What does it take to become a leader worth following? In this episode, we welcome Randy Hain, founder of Serviam Partners, co-founder of Leadership Foundry, executive coach, speaker, and author of 13 award-winning books. Drawing on more than three decades of experience in senior leadership, executive search, and talent development, Randy shares insights gained from coaching leaders at some of the world's most respected organizations. Here is a question most career plans never ask: what will people say about you when you are gone? If "they had a great career" is the best line you can come up with, this episode is for you. On IEEE Women in Engineering's WIE Rise Together podcast, host LaRhonda Julien sits down with executive coach and author Randy Hain to explore what it really takes to lead well and live well at the same time. After more than 30 years in senior leadership, corporate talent, and executive search, Randy argues that great leaders are shaped by experience, adversity, and service, not by title. Here is what we get into: Are leaders born or made? Randy is firmly in the "made" camp. He explains how family, friendships, setbacks, and even success shape the leaders we admire, and why coaching begins with sincere curiosity, careful listening, and the question: have you achieved the success you actually want? Does everyone want the C suite? Not necessarily. Randy shares why ambition often appears in your 30s or 40s, and why he walked away from that path in his early 30s while working directly under the president of a $5 billion restaurant company. He tells us why he admires people who choose to be great partners, parents, and community members alongside a great career. Welcome to the fourth quarter. Randy turned 60 just days before this conversation, and he sees this stage as more exciting than ever. We talk about why waiting for retirement to start living makes little sense, and why the real question is whether you are living to work or working to live. When the ground shifts. COVID tested how leaders care for their people. AI is testing something harder. Randy talks about the weight of cutting jobs, the pressure of doing more with less, and how his own son pivoted from marketing to human resources as entry level roles disappear. Candor, vulnerability, and a new kind of mentorship. Randy calls vulnerability a forgotten leadership superpower, and explains why making it safe to give honest feedback matters so much. He also previews his latest book, A Different Take, with 26 five minute chapters, and his next project, which asks mentors to step down from the mountaintop and learn from their mentees too. Résumé virtue versus eulogy virtue. Borrowing an idea from David Brooks, Randy explains what he teaches his students at Samford University: the skills that build a career are not always the ones that build a life people remember. Press play for a warm, candid conversation on leading with curiosity, speaking with honesty, and building a life that is as full as your résumé.