The Other Stuff with internetVin

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A show where we surf the internet with our friends. The Other Stuff is hosted by internetVin (x.com/internetvin) — filmmaker, entrepreneur and possibly the most curious man on Earth. This show is created by New (x.com/newsystems_)

  1. Oct 26

    Udara Jay: What Can One Person Do With AI Now? | The Other Stuff #38

    Udara Jay (https://udara.io, https://x.com/TGUPJ) is a designer, engineer, explorer, and the founder of UNMS (https://un.ms/)In this conversation, Udara walks us through New Dawn Protocol, a globe-scale civilization sandbox game about rebuilding shared systems and living with what they make possible. What once took a triple-A studio, Udara is now building on his own.The game opens onto a larger question: what does this technology make possible, and what is it changing that we can’t see? The GPU was built to draw games and now runs AI. A phone sets a photo’s exposure without asking, and without our noticing that a decision was made at all. Agents will soon make choices for us the same way. Udara argues that most people experience AI only through their social feeds or a narrow slice of the world as it currently is, and that even the people building it can’t see where it’s going.internetVin and Udara push the question as far as it goes: what do people become once machines run the systems we built, and why learn anything once knowing is no longer an advantage?The Other Stuff is hosted by internetVin, a filmmaker, entrepreneur, and possibly the most curious man on Earth. Produced by New.—Timestamps00:00:00 Growing Up Making Things in Sri Lanka00:15:22 Where New Dawn Protocol Came From00:31:47 Demo: How New Dawn Protocol Works00:51:59 Making Games to Understand Complex Systems00:55:47 Building the Game Alone with AI01:04:07 Should Games Ship with Their Own AI?01:16:45 Why Build a Game in the Browser01:24:11 How Games Built the GPU That Runs AI01:37:53 When Anyone Can Mod Any Game01:45:31 What We’ll Value When Software Is Free01:55:51 How AI Changes Things Without Us Noticing02:06:07 Why Learn Anything If AI Knows It?02:11:23 What We Do Once AI Runs the Systems02:17:33 A Family Agent with Its Own Phone02:24:58 Local Networks and Keeping Your Own Context02:33:19 What Tracking Yourself Can Tell You02:51:10 ESP32s: Tiny Computers for Everything03:11:50 Udara’s Home Lab and Personal Agent03:28:34 Distill: A Private Twitter for Ideas03:37:18 Predictions for What Comes Next—The Other Stuff Podcast: https://otherstuffshow.comYouTube: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLK0osV4LBB6zLfDk-KDV9FtDg7y0bJ3AWSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1kImmU1R1DYTeM1AKZRWkx?si=2feeadb93ad4419fApple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-other-stuff-with-internetvin/id1828762531Twitter: https://x.com/otherstuffshowInstagram: https://instagram.com/otherstuffshowinternetVinhttps://x.com/internetvinNew Systemshttps://x.com/newsystems_https://instagram.com/newsystems_https://newsystems.ca

  2. Oct 14

    Clement Leung: Why Document a Bowl of Noodles? | The Other Stuff #37

    Clement Leung makes food videos as insta.noodls. He is an investigator and storyteller whose focus is uncovering dishes and cuisines worth trying.We started by cooking Shin Ramyun on the table, and he showed us his hack: crack two eggs into the leftover broth and microwave it. Clement walked us through how he started documenting food and why.Then we talked about Toronto, which Clement thinks might be the best food city in the world because it's the most diverse. We got into the economics of running a restaurant, how competitive it is to start one, and the food court stalls of Markham. Clement also reflected on the journey of documenting food, shared the stories he's picked up from getting closer with restaurant owners through his work, and told us what helping Mark Wiens taught him about what makes something legendary.The Other Stuff is hosted by internetVin, filmmaker and entrepreneur and possibly the most curious man on Earth. Produced by New.Timestamps00:00:00 Becoming the Ramen Guy00:04:25 Cooking Shin Ramyun00:23:30 Gong Zai Mein and Curry Cubes00:31:28 Stitching Through the Noodle Era00:42:16 Best Food City in the World00:56:29 A Map Drawn by Immigration01:10:00 The Plaza Is a Tournament01:22:24 No Ratings, No Free Meals01:30:40 One More Year, Then Mary Brown's01:45:37 Bifana, Shawarma, and Knafeh01:57:22 Mark Wiens02:16:59 Mark's Legendary Toronto Crawl02:38:09 China, Ten Years Ahead02:47:46 Eating Through China03:01:30 Respect the Dish

    Clement Leung: Why Document a Bowl of Noodles? | The Other Stuff #37

  3. Sep 24

    Daniel Debow: What Is the Canadian Vision? | The Other Stuff #36

    Daniel Debow (https://x.com/ddebow), an entrepreneur and musician, shows his new instrument in public for the first time in this episode. It's a campfire instrument designed so that anyone can learn to play songs in under an hour. His argument is that most people who try to learn music don't quit because they lack talent. They quit because instruments like the guitar and piano make beginners practice for a long time before they can play a single song. He explains how his team built an alternative. Four finger shapes cover most pop songs, magnets vibrate a piece of tonewood instead of a speaker, and a metronome pulses on your lap so you can feel the beat. The second half is about Canada. Vin says he has felt out of place in Canada since he was a kid, and that he measures progress against Shenzhen, which went from a fishing village to one of the most advanced cities in the world in about 50 years. He argues that the current changes, like trading with more countries than the US, are basic systems design and not enough. Daniel says Canadians who feel this way can leave, as many have, complain, or build something, and he makes the case for building. Along the way they talk about how Geary Avenue in Toronto grew into a music scene out of cheap rent and a zoning loophole, how Daniel started Build Canada by publishing dozens of policy papers the way you'd publish content online, and how the Overton window shifts. The Other Stuff is hosted by internetVin, filmmaker and entrepreneur and possibly the most curious man on Earth. Produced by New. — Timestamps00:00:00 Creating a New Musical Instrument00:09:59 Four Shapes, Any Song00:23:52 Whales, Lutes, and Leo Fender00:33:16 Making Wood Sing with Magnets00:41:26 Geary Avenue00:54:22 Out of Place in Canada01:02:18 The Ceiling You Can Feel01:07:01 Build Canada01:25:54 The Overton Window01:33:54 How the Super Deduction Works01:41:00 Shenzhen vs Toronto01:56:05 Say the Thing01:58:04 A Country of Adventurers02:03:56 Let the Weirdos Be Weird02:12:08 Canada Is a Project

  4. Jun 8

    Reece Martin: Transportation as a Way of Seeing | The Other Stuff #35

    Reece Martin (https://reecemartin.ca/) is a writer, systems thinker, and investigator who spent a decade documenting public transit systems around the world, building one of the deepest bodies of work anywhere on how cities move. We quickly learn that his YouTube channel was never really about transit. It was an investigation into how society works, told through the infrastructure everyone uses and almost no one stops to look at. Transportation lines become a table of contents for places themselves. We trace how Reece learned to see this way, from riding the New York subway alone at the age of 12, to wandering Tokyo at 2AM as a teenager, to the Urban Toronto forums and the foamers who film city buses for fun, to reading whole cities in Google Maps with the labels off. Reece explains why he decided to close the channel. Part of it is discipline: it's a chapter, and it needs to end to be a cohesive whole. The rest is harder. After ten years of seeing what a subway can be, the daily ride home wears on him, and the change he believes in is decades away, so he'd rather give his time to problems where the feedback comes faster. From there the conversation opens up into EVs, autonomy, Waymo, AI, and the quiet awe of building things bigger than human scale, the kind of infrastructure that touches millions of lives long after the people who made it are gone. The same instinct, pointed at a new set of systems. This is a conversation about what infrastructure quietly reveals about society, how you can use any subject as a lens to understand everything else, when to walk away from something you love, and why caring about a thing might be the highest-leverage move you can make. – Timestamps 00:00:00 Introduction 00:04:38 RMTransit and Documenting Transit Systems 00:10:21 Urban Toronto and Forums 00:19:52 Foamers & Paying Attention 00:26:50 Langley & the NYC Subway at 12 00:31:30 Tokyo at 2AM & Osaka 00:38:30 Singapore: If Apple Made a Subway 00:48:15 Platform Doors & Toronto vs the World 00:52:22 Chengdu Builds, Toronto Stalls 01:02:24 The Google Maps Method 01:11:52 Putting a Period on the Channel 01:25:59 Filmmaking, Writing, & 50 Terabytes 01:39:23 EVs & Battery Chemistry 01:41:44 A Robot Dressed as a Car 01:51:05 Waymo & the End of Owning a Car 01:58:28 Zonal Architecture & Cars as Phones 02:04:21 Autonomy Rewrites the Roads 02:13:21 AI Will Design the Systems 02:18:20 Humans Seek Entropy, Machines Seek Order 02:20:53 Caring Is the Highest Leverage

    Reece Martin: Transportation as a Way of Seeing | The Other Stuff #35

  5. Apr 23

    Matthias Wandel & Yacine: The Pleasure of Finding Things Out | The Other Stuff #34

    Matthias Wandel (https://www.youtube.com/@matthiaswandel) is an engineer, woodworker, and YouTuber who runs the most-viewed woodworking channel on YouTube. He was an early employee at Research In Motion, assigned employee number 13. Yacine (https://x.com/yacineMTB) is an engineer building autonomous drones. Both of them are tinkerers, explorers, and builders in their own right. They poke at the world, build and test things for themselves, and develop their own understanding. In this conversation, we traced a single thread through Matthias’s entire life: what happens when you grow up in a place where the only way to have something is to make it yourself, and then never stop. We started in Northern Ontario, in his dad’s workshop on a gravel road where the nearest store was an hour away, and followed that instinct through his first encounters with computers, a Bic-pen dot matrix printer on a Commodore 64, two brothers with two machines in a basement heated by a wood stove, lock picking in the Waterloo service tunnels, and what it means to be a nerd. Matthias and Yacine went back and forth on simplicity vs. ease, what LLMs change about the relationship between understanding and building, and why the probability of code getting reused is inverse to the effort you spend making it reusable. Matthias walked through building the DigiSync barcode reader for the motion picture industry, writing almost all the firmware for RIM’s first wireless modem in DSP assembly, watching BlackBerry’s network traffic flip on 9/11, and what it was like to work alongside Mike Lazaridis. He explained why he left BlackBerry while sales were at their peak and how a bandwidth constraint accidentally made his first viral YouTube video. This is a conversation about constraints that become capability, capability that becomes independence, and independence that becomes something you pass on. The Other Stuff is hosted by internetVin, filmmaker, entrepreneur, and possibly the most curious man on Earth. Produced by New. — Timestamps 00:00:00 Intro 00:02:25 ElectroBoom and Styropyro 00:09:55 Potato Guns and Air Guns 00:23:34 Growing Up in Northern Ontario 00:37:16 First Computers and the Bic Pen Printer 00:43:22 Markus Wandel and the Basement 01:00:19 University of Waterloo 01:03:37 Service Tunnels and Lock Picking 01:10:07 What Is a Nerd? 01:11:34 LLMs and Simplicity vs. Ease 01:31:19 How RIM Started 01:44:01 Building the Wireless Modem 01:58:43 Reusability and Optionality 02:14:13 The BlackBerry Pager 02:33:50 BlackBerry and 9/11 02:48:13 Lazaridis and Balsillie 03:05:28 The YouTube Channel 03:26:01 The Capacitance Sensor 03:42:41 Passing It On — The Other Stuff Podcast: ⁠https://⁠⁠otherstuffpod.com⁠  YouTube: ⁠youtube.com/playlist?list=PLK0osV4LBB6zLfDk-KDV9FtDg7y0bJ3AW⁠ Spotify: ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/1kImmU1R1DYTeM1AKZRWkx?si=2feeadb93ad4419f⁠ Apple: ⁠https://⁠⁠podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-other-stuff-with-internetvin/id1828762531⁠ Twitter: ⁠https://⁠⁠x.com/otherstuffpod⁠ Instagram: ⁠https://⁠⁠instagram.com/otherstuffpod⁠ internetVin ⁠ ⁠https://⁠⁠x.com/internetvin⁠ New ⁠https://⁠⁠x.com/newsystems_⁠ ⁠https://⁠⁠instagram.com/newsystems_

    Matthias Wandel & Yacine: The Pleasure of Finding Things Out | The Other Stuff #34

  6. Mar 25

    HudZah: The Collapse of Permission Structures | The Other Stuff #33

    HudZah (https://x.com/hud_zah) is someone exploring what it means, and what it takes, to operate at the edge of what is possible. In this conversation, we traced HudZah's path from Riyadh to Sri Lanka to Waterloo. A childhood split across three countries, shaped by rationed wifi, a single HP desktop, and the discovery that what you build on a computer can change the world around you. We talked about coding HTML on Notepad at ten, building soundboard apps that funded his own move to Canada, and what it's like to grow up in a place with no permits, no regulators, and no one telling you what you can't do. We explored the birth of esports through Half-Life mods, the machines behind the food we love, and a baklava maker in San Francisco whose irrational pursuit of quality you can taste in a single bite. We discussed how AI is collapsing the walls between disciplines, what that does to the identities we built around expertise, and why individual agency might be the only variable that matters now. This is a conversation about curiosity, permission, and what happens when the cost of crossing boundaries drops to zero. The Other Stuff is hosted by internetVin⁠, filmmaker, entrepreneur, and possibly the most curious man on Earth. Produced by New. — Timestamps 00:00:00 Introduction 00:03:38 Growing Up in Riyadh 00:05:59 Saudi Shawarma and Broasted Chicken 00:16:39 School in Saudi Arabia 00:21:48 The HP Desktop and First Lines of Code 00:25:55 YouTube Rabbit Holes and Gaming 00:45:35 The Birth of Esports 01:02:43 Valve's Employee Handbook 01:05:12 Indie Games and Pure Pursuit 01:06:05 Stardew Valley and ConcernedApe 01:07:03 Moving to Sri Lanka 01:10:34 SnapAPaper and Seeing Real Users 01:13:47 Soundboards, Shopify, and Funding the Move 01:27:38 Landing in Canada at 17 01:36:25 AI and Collapsing the Distance Between Disciplines 01:47:02 Identity, Expertise, and Permission Structures 02:00:32 The Baklava Maker in San Francisco 02:18:26 Machines Behind the Food We Love 02:36:02 Frederic Tudor and the Ice King 02:42:29 HudZah Flips the Interview 02:49:05 Being a Parent — The Other Stuff Podcast: https://otherstuffpod.com  YouTube: youtube.com/playlist?list=PLK0osV4LBB6zLfDk-KDV9FtDg7y0bJ3AW Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1kImmU1R1DYTeM1AKZRWkx?si=2feeadb93ad4419f Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-other-stuff-with-internetvin/id1828762531 Twitter: https://x.com/otherstuffpod Instagram: https://instagram.com/otherstuffpod internetVin ⁠ https://x.com/internetvin New https://x.com/newsystems_ https://instagram.com/newsystems_ The music used during the introduction is "Sitting by the Lake in Zurich" by Sweatson Klank. Available on Bandcamp: https://sweatsonklank.bandcamp.com/track/sitting-by-the-lake-in-zurich

    HudZah: The Collapse of Permission Structures | The Other Stuff #33

  7. Mar 11

    Falcon: A Romance of Many Dimensions | The Other Stuff #32

    Ahmed Saleh, Steven Yuen, and Gabriel O’Flaherty-Chan of Falcon (https://falcon.so/). Falcon is a new design tool for curious designers. Their team is based in the West End of Toronto. In this episode, we explored the games, tools, and software that shaped each of us growing up, from Doom and Zelda to Macromedia Flash and KidPix, and how those early experiences rewired our understanding of what computers could be. We discussed Falcon’s approach to building creative tools: the idea that anything can be anything if you expose the right primitives, the concept of mutation as a design principle, and why the beginning of the creative process deserves far more attention than the optimization at the end. Along the way, Gabe walked us through ray tracing from first principles, demonstrated geometry nodes in Blender, and showed how Falcon can turn math into fire, visuals into audio, and signals into whatever you want them to be. We talked about why most design tools today are built around optimization rather than expression, the false thesis of simplicity, and how the dimensions of the tools we inherit quietly become the boundaries of what we think is possible. This is a conversation about software, self-expression, and how the tools we use shape the world we live in. The Other Stuff is hosted by internetVin⁠, filmmaker and entrepreneur and possibly the most curious man on Earth. Produced by New. — Timestamps 00:00:00 Intro 00:01:42 Doom and id Software 00:16:14 Open World Games 00:36:05 Ray Tracing 00:45:14 Blender Demo 00:50:07 Early Web 00:56:20 Macromedia Flash Era 01:00:34 2Advanced 01:10:52 KidPix and Expressive Tools 01:21:03 Mutations in Design Tooling 01:30:41 Node Editors and Falcon 01:44:45 AI and Creative Tools 01:49:59 Craftsmanship and Intent 02:00:50 Worldview Over Technology 02:09:03 Making Fire with Math 02:17:28 Information Density 02:28:40 Flatland: A Romance of Many Dimensions — The Other Stuff Podcast: https://otherstuffpod.com  YouTube: youtube.com/playlist?list=PLK0osV4LBB6zLfDk-KDV9FtDg7y0bJ3AW Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1kImmU1R1DYTeM1AKZRWkx?si=2feeadb93ad4419f Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-other-stuff-with-internetvin/id1828762531 Twitter: https://x.com/otherstuffpod Instagram: https://instagram.com/otherstuffpod internetVin ⁠ https://x.com/internetvin New https://x.com/newsystems_ https://instagram.com/newsystems_

    Falcon: A Romance of Many Dimensions | The Other Stuff #32

  8. Feb 11

    Tommy Trinh: Unveiling The Now | The Other Stuff #31

    Tommy Trinh (https://tommytrinh.me/) is a co-founder of New. In this episode, we explored Stewart Brand's pace layering diagram and the slow-moving forces underneath everything – culture, myths, values, and the narrative structures that have been recurring throughout the history of humankind. We kept finding the Epic of Gilgamesh in places we didn't expect: anime, wrestling, video games. From there we traced the evolution of games as a medium, from early first-person shooters to souls-like difficulty to simulators to AI-generated worlds, and what each genre reveals about why people play. The last stretch of the conversation was about something harder to name. We shared how things have started to feel uninspiring, how it feels like we're in a state of limbo between how the world used to work and whatever comes next. The meta is too visible, media feels formulaic, and the thresholds that used to structure our sense of what's possible have quietly dissolved. What is even unknown anymore when an LLM can explain anything? Does the value of direct experience go up as the baseline of what's virtually accessible rises? What are the new thresholds? How do you posture yourself within a shift you can feel but can't fully articulate? This is a conversation about the stories we keep telling, the games we keep playing, and what becomes worth pursuing when the map has been filled in. The Other Stuff is hosted by internetVin⁠, filmmaker and entrepreneur and possibly the most curious man on Earth. Produced by New. — Timestamps 00:00:00 Introduction00:02:23 Pace Layering & Myths00:15:13 The Epic of Gilgamesh00:25:46 GoldenEye & id Software00:41:48 The Neo Geo00:57:38 NBA Jam & Def Jam01:02:13 Wrestling is Anime01:19:53 Souls-like01:30:38 Simulators & Realism01:47:28 AI in Games02:05:48 Death Stranding & Kojima02:15:40 Yellowknife02:32:03 Searching for New Frames02:52:00 Baselines & Thresholds03:01:15 Frequency, Intensity, & Speed03:06:38 Nostalgia & Primitive Technology — The Other Stuff Podcast: https://otherstuffpod.com  YouTube: youtube.com/playlist?list=PLK0osV4LBB6zLfDk-KDV9FtDg7y0bJ3AW Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1kImmU1R1DYTeM1AKZRWkx?si=2feeadb93ad4419f Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-other-stuff-with-internetvin/id1828762531 Twitter: https://x.com/otherstuffpod Instagram: https://instagram.com/otherstuffpod internetVin ⁠ https://x.com/internetvin New https://x.com/newsystems_ https://instagram.com/newsystems_

    Tommy Trinh: Unveiling The Now | The Other Stuff #31
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A show where we surf the internet with our friends. The Other Stuff is hosted by internetVin (x.com/internetvin) — filmmaker, entrepreneur and possibly the most curious man on Earth. This show is created by New (x.com/newsystems_)

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