Episode 1, Part 1: Meet Mark and Harry Welcome to the first episode of Honest Conversations and Healthy Organizations, a new podcast produced alongside Faith in Process, releasing every other month. This series brings together two longtime friends who have each spent decades moving between the worlds of business and the church: Mark L. Vincent and Harry Jarrett. This first episode comes in four parts, and this is part one. Who Are Mark and Harry? Mark L. Vincent, Ph.D., EPC is the founder of Design Group International and Maestro-level Leaders, and founder of the Society for Process Consulting. A Process Consulting pioneer and Executive Advisor, Mark is certified as an Executive Process Consultant (EPC) and serves on multiple boards with an eye to their efficiency, relevance, and mission-centeredness. Mark’s distinguished career spans more than thirty-five years pioneering approaches to Process Consulting, executive leadership and organizational capacity-building, entrepreneurship, and professional development. His focus on a process approach to helping organizations and leaders live into their mission has led to successful adaptive change initiatives with more than 900 clients across varied domestic and international marketplaces. Beginning in the year 2000, Mark translated Dr. Edgar Schein’s formative academic work into the professional field of Process Consulting—co-creating what help looks like with clients, so that clients own what they say they want. He authored the foundational text “Listening Helping Learning: Core Competencies of Process Consulting,” which lays out the roadmap to partnership with clients and serves as the curriculum for Process Consulting certification. Mark specializes in working with accomplished leaders in the “Third Turn” of their careers—executives who are focusing on future value, succession, and legacy. He brings attentive listening, incisive questioning, and strategic resources to the integration of being and doing at the level of executive leadership. Through Maestro-level Leaders, he hosts advising cohorts specifically designed for leaders in transition, offering monthly cohort calls, individual advising, and regular in-person retreats—providing succession support not found anywhere else. Mark has worked extensively with churches and faith-based organizations, including substantial consulting work in the Mennonite Church and broader Anabaptist communities in Italy, Sicily, and across the United States. His unique background bridges both business and faith sectors, bringing deep understanding of both corporate dynamics and church leadership. Mark is also a member of the Sage Group Collective, which brings peers and experts to pressing opportunities and challenges through ninety-minute intensive panel sessions. He serves on the boards of Century Companies, 10x Connect, and the Center for Steward Leader Studies. A Boise, Idaho-based nomad, Mark is married to Patricia Teall Vincent, a life coach. Together they divide their time between family, work, and their blended family of six children and seven grandchildren spread from Boise, Idaho to Syracuse, New York. Mark is committed to “the hope of our grandchildren’s grandchildren.” His book about Maestro-level Leaders, titled The Maestro Effect: Future Value, Succession, and Legacy in Business was recently released. He currently serves as "Visionary and Convener" of Maestro Suite Advisors. Harry Walthall Jarrett, Jr., M.Div. is a unique bridge-builder who has spent his career moving seamlessly between pastoral ministry, international missions, entrepreneurship, and hospitality management. His rare combination of deep theological training, hands-on business leadership, and pastoral experience positions him to speak with authority about the intersection of faith and work, spiritual formation and organizational health, and the practical challenges facing churches today. Harry’s ministry career spans three decades, beginning with Youth Evangelism Service in Bari, Italy (1988-1989) and continuing as a missionary and church planter in Sicily with Virginia Mennonite Board of Missions (1991-2000). During his time in Sicily, Harry aided in the growth of church plants in Capaci and Brancaccio, formed a Mennonite church in Termini Imerese, and served as Founding Dean of the Italian Mennonite Discipleship School in Palermo, training national leaders serving six Sicilian Mennonite churches. Returning to the United States, Harry served as Associate Pastor of Praise Fellowship at Harrisonburg Mennonite Church (2001-2006), where he led the ministry from 40 to 240 members and attendees, and as Lead Pastor of Neffsville Mennonite Church in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania (2006-2013), where he supervised staff, provided pastoral care to 600+ members, and led the congregation through significant organizational transitions and renewed missional focus. Since 2013, Harry has been a member of the Church of the Brethren and has served the Shenandoah District as interim pastor at Leakes Chapel and Elks Run. He was ordained by Virginia Mennonite Conference in 1994. Following his pastoral role at Neffsville, Harry demonstrated entrepreneurial leadership through founding KyrieTech (2010), a consulting firm specializing in social media strategy and digital community management, and On Sunny Slope Farm (2013), a special events and wedding venue in Harrisonburg, Virginia, which he continues to operate with his wife Beth. From 2017 to 2022, Harry served as SMERF, Wedding, and Tour & Travel Sales Manager at Hotel Madison and Shenandoah Valley Conference Center. In 2022, he transitioned to Director of Sales with OCI Hospitality and the Harrisonburg Courtyard Marriott, where he was promoted to General Manager within months. He served in that role until returning to full-time pastoral ministry at Pleasant Valley Church of the Brethren in Weyers Cave, Virginia, where he currently serves as pastor. Harry is an active writer and podcaster, maintaining a Substack publication where he explores weaving faith, hospitality, and business into everyday life. He produces two weekly podcasts: Faith at Work and Faith in Process. He has taught in Eastern Mennonite University’s STEP program, co-created the Timothy Project for ministry formation, and served as moderator of the Atlantic Coast Conference. Harry earned his B.S. in Christian Ministries and Congregational Leadership (with a minor in missions) from Eastern Mennonite University (1991) and his Master of Divinity from Eastern Mennonite Seminary (2006). He is certified in Prepare and Enrich marital and premarital counseling. Born in 1964 in Charlottesville, Virginia, Harry grew up in Lynchburg but always considered Harrisonburg home, where his grandparents lived on the family farm. Harry and his wife Beth reside in Harrisonburg, Virginia. They have three adult children—Harrison (married to Hannah), Christopher (married to Savannah), and Sarah (married to Jeremy Whitmore)—and three grandchildren with one on the way. Harry’s hobbies include farming and gardening, cooking, fishing, and biking. Where This Series Is Headed Over six bi-monthly episodes, Mark and Harry will have honest conversations about the challenges facing churches and pastoral leaders today, using a simple but clarifying framework: the difference between a condition, a persistent reality to be managed, and a problem, an issue that can actually be solved. Episode one sets the table. The episodes that follow will explore the locus of authority in a post-sola-scriptura world, declining participation, the leadership pipeline crisis, navigating controversy, and what faithfulness looks like in a season of institutional decline. Continue the conversation in Episode 1, Part 2. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit pastorharryjarrett.substack.com/subscribe