Thought Partners Podcast

Ed Buchanan & Paul Tonden

At the intersection of creativity and career, it’s the Thought Partners Podcast. Who You Are You are looking for more meaning in your work and a better balance in your life. You might be a quiet leader who feels overlooked, a parent trying to make a business fit your family, or a professional ready to start a brand-new chapter. You want to move past fear and find a path that brings you joy. You are tired of competing with others and are ready to focus on your own growth. Who We Are We are Ed and Paul—two friends who believe that ideas are better with company. Ed is a creator and storyteller who loves to build things and solve problems. Paul is a business owner driven by curiosity and the human side of leadership. Think of us as an extension of your own brain, helping you rethink problems and find new perspectives. What We Do Every episode, we sit down to tackle big questions about work and creativity. We use a simple three-step approach: we challenge old ways of thinking, clarify what is truly important, and co-create something useful together. We’re here to practice. Because thinking alongside someone you trust, with the mess welcome and the stakes real, is one of the most underrated things a human being can do. We avoid fancy talk to focus on real-life stories and honest conversation. Every show provides a small, targeted activity to try so you can start making progress that same week.

  1. 4d ago

    When Normal Never Returns

    Fifteen episodes in, Ed and Paul open Season 3 by naming it: a Season of Change. They rumble with the question "When did you realize things weren't going back to normal?", why "normal" feels so comfortable, and how to have a plan for when the plan doesn't go to plan. Then Ed puts ten brand-new questions on the table, the questions that will drive the rest of the season. **Help shape Episodes 3–7:** join the Thought Partners Discord and add or upvote a question about change by **October 13**. 👉 https://discord.gg/5CU3xW4AD ## Timestamps 00:05 — Welcome to Season 3 (episode 15!) 01:28 — "It's our quinceañera": what 15 episodes has meant 03:59 — 25 engaged listeners or 500 casual ones 05:52 — Naming it the Season of Change 08:17 — Ten years ago today: could you have predicted this? 10:41 — When did you realize things weren't going back to normal? 14:10 — Control, forecasting, and what you're carrying 17:38 — Plans, curveballs, and the Empowered Learner 20:07 — Have a plan for when the plan doesn't go to plan 22:47 — Improv, beats, and why normal feels comfortable 26:14 — Comfortable with being uncomfortable (and Ed's first day teaching) 29:44 — Process people, routine, and whether change ever ends 34:45 — Krispy Kreme, AI, and the human in the loop 38:43 — From "back to normal" to a desired future state 39:03 — Lightning round: ten questions for a Season of Change 41:43 — More than three people: the thought-partner crash 44:11 — What, who, and how you come up with a good question 46:14 — Where the questions came from 49:09 — Anything new under the sun? (and Stoic D-minus days) 51:22 — Wrap ## The ten questions (lightning round, 39:03) 1. What have you stopped waiting for? 2. What does it cost to keep treating change as an event, like the weather? 3. Who did you have to become to keep up, and do you like that person? 4. When everyone's shifting, who do you actually turn to? 5. What change did you fight the hardest that turned out to be the right call? 6. What did the last few years take from you, and what did they quietly hand you? 7. What used to be a crisis for you that's now just a Tuesday? 8. What's the one thing you refuse to change, no matter what? 9. What are you pretending to be fine with? 10. What advice about handling change do you think is just wrong? Which one would you want us to rumble with? Tell us in the Discord: https://discord.gg/5CU3xW4AD ## Coming up - Episode 2 (October 13): our first episode with more than three people — a thought-partner crash with Kyle Nelson and Deb Peters. - Episodes 3–7: shaped by your questions. ## Hosts Ed Buchanan & Paul Tonden Music: "Momentum," original Thought Partners theme.

  2. Sep 29 ·  Bonus

    Season of Change (Season 3 Preview)

    Season 3 is the Season of Change. Before the season proper begins, Ed and Paul set the table: why every conversation from the first two seasons kept circling back to change, the question-driven format that will carry Season 3, and the new Discord where you help decide what Episodes 3–7 are about. Join the Discord and shape the season: https://discord.gg/5CU3xW4AD Get your questions in by October 13. TIMESTAMPS 00:05 Welcome to the mini-sode / episode zero / pint-sized Thought Partners 01:30 "I'm Ed." "And I'm Paul." What the show is, and why we call it our arena 02:30 Season 3 is the Season of Change: the through-line we found in Seasons 1 and 2 03:54 Every guest was living through big change, and how people wrestle with it 05:31 The first question: "Once we get through this, things go back to normal, right?" 06:50 A question-driven season, and why we don't want to write all the questions ourselves 07:22 The Discord: how you shape Episodes 3 through 7 08:36 "We may have buried the lede": the community is already forming 10:17 How to add a question, upvote one, or tell us who we should be talking to 11:08 Four starter questions, read aloud 12:18 Paul picks one: "What are you pretending to be fine with?" 13:53 What we hope the Discord becomes, and what we don't want it to be 16:41 Curiosity beats being right 18:46 The ask: questions due October 13 19:49 Take care of yourself and each other 19:55 Thought partners out THE FOUR STARTER QUESTIONS What have you stopped waiting for?Who did you have to become to keep up, and do you like that person?What's the one thing you refuse to change, no matter what?What are you pretending to be fine with? Upvote one, or add your own, in the Discord.COMING UP Oct 6: Episode 1, "What if normal doesn't come back?" Oct 13: Episode 2, with Kyle Nelson and Deb Peters Episodes 3–7: shaped by your questions Hosted by Ed Buchanan and Paul Tonden. Music: "Momentum," an original theme for Season 3.

  3. Jun 16

    All Words Are Made Up with Beth Ardner

    A grant proposal. A conversation with your doctor. A veterans program in Maryland. Beth Ardner argues they are all the same act: telling a story well enough that someone sees themselves in it. In the Season 2 finale, Beth comes back as our first two-time guest and makes a bigger claim than she did the first time. Storytelling is not one skill among many. It is the connective skill, the one that lets you turn durable skills, soft skills, world-ready skills, and every other rebranded version of the same idea into something people actually adopt. Stories build consensus. Consensus is how anything changes. Then it gets personal. Beth writes collaborative fiction with fifteen people across the world, a hobby that just made her a Simming Prize Laureate. When one of those writers passed away this year, the group made plot decisions to honor his wishes and keep his character alive. That story becomes the clearest answer in the episode to the question everyone is asking right now: what can humans do that AI can't? You cannot give AI the context of a human. We land where the show always tries to land. Not on theory, but on what you can do with it. Beth's answer for anyone who thinks they aren't a storyteller is simple, and it might change how you read everything after this. CHAPTERS (timestamps)00:00 — Cold open 00:39 — Welcome back: our first returning guest 01:24 — Fun fact: "capital" comes from cattle 03:06 — What Beth is juggling: a $25M RFP, apprenticeships,veterans 05:46 — Is everyone just busy, or is it 2026? 07:36 — Storytelling is THE skill, not a sub-skill of communication 10:03 — "All words are made up": the terminology trap 14:56 — How story builds consensus (Goldilocks) 17:40 — Relatability, morals, and consent 18:33 — Sci-fi that came true: Star Trek, the tablet, the communicator 20:34 — The second label: inspiration 22:19 — Timeless vs. of-a-time: history as consensus 24:53 — Learning is a skill too: storyteller as learner and teacher 27:48 — Retelling: Disney, remakes, and generational nostalgia 30:47 — Archetypes and the Bechdel test 33:42 — Why AI can write scripts, and where humans come in 34:54 — Inside collaborative writing: fan fiction, simming, fifteen authors 36:43 — Choose your own adventure as long-form improv 38:23 — The Simming Prize: Beth becomes a Laureate 40:50 — Who's in the room: a ferry captain, a UK cop, a winery 43:49 — AI in the hobby: where the line actually is 46:13 — AI as translation: getting what's in your head out 47:24 — Plotting with AI without losing the people 49:13 — What AI can't do: honoring a writer they lost 52:46 — Ed's challenge: what do you carry into the real work? 54:10 — "An apprentice is a title, not a person" 57:02 — Compassion and empathy as the real test 1:01:03 — How anyone can write their way out of a problem 1:04:29 — The close: first to say yes, and a new question 1:11:10 — Take care of yourselves and each other

  4. Jun 2

    Whose Development Is It, Anyway?

    It's that time of year. The calendar flips, performance reviews hit, and somewhere in the building a memo goes out: submit your professional development plan. No guidance. No direction. Just go do it — and oh, don't forget, you still have to do your actual job. That's exactly where a friend of mine found himself when he reached out to talk it through. We're calling him Matt — names changed to protect the innocent. And the conversation went somewhere I didn't expect. What started as "I don't even know where to start" turned into something a lot more interesting once we stopped talking about what the company needed and started asking what Matt actually wanted. In this episode, Paul and I get into the real friction behind professional development mandates — why so many of us dread them, what that resistance is actually telling us, and how to extract genuine value even when nobody handed you a map. CHAPTERS00:00 – Cold Open: "Go Learn This, Because I Said So"01:09 – Back in the Sandbox01:19 – Meet Matt: A Mandate with No Map03:15 – Paul's Background and the Familiar Tune of PD Season05:18 – Apply It or It Didn't Happen07:52 – Value Shows Up in Context08:53 – The Uncomfortable Truth: What If They Just Don't Want To?10:17 – Paul's Estate Sales Approach to Extracting Value12:39 – The Sticky Note on Paul's Desk13:12 – The Treasure Box: Whose Development Is This, Really?16:03 – "Go Learn This, Because I Said So" (And Why That Backfires)17:25 – The Trust Equation: Who's Actually Centered Here?19:47 – Green Pastures, No Map21:00 – The Three Filters: Accessible, Aligned, and Applicable24:04 – When You Need the Value to Show Up Immediately26:45 – Compliance Isn't the Same Thing as Growth30:10 – What Organizations Actually Get Right31:28 – Story Time: Ed Walks Into the Wrong Room40:53 – What He Actually Got Out of It44:54 – The Clique That Was Studying Cliques45:29 – Ed Was the Disruption48:45 – The Guiding Question

  5. May 26

    Acknowledge, Accept, and Address Career Chaos with Ryan Poirier

    What happens when you suddenly lose your job? In this episode, therapist-in-training Dr. Ryan Poirier joins the podcast sandbox to talk about navigating the raw grief of career transitions. Ryan shares how a high school wrestling move called the "neck bridge" can teach us to survive heavy professional pressure without getting completely pinned. The conversation covers how to repurpose AI as a graduate school study tool , why mistakes are our best leadership teachers , and how to use the "Acknowledge, Accept, Address" framework to process big emotions. Finally, Ryan shares a powerful live epiphany: your internal personal mission and integrity matter far more than any corporate statement on a wall. Time Stamps 00:00 – Processing Job Loss and Finding the Glimmer 01:48 – Welcome to the Arena: Unfinished Thinking in the Sandbox  03:44 – The Metaphor of the Neck Bridge  06:27 – Redefining the Creative Canvas: Problem Solving vs. Art  10:55 – The Human Edge vs. Artificial Intelligence  14:19 – Operational Creativity & Graduate School AI Hacks  17:15 – Narrative Storytelling and Stumbling into Psychology  21:30 – People-First Leadership and the Safety to Fail  24:02 – Ladder vs. Rock Climbing Wall: Reimagining the Career  26:44 – Shifting Professional Values and Organizational Friction  33:24 – The Framework: Acknowledge, Accept, and Address  35:41 – Healing Through Creative Play  39:52 – Advisor Advice and the Hospital Psych Unit Path  41:34 – Unpacking Ikigai and Writing to Your Future Self  45:40 – Embracing the Messy Process of Collaborative Problem Solving  52:14 – Workplace Reminders and Staying Out of the River  56:10 – The Realm of Possibility: Prioritizing Self-Care in Transition  1:00:04 – The Epiphany: Internal Personal Mission vs. External Banners  1:01:17 – Approaching Careers as Experiments and Final Wrap-Up

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At the intersection of creativity and career, it’s the Thought Partners Podcast. Who You Are You are looking for more meaning in your work and a better balance in your life. You might be a quiet leader who feels overlooked, a parent trying to make a business fit your family, or a professional ready to start a brand-new chapter. You want to move past fear and find a path that brings you joy. You are tired of competing with others and are ready to focus on your own growth. Who We Are We are Ed and Paul—two friends who believe that ideas are better with company. Ed is a creator and storyteller who loves to build things and solve problems. Paul is a business owner driven by curiosity and the human side of leadership. Think of us as an extension of your own brain, helping you rethink problems and find new perspectives. What We Do Every episode, we sit down to tackle big questions about work and creativity. We use a simple three-step approach: we challenge old ways of thinking, clarify what is truly important, and co-create something useful together. We’re here to practice. Because thinking alongside someone you trust, with the mess welcome and the stakes real, is one of the most underrated things a human being can do. We avoid fancy talk to focus on real-life stories and honest conversation. Every show provides a small, targeted activity to try so you can start making progress that same week.