The Business of Trust

Moondesk Media, LLC

The Business of Trust is a show about what really drives growth in today’s trust-starved world: relationships. Marketing has gotten noisy, salesy, and often manipulative. But in the world of high-value services, trust matters more than tactics. And trust isn’t built through funnels or cold emails, it’s built human to human. Hosted by Hugo Sanchez, this podcast explores how coaches, consultants, and business development pros actually win clients—by earning trust, building reputation, and forming meaningful connections. If your business grows through a few key, high-level relationships, this podcast is for you.

  1. Trusting Life with Lama Karma Chötso

    Feb 12

    Trusting Life with Lama Karma Chötso

    Watch Video Version:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjQgOXO50qM Show Notes:In this episode of The Business of Trust, I sit down with Lama Karma Chötso to explore a question that feels both simple and impossibly deep: What does it actually mean to trust life? I first met Lama years ago when she was leading the Open Awareness Buddhist Center Sangha in Miami. I remember asking her—very seriously—if she was enlightened. She laughed and said, “Oh my gosh, no. That takes like 10 lifetimes.” That mix of wisdom and humility is exactly what you’ll hear in this conversation. Lama began studying in the Kagyu lineage of Tibetan Buddhism in 1982 and later completed a traditional three-year, three-month meditation retreat in seclusion. But what makes this conversation powerful isn’t philosophy—it’s how practical her perspective becomes when applied to business, uncertainty, and the emotional reality of entrepreneurship. This episode felt personal for me. I share openly about a season of uncertainty I went through in December—when things felt like they were falling apart relationally and professionally. And instead of trying to fix it, Lama challenged me to look at uncertainty differently. What if groundlessness is liberating? What You’ll Learn: The difference between hope and trust—and why confusing the two creates anxietyWhy trust must come after examination, not blind beliefHow entrepreneurs get trapped manipulating outcomes instead of dancing with changeWhat resilience actually feels like when you stop resisting uncertaintyWhy uncertainty isn’t the same as sufferingHow to work with triggers by shifting into awareness instead of reactionThe difference between confusion and clarity—and how to move between them in real timeWhy creativity expands when you relax your grip on control This conversation is especially relevant for coaches and consultants navigating change—whether in your business, your identity, or your leadership. Because maybe the goal isn’t to eliminate uncertainty. Maybe the goal is to become steady in the middle of it. Connect with Lama Karma Chötso: Instagram: @LamaKC Website: LamaKC.com Music: Search “Lama KC – No Hopes No Fears” on Spotify & YouTube

    33 min
  2. Trusting Yourself When There’s No Clear Plan with Lyssa DeHart

    Jan 29

    Trusting Yourself When There’s No Clear Plan with Lyssa DeHart

    Watch Video Version:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pa-SKjXNtiY Show Notes:In this episode of The Business of Trust, I sit down with Lyssa DeHart to explore a kind of trust we rarely talk about in business: self-trust—especially when there’s no clear plan. Lyssa is a master certified coach, former clinical social worker, and author who has worked with more than 10,000 coaches and leaders around the world. But her path into coaching didn’t come from certainty or a perfectly mapped strategy. It came from burnout, transition, and the courage to take the next right step without knowing where it would lead. We rewind to 2013, when Lyssa shut down her therapy practice after years of working in trauma and PTSD. It was only after stepping away that she realized how deeply exhausted she was—and how much space she needed to rethink not just her work, but her identity. In our conversation, we talk about: Why burnout often hides behind competence and successThe difference between helping people becomefunctionalversus helping themthriveWhat changes when you move from a fixing mindset to a partnering oneWhy you don’t need a full plan—just the willingness to take the next stepHow trust is built long before money ever changes handsThe pivotal moment when changes to the ICF credentialing exam reshaped her entire businessWhy every skill and experience you bring with you—even the unexpected ones—can become a real advantageWhat it means to stay relevant as a coach in a world where AI is rapidly evolving This episode is an honest look at what it really takes to grow a service-based business when certainty isn’t available—and why trusting yourself might be the most important strategy of all. Connect with Lyssa: Website:https://lyssadehart.com/LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/lyssadehart/Podcast:https://open.spotify.com/show/2GOw0n3oNk7vkCCxK8dk8T

    39 min
  3. What Coaches Must Bring to the Table When AI Has All the Answers with Brian Gorman

    12/18/2025

    What Coaches Must Bring to the Table When AI Has All the Answers with Brian Gorman

    Watch Video Version:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVk9S5jajX4 Show NotesIn this episode of The Business of Trust, I sit down with Brian Gorman—leadership and transformation coach, founder of TransformingLives.coach, host of the Conversations Podcast, and author of his new book "Leading into the Age of Wisdom." Brian has spent decades helping organizations navigate change, he brings a level of perspective that feels especially relevant right now. What stood out to me in this conversation is how clearly he names what many of us are sensing but haven’t fully articulated yet: intelligence is being commoditized—but wisdom is not. We talk about why this moment isn’t an evolutionary shift, but a revolutionary one—on the scale of the Industrial Revolution—and why coaches, consultants, and trusted advisors have a critical role to play if we’re willing to bring our whole selves to the work What You’ll Learn: The difference between intelligence, knowledge, and wisdom, and why that distinction matters more than everHow organizations are stuck in outdated Industrial Age rituals (like time-based work) that no longer serve usWhy engagement is so low in most organizations—and what happens when wisdom is captured from the frontline, not just the C-suiteThe role of energy, nervous system regulation, and belonging in creativity and leadershipHow coaches can use AI as a tool without outsourcing their responsibility or integrity Connect with Brian: Website: transforminglives.coach LinkedIn Profile

    30 min
  4. Why Your Next Big Client Won’t Come from Marketing Hacks With Eve Simon

    12/04/2025

    Why Your Next Big Client Won’t Come from Marketing Hacks With Eve Simon

    Watch Video Version:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwQ9I75IlQ0 Show NotesIn this episode, I talk with Eve Simon — an international consultant and executive coach who blends German precision with California innovation. After nearly two decades working with Fortune 500 leaders, Eve has built her philosophy around regenerative leadership, a human-centered approach to growth that goes beyond hustle and hacks. Her journey from telecom executive in Germany to entrepreneur in Silicon Valley opened the door to conscious business, somatic intelligence, and a completely different way of thinking about leadership and impact. We dig into why your biggest clients don’t come from clever marketing but from relationships, referrals, and the “champions” who believe in your work. Eve shares how one introduction shifted the entire trajectory of her consulting career and why building something tangibly human matters more than ever in an AI-driven world. We also get into nervous system regulation, intuitive decision-making, and why the future of leadership is more collaborative, more grounded, and far more human than the traditional models many of us grew up with. What You’ll Learn: How Eve went from corporate leader to launching a conscious business in Silicon ValleyWhy her first clients came through dance, community, and curiosity — not marketing tacticsWhy referrals and relationships will always outperform clever marketingWhat conscious business actually means (beyond the buzzwords)Why the future of leadership is more human than ever Connect with Eve: LinkedIn:Eve SimonWebsite:evesimon.comKeep an eye out for her upcoming book,The Future of Leadership in the Age of AI, and her next Future of Leadership Salon launching in San Francisco.

    30 min
5
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6 Ratings

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The Business of Trust is a show about what really drives growth in today’s trust-starved world: relationships. Marketing has gotten noisy, salesy, and often manipulative. But in the world of high-value services, trust matters more than tactics. And trust isn’t built through funnels or cold emails, it’s built human to human. Hosted by Hugo Sanchez, this podcast explores how coaches, consultants, and business development pros actually win clients—by earning trust, building reputation, and forming meaningful connections. If your business grows through a few key, high-level relationships, this podcast is for you.