This episode explores NaturalReasoning, a Meta and NYU dataset of 2.8 million reasoning questions built to break the bottleneck facing today's verifiable-reward training methods, which only work in domains like math and code where answers can be checked automatically. The discussion traces the technique's lineage from 2016 machine-translation backtranslation through Meta's 2023 instruction-backtranslation work, explaining how the team flags reasoning-rich passages in pretraining corpora and has a strong model work backward to invent the question a given passage would answer — spanning physics, economics, and social science, not just checkable benchmarks. It covers how the resulting question set is used both for straightforward distillation from a teacher model and for a self-rewarding setup where one model generates, verifies, and judges its own answers without external reward models or human labels. Listeners interested in how reasoning-focused LLM training might scale past math and code, and in the mechanics of synthetic data generation via backtranslation, will find the paper's structural argument — rethinking where training data comes from rather than just scaling it — a useful frame for where the field goes next. Sources: 1. NaturalReasoning: Reasoning in the Wild with 2.8M Challenging Questions — Weizhe Yuan, Jane Yu, Song Jiang, Karthik Padthe, Yang Li, Ilia Kulikov, Kyunghyun Cho, Dong Wang, Yuandong Tian, Jason E Weston, Xian Li, 2025 http://arxiv.org/abs/2502.13124 2. Self-Alignment with Instruction Backtranslation — Xian Li, Ping Yu, Chunting Zhou, Timo Schick, Luke Zettlemoyer, Jason Weston, Mike Lewis (Meta AI), 2023 https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=Self-Alignment+with+Instruction+Backtranslation 3. MAmmoTH2: Scaling Instructions from the Web — Xiang Yue, Tuney Zheng, Ge Zhang, Wenhu Chen, 2024 https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=MAmmoTH2%3A+Scaling+Instructions+from+the+Web 4. Improving Neural Machine Translation Models with Monolingual Data — Rico Sennrich, Barry Haddow, Alexandra Birch, 2016 https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=Improving+Neural+Machine+Translation+Models+with+Monolingual+Data 5. LongForm: Optimizing Instruction Tuning for Long Text Generation with Corpus Extraction — Abdullatif Köksal, Timo Schick, Anna Korhonen, Hinrich Schütze, 2023 https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=LongForm%3A+Optimizing+Instruction+Tuning+for+Long+Text+Generation+with+Corpus+Extraction 6. Self-Rewarding Language Models — Weizhe Yuan, Richard Yuanzhe Pang, Kyunghyun Cho, Sainbayar Sukhbaatar, Jing Xu, Jason Weston, 2024 https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=Self-Rewarding+Language+Models 7. Constitutional AI: Harmlessness from AI Feedback — Yuntao Bai, Saurav Kadavath, Sandipan Kundu, et al. (Anthropic), 2022 https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=Constitutional+AI%3A+Harmlessness+from+AI+Feedback 8. RLAIF: Scaling Reinforcement Learning from Human Feedback with AI Feedback — Harrison Lee, Samrat Phatale, Hassan Mansoor, et al. (Google), 2023 https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=RLAIF%3A+Scaling+Reinforcement+Learning+from+Human+Feedback+with+AI+Feedback 9. Judging LLM-as-a-Judge with MT-Bench and Chatbot Arena — Lianmin Zheng, Wei-Lin Chiang, Ying Sheng, et al. (UC Berkeley / LMSYS), 2023 https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=Judging+LLM-as-a-Judge+with+MT-Bench+and+Chatbot+Arena 10. MAmmoTH2: Scaling Instructions from the Web (WebInstruct) — Xiang Yue, Tuney Zheng, Ge Zhang, Wenhu Chen, 2024 https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=MAmmoTH2%3A+Scaling+Instructions+from+the+Web+%28WebInstruct%29 11. STaR: Bootstrapping Reasoning with Reasoning — Eric Zelikman, Yuhuai Wu, Jesse Mu, Noah Goodman, 2022 https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=STaR%3A+Bootstrapping+Reasoning+with+Reasoning 12. Let's Verify Step by Step — Hunter Lightman, Vineet Kosaraju, Yura Burda, Harri Edwards, Bowen Baker, Teddy Lee, Jan Leike, John Schulman, Ilya Sutskever, Karl Cobbe, 2023 https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=Let%27s+Verify+Step+by+Step 13. OpenThoughts: Data Recipes for Reasoning Models — Etash Guha, Ryan Marten, Sedrick Keh, et al., 2025 https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=OpenThoughts%3A+Data+Recipes+for+Reasoning+Models Interactive Visualization: NaturalReasoning: Backtranslating Reasoning Questions at Scale