Playing The Fool

Jarna Saunders

Welcome to the PLAYING THE FOOL Podcast, I am your host Jarna Saunders. I am a proud as f**k Life and Relationship Coach and personal development nerd, with a HUGE passion to get every single woman in the arena of their own lives.  I have over 10 years’ experience coaching 100's of women and couples. I've been where you may be right now: for years I sat on the side-lines of my life, stuck in fear, in my head, in the past of that ONE TIME I was put back in my corner and I let it cripple me with fear. That was until one day when the PAIN of staying hidden was too much to take and I made the choice to get my butt in  the ARENA of MY OWN life. To take the risk of looking like a beginner, looking silly and GOD forbid looking like a FOOL. My promise to you is to show up here in all my parts and seasons with my heart proudly on my sleeve, gate keeping nothing but asking us all to WALK OUR GOD DAM ARSES out of the corners we were never born to exist in. Let's Play.

  1. 2d ago

    Episode 49: Nothing Changes if "Nothing Changes": Your Life Is Up To You.

    The problem is you don’t know what you don’t know. And that’s exactly why learning, healing, and choosing yourself can change everything but so often we don't know it can because we havn't learnt it yet AND we don't know it exists. This episode is a reminder that courage isn’t about being fearless. It’s about being willing to step into discomfort, trust yourself, and build a life that feels aligned, grounded, and deeply yours. If you’ve been waiting for the "right time," it doesn't bloody exist and that it part of the problem. Because here's what I know after almost 20 years of this work. The women who create lives they genuinely love aren't the women who never feel fear. They're the women who know life is scary and messy and hard AND they show up anyway. They stop waiting. They stop watching. They stop sitting on the sidelines. They become brave enough to go "f**k around and find out". In this episode, I'm sharing why I believe courage changes everything, why playing the fool is the price of becoming the woman you know you're here to be, and why staying the same is often far more painful than taking the risk. I also share why I created The Heart is the Bar, the exact way it has changed hundreds of womens lives. This is also the very last time I'll be running The Heart is the Bar in its current 12-week format. If you've been circling it, watching from a distance, or telling yourself, "Maybe next time," I want you to know there won't be another round like this. $539 to go all in on YOU. Imagin what could be possible going into 2027 being able to take yourself less seriulsy and face your life HEAD ON. Then imagine how another 6 months of NOT learning another way is going to feel. Then you get to choose babe. Rest. Replenish. Receive. A morning with Beth Katherine and Jarna Saunders Reserve your place - Nourished. Have a beautiful week babe. Love Jarna x

  2. Jul 22

    Episode 48: Haylee Guiver on The Heart is the Bar: She Stopped "F*****g Around" and Finally "Found out."

    This episode snippet is for anyone who’s ever felt like they were the problem. (Episode 6 is the full Episode) Four years ago, Haylee walked into The Heart is the Bar and she is now walking into her 7th Round. In this conversation Haylee and I talk about what happens when you stop believing you're the problem. When you stop trying to earn your worth by fixing yourself. When you stop waiting for permission and just bloody JUMP into the arena of your own life no matter how scared you are. This isn't a conversation about becoming someone new. This is about what’s possible when you finally learn how to “stay” with yourself. Over these last 4 years I have witnessed Haylee learn to stay in all her feelings, her beliefs and her fears and show up anyway. I have seen her stop second-guessing herself, back herself in ways she never thought she could, and become the woman who goes first. Haylee is the woman who shows up in her OWN BODY so you can show up in yours. She shows us how to release the heaviness and expectations that society has placed on us, She believes every woman carries her own unique magic and through art and healing she creates space where you can step FULLY into feeling yours. You can connect with Haylee in the links below. She also has the most beautiful offerings and potent Reels so make sure you go and follow her. She is an absolute creative goddess. www.instagram.com/hayleeguiver www.hayleeguiver.com.au Doors are now Open, We begin Monday the 24th of August. The Heart is the Bar is the place where you stop outsourcing your safety and start living from a place of INNER. No more sitting on the sidelines of your life and no more WAITING. This is a 12-week coaching programme for the woman who is ready to f**k around and FINALLY find out. No more playing small and feeling the overwhelm and fatigue that keeps showing up over and over again. Over these 12 weeks, you’ll build emotional courage, self-trust, and the capacity to hold so much more. You’ll learn how to speak honestly without over-explaining, set boundaries without shutting down, and choose yourself without guilt and confusion. This is the last time that I teach it in this way. After this round The Heart is the Bar will evolve into her next chapter.

  3. Jul 15

    Episode 47: Gabrielle walker: RomiRomi, Healing & The Certainty in an Open Heart.

    There are people who don’t just change your life but they change the whole you experience your life, Gabrielle Walker is one of those people for me. When we first met over twelve years ago, I had no idea the journey we were about to begin together. Through some of the hardest seasons of my life, marriage struggles, motherhood, grief, and learning who I really was Gabrielle became someone who helped me reconnect with myself in a way I'd never experienced before. In this episode, I'm sharing one of the most personal conversations I've ever had on the podcast. We talk about how we met, my first experience with RomiRomi, and why Māori healing completely transformed the way I relate to pain, trust, and my own power as a woman. For so many years, I searched outside of myself for answers. This work taught me that everything I was looking for was already within me. I just needed to learn how to listen. We explore the difference between trying to fix ourselves and learning to fully accept ourselves, how healing happens through the body, and why building self-trust has been one of the greatest gifts I've ever received. If you've ever questioned yourself, struggled to trust your intuition, or felt disconnected from who you really are, I hope this conversation reminds you that your body already knows the way home. Gabrielle is a Māori Healing practitioner, Counsellor, teacher, writer and space holder devoted to healing, and embodied spiritual remembering. Through her work, Gabrielle weaves Māori healing, counselling, wānanga, body-based wisdom, whakapapa, intuitive practice and sacred reflection. Her teaching style is gentle, grounded and spacious, inviting people to learn not only through the mind, but through the body, the wairua, the heart and the unseen. In this season of life and practice, Gabrielle is exploring new ways of teaching, creating and living with more softness, presence and play. She has also recently become a fur-Mum to Luma, her Groodle, who is bringing a lot of movement, laughter, patience and new energy into her everyday life. Gabrielle holds all healing spaces as sacred moments for those who feel called to deepen their relationship with their own inner knowing. Her intention is to support each person to listen more deeply, remember what is already woven within them, and walk this work with respect, tenderness and courage. Website: www.tirohanga.com.au  Next wānanga ~ training is a retreat in Balingup: https://tirohanga.com.au/balingup/  Perth October wānanga: https://tirohanga.com.au/akotorowhanui/ Before you go, I have something really special to share with you. The Heart Is The Bar is officially open This is the space where I get to go even deeper, where we continue the conversations that don't end when the podcast does. If you're craving to not only know your power but how to also embody it then these 12 weeks are for you. Thank you for being here, and I'll see you in the next episode.

  4. Jul 8

    Episode 46: Melissa Hohaia: Perimenopause, ADHD and the Truth About Our Vagina's.

    For so long, I thought I was just tired. I convinced myself I needed more sleep, more water, more vegetables, or that this was simply what getting older felt like. I had no idea I was experiencing perimenopause. In this episode, I sit down with Naturopath and Women's health coach Melissa Hohaia to have an incredible raw conversation about hormones. We dive into what perimenopause actually is and why so many women end up gas lighting themselves and how understanding your body's unique health blueprint can completely change the way you approach your life. If you've ever wondered why your body suddenly feels different, why you're experiencing brain fog, anxiety, fatigue, or just don't feel like yourself anymore, this conversation is for you. Melissa Hohaia is a Naturopath and coach who is changing the world of healthcare for women - believing that modern medicine gaslights women into unnecessary suffering and dismisses their discomfort. Women deserve better and by offering out-of-the-box solutions, Melissa is able to make a transformational difference. With over 2 decades of experience and multiple qualifications (including a Bachelor of Science degree along with Naturopathy, NLP and emotional coaching certifications), Melissa is a former personal trainer and woman in her mid-40s who is walking the walk. She has helped thousands of women to elevate their health, feel good in their skin and find themselves again in a world that often feels exhausting and overwhelming. Melissa believes that happy healthy women create healthy happy families, which has the power to impact generations to come." All links are below for you to connect with this incredible woman. Website: www.melissahohaia.com Instagram:  melissa.hohaia.naturopath Facebook:  Facebook.com/melissa.hohaia.naturopath Perimenopause Quiz (aka questionnaire) If this conversation resonates with you, I'd love for you to share it with another woman who might need to hear it. Sometimes knowing you're not alone is the beginning of healing. Doors Open to The Heart is the Bar Now. Secure Your Spot here – Pay in Full Secure Your Spot here – Split Payment 12 weeks of learning how to STAY, in your body, boundaries and YOUR beliefs. You matter too babe. Love Jarna xx

  5. Jul 1

    Episode 45: Beth Katherine: Two Women With a Fire to See You Win.

    There was a time when I thought nutrition was simply about eating the "right" foods and it was never about how I wanted to FEEL but it was so tied into how I wanted to LOOK.But the more I've grown, healed, and had conversations with incredible women like Beth, the more I've realized that true nourishment goes so much deeper than what's on my plate. In this episode, I sit down with clinical nutritionist Beth Catherine for a conversation that completely activated the way I FEEL about food, health, and caring for myself again. Today we dive into our relationship with food, the beliefs we inherited growing up, and why so many women have been taught to disconnect from their bodies instead of listening to them. What I loved most about this conversation is that it's not about dieting, restriction, or chasing perfection. It's about understanding what our bodies are asking for, creating sustainable habits, and realizing that nourishment also comes through sleep, nature, movement, community, and giving ourselves permission to slow down and CHOOSE OURSEVLES TOO. If you've ever felt overwhelmed by wellness advice, struggled with your relationship with food, or found yourself constantly putting everyone else's needs before your own, this episode is for you. Below is how you can connect with Beth and also with our incredible Half Day Retreat that we are holding on Saturday the 2nd of August. Tickets are on sale now. Nourished Half Day Retreat - Beth and I are two women with a real fire in our bellies to see you win at life. We promise you the most heartfelt, no b******t morning of connection, laughter, tears and celebration. A day to Rest, Replenish, Receive.  https://www.bethkatherine.com.au/nourished Bloom is a 12-week nutrition program for women who want to feel like themselves again. Built on food as medicine, it moves through three gentle phases, Regulate, Restore, and Embody, to settle your nervous system, rebalance your hormones, and rebuild a way of eating that actually lasts. Weekly live calls, real clinical guidance, recipes, and tools, with deeply human care throughout. The next round begins 4 August 2026. $2499 for the full 12 weeks. https://www.bethkatherine.com.au/bloom Connect with Beth on Instagram here. Join the Waitlist for The Heart is the Bar here, doors open soon. Love Jarna x

  6. Jun 24

    Episode 44: 1 Year In: The Full Truth of Where I Am Really At.

    One Year ago I hit publish on my very first podcast episode. Today I am celebrating 44 Episodes, over 50 hours of content, and a version of myself that wouldn't exist if I hadn't been willing to "Play the Fool" and have a crack. In this episode, I reflect on what podcasting has actually taught me: not just how to speak, coach, and share more confidently, but how to trust myself, publish imperfect work, and keep showing up even when it feels like I'm talking into the void. I also share the moment that cracked something open for me this week. During a Sunday yoga practice, I caught myself abandoning my own experience just to create content. That frustration led to a much bigger realization: the way I've been doing business and marketing has gotten me to here, but it won't get me to where I want to go next. Growth isn't just about doing more, it's about being willing to evolve. The strategies, habits, and identities that helped me create success may not be the same ones that carry me into my next chapter. Sometimes the bravest thing we can do is become a beginner again. If this episode resonated with you, I'd love to hear from you. Your feedback is one of the greatest gifts you can give as I celebrate one year of the podcast. Share your biggest takeaway and let me know how the podcast has impacted your life. 💛 Connect with me on Instagram @JarnaSaunders . Join the Heart Is The Bar waitlist today. Doors are opening soon, and you'll want to be first in line when they do. Don't miss this opportunity to be part of something truly transformative.

  7. Jun 17

    Episode 43: Becoming Insufferable: The Fastest Way to Find Your Worth.

    In this episode, I share a concept that has completely shifted my perspective lately: being "insufferable." After buying a new microphone and joking that I was about to become insufferable, I started reflecting on what that word really means. While the dictionary paints it as something negative, I've come to see it very differently. To me, being insufferable means being unapologetically yourself. It means taking up space, owning your voice, honoring your needs, and refusing to shrink to make other people comfortable. I dive into why so many of us are afraid of being seen as "too much" and how that fear keeps us playing small. Whether it's in our relationships, our work, our parenting, or our dreams, we often silence ourselves to avoid criticism, rejection, or judgment. I also share personal stories about my journey from making bold decisions for myself to showing up visibly online, building my business, and creating the life and relationships I deeply desire. My message is simple: if you want more peace, more joy, more fulfillment, and more alignment in your life, you have to get comfortable with being misunderstood. You have to trust yourself enough to be seen. You are not too much. And maybe the life you're craving is waiting on the other side of becoming a little more "insufferable." If this episode resonates with you, I'd love to hear your biggest takeaway. Come share it with me on Instagram @JarnaSaunders and let's continue the conversation. If you're ready to make a courageous choice and finally do the work, I'd love to support you. Join me inside Tender or through 1:1 Relationship Coaching, and let's begin creating the life, love, and peace you truly deserve. 💛 Your next chapter starts with one brave decision. Let's do this, babe.

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Welcome to the PLAYING THE FOOL Podcast, I am your host Jarna Saunders. I am a proud as f**k Life and Relationship Coach and personal development nerd, with a HUGE passion to get every single woman in the arena of their own lives.  I have over 10 years’ experience coaching 100's of women and couples. I've been where you may be right now: for years I sat on the side-lines of my life, stuck in fear, in my head, in the past of that ONE TIME I was put back in my corner and I let it cripple me with fear. That was until one day when the PAIN of staying hidden was too much to take and I made the choice to get my butt in  the ARENA of MY OWN life. To take the risk of looking like a beginner, looking silly and GOD forbid looking like a FOOL. My promise to you is to show up here in all my parts and seasons with my heart proudly on my sleeve, gate keeping nothing but asking us all to WALK OUR GOD DAM ARSES out of the corners we were never born to exist in. Let's Play.