The Political Marketing Podcast

Benedict Pringle

The Political Marketing Podcast seeks to understand how election candidates, political parties and campaigning organisations win hearts, minds and votes. Hosted by Benedict Pringle, the show features interviews with strategists, creatives, pollsters, consultants, academics, advisors and insiders working at the sharp end of political persuasion. Expect thoughtful conversations about what works, what doesn’t, and what’s changing in the world of political marketing. Whether you’re a campaign pro, a marketing geek, or just politically curious, this podcast offers a unique view on the machinery of political persuasion. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Episodes

  1. Jul 6

    The Rise of Influencer Marketing in Politics

    Getting a voter's attention is harder than ever. Traditional ads are easy to ignore, and the media is split into thousands of pieces. In this episode of the Political Marketing Podcast, Benedict Pringle sits down with digital strategists Ryan Davis and Nicole Dunger to explore how influencer marketing is changing the political landscape. They discuss how Donald Trump’s 2024 campaign shifted the mainstream view of digital creators, why micro-influencers are more effective than celebrities in local races, and how campaigns can use real people to break through the noise without losing message discipline. About the GuestsRyan Davis is a veteran Democratic digital strategist and the founder of People First, the first influencer marketing company in American politics. He got his start on Howard Dean’s famous 2004 web team, served as the first social media director at Blue State—where he worked on over 50 campaigns, including Obama 2012—and has been the digital director for a dozen state and local campaigns.Nicole Dunger is a digital engagement strategist who works at the intersection of audience behavior, social media, and public influence. Trained in demographic analysis and social listening, she helps campaigns, non-profits, and brands understand and engage their target audiences.Key Takeaways from this EpisodeThe Shift to Decentralized Media: Political campaigns are entering a new era. Just as social media defined the 2008 Obama campaign, influencer marketing has become a dominant force, heavily proven by political movements in recent cycles.Messenger vs. Message: Voters trust people, not brands. Partnering with "normy" creators—like suburban moms talking about childcare—is far more effective at persuading undecided voters than using purely political commentators.The Influencer Pyramid: A successful program scales from the top down. Use one or two macro-influencers for broad awareness, mid-tier creators to drive consideration, and a larger group of micro-influencers (under 50k followers) to drive actual persuasion at the local level.Issue-Based vs. Candidate Endorsements: Many creators fear alienating their audience by endorsing a specific politician. Campaigns can solve this by hiring creators to raise awareness about specific issues (like climate change or reproductive rights), then using traditional ads to connect the candidate to those issues.Vetting in the Modern Era: Democratic campaigns are often too conservative when vetting creators. The era of the perfectly scripted campaign is over. If a creator is passionate, fits the demographic, and behaves like a normal person, they are a viable messenger.Connect with UsWebsite: www.politicaladvertising.co.ukSubscribe: Never miss an episode by subscribing on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app.

  2. 11/13/2025

    Inside the Numbers with Labour's Polling Pro

    What does political polling for a campaign really look like behind closed doors? On this episode of The Political Marketing Podcast, we're joined by Peter McLeod, founder of Hold Sway, a research, insight and strategy agency, and a veteran of Labour's 2015 and 2024 general election campaigns. As a former VP at the iconic Democratic polling firm Greenberg Quinlan Rosner (GQR), Peter brings over 20 years of expertise to explain how polls are used—and often misunderstood—in the high-stakes world of political communication. We pull back the curtain on the day-to-day grind of a campaign pollster, the strategic thinking that defined the 2024 general election, and the profound shift in how voters now engage with political parties. In this episode, we discuss: The Campaign Playbook: What does a campaign pollster actually do? Why Labour was running focus groups almost every night of the 2024 campaign. Polls are NOT Policy: Understanding the crucial distinction between using research to inform communications versus setting government policy. Wide But Shallow: An insider's breakdown of why the 2024 campaign felt "cautious" and what the "wide but shallow" support critique actually means for Labour. The Two-Point Swing: Why strategically, winning a voter from the Conservative/Reform block is "worth twice as much" to Labour as winning a progressive voter. Voters as Shoppers: How the total breakdown of rigid Party ID is forcing all campaigns to rethink their strategy, and why you can't take any vote for granted. The Next Big Shift: Peter's view on the future of political campaigning, from data to cultural change. If you want to understand the strategic forces shaping our political landscape and the mechanics of how votes are truly won, this is a must-listen episode. #PoliticalMarketing #Labour #Polling #GeneralElection #ElectionStrategy #VoterInsight #UKPolitics #PeterMcLeod #Podcast #PoliticalStrategy #Campaigns Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    Inside the Numbers with Labour's Polling Pro
  3. 07/17/2025

    Polling & Political Strategy: An Inside Look

    In this episode, Benedict is joined by Damian Lyons-Lowe, founder and CEO of Survation, one of the UK's most influential market research firms. This conversation dives deep into what political parties truly know about voters and how that understanding shapes their strategy, both overtly and subtly. Damian cuts through the common narratives about polling in politics, revealing that both extremes—that everything is "polled and focus-grouped to death" and that the "whole operation is a complete shambles"—can, in fact, be true simultaneously. You'll hear Damian discuss the critical balance between "gut instinct" and data-driven decisions. He unpacks complex dilemmas, such as Labour's strategic challenge in appealing to different voter groups, and whether focusing on issues like the NHS or immigration holds more sway. The episode also explores the "nuts and bolts of a political segmentation" – how parties group voters based on views, characteristics, and behaviours using rigorous data. Damian shares fascinating insights into the impact of a fragmented voter landscape on top-line polling and the increasing sophistication of tactical voting in elections. Finally, Damian offers crucial advice for any political campaign: don't just poll for popularity. Understand your credibility on an issue and consider the potential trade-offs and alternatives of any policy. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    Polling & Political Strategy: An Inside Look
  4. 07/10/2025

    Marketing against populists

    In this episode of the Political Marketing podcast, host Benedict Pringle interviews Sir Chris Powell, a prominent figure in British advertising and political marketing. They discuss the historical context and impact of Labour’s ‘Shadow Communications Agency’ in the 1980s and 1990s, as well as the challenges posed by populism in contemporary politics. Sir Chris shares insights from his experience advising the Labour Party, emphasising the importance of understanding voter concerns, the need for cooperation among anti-populist forces, and strategies for effectively engaging with voters. The conversation also touches on the significance of addressing bread-and-butter issues rather than getting distracted by populist rhetoric. Takeaways The Shadow Communications Agency was a convenient fiction.Understanding cultural context is crucial for effective campaigning.Cooperation among anti-populist forces is essential for success.Targeting non-voters may yield better results than chasing floating voters.Direct attacks on populist leaders can backfire and reinforce their support.Addressing voter concerns is key to winning elections.Effective political communication requires clarity and relatability.  Keywords political marketing, advertising, populism, election strategy, Labour Party, political communication, voter engagement, anti-populism, political campaigns, Sir Chris Powell Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    Marketing against populists

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The Political Marketing Podcast seeks to understand how election candidates, political parties and campaigning organisations win hearts, minds and votes. Hosted by Benedict Pringle, the show features interviews with strategists, creatives, pollsters, consultants, academics, advisors and insiders working at the sharp end of political persuasion. Expect thoughtful conversations about what works, what doesn’t, and what’s changing in the world of political marketing. Whether you’re a campaign pro, a marketing geek, or just politically curious, this podcast offers a unique view on the machinery of political persuasion. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.