Never A Phase Podcast

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Never A Phase Network: Each episode, The Swemo Guy sits down with friends from across the scene to talk about their history with the music we love, as well as the current Hot Topics shaping the future of the genre. We end the show with a lightning round of questions about popular scene debates, band life, food on the road, and more.

  1. 1d ago

    Never A Phase 28: Origami Angel

    Kanan is back with another Never A Phase conversation, this time sitting down with Ryland and Pat of Origami Angel! The duo talks about their latest releases, including two brand-new songs with a very specific Pokémon connection, and how those tracks originally came to life as the theme songs for an epic YouTube video. From there, the conversation gets into the art of writing short songs, whether Origami Angel would ever unleash a ten-minute prog-rock monster, and how playing songs live can completely change the way a band feels about its own music. Ryland also breaks down how Origami Angel balances technical ambition with the most important rule of all: the song has to be fun. The band discusses pushing their sound without losing the groove, why sometimes a song you weren't sure about becomes a live favorite, and how watching a crowd react can give an old song an entirely new meaning. And because this is Origami Angel, there's plenty of discussion about the band's refusal to add a bassist, their love of being a two-piece, the possibility of someday having a full orchestra onstage instead, and the ridiculous amount of Easter eggs hidden throughout their music. Kanan gets the answers to some seriously important questions, including whether anyone has successfully applied to be Origami Angel's bassist and what one of the band's most obscure lyrical references actually means. Never A Phase Network covers emo, pop-punk, punk,hardcore, alternative music, and the culture surrounding the scene. For interviews, reviews, playlists, concert photography,festival coverage, and more:  ⁠www.neveraphasenetwork.com⁠  FollowNeverAPhaseNetwork on social media for exclusive interviews, behind-the-scenescontent, live coverage, and more from the scene. If you enjoyed the episode, subscribe, leave a review,and share it with someone who still thinks Warped Tour was the best thing thatever happened to them. Don’t forget to like and subscribe, leave us a rating anda review. It helps out more than you can realize! Our theme song is “Staythe Same” by Gold Steps CHECK OUT GOLD STEPS AT https://www.goldstepsmusic.com/ This show is brought to you by Eargasm Earplugs! Usethe code EMOTEN to save 10% on Eargasm Earplugs! JOIN OUR DISCORD https://discord.gg/KUSh3qJTd4 The Never A Phase Network is hosted by Swemo Featuring Interviews By:Cameron – Your Elder Emo Mom Kanan Phil Fairbrother Winifred Color

    Never A Phase 28: Origami Angel

  2. 3d ago

    Never A Phase 27: Pedro Aida | The Iron Roses & Shotclock

    Cameron sits down with Pedro Aida of The Iron Roses for a conversation about DIY punk, community, and keeping the music moving on your own terms. Pedro wears a lot of hats in the punk world, from fronting ShotClock and Fire Sale to keeping The Iron Roses busy, but this conversation centers on the band’s new album Molotov Nights, a 10-song, 23-minute record that was made and released completely independently. Pedro talks about why The Iron Roses decided to go 100% DIY, what it means to have a community rally behind a band, and why independent music can still thrive without waiting around for a label to make the next move. Cameron and Pedro also dig into the connection between punk and community, including charity shows, food drives, all-ages events, and the festivals that bring musicians and fans together for something bigger than just another night of music. Plus, we get into early shows for elder emos, pre-show rituals, the importance of fresh socks, Pedro's dream of finally getting The Iron Roses booked at DC's legendary 9:30 Club, and the time he somehow ended up playing with The Ataris while they opened for Blink-182. Never A Phase Network covers emo, pop-punk, punk,hardcore, alternative music, and the culture surrounding the scene. For interviews, reviews, playlists, concert photography,festival coverage, and more:  ⁠www.neveraphasenetwork.com⁠  FollowNeverAPhaseNetwork on social media for exclusive interviews, behind-the-scenescontent, live coverage, and more from the scene. If you enjoyed the episode, subscribe, leave a review,and share it with someone who still thinks Warped Tour was the best thing thatever happened to them. Don’t forget to like and subscribe, leave us a rating anda review. It helps out more than you can realize! Our theme song is “Staythe Same” by Gold Steps CHECK OUT GOLD STEPS AT https://www.goldstepsmusic.com/ This show is brought to you by Eargasm Earplugs! Usethe code EMOTEN to save 10% on Eargasm Earplugs! JOIN OUR DISCORD https://discord.gg/KUSh3qJTd4 The Never A Phase Network is hosted by Swemo Featuring Interviews By:Cameron – Your Elder Emo Mom Kanan Phil Fairbrother Winifred Color

    Never A Phase 27: Pedro Aida | The Iron Roses & Shotclock

  3. Sep 11

    Never A Phase 26: MEGG

    Never A Phase 26: MEGG On this episodeof the Never A Phase Podcast, Swemo is back in the home studio talking to MEGG! Megg lives in the dual worlds of SoCal and Nashville, starting out as a pop girlie, she’s embraced her inner Low Life and is now making pop-punk for the kids not afraid to get a little dirty. We talk about her history in the LA scene, including some famous friends, her time in musical theater, and what it means to be a card carrying member of the Low Life Club.Check out her music at meggmusic.com and wherever you stream music. Never A Phase Network covers emo, pop-punk, punk,hardcore, alternative music, and the culture surrounding the scene. For interviews, reviews, playlists, concert photography,festival coverage, and more:  ⁠www.neveraphasenetwork.com⁠  FollowNeverAPhaseNetwork on social media for exclusive interviews, behind-the-scenescontent, live coverage, and more from the scene. If you enjoyed the episode, subscribe, leave a review,and share it with someone who still thinks Warped Tour was the best thing thatever happened to them. Don’t forget to like and subscribe, leave us a rating anda review. It helps out more than you can realize! Our theme song is “Stay the Same” by Gold Steps CHECK OUT GOLD STEPS AT https://www.goldstepsmusic.com/ This show is brought to you by Eargasm Earplugs! Usethe code EMOTEN to save 10% on Eargasm Earplugs! JOIN OUR DISCORD https://discord.gg/KUSh3qJTd4 The Never A Phase Network is hosted by Swemo Featuring Interviews By:Cameron – Your Elder Emo Mom Kanan Phil Fairbrother Winifred Color

    Never A Phase 26: MEGG

  4. Sep 9

    Never A Phase 25: Vans Warped Tour Montreal /w Good Sleepy & Boston Manor

    Never A Phase goes international at the Vans Warped Tour Montreal! In this episode of Never A Phase, Cameron (your elder emo mom) travels across the border to talk to Good Sleepyand Boston Manor! They talk music, Disney, what was and what wasn’t a phase and more! Never A Phase Network covers emo, pop-punk, punk,hardcore, alternative music, and the culture surrounding the scene. For interviews, reviews, playlists, concert photography,festival coverage, and more:  ⁠www.neveraphasenetwork.com⁠  FollowNeverAPhaseNetwork on social media for exclusive interviews, behind-the-scenescontent, live coverage, and more from the scene. If you enjoyed the episode, subscribe, leave a review,and share it with someone who still thinks Warped Tour was the best thing thatever happened to them. Don’t forget to like and subscribe, leave us a rating anda review. It helps out more than you can realize! Our theme song is “Stay the Same” by Gold Steps CHECK OUT GOLD STEPS AT https://www.goldstepsmusic.com/ This show is brought to you by Eargasm Earplugs! Use the code EMOTEN to save 10% on Eargasm Earplugs! JOIN OUR DISCORD https://discord.gg/KUSh3qJTd4 The Never A Phase Network is hosted by Swemo Featuring Interviews By:Cameron – Your Elder Emo Mom Kanan Phil Fairbrother Winifred Color

    Never A Phase 25: Vans Warped Tour Montreal /w Good Sleepy & Boston Manor

  5. Sep 2

    Never A Phase 24: Mike Lin at Warped Tour with Initiate & Water Tower

    Never A Phase Network heads back to Vans Warped Tour Long Beach 2026 as Mike Lin talks to two great bands from this year's Warped Tour! Mike is a Warped Tour lifer and former pit photographer, bringing a unique perspective to the conversation from someone who has spent years experiencing the scene from both inside and outside the barricade.First, Mike and Initiate talk about hardcore music, the dichotomy of love and rage, and how those seemingly opposite emotions can exist side by side in both music and community. The conversation also explores the experience of being a minority in the Warped Tour scene, the importance of representation and belonging, and the cultural influences that have helped shape Initiate's identity and approach to their music. Then, Water Tower catches Mike's eye. Blending the spirit of bluegrass and punk rock, Water Tower has carved out a unique place in the music world. They also serve as the backing band for a number of performers on the Warped Tour acoustic stage, making them an important part of the community both onstage and behind the scenes.The conversation also touches on Kevin Lyman, the artists and performers who have crossed paths with Water Tower, and what it means to collaborate with musicians from across the Warped Tour universe.Never A Phase Network covers emo, pop-punk, punk,hardcore, alternative music, and the culture surrounding the scene. For interviews, reviews, playlists, concert photography,festival coverage, and more:  ⁠www.neveraphasenetwork.com⁠  FollowNeverAPhaseNetwork on social media for exclusive interviews, behind-the-scenescontent, live coverage, and more from the scene. If you enjoyed the episode, subscribe, leave a review,and share it with someone who still thinks Warped Tour was the best thing thatever happened to them. Don’t forget to like and subscribe, leave us a rating anda review. It helps out more than you can realize! Our theme song is “Staythe Same” by Gold Steps CHECK OUT GOLD STEPS AT https://www.goldstepsmusic.com/ This show is brought to you by Eargasm Earplugs! Usethe code EMOTEN to save 10% on Eargasm Earplugs! JOIN OUR DISCORD https://discord.gg/KUSh3qJTd4 The Never A Phase Network is hosted by Swemo Featuring Interviews By:Cam – Your Elder Emo Mom Kanan Phil Fairbrother Winifred Color

    Never A Phase 24: Mike Lin at Warped Tour with Initiate & Water Tower

  6. Aug 28

    Never a Phase 23: Vans Warped Tour Long Beach /w The Ataris, Guilt Trip, and Scarlet House

    In this episode, Kanan is back on the ground at Warped Tour Long Beach! We explore the journeys of musicians from Warped Tour, their creative processes, and their perspectives on community, positivity, and staying true to their roots. Guests include Mike from the Ataris, Jacob from Guild Trip, and Scarlet House, sharing insights on music, resilience, and growth. Hear about what happens when you're in a legedary pop-punk band and get arrested for fraud! Talk about staying hardcore with Guilt Trip! And get into influences like Frank Ocean with Scarlet House! Never A Phase Network covers emo, pop-punk, punk,hardcore, alternative music, and the culture surrounding the scene. For interviews, reviews, playlists, concert photography,festival coverage, and more:  ⁠www.neveraphasenetwork.com⁠  FollowNeverAPhaseNetwork on social media for exclusive interviews, behind-the-scenescontent, live coverage, and more from the scene. If you enjoyed the episode, subscribe, leave a review,and share it with someone who still thinks Warped Tour was the best thing thatever happened to them. Don’t forget to like and subscribe, leave us a rating anda review. It helps out more than you can realize! Our theme song is “Staythe Same” by Gold Steps CHECK OUT GOLD STEPS AT https://www.goldstepsmusic.com/ This show is brought to you by Eargasm Earplugs! Usethe code EMOTEN to save 10% on Eargasm Earplugs! JOIN OUR DISCORD https://discord.gg/KUSh3qJTd4 The Never A Phase Network is hosted by Swemo Featuring Interviews By:Cam – Your Elder Emo Mom Kanan Phil Fairbrother Winifred Color

    Never a Phase 23: Vans Warped Tour Long Beach /w The Ataris, Guilt Trip, and Scarlet House

  7. Aug 14

    Never A Phase 22: Warped Tour /w Hot Chelle Rae, Vienna Vienna, and Good Terms

    Never A Phase is back at Vans Warped Tour LongBeach 2026! In this episode of Never A Phase, Kananhits the ground at Warped Tour for three conversations with three very different artists, digging into everything from songwriting and music videos to punk rock cruises, hardcore energy, and the undeniable power of a massive hit song. HOT CHELLE RAE Kanan catches up with Hot Chelle Rae totalk about their history, life on the road, and the staying power of one of their biggest songs: “Tonight, Tonight.” While some bands eventually get tired of playing theirbiggest hits, Hot Chelle Rae has embraced the fact that fans will always want to hear it and they're happy to give them that moment. VIENNA VIENNA Kanan talks with Vienna Vienna about the creative process behind the music, including songwriting, live shows, music videos, and visual storytelling. Vienna Vienna offers a behind-the-scenes look at what goes into building an artistic identity in today's alternative music scene. GOOD TERMS Kanan also sits down with Good Terms for a conversation covering punk rock cruises, songwriting, coversongs, and the band's ability to combine hardcore energy with infectious pop hooks. How do you make something hit hard without sacrificing the melody? Good Terms talks about finding that balance and bringing the intensityof hardcore into a sound that's still incredibly catchy. Never A Phase Network covers emo, pop-punk, punk,hardcore, alternative music, and the culture surrounding the scene. For interviews, reviews, playlists, concert photography,festival coverage, and more:  ⁠www.neveraphasenetwork.com⁠  FollowNeverAPhaseNetwork on social media for exclusive interviews, behind-the-scenescontent, live coverage, and more from the scene. If you enjoyed the episode, subscribe, leave a review,and share it with someone who still thinks Warped Tour was the best thing thatever happened to them. Don’t forget to like and subscribe, leave us a rating anda review. It helps out more than you can realize! Our theme song is “Staythe Same” by Gold Steps CHECK OUT GOLD STEPS AT https://www.goldstepsmusic.com/ This show is brought to you by Eargasm Earplugs! Usethe code EMOTEN to save 10% on Eargasm Earplugs! JOIN OUR DISCORD https://discord.gg/KUSh3qJTd4 The Never A Phase Network is hosted by Swemo Featuring Interviews By:Cam – Your Elder Emo Mom Kanan Phil Fairbrother Winifred Color

    Never A Phase 22: Warped Tour /w Hot Chelle Rae, Vienna Vienna, and Good Terms

  8. Aug 10

    Never A Phase 21: Warped Tour Recap /w Mayday Parade, TWLOHA, & Savings

    Kanan is back with more from Vans Warped Tour Long Beach 2026. . In this episode of Never A Phase Network, we're bringing together interviews with Mayday Parade, To Write Love On Her Arms, and Savings for a look at music, mental health, creativity, community, and the people who keep the scene moving forward. MAYDAY PARADEKanan catches up with Mayday Parade to talk about their ambitious Sweet, Sad, Sugar trilogy, the band's creative evolution, and what it's like continuing to build on a legacy that has made them one of pop-punk's most enduring bands. TO WRITE LOVE ON HER ARMSThe conversation with To Write Love On Her Arms digs into the organization's work surrounding mental health, hope, and community and the importance of creating spaces where people can be honest about what they're going through. SAVINGSKanan also sits down with Savings to talk music, the current alternative scene, and what it's like finding your place in a community that continues to evolve while still carrying the DNA of everything that came before it. Never A Phase Network covers emo, pop-punk, punk,hardcore, alternative music, and the culture surrounding the scene. For interviews, reviews, playlists, concert photography,festival coverage, and more:  ⁠www.neveraphasenetwork.com⁠  Follow NeverAPhaseNetwork on social media for exclusive interviews, behind-the-scenescontent, live coverage, and more from the scene. If you enjoyed the episode, subscribe, leave a review,and share it with someone who still thinks Warped Tour was the best thing that ever happened to them. Don’t forget to like and subscribe, leave us a rating anda review. It helps out more than you can realize! Our theme song is “Stay the Same” by Gold Steps CHECK OUT GOLD STEPS AT https://www.goldstepsmusic.com/ This show is brought to you by Eargasm Earplugs! Use the code EMOTEN to save 10% on Eargasm Earplugs! JOIN OUR DISCORD https://discord.gg/KUSh3qJTd4 The Never A Phase Network is hosted by Swemo Featuring Interviews By:Cam – Your Elder Emo Mom Kanan Phil Fairbrother Winifred Color

    Never A Phase 21: Warped Tour Recap /w Mayday Parade, TWLOHA, & Savings
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Never A Phase Network: Each episode, The Swemo Guy sits down with friends from across the scene to talk about their history with the music we love, as well as the current Hot Topics shaping the future of the genre. We end the show with a lightning round of questions about popular scene debates, band life, food on the road, and more.

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  • Creator
    Never A Phase Network
  • Years Active
    2025 - 2026
  • Episodes
    30
  • Rating
    Explicit
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    © Never A Phase Network
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    Never A Phase Podcast