In this episode, Steph is joined by Leila Kelly, the podcast’s new co-host, to explore how we understand and respond to harm in relationships. Drawing on Leila’s experience in trauma-informed care and systems-level work, Leila and Steph unpack the gaps between policy and practice, the limitations of relying on law enforcement and formal systems, and the complexities of responding to domestic violence across different communities and jurisdictions. Together, they explore what it means to hold nuance, center human dignity, and expand our vision of anti-violence work beyond traditional systems to include the communities and relationships that can help create lasting safety. Guest Bio Leila Kelly, BAIS (Bachelors of Arts in Integrated Studies), LCSW, is the founder of Domestic Violence Specialists, LLC, a Santa Fe-based consultative practice dedicated to transforming how we understand and respond to harm in relationships. With over a decade of experience in trauma-informed care and systems-level work across diverse roles, Leila established this practice to bridge the gap between individual healing and systemic transformation. Her approach is rooted in an interdisciplinary background in psychology, criminal justice, and sociology, and shaped by clinical training in social work. Leila brings a relational lens that honors both the roots and the reach of violence. As both a strategist and therapist, she weaves together public health frameworks, trauma theory, and evidence-based practices to move beyond reactive responses and toward relational approaches that prevent and interrupt harm. Her work collaborates with public agencies, community organizations, and individuals to create responses to harm that move beyond the traditional. Grounded in intersectional values and human rights principles, Leila’s work centers dignity, complexity, and community care as the foundation for lasting safety. More from the We Deserve Better Project * We Deserve Better Project website * Get Involved with the WDBP If you’re interested in being a guest on the podcast to share your experiences in the anti-violence field and/or your visions for a better future, email wedeservebetterproject@gmail.com with the subject line, “Podcast Guest” Did this episode inspire you to donate to continue the work of the We Deserve Better Project? When you give to the We Deserve Better Project, you’re fueling a movement for worker rights and survivor justice. Your support keeps our website alive, helps us share our vision through outreach materials, and provides the tools we need to connect with more anti-violence workers. Show Credits Co-Host: Steph Klotz Guest/Co-Host: Leila Kelly Producers: We Deserve Better Project team Editor: Steph Klotz Graphic Designers: Merlin Paton-Usry & Jackie Strohm Social Media Manager: Jackie Strohm Music: Breathe In by Sappheiros This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit wedeservebetterproject.substack.com
