Coastlines to Cranes

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Coastlines to Cranes is your 15-minute midweek chaos cure, hosted by ABC San Diego CEO Shandon Harbour. She’s dishing out unfiltered takes on construction, politics, and apprentice glory—sprinkled with sass, laughs, and zero corporate snooze. Drops Wednesdays at 6 a.m. Buckle up (or don’t).

  1. Oct 14

    Ep. 47: The Truth About Gen Z Work Ethic in Construction

    Is Gen Z work ethic really the problem, or is it how the construction industry leads its newest workers? ABC San Diego CEO Shandon Harbour takes on one of the most common complaints she hears from contractors: young workers who show up unprepared and expect a promotion after 90 days. Drawing on her own experience as a Gen X leader, Shandon looks at how expectations around hours, flexibility, and accountability have shifted across generations, and what leaders owe the people they hire. With October marking Careers in Construction Month, it’s a timely question for every contractor bringing the next generation into the trades. Key Takeaways The question Shandon puts back on every contractor who says young workers have no work ethicWhat one job interview about vacation time reveals about generational expectationsWhere flexibility ends, accountability begins, and who is responsible for drawing that lineResources: Learn more about ABC San Diego: ⁠⁠abcsd.org⁠⁠ ABCSD Apprenticeship & Craft Training Program: ⁠⁠Learn More⁠⁠ Want to ask Shandon a question or suggest a future topic? Connect with Shandon on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow ABC San Diego on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠X⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠

  2. Sep 30

    Ep. 46: College vs the Trades: Two Career Paths at 22 ft. Trent & Mac

    College vs the trades is one of the biggest decisions a young person makes, and this episode puts both paths side by side in real time. Host Shandon Harbour sits down with two 22-year-old roommates born six weeks apart. Trent Harbour is a recent San Diego State business graduate searching for his first job. Mac Hamlin is a former server who went looking for a career and found it in ABC San Diego's electrical apprenticeship program. One wakes up at 3:30 a.m. for the jobsite. The other starts his day with LinkedIn and a stack of applications. This is the first chapter of their story, and we'll keep following both paths. Key Takeaways: Why working alongside college grads at a restaurant made Mac rethink his plansThe part of electrical work nobody mentions when you sign upWhy a great interview can still end in silence, and what Trent is doing about it Resources: Learn more about ABC San Diego: ⁠abcsd.org⁠ ABCSD Apprenticeship & Craft Training Program: ⁠Learn More⁠ Want to ask Shandon a question or suggest a future topic? Connect with Shandon on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow ABC San Diego on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠X⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠

  3. Sep 16

    Ep. 45: The Truth About Multi-Skilling and the Merit Shop

    Multi-skilling, or cross-training, is finally getting a serious research treatment, and the early findings should interest any contractor who has ever watched a project schedule slip while one trade waited on another. Shandon Harbour breaks down what cross-training a construction workforce actually does to productivity, employee engagement, and safety, drawing on a new multi-university study commissioned at the national level. She also makes the case for the merit shop itself, a model built on rewarding attitude, effort, and performance rather than time served, and the career path it can open from apprentice to journeyman to business owner. Key Takeaways What happens to a project schedule when one trade has to stop and wait on anotherThe reason strong performers quietly leave companies that reward everyone the same wayA finding in the new multi-skilling research that has nothing to do with productivity Resources: Learn more about ABC San Diego: abcsd.org ABCSD Apprenticeship & Craft Training Program: Learn More ABC National & SIMPLAR Report - Multiskilling in the Construction Industry: View Report Want to ask Shandon a question or suggest a future topic? Connect with Shandon on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow ABC San Diego on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠X⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠

  4. Sep 2

    Ep. 44: Succession Planning for Contractors ft. Kevin Hartnett

    Construction business succession planning is one of the hardest things a contractor will ever take on, and most owners start far too late. Kevin Hartnett came up through the electrical trade, founded Laser Electric in 1987, and years later sold the company to his son through a plan that took half a decade to build. He joins Shandon Harbour to talk about what it really takes to exit a contracting business well, why the right advisors matter more than most owners realize, and how helping launch ABC San Diego's electrical apprenticeship program became the work he is proudest of. Key Takeaways Why one advisor warned him that getting into business is the easy partThe conversation a founder needs to have years before a handoff, not monthsWhat a business owner learns about legacy from the apprentices he never stopped showing up for Resources: Watch this episode on YouTube Work with Laser Electric: laserelectric.com Learn more about ABC San Diego's apprenticeship program at ⁠⁠⁠⁠ABCSD.org⁠⁠⁠⁠. Want to ask Shandon a question or suggest a future topic? Connect with Shandon on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow ABC San Diego on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠X⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠

  5. Aug 19

    Ep. 43: The Truth About Leading Construction Through COVID

    Construction leadership during COVID meant making calls with no playbook and no guarantee they would hold up later. In this episode, Shandon Harbour looks back at the years when construction was declared essential work, apprenticeship labs moved into tents in the back parking lot, and ABC San Diego staff kept coming into the office while much of the region shut down. The recent Fauci hearings brought it all back, including an essential worker letter from April 2020 that is still sitting in her glove box today. She revisits how those calls got made, who was carrying the risk, and what held the team together when the guidance changed by the afternoon. Key Takeaways Why one letter in a glove box still marks the moment everything changedThe decision that had her heart pounding in her chest, and the reasoning behind itWhat kept one team steady while others struggled through the isolation Resources: Explore ABC San Diego contractor resources at ⁠⁠⁠⁠ABCSD.org⁠⁠⁠⁠. Want to ask Shandon a question or suggest a future topic? Connect with Shandon on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow ABC San Diego on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠X⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠

  6. Aug 5

    Ep. 42: Why Contractors Need a Strong Second in Command ft. Earl the Pearl

    Most small to mid-sized construction businesses can only grow so far before the owner becomes the bottleneck. Leadership at that point is less about slogans and more about who can carry the load when the owner is away. Earl the Pearl returns for a third appearance to talk about building a second in command that you can actually rely on. A retired Marine Corps colonel and former commanding officer of MAG-11, he and Shandon dig into why polished leadership advice rarely holds up on a jobsite, and why the lead and wingman roles have to shift depending on the situation. Key Takeaways The question a business owner should ask themselves when handing off the reins feels impossibleWhy a 57-slide leadership presentation can be technically correct and still useless on your jobsiteWhat a Top Gun flight in 1981 revealed only after the airplane was back on the ground Resources: SDMAC Achievement Awards, August 29: Register Here San Diego Military Advisory Council (SDMAC): sdmac.org Marine Corps Aviation Association (MCAA): flymcaa.org Explore ABC San Diego contractor resources at ⁠⁠⁠ABCSD.org⁠⁠⁠. Want to ask Shandon a question or suggest a future topic? Connect with Shandon on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow ABC San Diego on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠X⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠

  7. Jun 10

    Building an Audience in a Crowded Market: Marketing Lessons from the Creator Economy

    How do you stand out as a business when everyone is creating content? In this episode, Shandon sits down with Andre Elias and Luis Arteaga from Signature Sound Studio for a conversation that starts in the music world but quickly becomes a bigger discussion about marketing, brand building, and audience connection. Andre and Luis share what they have seen from artists trying to grow in a crowded market, including why simply creating something is no longer enough. Today, the real work is building a community around your brand, knowing your audience, creating content that feels authentic, and finding ways to connect directly with the people you serve. For ABC San Diego members, the takeaway is highly relevant: whether you are a contractor, supplier, service provider, or industry leader, your business needs to be visible, relatable, and adaptable. The tools may change, but the marketing fundamentals remain the same. Key takeaways: The audience-building shift every business should understand before posting more content.Why “being good at what you do” is no longer enough to stand out in a crowded market.The marketing lesson from creators that contractors, suppliers, and service providers can use right now.Resources: Learn more about Signature Sound Studio: https://signaturesound.com/ Want to ask Shandon a question or suggest a future Coastlines to Cranes topic? Connect with Shandon on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Explore ABC San Diego contractor resources at ⁠ABCSD.org⁠. Follow ABC San Diego on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠X⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠

  8. Jun 3

    What Contractors Should Know About Taxes & Public Spending with Mark Kersey

    Taxes, property tax discussions, public spending, and local government budgets can all have a direct impact on contractors, businesses, infrastructure, and the future of San Diego’s construction economy. In this episode, host Shandon Harbour talks with Mark Kersey, President & CEO of the San Diego County Taxpayers Association and former San Diego City Councilmember, about taxpayer accountability, government spending, local budgets, and why contractors should pay attention to public policy. Mark shares how the Taxpayers Association reviews tax measures, bond measures, and city and county budgets through a nonpartisan, pro-taxpayer lens. He also explains why transparency, efficiency, and a careful look at how taxpayer dollars are spent matter for businesses, communities, and public infrastructure. Key Takeaways The question Mark Kersey believes every taxpayer should ask before supporting new taxes or public funding measures.Taxes and public spending decisions can affect contractors, businesses, infrastructure, and project delivery more than most people realize.How decisions made in city halls, county offices, and on local ballots can quietly shape the future of business and construction in San Diego.Resources: Learn more about the San Diego County Taxpayers Association: https://www.sdcta.org/ Want to ask Shandon a question or suggest a future Coastlines to Cranes topic? Connect with Shandon on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Explore ABC San Diego contractor resources at ABCSD.org. Follow ABC San Diego on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠X⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠

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Coastlines to Cranes is your 15-minute midweek chaos cure, hosted by ABC San Diego CEO Shandon Harbour. She’s dishing out unfiltered takes on construction, politics, and apprentice glory—sprinkled with sass, laughs, and zero corporate snooze. Drops Wednesdays at 6 a.m. Buckle up (or don’t).

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  • Creator
    ABC San Diego
  • Years Active
    2025 - 2026
  • Episodes
    47
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