The Chismosa Chat

Claire Bough and Karla Georges

The Chismosa Chat is a podcast brought to you by Claire Bough and Karla Georges, two chismosas who got tired of keeping their conversations to themselves. It’s a deep dive into the shocking news that you’re already talking about, with the hot takes that maybe you were only saying in your head. Join our chat as we cover American society and current events in the way we know best: being nosy AF. thechismosachat.substack.com

Episodes

  1. Chismeando in War Time

    Apr 29

    Chismeando in War Time

    This episode was recorded on Monday, April 13 Join us for a catch-up on the US-Israeli war in Iran as we talk about how the already-shifting global order has been impacted even more, how people are finally waking up from cult-like behavior, and what we think will happen next. Even though we recorded this episode a few weeks ago, it’s still relevant to the latest dynamics we’re dealing with. Other than the fact that the U.S. is STILL being led by a pedophilic narcissist who is unfit for the role, this war in Iran has had immediate consequences across the globe. More than a month in, the US has lost an inexplicable amount of military equipment and more than 13 trillion-dollar military bases have been destroyed. Trump overplayed his hand messing with Netanyahu, who never had anything to lose. Netanyahu is on trial in Israel and would rather rage war against any population than face the music of his crimes. While the war criminals continue to bomb children, the world order is reshaping itself in a surprisingly quick manner. Iran now has unparalleled control of the Strait of Hormuz, granting the country unprecedented control of over 20% of the world’s oil supply. Russia ensured that Cuba received oil to save Cubans from the US blockade that shut off power all over the island. China has supplied oil to the Philippines, and has said that oil shipments may stop if Manila hosts military drills with the US. The world is exhausted with the Western world order, which we’ve known for a while now. If you enjoyed this episode, give us a rating on Spotify or Apple Podcasts! The Chismosa Chat is a podcast brought to you by Claire Bough and Karla Georges, two chismosas who got tired of keeping their conversations to themselves. It’s a deep dive into the shocking news that you’re already talking about, with the hot takes that maybe you were only saying in your head. Join our chat as we cover American society and current events in the way we know best: being nosy AF. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thechismosachat.substack.com

    55 min
  2. The West is Not Your Savior: Part 2

    Feb 28

    The West is Not Your Savior: Part 2

    *This episode was taped and written in September of 2025. Trump’s tariffs might have recently been ruled unconstitutional, but the damage is already done. In our last episode (part one), we talked about how the U.S. established Western dominance for decades, only for Trump and his policies to accelerate a decline in alliances, soft power, and overall allegiance. Now, we’re diving deeper into what other countries are doing in the East and Global South to take back some independence within their economies. Though China doesn’t represent the entirety of this shift, it is gaining the upper hand in terms of infrastructure and developing stronger supply chains throughout southeast Asia. While the U.S. still owns a vast majority of the world’s wealth, China is starting to take advantage of new opportunities and establish dominance in the East. It’s not just because of the tariffs, though those did play a role. Trump’s latest presidency has also already served to alienate our allies (e.g. the EU, Canada, and Ukraine), and damage our image on the international stage. And just as U.S.-backed global policy has led to mass exploitation and under-development in the Global South, the world is now seeing the same conditions rampantly accelerate in the U.S–rising crime and mass shootings, civilian murders, mental health and opioid crises, inaccessible health care, and the list goes on. More and more countries are exploring BRICS and BRI as viable alternatives to the Western neocolonial economic system and U.S. sanctions. They’re also exploring how to move away from U.S. dollar dominance, even setting up their own systems to move away from SWIFT and the IMF, which would enable trade in local currencies and an end to borrowing against U.S. debt. The U.S. and the West have assumed for decades that its liberal democratic model is universal, and you know what happens when you assume. Now, the Global South is increasingly inspired by China’s state-led development and BRICS’ non-interventionist ethos. It’s undeniable that there are limits to Western Capitalism, and we’re increasingly pushing up against those limits. Unregulated growth will have an end point, whether it’s because the environment can’t sustain it or the workers cannot. BRICS+ are strategically positioned to reshape global power dynamics on a variety of factors: * Energy * Trade * Natural resources * Monetary sovereignty * Technology & development While the West still holds legacy power, the East has momentum, and the South has opportunity. Thanks for reading The Chismosa Chat! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support our work. Sources Because this episode was researched and recorded in September 2025, some of our sources slipped through the cracks between outlining and editing, and we’ve included some titles below from our notes without links. * The China vs. US battle for influence in Southeast Asia * China’s financial rise and America’s economic strain If you enjoyed this episode, give us a rating on Spotify or Apple Podcasts! The Chismosa Chat is a podcast brought to you by Claire Bough and Karla Georges, two chismosas who got tired of keeping their conversations to themselves. It’s a deep dive into the shocking news that you’re already talking about, with the hot takes that maybe you were only saying in your head. Join our chat as we cover American society and current events in the way we know best: being nosy AF. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thechismosachat.substack.com

    1h 8m
  3. The Real Chisme #1

    Jan 25

    The Real Chisme #1

    We’ve been getting some feedback that our name is misleading (Hi, Cami!) because we focus more on news and society instead of actual, personal chisme. Even though we try to start off each episode with what’s going on in our lives, we realize that might not be enough for you nosy bitches. So, we’re kicking off our Real Chisme series. Every few episodes, we’ll dedicate our time to laying out some of the juiciest, funniest chisme we have. It might be stories from years ago, or it might be things that happened more recently. No names, just the craziest things we’ve experienced. For our first episode, Karla is taking us back to a chaotic, months-long falling out with a former friend, which included accidentally being recruited for an orgy, a night spent with some random Aussies, and a lot of yelling. Then, Claire is reminiscing on the time she chased a man through the streets of San Francisco and maybe threatened his life after he racially profiled her. If you’re tired of tuning into the news (it’s so bleak out there) and hearing about what sucks in the U.S., this episode is for you. We hope our chaotic experiences help you unplug, laugh a little, and thank God that you’re not us. Enjoy! If you enjoyed this episode, give us a rating on Spotify or Apple Podcasts! The Chismosa Chat is a podcast brought to you by Claire Bough and Karla Georges, two chismosas who got tired of keeping their conversations to themselves. It’s a deep dive into the shocking news that you’re already talking about, with the hot takes that maybe you were only saying in your head. Join our chat as we cover American society and current events in the way we know best: being nosy AF. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thechismosachat.substack.com

    1h 22m
  4. Catfished by The Democrats

    10/15/2025

    Catfished by The Democrats

    As Democrats, conversations with Republicans can be pointless at best, and at worst, so aggravating that it makes you want to pull your hair out. These days, finding common ground is becoming harder and harder. We’ve already covered some of the ways that Republicans and the alt-right have ensured this–from the rise of MAGA to specifically targeting men and preying on their insecurities. But it’s time to shed some light on the Democratic establishment, too. Unfortunately, they haven’t exactly been a strong opposing force–often reinforcing the very policies that helped pave the way for Trump and the MAGA bros. The right, the center, and everyone else To level-set, it’s important to realize that American politics as a whole swings toward the right. Our parties aren’t neatly separated by progressive and conservative. Instead, we’ve been dealing with an increasingly far-right, populist party, and a centrist (even slightly right), neoliberal party. When we’re talking about American politics, there are also some key terms to keep in mind: * Populism: Speaking to the general population in a way that frames them against a more powerful group. * Neoliberalism: Economic ideology that prioritizes free markets above all and global human rights intervention at the government level. * Socialism: A government that prioritizes collectivism and ensures its people own and control the means of production. Why do these definitions matter in this context? Let’s take a quick walk through the recent history of the Democratic party. Across party lines, our society tends to fear the term “socialism,” but we’ve had successful socialist policies passed before that we still use to this day. Think Medicare, Medicaid, and social security. At key moments throughout U.S. history it’s been clear that policies like these, which prioritize workers and offer greater social safety nets, have been successful. But, the modern Democratic party refuses to acknowledge this fact and leverage similar policies to fight against growing right populist extremism. Zohran Mamdani and his Democratic mayoral campaign in New York is a great example. After building a grassroots coalition that even captured the votes of white men, the Democratic Party has still refused to endorse him. His policies are just “too socialist.” We saw the same story unfold in 2016 and 2020 with Bernie Sanders’ presidential campaigns as well. Time and time again, the Democratic party has proven that it aligns with establishment, neoliberal figures who are white, wealthy, and educated–not those who represent the average American. In fact, policy from Democratic presidents in the past several decades further highlights this. We have Jimmy Carter in the ‘70s who deregulated air travel, trucking, and railroads–decisions that directly limited access to rural communities. In the ‘90s, Bill Clinton repealed the Glass-Steagall act, which was one variable that helped eventually bring about the Great Recession. Obama notoriously bailed out the banks during the Great Recession and chose to expand privatized health care instead of pushing a public option forward. These examples further highlight Democratic leaders’ ongoing decisions to prioritize neoliberalism and profit over people. Why appealing to identity politics falls short Democrats have also started to become more and more untrustworthy to many Americans because of their appeal to identity politics instead of focusing on substantive policy. When everyday costs continue to rise and wages stagnant for decades, people succumb to fear and scapegoating. They’re eager to point the finger at whoever they can–immigrants, transgender people, feminists, universities, and anyone who isn’t like them. As Trump and the alt-right have adopted a strategy to push that type of scapegoating, Democrats remain several steps behind. Not only are they coming up short in terms of policy, but their messaging is even more focused on surface-level inclusivity. It’s not to say that inclusivity isn’t important, but when it isn’t backed by policy, it’s all too easy for their opponents to tear it apart. The alienation of the working class At the end of the day, we’re left with two parties that end up mirroring each other. Both parties alienate the working class in terms of policy, but only one continues to alienate them in terms of their marketing and communications. While the Democratic party used to align itself with the working class, the evidence for that has grown thinner and thinner. It is now seen as the party of rich, college-educated, white elites. Meanwhile, the party continues to bulldoze past the fact that the majority of the U.S. does not fit into this demographic: non-college educated voters make up 57% of the electorate, with 60% in swing states. The Democrats have even managed to lose votes from Black and Latino men because of this alienation. More and more, people are voting purely based on their economic realities–they care about how much their groceries cost, not which members of congress are celebrating Pride or implementing DEI. This sentiment is increasingly reflected in public performance: 27% of registered voters had a positive view of the Democratic Party in 2024, and that was the lowest rating since 1990. The approval ratings for Democrats in Congress are also consistently below 50%. So, what now? There’s an active debate going on about what the Democrats can do moving forward. Some say it’s changing the Democratic agenda and communications to make it even more moderate, with policy proposals to match with broader deregulation. Many even say that it’s time to reach across the aisle and begin to compromise more, but others agree that you cannot compromise with fascism. We’re just two chismosas, and we don’t have all the answers, but we agree that we need two things–policy that focuses on greater economic security for all Americans, and an active movement to rediscover what we all love about this country. As for the Democratic party, it’s in desperate need of a reboot. Instead of zooming past half of the country, it’s time to take a step back, educate, and find some way that we can meet in the middle. Sources mentioned * How the Democratic Party Can Win Back the Working Class - Chuck Rocha * The End of the Line: Cuomo, Mamdani, and the Last Warning for the Democratic Party - Jason Egenberg * “We have the lamest opposition in American history.” - J.D. Vance * The 4 working-class votes — Brookings Institution * What today’s working class wants from political leaders — Brookings Institution * Have the Democrats Become the Party of the Élites? — The New Yorker * The Most Important Divide in American Politics — Governing * Class Dealignment Is the Defining Political Challenge of Our Time — Jacobin * Dealignment — Sidecar (New Left Review) * Changing Partisan Coalitions in a Politically Divided Nation — Pew Research Center * Democrats Can Win Back the Working-Class with Economic Populism — Inequality.org * The Age of Class Dealignment — Jacobin * Democrats Must Choose: The Elites or the Working Class — Portside If you enjoyed this episode, give us a rating on Spotify or Apple Podcasts! The Chismosa Chat is a podcast brought to you by Claire Bough and Karla Georges, two chismosas who got tired of keeping their conversations to themselves. It’s a deep dive into the shocking news that you’re already talking about, with the hot takes that maybe you were only saying in your head. Join our chat as we cover American society and current events in the way we know best: being nosy AF. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thechismosachat.substack.com

    1h 25m

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The Chismosa Chat is a podcast brought to you by Claire Bough and Karla Georges, two chismosas who got tired of keeping their conversations to themselves. It’s a deep dive into the shocking news that you’re already talking about, with the hot takes that maybe you were only saying in your head. Join our chat as we cover American society and current events in the way we know best: being nosy AF. thechismosachat.substack.com