Her Next Move With Heather & Lucy

Her Next Move With Heather and Lucy

How often do we share what’s coming next? As leaders, we often talk about our past achievements - what we’ve done to get where we are today. It can almost feel risky opening up about plans- what if it doesn’t work, or someone else gets there first? Yet, there’s incredible power in sharing what’s ahead. So we’re skipping the usual success stories and focusing on what’s next. The risks, the big ideas, and the game-changing moves female founders and leaders are making . Join us and our incredible guests to find out what's next. Get ready to be inspired.

  1. 4d ago

    Episode 6: Sian Louise talks Creating OBVS of Necessity, Finding the Science in Nature, Setting Products on Fire and Why Staying True to Your Values Matters...

    TW: Some of the topics discussed in this episode may cause distress, please listen with caution and take care.  We're closing the season with a firestarter - not just in the beauty industry, but quite literally! Meet Sian Louise, founder of OBVS Skincare, Come Dine With Me winner (you can find Sian's Come Dine With Me Episode here: https://www.channel4.com/programmes/come-dine-with-me/on-demand/61824-019) and self-proclaimed scientific hippy! Sian's journey into entrepreneurship began with some of life's most difficult challenges. From heartbreak and life-changing experiences to discovering her calling, she turned personal adversity into an opportunity to build something of her own. But, as she discovered, starting a business isn't a substitute for therapy! In this episode, we talk about finding purpose in the unexpected, overcoming imposter syndrome and having the courage to turn your knowledge, values and beliefs into a brand that challenges the status quo. Sian describes herself as a scientific hippy, and we explore what that means in practice: balancing science and nature, educating customers without scaremongering, and helping people make informed skincare choices without judgement. We get into why she believes the beauty industry needs to do better, what happens when you start calling out the big brands, and the sacrifices that come with putting your principles before profit - including setting products on fire and attracting threats of legal action! But building a brand around your values also means knowing when to pivot. We discuss the big decisions behind OBVS Skincare, including packaging, staying true to your mission when things get difficult, and why sometimes the biggest opportunities come from being willing to rethink your approach. Sian also shares her plans for the next stage of the business, from investment and scaling up to meeting demand from major retailers such as Superdrug. We get into what the right investor can bring beyond money, what makes an entrepreneur investable, and the advice Sian needs to take OBVS Skincare to the next level without compromising what makes it different. Plus, could Factor 49 sunscreen be the next big thing?In true season-finale style, we set aside our quick fire questions and finish with a skincare myth-busting session with Sian that leaves our jaws on the floor, challenging everything we thought we knew about skincare and the beauty industry! And, of course, we want to hear from you! As we wrap up this season, we'd love to know: who do you want us to have on next season? Which founders, entrepreneurs, industry disruptors or inspiring voices should we be speaking to? Let us know who you'd love to hear from and what you'd want us to ask them. To find out more about Sian and OBVS Skincare, click below: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sian-louise-obvs/ https://obvs-skincare.co.uk/products/cleanser-vitamin-boost?srsltid=AfmBOoqakTP7byIgCchSgbDfegix_Juj8KIvQ4TNn_VQZv3xcxPJpWZy&variant=41907472924863 https://www.instagram.com/obvs_skincare/ https://www.tiktok.com/@obvs_skincare Don't forget to like and subscribe so you don't miss a minute - and we'll see you next season!

  2. Oct 29

    Episode 5: Mari-Carmen talks Big Pivots, Securing Major Investment, Creating the Support Mothers Deserve and the Reality of Entrepreneurship...

    What happens when you see a problem that affects mothers every day, realise the support they need simply isn't there, and decide to do something about it? Meet Mari-Carmen, mother of three, former paediatric intensive care nurse, founder of FIT MAMA and Mari Carmen Fitness, and the entrepreneur behind Matresa, a personalised digital maternal health pathway designed to support women from their first trimester of pregnancy through to their child's second birthday and beyond. Built from a place of passion, professional experience and a desire for change, Matresa was born out of seeing first-hand how women are being failed throughout their maternity journeys. But turning that experience into a solution hasn't been a straightforward journey. In this episode, we talk to Mari-Carmen about the choices mothers are forced to make, the conflict between motherhood and ambition, and how her experiences as both a mother and a nurse inspired her to build something different. We explore why maternal health needs to be viewed holistically, connecting women's health, home and work, and how the right support can help mothers advocate for themselves and navigate a system that too often leaves them to figure things out alone. But having a great idea is only the beginning. Mari-Carmen shares the realities of building apps, why simply creating something doesn't mean people will find it, and why being willing to pivot, rethink your approach and keep searching for the right solution is essential when building a business. We get into finding the right marketing partner, why marketing is about so much more than social media, and how strong branding can help build a community around a shared mission. We also talk about the sacrifices that come with building a business while raising children, working in front of your kids, flexible working and what needs to change to help more women return to work without the guilt or shame that so often comes with balancing motherhood and ambition. As Matresa looks towards America, we explore what it takes to turn a deeply personal mission into something with the potential to make a much wider impact.  And, of course, we ask the question we love most on this podcast: what's next? From recognising where mothers are being let down to having the courage to build something better, Mari-Carmen is proof that the road to entrepreneurship isn't always straightforward. Sometimes, the first idea isn't the final answer. The key is to keep learning, keep adapting and keep looking for the pivot that gets you closer to the solution. And, of course, we want to hear from you. What would you ask Mari-Carmen about building a business from personal experience, navigating motherhood and ambition, or finding the courage to keep going when things don't go to plan? To find out more about Mari-Carmen and Matresa, click below: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matresa/https://www.matresa-app.com/ Don't forget to like and subscribe so you don't miss a minute.

  3. Oct 22

    Episode 5: Ros Simmons talks Empowering Women Over 35, Simplifying Wellness, Rewriting Beauty Marketing and Why People Shouldn't Retire...

    What happens when you reach director level at Virgin by 30, spend a lifetime working in beauty, and then decide to co-found a brand in your 50s? We're about to find out! Meet Ros Simmons, co-founder of Curated Beauty, and living proof that there's no reason to slow down if you don't want to. Alongside her two fellow co-founders, Ros brings a combined 100 years of beauty industry experience, spanning sales, PR, marketing and product development across luxury and global brands. Together, they're on a mission to make skincare, haircare and wellness simpler, more responsible and better suited to women navigating midlife and beyond. But building a brand comes with its own pivots. Ros shares why she went back to learn new skills, why it's never too late to upskill, and how her experience at The Body Shop has shaped her approach to product development and the beauty industry's responsibility to its customers. We get into why women over 35 shouldn't be overlooked, why beauty marketing isn't moving fast enough to recognise their spending power, and how we can normalise ageing while embracing the things that help us feel our best. From expert-led formulations and best-in-class ingredients to simplifying supplements without unnecessary fillers or a cupboard full of products, we explore how Curated Beauty is making wellness more straightforward, including why creatine could be the next big thing. And it's not just about the products. We explore the power of subscriptions, customer loyalty and word of mouth, and how Curated Beauty is building a community through its Curator Programme. From challenging an industry that too often overlooks midlife women to building a brand in her 50s, Ros has no plans to slow down any time soon. She's proof that it's never too late to learn, build something new or do things differently. And, of course, we want to hear from you! What would you ask Ros about starting a business later in life, the beauty industry's approach to women over 35, or the future of beauty and wellness? To find out more about Ros and Curated Beauty, click below: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ros-simmons-96b115a/ https://curatedbeauty.london/?srsltid=AfmBOooIryx1VLxylKFVXi4Wuqk7XU21lpFbVLxLiVEBMJBrJ_29rV7D https://www.instagram.com/curatedbeautylondon/ https://www.tiktok.com/@curatedbeautylondon Don't forget to like and subscribe so you don't miss a minute.

  4. Oct 15

    Episode 3: Elsie Rutterford & Dominika Minarovic talk Building Global Brands, Breast Pumps, Shareholders and Becoming Tired Mums...

    Most female-founded business duos don't make it.But Elsie Rutterford and Dominika Minarovic have built, sold, started again and been through the highs and lows of business together - all while becoming mums (twice over!) along the way.So, how do you build a children's brand, a world-renowned natural beauty brand, a community of working mums, raise investment, sell a business and then figure out what comes next?In this episode, we find out exactly that from Elsie and Dominika.We get into the reality of letting go of something you've built, seeing your brand continue without you, taking those learnings and using them to start again, and their much bigger mission to build a community and ecosystem that actually supports mums.From female founder mentoring to Two Tired Mums, Elsie and Dominika are proof that success doesn't always follow a straight line. We talk about the lessons that come from things not working out, why they have no regrets, and what success means to them now.And, of course, we want to hear from you.What would you ask Elsie and Dominika about building and selling brands, raising investment, motherhood or starting again?To find out more about Elsie Rutterford, Dominika Minarovic and Rayro, click below: https://www.heyrayro.com/pages/our-missionhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/elsie-rutterford-b1226321/https://www.linkedin.com/in/dominika-minarovic-5b1b2611/https://www.instagram.com/heyrayrohttps://www.tiktok.com/@heyrayro Don't forget to like and subscribe so you don't miss a minute.

  5. Oct 8

    Episode 2: Gaia Tonanzi on Outgrowing Jobs, False Starts, Building a Brand & Doubting Your Next Move

    We finally met in person! We’ve been following Gaia’s journey for a while now, and for good reason. From her days at Curlsmith through to her latest success, launching her own curly haircare brand, Tootilab, Gaia’s career has been full of big decisions, pivots, lessons and plenty of obstacles along the way. In this episode, we talk about the realisation that you want to go it alone, what it feels like to outgrow a job, being offered opportunities that don’t quite work out, and how a closed door might just be the best thing that ever happened to you - leading to the birth of a brand that’s close to her heart. From working within the curly haircare industry to building her very own brand, Gaia shares what it’s really like to take that leap and become a founder. Gaia also shares how she’s used her expert knowledge and personal experience as a curly hair girl, alongside social media and personalisation, to build a community of curlies, taking people on the journey and turning an idea into a business. From napkin drawings to where Tootilab is today, we get into what it really takes to build a brand from the ground up - and the constant changes, challenges and self-doubt that can come with becoming a founder. Did Gaia ever have reservations about whether she could really do it? Find out in the episode. And of course we are back with more quick-fire questions, including the all-important question: do you prefer being an employee or an employer? As always, we want to hear from you. What would you ask Gaia about her journey, her next move or building Tootilab? To find out more about Gaia and Tootilab click the links below:  Website: https://www.tootilab.com Social: https://www.instagram.com/tootilab/ LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/gaia-tonanzi Don’t forget to like and subscribe so you don’t miss a minute.

  6. 07/24/2025

    Listen to Episode 5: From Corporate to Conscious - Wendy Martin’s Beauty Industry Wake-Up Call

    Meet Wendy Martin, the founder of Counter Culture, who joins us this week to share her powerful journey from a fast-paced corporate e-commerce career to building one of the UK’s leading sustainable beauty platforms -  all sparked by a deeply personal turning point. What began as a life-changing event became the catalyst for Counter Culture: a curated destination for ethical beauty and wellness brands that put planet, people, and transparency first. Wendy opens up about how grief inspired radical change, and why she’s now on a mission to make sustainability mainstream in beauty. We dive into the rise of purpose-led influencers, the game-changing potential of live shopping, and how Counter Culture is empowering a new generation of conscious consumers and brands. Plus, Wendy shares what’s next for the platform - from deepening partnerships to scaling impact across the UK and beyond. If you're a female founder in beauty, wellness, or any purpose-led space, this episode is filled with insight, resilience, and practical inspiration for building something that truly matters. Explore Counter Culture:Website: https://www.counterculturestore.co.ukInstagram: @counterculturestoreFacebook: facebook.com/counterculturestoreTikTok: @counterculturestore Listen, subscribe, and share with a fellow founder, change-maker, or beauty lover on their own conscious business journey. What’s one personal moment that sparked your biggest professional shift?Drop us a comment and join the conversation with our vibrant community of values-led women. If you are a female founder and interested in being featured in the near future please contact lucy@ecrubox

    Listen to Episode 5: From Corporate to Conscious - Wendy Martin’s Beauty Industry Wake-Up Call

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How often do we share what’s coming next? As leaders, we often talk about our past achievements - what we’ve done to get where we are today. It can almost feel risky opening up about plans- what if it doesn’t work, or someone else gets there first? Yet, there’s incredible power in sharing what’s ahead. So we’re skipping the usual success stories and focusing on what’s next. The risks, the big ideas, and the game-changing moves female founders and leaders are making . Join us and our incredible guests to find out what's next. Get ready to be inspired.