The Supply Geek Podcast

Ben Thornton-Jones
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Each episode of the Supply Geek podcast focuses on one material or product which touches modern life for all of us, and attempts to uncover the little-known supply chain behind it. Using the format of a one-to-one interview with an expert (or geek) who can relay their knowledge and experience, the viewer/listener is taken on a journey to understand its origins, the steps it takes before reaching the consumer, which products it can be found in, and the people and environments that support its journey. We discuss the challenges in the supply chain, how these can be overcome and highlight best practice examples which prove that this material or product has a path to a sustainable and resilient future.

Episodes

  1. Feb 1

    The Supply Geek Podcast - Plastics and Toothpaste Tubes

    In this episode of the Supply Geek podcast, host Ben Thornton-Jones speaks with Joe Muscat, a packaging and sustainability expert with a background in chemistry, about the fascinating world of plastics and toothpaste tubes. They explore the history of plastics and toothpaste tubes, the evolution of packaging materials, and the complexities of recycling. Joe shares insights into the composition of toothpaste tubes, the challenges of recycling plastics, and the emerging alternatives to traditional materials. The conversation emphasizes the importance of sustainability and consumer responsibility in the context of packaging and waste management. Takeaways Toothpaste tubes have evolved significantly over the years.The first toothpaste tubes were made of aluminum.Composite tubes made of plastic and aluminum are difficult to recycle.New mono-material toothpaste tubes are now being developed for recyclability.Plastics have a broad definition and include many types of materials.The recycling process involves sorting, cleaning, and melting plastics.Advanced recycling methods can turn waste plastics back into oil.Consumer behaviour plays a crucial role in recycling effectiveness. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Supply Geek Podcast01:06 Meet Joe Muscat: The Toothpaste and Packaging Expert06:26 The Evolution of Toothpaste Tubes17:08 Understanding Plastics: Types and Uses36:15 The Supply Chain of Plastics41:42 The Journey of Plastics: From Oil to Products43:36 Innovations in Plastic Production: Beyond Fossil Fuels48:37 Understanding Plant-Based Plastics and Their Impact51:54 Recycling: The Process and Challenges Ahead01:01:11 The Economics of Recycling: Challenges and Solutions01:09:30 The Future of Plastics: Balancing Use and Sustainability

    The Supply Geek Podcast - Plastics and Toothpaste Tubes

  2. 12/18/2025

    The Supply Geek Podcast - Tuna

    In this episode of the Supply Geek podcast, host Ben Thornton-Jones engages with Iain Mahood to explore the intricate world of tuna supply chains. They discuss the various fishing methods, the impact of sustainability, and the challenges of traceability and transparency in the industry. The conversation also delves into consumer awareness regarding labeling, pricing dynamics, and the future of tuna fisheries amidst growing demand and environmental concerns. Iain emphasizes the importance of responsible fishing practices and the need for better management to ensure the sustainability of tuna stocks. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Supply Chains and Tuna02:57 Iain Mahood's Career and Expertise06:05 Understanding the Tuna Supply Chain08:45 Fishing Methods and Their Impact11:58 The Scale of Tuna Fishing Operations14:58 Challenges in Tuna Fishing and Sustainability17:54 The People Behind the Tuna Supply Chain20:52 Traceability and Transparency in Tuna Supply Chains23:47 Conclusion and Future of Tuna Supply Chains33:02 Navigating the Tuna Supply Chain37:47 Understanding Tuna Pricing Dynamics43:21 Consumer Awareness and Labeling in Tuna Products54:12 Future Challenges and Opportunities in Tuna Fishing Keywords supply chain, tuna, seafood, fishing methods, sustainability, traceability, consumer awareness, pricing, marine stewardship, fishing industry

    The Supply Geek Podcast - Tuna

  3. 12/11/2025

    The Supply Geek Podcast - Santa Interview!

    In this short interview for the Supply Geek podcast, host Ben Thornton-Jones speaks with the head of the world largest and most complex supply chain......Santa Claus himself! Santa reveals how he manages to deliver all those presents to children who celebrate Christmas in just 1 night. A must watch for supply geeks (and their little supply geeks) out there. MERRY CHRISTMAS from The Supply Geek Podcast!

    The Supply Geek Podcast - Santa Interview!

  4. 11/27/2025

    The Supply Geek Podcast - Chocolate

    In this episode of the Supply Geek podcast, host Ben Thornton-Jones speaks with cocoa expert Antonie Fountain about the complexities of the cocoa supply chain. They discuss the history of cocoa, its production, and the significant challenges faced by cocoa farmers, including child labor, deforestation, and poverty. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding the cocoa supply chain and the need for transparency and sustainability in the industry. Antonie discusses the complexities of the cocoa supply chain, the impact of EU regulations on traceability, and the challenges faced by cocoa farmers amidst fluctuating prices. The discussion highlights the importance of consumer awareness and advocacy for sustainable practices in the cocoa industry, while also acknowledging the positive developments and potential for improvement in the sector. Takeaways Cocoa has a long history, dating back over 5,000 years.The sweetness in chocolate primarily comes from added sugar, not cocoa itself.Cocoa is predominantly produced by smallholder farmers in West Africa.Deforestation is a significant issue linked to cocoa production.Child labor and gender inequality are prevalent in the cocoa industry.The cocoa supply chain is complex and often lacks transparency.Cocoa is primarily grown in regions that were once rainforests.The European Union's deforestation regulation will require complete traceability in cocoa supply chains.Poverty among cocoa farmers exacerbates human rights and environmental issues. Cocoa prices have seen unprecedented spikes due to various factors, including climate change and supply chain disruptions.Farmers in Ghana and Cote d'Ivoire are particularly vulnerable to price fluctuations due to their reliance on forward selling.Despite high cocoa prices, many farmers do not benefit equally due to market structures in their countries.Consumer awareness and advocacy can significantly impact the cocoa industry and promote sustainability.The cocoa sector has made strides in addressing issues like child labor and living income for farmers.Collaboration and data sharing in the cocoa industry have improved over the past decade.Cocoa is ahead of other commodities in understanding and tackling its challenges.There is hope for a brighter future in the cocoa industry, but continued efforts are necessary. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Supply Geek Podcast01:01 Meet Antonie Fountain: The Cocoa Expert04:33 The Importance of Cocoa in Supply Chains07:30 Understanding Cocoa: History and Production15:30 Cocoa's Global Supply Chain and Major Producers24:27 The Role of Smallholder Farmers in Cocoa Production27:56 Navigating the Cocoa Supply Chain28:52 Understanding Cocoa Farming Dynamics32:09 The Complexity of Cocoa Harvesting and Processing38:02 The Journey of Cocoa: From Farm to Factory41:25 The Impact of EU Regulations on Cocoa Supply Chains47:01 Current Challenges in Cocoa Pricing and Farmer Impact56:31 Cocoa Pricing Challenges and Market Dynamics01:00:59 Consumer Perceptions and Industry Responses01:09:10 Progress and Hope in the Cocoa Sector01:16:46 Empowering Consumers and Citizens for Change Keywords cocoa, supply chain, chocolate, sustainability, child labor, deforestation, farmers, cocoa, EU deforestation regulation, cocoa pricing, sustainable chocolate,consumer advocacy, cocoa traceability, climate change

    The Supply Geek Podcast - Chocolate

  5. 11/14/2025

    The Supply Geek Podcast - Lemongrass

    In this episode of the Supply Geek podcast, host Ben Thornton-Jones speaks with lemongrass experts Anand Iyer and Samr Calcutawala from Origin Oils to explore the fascinating world of lemongrass. They discuss its agricultural significance, diverse applications, and the economic benefits for farmers. The conversation delves into the distillation process, the challenges faced by farmers, and the innovative work being done by Origin Oils to support sustainable practices and traceability in the supply chain. Takeaways Lemongrass is a perennial grass used widely in food and fragrance industries.It has strong antimicrobial properties, making it valuable in soaps and sanitizers.Lemongrass farming is particularly beneficial for smallholder farmers in water-scarce regions.The distillation process yields a small amount of oil from a large biomass of lemongrass.Farmers can store lemongrass oil for longer periods, allowing them to sell at better prices later.Adulteration of lemongrass oil with synthetic citral is a significant market challenge.Origin Oils aims to connect farmers directly with the international market, reducing middlemen.The company uses technology for traceability and to support farmers' income and practices.Lemongrass farming can provide better returns compared to traditional crops like rice and wheat.The demand for natural ingredients like lemongrass is on the rise, especially in nutraceuticals and pet care. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Supply Chains and Lemongrass01:53 Meet the Lemongrass Experts04:28 Understanding Lemongrass: Uses and Properties12:28 The Farming of Lemongrass: Cultivation and Challenges18:38 Profitability and Market Dynamics of Lemongrass26:41 The Distillation Process and Supply Chain Overview26:44 Understanding the Distillation Process39:48 Challenges in Lemongrass Farming43:45 Origin Oils: Bridging Farmers and Markets Keywords lemongrass, supply chain, essential oils, agriculture, sustainability, farmers, distillation, natural products, fragrance, economic impact Links https://origin-oils.co.uk/

    The Supply Geek Podcast - Lemongrass

  6. 11/04/2025

    The Supply Geek Podcast - Batteries

    In this episode of the Supply Geek podcast, host Ben Thornton-Jones speaks with Caspar Rawles, Chief Operating Officer of Benchmark Mineral Intelligence, about the intricate and vital battery supply chain. They explore the various materials required for battery production, the geographic sources of these materials, and the current market dynamics affecting prices. The conversation delves into the dominance of China in the supply chain, the growing demand for batteries in electric vehicles and energy storage, and the importance of recycling. They also discuss the challenges faced by the industry, including geopolitical issues and the need for skilled labor in battery manufacturing. Takeaways The battery supply chain is complex and global.Lithium is abundant but requires significant processing.China dominates the battery supply chain, controlling over 80% of it.Energy storage is a rapidly growing sector in the battery market.All minerals in batteries are recyclable, but recycling technology is still developing.The market is currently experiencing price volatility due to oversupply.There is a significant demand for skilled labor in battery manufacturing.Geopolitical factors heavily influence the supply chain.The transition to electric vehicles is driving demand for batteries.Benchmark provides critical data and analysis for the battery supply chain. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Supply Chain Podcast00:58 Understanding the Battery Supply Chain05:34 Materials Behind Battery Production10:39 Geographic Sources of Battery Materials16:18 Current Market Dynamics and Price Volatility20:41 From Raw Materials to Battery Production25:44 China's Dominance in the Battery Supply Chain32:03 Demand Centers for Battery Production37:30 Recycling and Sustainability in Battery Production46:45 Challenges in the Battery Supply Chain50:47 Benchmark's Role in the Battery Industry Keywords battery supply chain, lithium, recycling, electric vehicles, energy storage, critical minerals, China, market dynamics, sustainability, mining

    The Supply Geek Podcast - Batteries

  7. 10/09/2025

    The Supply Geek Podcast - Mint

    In this episode of the Supply Geek podcast, host Ben Thornton-Jones engages with mint expert Vaibhav Agrawal from Norex to explore the intricate supply chain of mint, from its cultivation in India to its various applications in oral care, pharmaceuticals, and more. They discuss the different varieties of mint, the distillation process, the role of farmers, and the challenges they face, including competition from synthetic alternatives. The conversation also highlights the Sankalp program aimed at enhancing farmer livelihoods and sustainability in mint production, culminating in a discussion on the carbon footprint of natural versus synthetic mint. Takeaways Mint is a significant crop in India, with 80% of global production.There are three main varieties of mint: mentha arvensis (corn mint), mentha peperita (peppermint), and mentha spicata (spearmint).Mint oil is extracted through steam distillation, separating oil from water.Farmers in Uttar Pradesh, India typically cultivate mint alongside other crops like rice and potatoes.Mint is often referred to as 'liquid gold' due to its market value and shelf life.Synthetic mint poses a challenge to natural mint farmers due to lower prices.The Sankalp program focuses on enhancing farmer income and sustainability.Natural mint has a more complex flavor profile compared to synthetic alternatives.Sustainable practices can significantly reduce the carbon footprint of mint production.Consumer awareness of the source of mint products can drive demand for natural ingredients. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Mint Supply Chain04:13 Understanding Mint Varieties and Their Origins06:07 The Rise of Mint Production in India09:51 The Distillation Process of Mint Oil14:16 The Role of Farmers in Mint Cultivation19:50 Challenges Faced by Mint Farmers25:25 Major Products Utilizing Mint and Synthetic Alternatives26:25 The Versatile Applications of Mint29:15 Natural vs. Synthetic Mint: A Cost Analysis33:40 Consumer Awareness: The Right to Know37:13 Sankalp Program: Empowering Farmers and Communities44:51 Sustainability and Carbon Footprint in Mint Production Keywords mint supply chain, mint varieties, mint production, mint oil distillation, mint farmers, synthetic mint, sustainability, Sankalp program, carbon footprint, oral care products

    The Supply Geek Podcast - Mint

  8. 10/02/2025

    The Supply Geek Podcast - Vanilla

    In this episode of the Supply Geek podcast, host Ben Thornton-Jones engages with Hamish Taylor, a vanilla expert, to explore the intricate world of vanilla production. They discuss the origins of vanilla, its journey from farm to flavor, the challenges faced by farmers, and the importance of sustainability in the vanilla supply chain. The conversation highlights the labor-intensive process of vanilla cultivation, the economic realities for farmers, and the need for consumer awareness regarding ethical sourcing. Hamish shares his passion for vanilla and emphasizes the significance of cherishing every supply chain, advocating for a sustainable and resilient future for vanilla farming. Takeaways Vanilla is a complex ingredient that requires an explorer's mentality.Hand pollination is crucial for vanilla production and is labor-intensive.It takes three years for a vanilla orchid to produce its first flowers.Farmers face challenges such as theft and the need for alternative income sources.Sustainability in vanilla farming is essential for the future of the crop.Vanilla is often associated with comfort and indulgence in various products.Consumer awareness is vital for ethical sourcing of vanilla.The vanilla supply chain is deeply interconnected with cultural and sensory experiences.Every supply chain, including vanilla, should be cherished and supported. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Supply Chain of Vanilla06:55 The Journey of Vanilla: From Farm to Flavor18:44 Understanding Vanilla Production and Challenges22:56 The Future of Vanilla Farming and Sustainability Keywords supply chain, vanilla, sustainability, farming, flavor, production, Madagascar, agriculture, consumer awareness, ethical sourcing

    The Supply Geek Podcast - Vanilla

  9. 10/02/2025

    The Supply Geek Podcast - Milk

    In this episode of the Supply Geek podcast, host Ben Thornton-Jones engages with Robin Sundaram, a veteran in the dairy supply chain, to explore the intricate journey of milk from farm to consumer. They discuss the importance of understanding the supply chain, the role of farmers, the challenges they face, and the impact of climate change on dairy farming. The conversation also highlights technological innovations, sustainability initiatives, and Nestlé's partnership with First Milk, emphasizing the need for a more resilient and environmentally friendly dairy industry. Takeaways Milk is a staple in many diets, yet few know its supply chain.Farmers are incentivized to produce milk with higher fat and protein levels.The UK has a unique milk consumption pattern compared to Europe.Dairy farming has seen a decline in the number of farmers over the years.Climate change significantly impacts dairy farming practices.Technological advancements are changing how dairy farms operate.The milk supply chain is relatively short and traceable.Environmental sustainability is a growing concern in dairy farming.Nestlé's partnership with First Milk focuses on long-term sustainability.Farmers face economic pressures from fluctuating milk prices. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Supply Chain Podcast04:56 The Journey of Milk: From Farm to Table09:57 Understanding Dairy Farmers and Their Challenges15:03 The Impact of Technology on Dairy Farming20:00 The Milk Supply Chain: Processes and Logistics24:43 Global Influences on the UK Dairy Market35:44 Impact of Global Events on Milk Prices38:50 Challenges in Milk Production44:43 Innovative Partnerships for Sustainable Farming49:08 Building Trust with Farmers01:04:02 The Future of Dairy Farming and Environmental Impact Keywords supply chain, milk, dairy farming, farmers, sustainability, Nestlé, First Milk, environmental challenges, technology in agriculture, food production

    The Supply Geek Podcast - Milk

  10. 10/02/2025

    The Supply Geek Podcast - Palm Oil

    In this episode of the Supply Geek podcast, host Ben Thornton-Jones engages with Judith Murdoch, a palm oil expert, to explore the complexities of the palm oil industry. They discuss the origins, uses, and the significant role palm oil plays in various products. Judith shares insights into the scale of production, the importance of smallholders, and the challenges faced by the industry, including deforestation and labor issues. The conversation also highlights the efforts of the Roundtable on Sustainable Palm Oil (RSPO) to promote sustainable practices and the implications of the European Union's Deforestation Regulation (EUDR) on the industry. The episode emphasizes the need for consumer awareness and support for sustainable palm oil initiatives. Takeaways Palm oil is a highly versatile and productive crop.The palm oil industry is significant for many everyday products.Smallholders contribute a large portion of palm oil production.Deforestation and labor issues are major challenges in the industry.The RSPO aims to promote sustainable palm oil practices.Consumer awareness is crucial for supporting sustainable palm oil.The EUDR aims to regulate deforestation linked to palm oil.Palm oil has a complex history and cultural significance.Sustainable sourcing can help mitigate environmental impacts.Education and healthcare access are vital for improving conditions in palm oil communities. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Supply Chains and Palm Oil 01:40 Judith Murdoch's Journey into Palm Oil 05:26 Understanding Palm Oil: Origins and Uses 12:35 The Ubiquity of Palm Oil in Everyday Products 19:04 The Scale of Palm Oil Production 21:39 The Role of Smallholders in Palm Oil Production 32:16 Challenges Facing the Palm Oil Industry 47:48 The RSPO and Sustainable Palm Oil Initiatives 58:33 The EUDR and Its Implications for Palm Oil Keywords palm oil, supply chain, sustainability, RSPO, deforestation, smallholders, environmental impact, consumer awareness, palm oil production, ethical sourcing

    The Supply Geek Podcast - Palm Oil

  11. 09/29/2025

    The Supply Geek Podcast - Introduction

    Introduction to the Supply Geek podcast - what it is, why it matters, who its for and what to expect in the series!

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Each episode of the Supply Geek podcast focuses on one material or product which touches modern life for all of us, and attempts to uncover the little-known supply chain behind it. Using the format of a one-to-one interview with an expert (or geek) who can relay their knowledge and experience, the viewer/listener is taken on a journey to understand its origins, the steps it takes before reaching the consumer, which products it can be found in, and the people and environments that support its journey. We discuss the challenges in the supply chain, how these can be overcome and highlight best practice examples which prove that this material or product has a path to a sustainable and resilient future.

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  • Creator
    Ben Thornton-Jones
  • Years Active
    2025 - 2026
  • Episodes
    11
  • Rating
    Clean
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    © 2025 Ben Thornton-Jones
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    The Supply Geek Podcast