Lafayette, Indiana | https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliekoehrer/ Work with Jason → jason@mycitizen.ai🌐 https://www.phoenixsolutionsgroup.org/Newsletter → https://www.linkedin.com/build-relation/newsletter-follow?entityUrn=7399599285849346048 AGI Podcast shows:School's Out Saturdays: AI in education, K-12 through universityWeekly Blitz: AI news every Monday, 30-45 minutesThe Vibe: Deep conversations, no time limitAll platforms: https://linktr.ee/AGIPodcastFollow: Facebook + LinkedIn @AGIPodcast | Instagram @AGISchoolsout | X @NoCodeCAIO Tools Jason recommends:MindStudio → https://get.mindstudio.ai/q7n7u5cttkdqRiverside.fm → https://riverside.sjv.io/e1xyBrWispr Flow → https://ref.wisprflow.ai/jason-padgett

    31 min
  7. Grade the Prompt, Not Just the Paper: AI in College Classrooms

    APR 18

    Grade the Prompt, Not Just the Paper: AI in College Classrooms

    What if professors started grading the AI prompt instead of just the final paper? Mark Lowe, Program Chair for Entrepreneurship at Ivy Tech Community College in Lafayette, Indiana, is testing exactly that next semester. Jason Padgett sits down with Mark, a psychology professor and 10-year educator, to talk about what AI in college classrooms actually looks like when the goal is learning, not policing.Key topics covered:Grade the prompt, not just the paper: Mark's new policy for next semester at Ivy TechEbbinghaus forgetting curve: why 80% of what students learn is gone within 70 minutes without sleep, recall testing, and teaching it to someone elseWhy "AI is ruining students" is usually a teaching problem, not a technology problemThe venture development paradox: when research becomes procrastination in disguiseOnly 41% of college faculty had AI training as of 2025 (and why that gap is widening)Why higher ed curriculum is structurally 5 years behind emerging technologyUsing Claude as a debate partner instead of a homework machineData literacy as the number one skill parents should push on high schoolers right nowBottom line: the cheaters will cheat and the lazy will be lazy. AI just makes that harder to hide, and it hands serious students a tutor their professors can't match.About Mark Lowe: Program Chair for Entrepreneurship at Ivy Tech Community College, Lafayette Indiana. Psychology professor, former business consultant, master's in psychology from Indiana State University. Helped launch roughly 30 businesses from the Ivy Tech entrepreneurship program in three years.Connect with Mark:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-lowe-1b359269/Ivy Tech Entrepreneurship: https://www.ivytech.edu/programs/all-academic-programs/garatoni-school-of-entrepreneurship-innovation/entrepreneurship/Ivy Tech Lafayette: https://www.ivytech.edu/locations/lafayette/Work with Jason → jason@mycitizen.ai🌐 https://www.phoenixsolutionsgroup.org/Newsletter → https://www.linkedin.com/build-relation/newsletter-follow?entityUrn=7399599285849346048AI Launchpad → https://www.skool.com/signup?ref=025b0ccdd6374664a2aab5df527ab2f5AGI Podcast shows:School's Out Saturdays: AI in education, K-12 through universityWeekly Blitz: AI news every Monday, 30-45 minutesData Bytes: Data literacy for business ownersThe Vibe: Deep conversations, no time limitAll platforms: https://linktr.ee/AGIPodcastFollow: Facebook + LinkedIn @AGIPodcast | Instagram @AGISchoolsout | X @NoCodeCAIOTools Jason recommends: MindStudio → https://get.mindstudio.ai/q7n7u5cttkdq Riverside.fm → https://riverside.sjv.io/e1xyBr Wispr Flow → https://ref.wisprflow.ai/jason-padgett

    1h 3m
  8. Is Anthropic's Claude Mythos Actually Dangerous? A COO Breaks It Down

    APR 13

    Is Anthropic's Claude Mythos Actually Dangerous? A COO Breaks It Down

    Claude Mythos dropped with warnings about breaking 50-year-old encryption and being too dangerous for public release. CitizenAI COO Oliver Belanger says it's something else entirely: one of the most well-targeted enterprise sales campaigns the AI industry has ever run. Key topics covered: Why AI companies use fear to drive consumer attention and investor funding The Anthropic vs. OpenAI business philosophy divide: lead bullets vs. silver bullets Token maxing: why measuring AI productivity by token spend is this generation's lines-of-code mistake The Sam Altman leadership profile and the Eddie Haskell comparison What Mythos is actually selling and who the real target audience is (hint: 15 hyperscalers, not you) Demis Hassabis, Jensen Huang, and what aligned incentives actually look like at the CEO level Bottom line: Mythos is not the end of the world. It's a targeted pitch to the largest tech companies on earth, wrapped in just enough danger to make the press do the marketing for free. About Oliver Belanger: Chief Operating Officer, CitizenAI. CitizenAI connects individuals to community resources, food pantries, federal programs, and workforce development services. Oliver co-hosts Capacity Overload: AI for Social Work with Jason Padgett. oliver@mycitizen.ai | https://www.linkedin.com/in/oliverbelanger/ Capacity Overload: AI for Social Work YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkwIdRatRCY Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0mXcfpxy0al2vlg3Tteg7M Work with Jason → jason@mycitizen.ai LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/jason-grant-padgett/ Newsletter → https://www.linkedin.com/build-relation/newsletter-follow?entityUrn=7399599285849346048 AGI Podcast shows: School's Out Saturdays: AI in education, K-12 through university Weekly Blitz: AI news every Monday, 30-45 minutes Data Bytes: Data literacy for business owners The Vibe: Deep conversations, no time limit All platforms: https://linktr.ee/AGIPodcast Follow: Facebook + LinkedIn @AGIPodcast | Instagram @AGISchoolsout | X @NoCodeCAIO Tools Jason recommends: MindStudio → https://get.mindstudio.ai/q7n7u5cttkdq Riverside.fm → https://riverside.sjv.io/e1xyBr Wispr Flow → https://ref.wisprflow.ai/jason-padgett

    41 min
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AGI Podcast — Advance, Grow, Innovate with AI For people who got stuck making AI work and educators preparing students for what's next. Our mission is to cut through AI hype with practical insights for workforce development, education, and small to medium businesses → where AI implementation happens in the trenches, not the headlines. 3 shows, 1 mission: *Saturdays: School's Out - Educators and students preparing for an AI-driven future schoolsout.agipodcast.ai/ Mondays: The Weekly Blitz - AI news recaps with cohost Julie Koehrer Monthly: The Vibe - Long-form deep dive conversations

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