Innotainment Podcast

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A business podcast for brilliant-but-overthinking founders. Join systems strategist Aga Gajownik (Innovation & Integration) and podcast strategist Rhianne Lovell-Boland (More Talk Media) as they unpack the Business Model Canvas with ADHD-friendly strategies, honest conversations and systems that work with your brain, not against it!

  1. Are we outsourcing our thinking? AI, Anxiety, ADHD and Mental Load chat w/ Karyen Chai

    MAY 14

    Are we outsourcing our thinking? AI, Anxiety, ADHD and Mental Load chat w/ Karyen Chai

    In this bonus episode, Aga Gajownik is joined by Karyen Chai, psychologist, lecturer and PhD candidate researching ADHD and sleep, for a conversation that sits underneath all the noise about tools and productivity. Because what's rarely being asked is what rapid AI change is actually doing to us: to our thinking, our sense of value, our emotional regulation and our identity as professionals. Karyen brings a uniquely grounded perspective as someone who teaches students, sits with therapy clients and works inside organisations navigating AI transformation, all at once. Together, they explore what happens when people stop trusting their own thinking, why AI anxiety is less about the technology and more about identity, and how to figure out when AI is genuinely helping versus quietly accelerating the overwhelm.   Topics include: Why students and professionals are losing trust in their own thinking, and what that means long term AI as supplement versus AI as outsourcing, and how to know the difference The double stress: AI raises expectations and creates more cleanup work at the same time How ADHD brains and AI interact, and why the combination can accelerate overwhelm What good thinking actually looks like in an AI-supported environment The one mindset shift that makes navigating all of this easier Digital minimalism, the analogue comeback and why Gen Z might be onto something This episode is especially relevant for leaders and managers trying to support teams through AI-driven change without burning people out, neurodivergent professionals whose brains interact with AI tools in ways that are not always helpful, anyone feeling the quiet anxiety of not keeping up, and students, educators and knowledge workers rethinking what their value actually is in an AI world. This is Season 2 of the Innotainment Podcast, now continuing as Brain Friendly Systems with Aga Gajownik. Links mentioned in this episode: Karyen Chai — Psychologist, Lecturer and PhD Candidate Innotainment podcast⁠ – ⁠Q&A / Office Hours Submission Form⁠ : Submit questions for future episodes Follow Innotainment Podcast and Aga Gajownik on Instagram⁠@innotainment_podcast,⁠  ⁠@myquirkyadhdbrain

    31 min
  2. Cutting through the AI noise : What's real, what's hype and what leaders should do next w/ Victoria Wymark

    MAY 4

    Cutting through the AI noise : What's real, what's hype and what leaders should do next w/ Victoria Wymark

    In this bonus episode of Innotainment, Aga Gajownik is joined by Victoria Wymark, AI and Data Transformation Director, to slow down and have an honest conversation about what AI transformation actually looks like on the ground for organisations, and the humans living through it.   A conversation that asks what we actually want from all of this, going beyond hype and whether we're designing for that.   Topics include: - Why some organisations are treating AI as a solution without looking for a problem - The real reasons AI proof of concepts fail: data, governance and people adoption - Why AI transformation is 99% a human shift, not a technology rollout - The quiet anxiety and  cognitive overload building underneath the hype - What leaders should actually be doing   This episode is especially relevant for: - Leaders and managers navigating AI adoption in their organisations - Neurodivergent professionals feeling the cognitive overload of constant change - Anyone who wants a grounded, human-first perspective on what's really happening with AI right now   🔗 Links mentioned in this episode ⁠Victoria Wymark – AI and Data Transformation Director⁠  ⁠State of AI in business 2025 ⁠ ⁠Claude Mythos & Project Glasswing⁠ - A more critical lens  ⁠Anthropic's Project Glasswing⁠ - Straight from the source  ⁠⁠⁠⁠Innotainment podcast⁠⁠ –⁠ ⁠Q&A / Office Hours Submission Form⁠⁠ : Submit questions for future episodes Follow Innotainment Podcast and Aga Gajownik on Instagram⁠ ⁠@innotainment_podcast,⁠⁠ ⁠ ⁠@myquirkyadhdbrain⁠

    43 min
  3. The Internship Wars: What Gen Z Really Wants from Work w/ Hazel Hua

    APR 16

    The Internship Wars: What Gen Z Really Wants from Work w/ Hazel Hua

    In this episode of Innotainment, Aga Gajownik sits down with Hazel Hua, a recent graduate, community builder and multi hyphenate young professional to explore what the job market actually looks like from the candidate's side.   Following the inclusive hiring conversation with Cara Norkett, Aga wanted to hear from someone living the experience right now. Hazel brings a sharp, honest perspective on what it takes to break into the workforce in 2025: the internship wars, the AI shaped landscape, the five round interview gauntlets and the deeper questions that ambitious young professionals are asking themselves before they even apply.   Together, they unpack the gap between what organisations think motivates young talent and what actually keeps them engaged, why the prefrontal cortex matters more than most managers realise, and what both sides of the hiring table can do to make early careers less of a survival sport and more of a genuine starting point.   Topics include: The "internship wars" why graduates are racking up five or six internships just to stay competitive How AI is eliminating entry level roles and creating a ‘catch 22’ loop for young job seekers What Gen Z actually looks for in a role beyond salary The neuroscience of the early twenties, where the brain is still developing and what that means for careers Neuroplasticity, the Odyssey years and why your twenties are for building paths, not finding the perfect one What organisations get wrong about motivating young talent One piece of advice from each side of the table   This episode is especially relevant for: Early career professionals navigating a competitive and fast-changing job market Managers and leaders working with Gen Z colleagues and graduates Founders and HR professionals designing graduate programmes or early career pathways Anyone interested in brain-friendly approaches to talent development and retention 🔗 Links mentioned in this episode Hazel Hua – LinkedIn Singapore Health Connect – Community for healthcare, biotech and medtech professionals in Singapore ⁠Innotainment podcast⁠ – ⁠Q&A / Office Hours Submission Form⁠ : Submit questions for future episodes Follow Innotainment Podcast and Aga Gajownik on Instagram ⁠@innotainment_podcast,⁠  ⁠@myquirkyadhdbrain

    33 min
  4. Episode 30 – S2 Episode 10 | You Don't Look Autistic: Working With Neurodivergent Colleagues

    APR 2

    Episode 30 – S2 Episode 10 | You Don't Look Autistic: Working With Neurodivergent Colleagues

    In this episode of Innotainment, Aga Gajownik gets personal about what it means to be autistic in a world that didn't expect it, and what that reveals about how we work with, support and design for neurodivergent colleagues.   Drawing on over a decade of working with neurodivergent brains, her own late-identified autism, and emerging research that challenges how we understand neurodivergence altogether, Aga unpacks why labels are not strategies, why masking comes at a real cost, and why curiosity is the most underrated leadership skill in any brain-friendly workplace.   This conversation goes beyond awareness and offers a practical starting point for anyone who wants to move from knowing that neurodivergent colleagues exist in their team to actually doing something useful about it  without defaulting to assumptions, checklists or one-size-fits-all approaches.   Topics include: Why "you don't look autistic" says more about our assumptions than about the person in front of us The real cost of masking and why high-functioning people are often the least supported. New research from Nature on why autism doesn't follow one fixed pattern across different people Why labels give us context but not strategy and what to do instead Practical brain-friendly adjustments any team can experiment with immediately How retrospectives, structured agendas and flexible check-ins create workplaces that work for everyone What Autism Acceptance Day actually asks of us, beyond awareness.   This episode is especially relevant for: Leaders and managers with neurodivergent people in their teams HR professionals and people leaders designing more inclusive workplaces Neurodivergent founders and professionals who have been told they don't "look" like their diagnosis Anyone who has ever masked at work and felt the weight of it   🔗 Links mentioned in this episode Aga Gajownik – Certified ADHD Practitioner and founder of Innovation Integration Polygenic and developmental profiles of autism differ by age at diagnosis - Nature.com ⁠Innotainment podcast⁠ – ⁠Q&A / Office Hours Submission Form⁠ : Submit questions for future episodes Follow Innotainment Podcast and Aga Gajownik on Instagram ⁠@innotainment_podcast,⁠  ⁠@myquirkyadhdbrain

    11 min
  5. Episode 29 – S2E9 | From Tech Expert to CTO - How to Grow Without Burning Out w/ Andy Skipper

    MAR 24

    Episode 29 – S2E9 | From Tech Expert to CTO - How to Grow Without Burning Out w/ Andy Skipper

    In this episode of Innotainment, Aga Gajownik sits down with Andy Skipper, founder of CTO Craft, to explore one of the most common and least discussed transitions in tech: what happens when your best engineer becomes a leader and nobody prepares them for it.   Andy brings a grounded, practitioner perspective built from his own experience as a first-time CTO and years of coaching senior technology leaders around the world. Together, they unpack why the skills that make someone brilliant at building things are often the very skills that trip them up when they step into leadership, how ego and identity shape the transition, and why leading in isolation is one of the fastest paths to burnout.   From rethinking what it means to manage highly intelligent, autonomous people to finding the right balance between technical depth and commercial awareness, this episode challenges the default assumption that great engineers make great leaders and asks a bigger question: what does it actually take to grow well?   Discover:  💡 Why the move from individual contributor to CTO is one of the most under-supported transitions in tech  🧠 The identity and ego shifts that come with seniority — and how to navigate them without burning out  🤝 Stakeholder management, commercial awareness and translation skills that no one teaches you  👥 How to lead highly autonomous, highly intelligent people without micromanaging or losing yourself  ⚡ The difference between leading and managing — and why you can do one without the other  🌍 Why isolation accelerates burnout and what finding your tribe actually looks like   Whether you're a CTO, a founder building a tech team, or a leader who got promoted without a roadmap and is figuring it out as they go, this episode offers honest, experience-led insight into growing as a leader without losing yourself in the process.   🔗 Links mentioned in this episode Andy Skipper – Founder of CTO Craft (LinkedIn) CTO Craft – Community, events and resources for senior technology leaders ⁠Innotainment podcast⁠ – ⁠Q&A / Office Hours Submission Form⁠ : Submit questions for future episodes Follow Innotainment Podcast and Aga Gajownik on Instagram ⁠@innotainment_podcast,⁠  ⁠@myquirkyadhdbrain

    43 min
  6. Episode 28 – S2E8: Inclusive Hiring in the Age of AI w/ Cara Norkett

    MAR 17

    Episode 28 – S2E8: Inclusive Hiring in the Age of AI w/ Cara Norkett

    In this episode of Innotainment, Aga Gajownik sits down with Cara Norkett, Talent Acquisition, Diversity & Inclusion Lead at Charles Taylor, to explore what inclusive hiring really looks like in today’s AI-influenced recruitment landscape.   Cara brings a grounded, practitioner perspective from inside medium-sized global organisations navigating talent shortages, generational shifts and rising expectations around flexibility and inclusion. Together, they unpack where bias still hides in recruitment processes, why “culture fit” may be holding teams back, and how small, practical adjustments can create hiring experiences that are more brain-friendly and more human.   From adapting interview formats to rethinking how we assess energy, enthusiasm and “fit,” this episode challenges traditional recruitment norms and asks a bigger question: if we say we value diversity, does our hiring process reflect it?   Discover: 💬 How structured, skills-based assessment reduces bias without losing the human element 🌍 Why candidates care more about lived experience than polished employer branding 🤝 Practical, cost-free interview adjustments that support neurodivergent and disabled candidates 📊 How inclusive hiring connects directly to creativity, innovation and business performance ⚖️ Why recruitment teams must be diversity advocates   Whether you’re a hiring manager, HR leader, founder or building your first team, this episode offers practical, real-world insight into designing recruitment processes that are fair, sustainable and aligned with the inclusive culture you claim to represent.   🔗 Links mentioned in this episode Cara Norkett, Talent Acquisition, Diversity & Inclusion Lead at Charles Taylor ⁠Innotainment podcast⁠ – ⁠Q&A / Office Hours Submission Form⁠ : Submit questions for future episodes Follow Innotainment Podcast and Aga Gajownik on Instagram ⁠@innotainment_podcast,⁠  ⁠@myquirkyadhdbrain

    47 min
  7. Episode 27 – Bonus | Returning to Work After Baby — Why “Mum Brain” Isn’t a Weakness, It’s a Shift w/ Pei Ying Chua

    MAR 10

    Episode 27 – Bonus | Returning to Work After Baby — Why “Mum Brain” Isn’t a Weakness, It’s a Shift w/ Pei Ying Chua

    In this episode of Innotainment, Aga Gajownik is joined by Pei Ying Chua – Head Economist @ LinkedIn APAC to explore what really happens cognitively, emotionally, and logistically when mothers return to work.   Together, they unpack what is often left unnamed in professional settings: brain fog during breastfeeding, dopamine suppression, shifting identity, cognitive overload, and the invisible emotional labour of balancing caregiving with performance.   This conversation goes beyond productivity. It looks at the neurobiology of postpartum changes, the cognitive cost of constant micro-decisions, and what brain-friendly organisations can do to support sustainable performance for working parents.   Topics include: • The neurological impact of breastfeeding on dopamine and focus • Why “mum brain” is physiological, not incompetence • Cognitive load, decision fatigue, and emotional labour • Performance before vs. after becoming a parent • Flexibility beyond location — workload pacing and quarterly structuring • Why empathy is a core management skill • Sustainable performance vs. overperforming at 150% • Using AI to reduce mental logistics and cognitive strain • Protecting focus time and reducing unnecessary micro-decisions • The identity shift of returning as a “new version” of yourself   This episode is especially relevant for: Mothers returning to work after maternity leave Managers supporting new parents HR leaders designing flexible policies Organisations focused on retention of female talent Anyone interested in brain-friendly workplaces and sustainable performance 🔗 Links mentioned in this episode Pei Ying Chua – Head Economist @ LinkedIn APAC Innotainment podcast – Q&A / Office Hours Submission Form: Submit questions for future episodes Follow Innotainment Podcast and Aga Gajownik on Instagram @innotainment_podcast, @myquirkyadhdbrain

    28 min
  8. Episode 26 – S2 E7 | AuDHD in Women — Are they really fine, or just masking at work? w/ Samantha Hiew

    FEB 3

    Episode 26 – S2 E7 | AuDHD in Women — Are they really fine, or just masking at work? w/ Samantha Hiew

    In this episode of Innotainment, ⁠Aga Gajownik⁠ is joined by ⁠Dr Samantha Hiew⁠ - scientist, storyteller, and founder of ADHD Girls - to explore ADHD and Autism in women through the lenses of neuroscience, hormones, trauma, and workplace systems.   Together, they unpack what is often misunderstood or left unnamed: the cost of long-term masking, performance variability, nervous system overload, and why so many high-performing neurodivergent women burn out despite appearing “fine” on the surface.   This conversation goes beyond awareness. It looks at what is actually happening cognitively, neurologically, and psychologically in neurodivergent women, and what leaders can do to design genuinely brain-friendly organisations that support sustainable performance.   Topics include: Why masking and self-regulation are so energetically expensive Executive functioning, performance variability, and hormonal cycles Trauma, nervous system responses, and their impact on work and relationships Psychological safety, micromanagement, and cognitive load Energy-based productivity and regenerative leadership Practical, low-cost changes leaders can implement immediately   This episode is especially relevant for: AuDHD and neurodivergent women navigating work and leadership Managers and HR leaders who want inclusion to actually work Anyone interested in brain-friendly organisations and sustainable performance   Note: This episode includes reflective discussion of abusive relationships and trauma, explored in a professional and educational context.   🔗 Links mentioned in this episode ⁠Dr Samantha Hiew ⁠– Tip of the iceberg, Autism and ADHD in Women: DSM-5 Criteria via Scientific & Intersectional Lens ⁠ADHD Girls⁠ – Social impact organisation supporting neurodivergent women in healthcare, education, and workplaces ⁠Innotainment podcast⁠ – ⁠Q&A / Office Hours Submission Form⁠ : Submit questions for future episodes Follow Innotainment Podcast and Aga Gajownik on Instagram ⁠@innotainment_podcast,⁠  ⁠@myquirkyadhdbrain

    48 min

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A business podcast for brilliant-but-overthinking founders. Join systems strategist Aga Gajownik (Innovation & Integration) and podcast strategist Rhianne Lovell-Boland (More Talk Media) as they unpack the Business Model Canvas with ADHD-friendly strategies, honest conversations and systems that work with your brain, not against it!