Page Break with Rich and Brian

Richard Robertson and Brian Martindale

PageBreak Podcast invites listeners into honest conversations with new authors about their faith, creative process, and publishing journey. Each episode explores the inspiration behind their writing, the challenges they’ve overcome, and the lessons learned along the way. Whether you’re an aspiring author or a book lover, PageBreak offers encouragement, insight, and a behind-the-scenes look at the world of storytelling.

  1. Oct 27

    Are We Making Disciples or Just Converts? | Keith McKay | Page Break Podcast

    What does it really mean to follow Jesus—not just on Sunday, but every day of the week? In this episode of Page Break Podcast, hosts Richard Robertson and Brian Martindale welcome back author Keith McKay for part three of their conversation about his upcoming book, Race to the Kingdom. This time, we're moving beyond theology and into the practical challenges of living out our faith. Has the modern church become better at making converts than making disciples? What does it mean to count the cost of following Jesus in today's world? And how can we move beyond simply knowing about God to genuinely knowing Him? Keith shares some powerful illustrations from his years in athletics, including a fascinating lesson involving a quarter that reveals what it takes to walk the narrow path. In this episode, we discuss: What it means to run the Christian race faithfullyWhy spiritual discipline matters more than natural abilityThe difference between making converts and making disciplesWhat counting the cost looks like for modern ChristiansHow to recognize genuine spiritual growth without becoming judgmentalWhy knowing Jesus personally is more important than simply knowing facts about HimWhether you've been a Christian for decades or you're just beginning your journey of faith, this conversation challenges us to ask an important question: Are we simply attending church, or are we actually following Jesus? 📖 Coming Soon: Race to the Kingdom by Keith McKay 🎙️ Subscribe to Page Break Podcast for more conversations with authors about faith, books, life, and the ideas that challenge us to grow. CHAPTERS 00:00 – Welcome Back, Keith McKay 01:41 – What Does Running the Race Look Like? 04:33 – Talent vs. Discipline in the Christian Life 10:16 – Converts vs. Disciples: Has the Church Lost Its Focus? 16:04 – Counting the Cost of Following Jesus 18:00 – The Coin Illustration: Walking the Narrow Path 23:23 – What Does Genuine Transformation Look Like? 28:22 – The Greatest Obstacle to Following Jesus 30:45 – Knowing Jesus vs. Knowing About Jesus 32:25 – Closing Prayer #PageBreakPodcast #KeithMcKay #RaceToTheKingdom #ChristianDiscipleship #ChristianPodcast #FollowingJesus #Faith

  2. Oct 9

    Is the Gospel About Going to Heaven? The Kingdom of God Explained | Keith McKay

    What if the central message of the gospel is bigger than simply going to heaven when we die? In Part 2 of our conversation with Keith McKay, author of Race to the Kingdom, we dive deep into the biblical story of God's Kingdom, His plan to restore creation, and what it means to understand Scripture as one unified story from Genesis to Revelation. Rich and Brian discuss with Keith why the Kingdom of God is so central to Jesus' message, how the resurrection shapes our understanding of the gospel, and why the restoration of God's creation matters for how Christians live today. IN THIS EPISODE: Is the ultimate goal of Christianity going to heaven or the Kingdom of God?What did Jesus mean when He said the Kingdom of Heaven was at hand?How does reading the Bible as one unified story change our theology?Is the Kingdom of God a present reality, a future promise, or both?Have Christians underestimated the importance of the bodily resurrection?What does God's plan to restore creation mean for how we live today?How can we prepare for Christ's return and faithfully run the race set before us?Keith shares insights from his study of Scripture and explains how understanding the Bible's big-picture narrative can help us see God's original purpose, what was lost, and what He ultimately intends to restore. If you're interested in biblical theology, the Kingdom of God, Christian living, and taking a deeper look at the story of Scripture, this conversation is for you. 📚 ABOUT THE BOOK Keith McKay's book, Race to the Kingdom, explores the biblical narrative and God's purpose for humanity and creation. 🎙️ ABOUT PAGE BREAK PODCAST Page Break is where Rich and Brian talk with authors about their books, their ideas, and the stories behind the pages. 👍 If you enjoyed this conversation, like the video, subscribe to the channel, and share it with someone who would enjoy the discussion. 💬 JOIN THE CONVERSATION: Do you think Christians focus too much on going to heaven and not enough on the Kingdom of God and the resurrection? Let us know your thoughts in the comments! #PageBreakPodcast #KingdomOfGod #BiblicalTheology #ChristianPodcast #RaceToTheKingdom #BibleStudy #KeithMcKay

  3. Aug 20

    Are You Running the Race? | Keith McKay on Race to the Kingdom

    What does it really mean to run the Christian race—and finish it well? On this episode of Page Break with Rich & Brian, we sit down with author Keith McKay to talk about his book, Race to the Kingdom, and the experiences, Scripture, and ideas that inspired it. Keith uses the imagery of an athlete preparing for a race to explore the Christian journey—from the starting line of faith to a life of obedience, perseverance, humility, spiritual growth, and ultimately pursuing the Kingdom of God. We talk with Keith about: • Why he chose a race as the central metaphor for the Christian life • How his background in athletics and coaching influenced the book • Why salvation should be viewed as the beginning of the race rather than the finish line • The difference between simply believing and actively pursuing God's Kingdom • Humility, servant leadership, obedience, and perseverance • Why difficult "wilderness" seasons can become some of our greatest periods of growth • What it means to actually finish the race well • Keith's writing journey and advice for aspiring Christian authors It's a conversation about faith, purpose, endurance, and what happens after we decide to follow Christ. Whether you're an author, a person of faith, or someone trying to figure out what the next lap of your own journey looks like, we think you'll enjoy this conversation. Pick up Race to the Kingdom by Keith McKay and join us for this week's Page Break! #PageBreak #KeithMcKay #RaceToTheKingdom #ChristianBooks #ChristianAuthors #Faith #KingdomOfGod #ChristianPodcast #AuthorInterview

  4. Aug 4

    Turning Jesus' Parables Into One Incredible Story | Interview with Author Deeanna Dettwiler

    What happens when you take every parable Jesus told and weave them together into a single, compelling narrative? In this episode of Page Break, Rich and Brian sit down with author Deeanna Dettwiler to discuss her unique novel, Les Pariablues, a creative retelling of Christ's parables that brings familiar biblical teachings together through one unforgettable story. Deanna shares how she began writing as a teenager, what inspired her love of storytelling, how her faith has shaped her work, and the lessons she's learned throughout the publishing process. From setting writing goals and preserving story ideas to receiving feedback and staying committed to a long-term vision, this conversation is full of encouragement for aspiring authors and readers alike. Whether you're an author, a reader, or someone looking for fresh ways to engage with Scripture, this episode offers thoughtful insight into creativity, faith, and the power of storytelling. In this episode: How Deeanna began writing as a teenagerThe inspiration behind Les PariabluesTurning Jesus' parables into one connected storyBalancing faith, creativity, and everyday lifeAdvice for aspiring writersLessons learned through the publishing processWhat's next for Deeanna's growing body of workIf you enjoy conversations with authors, behind-the-scenes publishing insights, and stories that point people toward Christ, be sure to subscribe to Page Break for more interviews with inspiring writers. Find Deeanna's book: Les Pariablues by Deeanna Dettwiler (available through major online booksellers), also check out her website at rarestonequill.ca 👍 If you enjoyed this episode, please Like, Subscribe, and leave us a comment: Which of Jesus' parables has had the biggest impact on your life? #PageBreakPodcast #ChristianBooks #AuthorInterview #JesusParables #FaithBasedFiction #ChristianAuthor #WritingCommunity #BookPodcast #GenesisPublishingHouse #LesPariabluessubscribe to Page Break for more interviews with inspiring writers. Find Deanna's book: Les Periablas (available through major online booksellers) 👍 If you enjoyed this episode, please Like, Subscribe, and leave us a comment: Which of Jesus' parables has had the biggest impact on your life? #PageBreakPodcast #ChristianBooks #AuthorInterview #JesusParables #FaithBasedFiction #ChristianAuthor #WritingCommunity #BookPodcast #GenesisPublishingHouse #LesPeriablas

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PageBreak Podcast invites listeners into honest conversations with new authors about their faith, creative process, and publishing journey. Each episode explores the inspiration behind their writing, the challenges they’ve overcome, and the lessons learned along the way. Whether you’re an aspiring author or a book lover, PageBreak offers encouragement, insight, and a behind-the-scenes look at the world of storytelling.