The Pivot Playbook-rescuing businesses, redesigning midlife

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A conversation with restructuring professionals, business leaders, and growth-minded coaches about pivotal strategies to rescue businesses and inspire midlifers to redesign their lives.  End goal- self-actualization.  The Pivot Playbook Podcast is where fresh starts meet real strategy. Host Salene Mazur Kraemer, Esq., CTA, MBA—board-certified business bankruptcy attorney and founder of MazurKraemer Business Law Group—breaks down the moves that save companies and reset lives. Each episode features candid conversations with turnaround CEOs, finance pros, franchise and SBA experts, lawyers, and growth coaches. We cover business topics like cash-flow triage, personal guarantees, asset protection, buying or fixing a business.   At the same time, we often talk about important personal issues that hit midlifers hard- empty nest, aging parents, financial tips, limiting beliefs, relationship repair, health challenges, parenting woes, physical fitness, career reinvention, and creative flow.  You’ll hear case-study breakdowns, 3-minute “Legal Playbook” explainers, and coach-level frameworks you can apply today. If you’re navigating change—by choice or by circumstance—this is your weekly guide to a smarter pivot.

Episodes

  1. May 29 ·  Video

    Purpose Over Perfection: How Stephanie Lieb Defines Success Now

    Stephanie Lieb on Purpose, Resilience, and Living Fully Now Stephanie Lieb — shareholder at Trenam Law and newly inducted Fellow of the American College of Bankruptcy — joins Salene for a deeply human conversation about ambition, grief, motherhood, leadership, and redefining success in midlife. With more than two decades of experience in creditors’ rights and bankruptcy law, Stephanie reflects on the unexpected path that led her into insolvency practice after Hurricane Katrina — and the personal loss that later reshaped the way she approaches life itself. What emerges is a conversation about intentionality: building a meaningful career while refusing to postpone joy, family, or fulfillment for “someday.” A powerful episode about resilience, grace, perspective, and choosing to live fully now — not later. ✅ NOTES Today on The Pivot Playbook, Salene speaks with Stephanie Lieb, shareholder at Trenam Law in Tampa, Florida. Stephanie’s practice includes: Creditors’ rights and bankruptcy litigation Representation of financial institutions and commercial landlords Fiduciary work Real estate and title litigation Buyer-side asset acquisitions in bankruptcy General counsel work for the Diocese of St. Petersburg She also serves as: Fellow of the American College of Bankruptcy (2024) Chair of the Business Law Section of the Florida Bar representing more than 6,000 attorneys A highly respected 20-year practitioner deeply rooted in the Tampa Bay community ⭐ IN THIS EPISODE, WE COVER: 1. Falling Into Bankruptcy — and Never Leaving Stephanie never planned to become a bankruptcy lawyer. As a law student at Tulane University, Hurricane Katrina abruptly displaced her from New Orleans and sent her back home to Tampa. Looking for available coursework, she enrolled in a bankruptcy class taught by Judge Alexander Paskay. That decision changed the trajectory of her entire career. She went on to: Intern for Judge Paskay Clerk for two bankruptcy judges Build a long-term practice in insolvency and restructuring “I had never even heard of bankruptcy… and I’ve never really looked back.” 2. A Practice Built on Variety and Curiosity One of the things Stephanie loves most about bankruptcy law is that no two cases are ever the same. Because insolvency touches nearly every industry and legal discipline, the work constantly exposes her to new businesses, operational structures, and challenges. From agriculture and manufacturing to aviation startups and technology companies, every engagement becomes an education. “You learn about everything — sausage factories, tech companies, agriculture… it’s never the same twice.” That intellectual variety is what has kept the work engaging for more than twenty years. 3. Why Diversification Makes Better Lawyers Stephanie intentionally built a diversified practice over time. In addition to creditors’ rights litigation, her work includes: Bankruptcy acquisitions Complex litigation Fiduciary matters General counsel representation for the Diocese of St. Petersburg That role, which supports Catholic schools and diocesan operations across multiple counties, has become one of the most meaningful parts of her professional life. Her philosophy is simple: “Doing different types of work makes you a better lawyer.” 4. A Case That Reinforced Her Sense of Purpose One of Stephanie’s most memorable cases involved an elderly blind woman who had been defrauded out of her life savings. The litigation required years of persistence and asset tracing. Although the client passed away before the matter concluded, Stephanie ultimately recovered assets for the woman’s family. The experience left a lasting impression. “It felt like we were doing right by her.” Moments like that continue to shape how Stephanie thinks about advocacy, purpose, and responsibility. 5. The Personal Pivot That Changed Everything Stephanie’s most defining pivot was not professional — it was personal. Ten years ago, her father passed away suddenly at age 67. He had done everything “correctly”: Worked hard Saved responsibly Retired at 65 But he only had two years to enjoy retirement. That loss fundamentally changed Stephanie’s relationship with time. “I’m not going to wait to do the things I want to do.” Since then, she has intentionally prioritized: Meaningful travel Family experiences Presence over postponement Living fully in the present “We’re not promised tomorrow.” 6. Redefining Success in Midlife Stephanie’s definition of success has evolved significantly over the years. Today, success means: Raising healthy, grounded children Supporting her partners and colleagues Serving clients well Keeping commitments Giving herself grace Most importantly, she’s learned to release the pressure of excelling in every role simultaneously. “Some days I’m a great mom. Some days I’m a great lawyer. They’re not always the same day — and that’s okay.” It’s one of the most honest and resonant moments of the episode. 7. Practical Advice for Creditors and Debtors Stephanie also shares grounded advice for businesses and individuals facing financial distress. Her perspective: Bankruptcy can create structure It can provide breathing room But it does not magically erase underlying problems She encourages clients to stay realistic, solution-oriented, and proactive. “Bankruptcy is a place to consolidate problems — not eliminate them.” 8. Leadership Through Service and Community Stephanie’s leadership extends well beyond her practice. At Trenam Law, she values the firm’s deep investment in the Tampa Bay business community — supporting local companies, entrepreneurship, and economic growth. Her broader leadership includes: Chairing the Florida Bar Business Law Section National bankruptcy leadership roles Mentorship of younger attorneys Service-oriented professional leadership Community, for Stephanie, is not separate from professional success — it is part of it. 9. Living with Intention At the center of Stephanie’s philosophy is intentionality. She believes in: Being fully present Investing deeply in relationships Pursuing meaningful work Experiencing joy now, not later Outside of work, balance comes through: Yoga and power flow classes International travel Supporting her children’s activities and sports “I love culture shock. I love figuring things out.” That curiosity and openness to experience continues to shape both her career and her life. 🔥 MEMORABLE QUOTES “I fell into bankruptcy — and never looked back.” “We’re not promised tomorrow.” “Don’t wait to do the things you want to do.” “Bankruptcy consolidates problems — it doesn’t eliminate them.” “Some days I’m a great mom. Some days I’m a great lawyer.” “Would I be proud of this decision?” 🎯 THE PIVOT PLAYBOOK — FOUR PIVOTS Pivot She’s Most Proud Of Motherhood. Practice That Keeps Her Grounded Yoga — especially hot yoga and power flow. Principle That Guides Her Decisions “Would I be proud of this decision?” Person Who Changed Her Trajectory Judge Roberta Colton — mentor and guiding influence. 🌿 FUN FACTS Half Peruvian and fluent in Spanish Loves Latin music, including Danza Kuduro Passionate international traveler Favorite unexpected destination: Ecuador Upcoming destination: Japan Enjoys sci-fi and fantasy series, including Stranger Things Proud “professional spectator” of her children’s sports and activities ✅ CALLS TO ACTION Connect with Stephanie Lieb through Trenam Law. Follow her work and leadership through: The Florida Bar Business Law Section The American College of Bankruptcy If you’re a business owner, creditor, or professional navigating financial distress: Be proactive Be realistic Seek experienced guidance early A deeply human conversation about grief, growth, ambition, leadership, and the decision to fully live now — not someday.

    25 min
  2. Mar 2 ·  Video

    Legacy Over Litigation: Designing a Life — and Practice — That Lasts

    Andy Sykes, Certified Elder Law Attorney and founder of a Pittsburgh-based estate planning and elder law firm, joins Salene in a rare in-person episode to talk about reinvention, legacy, mentorship, and building a practice that serves families at their most vulnerable moments. From federal clerkship to litigation to a transformative pivot into Medicaid and estate planning, Andy shares how recognizing a knowledge gap changed his career — and gave him back control of his life. A thoughtful, grounded conversation about facing adversity, protecting families, mentoring the next generation, and why “always do the right thing” is more than just a slogan. ✅ NOTES Today on The Pivot Playbook, Salene sits down with Andy Sykes — Certified Elder Law Attorney practicing in Pennsylvania, with offices in Pittsburgh (Mount Lebanon) and King of Prussia. Andy focuses on: Customized estate planning Medicaid planning Asset protection Estate administration Special needs planning Strategic tax optimization What makes his practice unique? He began from the crisis side — Medicaid litigation — and saw firsthand how poorly drafted estate documents created devastating consequences for families. “If people have good knowledge and good advice, they get a much better result than they do without it.” That realization reshaped his entire career. ⭐ In this episode, we cover: 1. The Pivot: From Litigation to Elder Law Andy began his career in litigation after clerking for a federal judge and working at a boutique litigation firm where he was handed real cases from day one. But around the year 2000, a Medicaid case changed everything. A client had improperly sold her mother’s house while her mother was on Medicaid — costing her over $100,000. Andy discovered that with proper planning and understanding of Medicaid rules, the outcome could have been dramatically different. That moment revealed: A massive knowledge gap An underserved population An opportunity to help families proactively He pivoted fully from litigation to Medicaid and estate planning. “People don’t understand these rules. If they have good advice, they get a much better result.” 2. Why Planning Over Litigation Changed His Life The pivot wasn’t just professional — it was personal. At the time, Andy’s children were young. Litigation meant: Court-driven schedules Trial deadlines Stress that spilled into family life Planning work meant: Greater control of his calendar More evenings at home A healthier work-life balance “When your practice is planning-focused, you can control your calendar much more.” 3. Who He Serves Best Andy’s ideal clients are: Middle-class families Individuals approaching or in retirement Blended families Families with special needs children Clients open to proactive, innovative planning His work emphasizes: Asset protection strategies Medicaid eligibility optimization IRA tax deferral strategies Multi-generational trust planning “We optimize and customize estate plans far more than most firms do.” 4. A Memorable Case: Love, Marriage, and Asset Protection An older couple found love later in life — but had concerns about: Protecting assets for their respective children Nursing home risks Blended family complications Through a prenuptial agreement and asset protection trust planning, Andy helped them: Marry securely Preserve assets for their children Protect against Medicaid exposure Years later, they’re still together. “It’s great to make it possible for people to feel secure enough to build a life together.” 5. Midlife Perspective & Credibility When Andy began, he sometimes felt imposter syndrome advising older clients. Now, with grown children and personal estate planning experience — including special needs planning — he brings lived experience into client conversations. “I can relate now in a way I couldn’t before.” Midlife has shifted his focus from annual profitability to long-term legacy. 6. Legacy & Mentorship For Andy, success today means: Training the next generation Bringing on a summer associate Passing down a thriving practice “It’s more about legacy now than just this calendar year.” He emphasizes mentorship: “You don’t have to reinvent the wheel. Find a mentor.” 7. Facing Adversity Instead of Avoiding It One of the most thoughtful parts of the conversation centered on adversity. Andy’s perspective: When facing professional or personal setbacks, don’t avoid them. Turn toward them. He referenced The Sixth Sense as metaphor — what terrifies us may be pointing toward something we need to confront and understand. “If you can face adversity and learn from it, it becomes a moment of growth.” 8. Ethical, Heart-Centered Leadership In elder law, identifying the true client is critical. Often an adult child brings in a parent — but the parent is the client. This requires: Clear ethical boundaries Difficult conversations Protecting vulnerable individuals Courage to say “no” when capacity is lacking “You always have to know who the real client is.” 9. Community & Connection Andy builds community through: Live educational seminars Local referrals Community visibility Church involvement Supporting local music Hosting estate planning workshops He also shared an unexpected passion: Studying improv before the pandemic Improv, he says, improved his listening skills and presence with clients. 🔥 MEMORABLE QUOTES “If people have good advice, they get a much better result.” “When your practice is planning-focused, you can control your calendar.” “You don’t have to reinvent the wheel. Find a mentor.” “If you can face adversity and learn from it, it becomes growth.” “You always have to know who the real client is.” “Always do the right thing.” 🎯 THE PIVOT PLAYBOOK FOUR PIVOTS Pivot he’s most proud of: Transitioning from litigation to elder law and Medicaid planning. Practice that keeps him grounded: Exercise — training for a 10K (The Great Race in Pittsburgh). Principle that guides him: “Always do the right thing.” Person who changed his trajectory: (With humor and heart) Salene’s photography — which led him to meet his wife. 🌿 FUN FACTS Certified Elder Law Attorney Former federal judicial clerk Studied improv pre-pandemic Avid audiobook listener Favorite show: The Crown Favorite recent song: “Constant Companion” by Juliana Hatfield Favorite travel destination: Madrid Has a wild morning dove named Daisy who visits his deck ✅ CALLS TO ACTION Learn more about estate planning and elder law services in Pennsylvania: [Insert Firm Website] Attend a live estate planning seminar in Pittsburgh or King of Prussia. If you have aging parents — don’t wait until crisis. Plan proactively. A conversation about security, stewardship, facing hard truths, and building a life — and practice — designed around legacy rather than litigation.

    41 min
  3. Feb 20 ·  Video

    Never Stop Rowing the Canoe: Law, Leadership, and 786 Songs with J. Scott Bovitz

    J. Scott Bovitz — senior partner at Bovitz & Spitzer in Los Angeles, Board-Certified in Business Bankruptcy Law, Fellow of the American College of Bankruptcy, past Chair of the American Board of Certification, adjunct professor, media commentator, ham radio operator, world traveler — and composer of 786 original songs — joins Salene for a wide-ranging conversation about mastery, longevity, leadership, and building a life that blends law, music, teaching, and community. From launching his own firm in 1991 with his spouse (and still practicing 30+ years later) to recording lawyer-only bands across state lines, teaching generations of law students, and serving in nearly every major bankruptcy organization, Scott shares what it means to stay curious, keep rowing, and never step off your path. A thoughtful, funny, and deeply grounded conversation about professional reinvention, civic leadership, creativity, and defining success on your own terms. ✅ NOTES Today on The Pivot Playbook, Salene sits down with J. Scott Bovitz — bankruptcy litigator, educator, organization builder, media spokesperson, and musician. Scott practices in the Central District of California, representing creditors, landlords, trustees, and distressed businesses in complex bankruptcy litigation. He is Board-Certified in Business Bankruptcy Law (ABC), a Certified Specialist by the State Bar of California, a Fellow of the American College of Bankruptcy, and a past president and chair of numerous professional organizations. But behind the credentials is a renaissance professional: Founder of BankruptcyDog.com (a long-running bankruptcy community calendar) Adjunct professor at Loyola, UNLV, and other law schools Former member of California’s Committee of Bar Examiners Frequent media commentator (including national coverage of the Dodgers bankruptcy) Composer of 786 songs and member of two all-lawyer bands Photographer who has traveled to 82 countries ⭐ In this episode, we cover: 1. The early pivots that shaped his career Clerking for his bankruptcy professor before even getting bar results Being asked — on short notice — to teach bankruptcy at Loyola Realizing that teaching creates both mastery and opportunity Choosing a niche and digging deep “Find a field and learn everything you possibly can. The law is infinite.” 2. The boldest pivot: Starting Bovitz & Spitzer Leaving a large firm in Century City in 1991 to launch a two-lawyer firm with his spouse. Negotiating his exit Managing overhead carefully Building a litigation-focused bankruptcy practice Choosing scope intentionally (knowing what not to take) “When you’re on your own, you decide the scope of your practice.” Thirty-plus years later, the firm still thrives. 3. Building a reputation through service Scott estimates that he spends roughly one-third of his time on non-billable leadership and educational work: Writing and lecturing (hundreds of programs delivered) Serving on the State Bar’s Legal Specialization Board Writing certification exams Serving on the Committee of Bar Examiners Leadership in ABC, ABI, local bankruptcy forums His philosophy: “Don’t just belong. Participate.” 4. Media appearances & becoming a trusted expert From answering live call-in radio questions to appearing on CBS 14 times during the Dodgers bankruptcy, Scott shares how showing up publicly builds credibility — and how even his mother finally believed he was a “real lawyer” after seeing him on television. He’s also fielded complex overnight reporter calls (including on 23andMe bankruptcy privacy issues) — often from airports. 5. The music life: 786 songs and counting It started in 8th grade — writing a song for a girl. Years later, mid-career, he took UCLA extension classes in recording technology. That turned into: A home studio in Los Angeles Two all-lawyer bands Remote collaboration across cities Serving as recording engineer ABA licensing his music for podcast intros He writes constantly — and rarely declares a song “done.” “No song is ever finished.” Music, he says, keeps him grounded and in flow. 6. The power of community Scott describes the bankruptcy community as surprisingly small — perhaps 300 regular national players. Whether at ABI, ABC, NCBJ, or local forums, he values walking into a room knowing he has colleagues — and friends. He also finds connection in unexpected places: Ham radio (licensed since 1969) The Los Angeles Lawyers Philharmonic A lawyer movie club (“Monday Night Lawyer Movie Club — unless it’s on Tuesday”) BankruptcyDog.com, which he updates daily “These people who are sometimes your adversaries are your friends.” 7. Advice for younger lawyers Find a mentor you want to be like. Choose a field and master it. Go to programs year-round — not just to meet CLE requirements. Volunteer and say yes. Never stop sharpening your sword. “You never master the law. It’s infinite.” 8. Advice for business clients in distress Clients often arrive scared, overly optimistic, or poorly informed. Scott emphasizes: Listen first. Assess whether bankruptcy truly helps. Explain risks and costs clearly. Be honest when the answer is no. “Bankruptcy isn’t magic.” 9. Life at 70: How he defines success Scott recently turned 70 and has no plans to slow down. For him, success means: Financial security A stable marriage (married since 1984) The freedom to create Being able to walk into a national conference and know people Continuing to grow “You never get off your path.” 🔥 MEMORABLE QUOTES “Don’t just belong. Participate.” “When you’re on your own, you decide the scope of your practice.” “The law is infinite.” “You never master it.” “Bankruptcy isn’t magic.” “You never stop rowing the canoe.” “Golden rule and common sense — that guides my decisions.” 🎯 THE PIVOT PLAYBOOK FOUR PIVOTS Pivot he’s most proud of: Launching Bovitz & Spitzer in 1991 and building it into a decades-long practice. Practice that keeps him grounded: Writing and recording music. Principle that guides him: The Golden Rule and common sense. People who shaped his trajectory: Professor David Luna (first employer) Frank Riall (who asked him to teach) Michael Dempsey (litigation role model) Candice Carlyon (ABC leadership invitation) ✅ CALLS TO ACTION Learn more about the American Board of Certification: https://abcworld.org Explore BankruptcyDog.com (Southern California bankruptcy events calendar): http://bankruptcydog.com Connect with the American College of Bankruptcy: https://www.americancollegeofbankruptcy.com Learn more about the American Bankruptcy Institute: https://www.abi.org

    57 min
  4. 12/30/2025 ·  Video

    Mascots, Math, and Meaning: Barry Gogel’s Pivot Story

    Barry Gogel, Managing Member of the Baltimore/Towson office of Rifkin Weiner Livingston, joins Salene for a deeply human conversation about complex business litigation, government procurement battles, service-driven leadership, and the personal pivots that define a meaningful life. A University of Maryland Carey School of Law graduate, former math teacher, adjunct professor, mentor, and — yes — former Baltimore Orioles mascot, Barry shares how the biggest shift in his life wasn’t about career advancement… it was about returning to education and service. A wise, funny, and unexpectedly profound conversation about humility, aspiration, community, and why the answer is always no if you don’t ask. ✅ NOTES Today on The Pivot Playbook, Salene sits down with Barry Gogel — complex business litigator, procurement attorney, adjunct professor, mentor, and community leader based in Baltimore, Maryland. Barry practices with Rifkin Weiner Livingston, a mid-sized Maryland business law firm with a strong government relations presence. His work includes: Complex commercial litigation Government contracts and procurement bid protests Contract claims against state agencies Bankruptcy-related litigation and professional malpractice disputes High-profile regional disputes (including major sports and development matters) He describes his practice simply: “When the stakes are big, we step in.” But behind the litigation victories is a teacher at heart. ⭐ In this episode, we cover: 1. From Math Teacher to Litigator Barry began his professional life as a mathematics major who always intended to teach. Inspired by high school math teachers Began his career in education Realized the cyclical nature of teaching left him restless Pivoted to law for intellectual challenge and financial stability Yet decades later, he returned to teaching — this time at the University of Maryland School of Law. Today he teaches: Negotiations Coaches the ADR team Sports and the Law “My goal is to educate and entertain — not necessarily in that order.” 2. The Mascot Years From 1990–1994, Barry served as a Baltimore Orioles mascot. Yes — fully costumed. “What makes a good mascot? The heart of a three-year-old.” He describes it as: “The most fun you can have fully dressed.” The experience shaped his understanding of performance, energy, and connection — skills that translate directly to the courtroom and the classroom. 3. High-Stakes Litigation & Government Procurement Barry’s legal niche includes state procurement disputes — a small bar of lawyers who challenge arbitrary or unlawful government contract decisions. Ideal clients: Businesses with major state contracts Companies unfairly disfavored in competitive bidding Contractors willing to fight when the stakes justify it He also handles litigation that emerges from bankruptcies — especially professional malpractice actions pursued by creditors’ committees. “There’s no problem so big we can’t handle — so long as you’re not kicked out of court.” 4. A Memorable First Case Two weeks into practice, Barry took on a pro bono civil rights case through the ACLU involving racial discrimination at a jewelry store. Investigated discriminatory appointment practices Litigated aggressively Settled after key motions It consumed half of his first year’s billable time — and cemented his identity as an advocate. 5. The Defining Pivot: Returning to Education The biggest pivot in Barry’s life wasn’t professional — it was personal. A lunch with former law school dean Don Gifford changed everything. Barry realized he had drifted too far from education — the space that originally inspired him. He volunteered to coach the law school’s negotiations team. It didn’t pay. It required enormous time. He said yes. That decision grew into: A formal academic negotiations course A thriving ADR community A mentorship network of former students A long-term legacy of training young lawyers “It’s great to be happy. It’s even better if someone else is happy because of you.” 6. Service as Medicine Barry’s involvement with Maryland Youth in the Law (MYLAW) became another defining chapter. The program: Places Baltimore City students in paid legal internships Closes opportunity gaps Changes career trajectories He describes asking students to reflect on a moment they were truly selfless — expecting nothing in return. “You should be selfish in seeking out those selfless moments. That’s the best medicine you can give yourself.” 7. High Aspirations vs. Low Expectations One of Barry’s most memorable frameworks: “The key to happiness is low expectations. The key to success is high aspirations. The key to life is understanding the difference.” He teaches clients — and students — to: Pursue boldly Accept outcomes Not let failure define them “The answer is no if you don’t ask.” 8. Advice for Business Clients in Distress Don’t be your own lawyer. Seek outside judgment early. Don’t wait until it’s too late. Temper expectations in litigation. “Call me before it’s too late.” 9. Ethical, Heart-Centered Leadership For Barry, leadership means: Empathy without absorption Listening without ego Telling hard truths clearly Separating your client’s problem from your identity “You can’t be afraid of the hard truth.” 🔥 MEMORABLE QUOTES “The heart of a three-year-old.” “The answer is no if you don’t ask.” “Be selfish in your selflessness.” “The key to happiness is low expectations. The key to success is high aspirations. The key to life is understanding the difference.” “Don’t be your own lawyer.” “There’s no problem so big we can’t handle — so long as you’re not kicked out of court.” 🎯 THE PIVOT PLAYBOOK FOUR PIVOTS Pivot he’s most proud of: Volunteering for Maryland Youth in the Law and building a legacy in mentorship and access. Practice that keeps him grounded: Morning ritual: Wordle, Spelling Bee, Duolingo (Spanish & chess), Boggle with a 15-year Australian friend. Principle that guides him: “The answer is no if you don’t ask.” People who changed his trajectory: High school math teachers Don Gifford (law school dean) John Murphy (mentor) Arnold Wiener (father-in-law and legal inspiration) His wife, Debra His children 🌊 FUN FACTS Former Baltimore Orioles mascot Mathematics major Adjunct professor of negotiations & sports law Owns a Hobie Cat sailboat Favorite show: Ted Lasso Favorite music: Jimmy Buffett, Jim Croce, John Denver Favorite podcast: Lost Ballparks Two “crazy” chihuahuas named Rice and Beans ✅ CALLS TO ACTION Learn more about Maryland Youth in the Law (MYLAW): https://www.my-law.org Explore Rifkin Weiner Livingston: https://www.rwllaw.com University of Maryland Francis King Carey School of Law: https://www.law.umaryland.edu

    54 min
  5. 11/20/2025 ·  Video

    Be Brave — Reinvention, Leadership & Authenticity with Hon. Elizabeth A. Gunn

    Hon. Elizabeth A. Gunn, U.S. Bankruptcy Judge for the District of Columbia and recipient of the 2025 American Bar Association Business Bankruptcy Committee’s Kathryn R. Heidt Memorial Award, joins Salene to talk about bravery, authenticity, public service, and the pivots that shape a life in law.   She is Board-Certified in Consumer Bankruptcy by the American Board of Certification. From being bullied in a tiny Oregon town to becoming one of the most recognizable voices in bankruptcy education (including the wildly popular “Bad Boys of Bankruptcy” podcast), Judge Gunn shares candidly about her journey: leaving BigLaw, taking a pay cut for purpose, balancing motherhood with the bench, and finding her voice as a leader. A powerful, warm, and deeply human conversation about resilience, reinvention, and why the scariest decisions are sometimes the truest. ✅ NOTES  Today on The Pivot Playbook, Salene sits down with Hon. Elizabeth A. Gunn, U.S. Bankruptcy Judge for the District of Columbia, marathon runner, mother of two, scholar, podcast creator, and the 2025 recipient of the ABA Business Bankruptcy Committee’s Kathryn R. Heidt Memorial Award. Judge Gunn is known for her intellect, her service, and her creativity — including launching the ABA’s hit series “The Bad Boys of Bankruptcy,” now the most-listened-to podcast in the entire Business Law Section. But behind the accolades is a story of courage, reinvention, and authenticity. ⭐ In this episode, we cover: 1. Her path to the bench—from a tiny Oregon town to Washington, D.C. Growing up as the academically gifted “outsider” Being bullied and persevering Discovering bankruptcy law through Professor Ingrid Hillinger Working BigLaw → regional firm → Virginia AG’s office → federal judge 2. The pivotal moment that changed everything Leaving private practice, taking a massive pay cut, and betting on purpose over prestige — a scary leap that ultimately led to national recognition and her judgeship. 3. Running marathons, building playlists, and her global Starbucks mug wall How running keeps her sane, what she listens to, and why Berlin and Sydney marathons mark chapters in her personal story. 4. Inside the “Bad Boys of Bankruptcy” podcast How it started The wildest stories (Seattle jewel-smuggling fugitives, Dunkin’ Donuts Ponzi schemes, hidden jewelry walls!) How storytelling makes bankruptcy accessible and engaging 5. What it means to be a first-generation lawyer and a woman on the bench Authenticity vs. “playing the role” The “mom finger” for mansplainers Being the only woman in the courtroom Raising confident kids while doing demanding work 6. Judge Gunn’s advice for: Distressed business owners: “Do NOT wait until it’s an 8, 9, or 10 crisis. Come in at a 4 or 5—before it’s too late.” Creditors: “Open your mail. Participate. The squeaky wheel often gets the grease.” 7. The Pivot Playbook Four Pivots Pivot she’s most proud of: Leaving private practice + applying for the bench Practice that keeps her grounded: Being a mom Principle that guides her: Treat people the way you want to be treated Person who changed her trajectory: Her mentor, Roy Terry — and her mother 🔥 MEMORABLE QUOTES  “Sometimes the best decision is the scariest decision. Be brave.” “I wasn’t successful until I stopped trying to be who I thought a lawyer should be — and just became myself.” “If they walked in six months earlier, we could have saved it.” “The bankruptcy code protects the people who show up.” “Treat others the way you want to be treated — it’s not complicated.” “This is probably my last job ever, and I love it.” ✅ CALLS TO ACTION Learn more about the ABA Business Bankruptcy Committee: https://www.americanbar.org/groups/business_law/about/committees/business-bankruptcy/subcommittees/ Listen to Bad Boys of Bankruptcy podcast:  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/to-the-extent-that/id1498999428?i=1000737283314 Connect with Judge Gunn’s work through NCBJ, ABC, ABI, and the Federal Bar Association Learn more about becoming Board-Certified in bankruptcy:  https://abcworld.org

    1h 4m
  6. 10/31/2025 ·  Video

    The Farm “Debt Doctor” of Kansas: Helping Businesses and Families Rebuild with Attorney David Prell Eron

    Episode Description (for Spotify / Apple Podcasts) In this heartfelt Halloween episode of The Pivot Playbook, host Salene Mazur Kraemer sits down with David Prelle Eron, founder of Prelle Eron & Bailey, P.A. in Wichita, Kansas. A business bankruptcy attorney, former U.S. Trustee, and board-certified specialist, David shares his remarkable journey from Los Angeles litigator to Kansas farm bankruptcy expert — and how faith, humility, and perspective guide every pivot. They discuss the power of gratitude, the beauty of second chances, and why “it’s only money” might be the most freeing mantra of all. 🧾 Show Notes Guest: David Prelle Eron Firm: ç (Wichita, KS) Prelle Eron and Bailey, P.A. https://www.eronlaw.net/team-members/david-prelle-eron/   Role: Founder and Managing Partner — Business Bankruptcy, Farm Reorganization (Chapter 12), Chapter 11, and Commercial Litigation Jurisdictions: Kansas (Active), California (Inactive) Certification: Board Certified, Business Bankruptcy — American Board of Certification (ABC) Education: University of Iowa College of Law (J.D., 2002) 🔹 Highlights Founding his Kansas law firm after leaving the U.S. Trustee’s Office — and the courage to create a practice that reflects his values How Chapter 12 “farm bankruptcies” became his specialty — representing over 50% of all Chapter 12 debtors in Kansas Why bankruptcy is the most compassionate area of law, helping people rebuild dignity and stability His mentor’s timeless advice: “Debtors are debtors for a reason.” Serving on the ABC Board of Directors and launching the Membership Committee to connect certified specialists nationwide Why running a law firm means mastering both law and business — “Running a firm is not practicing law.” His personal pivots: from government to entrepreneurship, from lawyer to leader, and from parent to grandparent 💡 Key Takeaways Perspective is everything. “99 times out of 100, whatever you’re dealing with isn’t the end of the universe.” Bankruptcy is grace in action. It’s a safety net that lets families and businesses begin again. Leadership means service. Whether through board work or community faith projects, success is about contribution. Running a business is its own profession. Master your craft — but also learn to manage, lead, and plan. Faith and gratitude fuel longevity. Ground yourself in purpose beyond profits. 💬 Notable Quotes “It’s only money. You can rebuild that. What matters is your health, your faith, and your family.” “Debtors are debtors for a reason — and we’re here to help them anyway.” “Running a law firm isn’t the same as practicing law — it’s a second full-time job.” “I am only here for a short time. Eternity is a very long time.” “Faith, family, and perspective — that’s my definition of success.” ⚡️ Rapid-Fire Highlights Law School: University of Iowa Undergrad: Iowa State University Favorite Show: Seinfeld Bucket List Trip: Italy — Rome, Florence & Venice with his wife Best Gift: A heartfelt two-page text from his daughter on his birthday Recent Trip: Ireland, for the Iowa State vs. Kansas State football game 🇮🇪 Favorite Quote: “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.” Hidden Talent: Scuba certified — last dove Beaver Lake, Arkansas Faith & Service: Active in his Catholic parish; performs in annual church musicals raising $150,000+ for charity Family: 7 children, 5 grandkids (“grandies”), and 2 cats 🐈‍⬛ 🎧 Listen & Subscribe ➡️ The Pivot Playbook with Salene Mazur Kraemer Fresh starts. Turnarounds. Real-life resilience. 🌐 www.MazurKraemer.com #ThePivotPlaybook #MazurKraemer #Podcast #BankruptcyLaw #FaithAndBusiness #Leadership #Resilience #FreshStarts #Entrepreneurship #LawyersOfLinkedIn #BoardCertified #FarmBankruptcy #PivotStories

    35 min
  7. 10/29/2025 ·  Video

    Grace, Grit & Growth: How Attorney Sari Placona Found Her Power — in Law and in Life

    In this inspiring episode of The Pivot Playbook, host Salene Mazur Kraemer talks with Sari Placona, partner at https://www.msbnj.com/  Role: Bankruptcy & Restructuring Attorney — Chapter 11s, litigation, and assignments for the benefit of creditors Jurisdictions: New Jersey & New York Recognition: IWIRC Rising Star Award (2022); Co-Chair, IWIRC New Jersey Network LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sari-b-placona-51849147/  🔹 Highlights Career evolution from paralegal to partner, discovering a passion for restructuring law Leadership in IWIRC New Jersey and the impact of women supporting women Winning the IWIRC Rising Star Award and mentoring other young professionals Experience in complex Chapter 11 cases — including Rite Aid, Bed Bath & Beyond, and Mercedes-Benz How bankruptcy can be a path to renewal, not failure The bold personal pivot of leaving a toxic friendship group and choosing peace Sari’s fitness and mindset transformation, building confidence through discipline 💡 Key Takeaways Pivoting isn’t failure — it’s freedom. Sometimes leaving what no longer serves you opens new doors. Act early. In both business and personal life, clarity comes through decisive action. Strength is contagious. When you show up strong, others do too. Relationships matter. Nurture the ones that support your growth and peace. 💬 Notable Quotes “You should fill the cups that fill your cup.” “When I feel strong physically, I feel like I can take on whatever the day serves me.” “Be a good person — it’s really that simple.” “You can’t always control the storm, but you can pivot your direction.” ⚡️ Rapid-Fire Highlights Law School: Rutgers Law Undergrad: Rutgers University (New Brunswick — Communications & Sociology) Favorite Shows: The Morning Show (Apple TV), Love Is Blind (Netflix) Vacation: Greece with family Best Gift: Whitney Houston memorabilia (and her parents’ unwavering support) Music: Currently on a Taylor Swift kick 🎶 Workout Routine: HIIT and Warrior Sculpt Yoga Favorite City: Chicago Fun Fact: Has a twin brother, Scott, in sports marketing Pet: None (but grew up with a family dog) 🎧 Listen & Subscribe ➡️ The Pivot Playbook with Salene Mazur Kraemer Fresh starts. Turnarounds. Real-life resilience. 🌐 www.MazurKraemer.com #ThePivotPlaybook #MazurKraemer #Podcast #IWIRC #WomenInLaw #Resilience #Leadership #FreshStarts #Reinvention #TurnaroundStories #LawyersOfLinkedIn

    37 min
  8. 10/16/2025 ·  Video

    Tomatoes, Creditors & The Bermuda Triangle: Wisconsin Creditors' Rights Attorney Sam Wisotzkey

    In this episode of The Pivot Playbook, host Salene Mazur Kraemer sits down with Sam Wisotzkey, head of the Business & Financial Services Group at Kohner, Mann & Kailas, S.C. in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.  https://kmksc.com/samuel-c-wisotzkey/  Sam shares his journey from Arizona’s desert to the Great Lakes, how he became one of the Midwest’s top creditors’ rights and business bankruptcy attorneys, and why timing, preparation, and relationships matter most in complex financial workouts. From tomato contracts in California to his great-uncle’s mysterious Bermuda Triangle disappearance, this conversation blends insight, history, and humanity — reminding us that even in law and finance, stories connect us all. 🧾 Show Notes Guest: Sam Wisotzkey Firm: Kohner, Mann & Kailas, S.C. (Milwaukee, WI) Role: Shareholder; Chair of Business & Financial Services Practice Group Specialty: Creditors’ Rights, Business Bankruptcy, Commercial Litigation Certification: Board Certified – Business Bankruptcy Law (American Board of Certification) 🔹 Highlights Sam’s career path from Phoenix to Milwaukee, and how geography shaped his practice His 21-year tenure with the firm and leadership in business bankruptcy and creditors’ rights The story behind a national client and a tomato supply chain — and how quick thinking in a Chapter 11 saved operations nationwide Board service on the American Board of Certification, including work on the Faculty Committee grading exams and developing new content The importance of acting early in distressed situations — and how “strike while the iron is hot” applies in collections and bankruptcy His deep ties to Pittsburgh, where he grew up in the North Hills before heading west A fascinating family mystery: his great-uncle’s disappearance on the USS Cyclops in the Bermuda Triangle Reflections on hiking, family, and storytelling as balancing forces in a demanding practice 💡 Key Takeaways For Creditors: Engage experienced counsel early — delays reduce leverage and recovery. For Professionals: Certification adds credibility and connects you to a national network of experts. For Everyone: Approach challenges with curiosity and calm — “hindsight makes even chaos meaningful.” 💬 Notable Quotes “Things don’t get better with time. Strike while the iron is hot.” “The Bermuda Triangle may be unsolved — but there’s nothing mysterious about the value of acting early.” “Relationships, integrity, and timing: that’s the real formula for a successful bankruptcy practice.” ⚡️ Rapid Fire Highlights Law School: University of Michigan (Go Blue!) Favorite Show: The Bear (Hulu) Movie: The Shawshank Redemption Vacations: Grand Canyon hike to Phantom Ranch; Glacier National Park Dessert: Chocolate mousse or any chocolate cake Best Gift: His two daughters Music: 80s & 90s playlists Podcast: Wait Wait… Don’t Tell Me! (NPR) Favorite City: Amsterdam (and, of course, Milwaukee!) 🎧 Listen & Subscribe ➡️ The Pivot Playbook hosted by Salene Mazur Kraemer Fresh starts. Turnarounds. Reinvention in business and life. 📍 www.MazurKraemer.com #ThePivotPlaybook #MazurKraemer #Podcast #BusinessLaw #BankruptcyLaw #CreditorsRights #Leadership #Resilience #TurnaroundStories #IWIRC #ABCBoardCertified

    24 min
  9. 10/15/2025 ·  Video

    Student Loans, Storytelling and Second Chances: NC Bankruptcy Attorney Ed Boltz

    In this episode of The Pivot Playbook, Salene talks with Ed Bolts, a North Carolina–based consumer bankruptcy attorney who has helped thousands of families reset through Chapter 7 and 13. Ed shares why seeing a lawyer sooner changes everything, how he helped shape the 2022 DOJ/Department of Education student-loan discharge guidelines, and why boundaries and compassion both matter when clients are under stress. They also swap stories about travel, family, and the power of storytelling in advocacy. 🧾 Show Notes Guest: Ed Boltz Location: Durham, North Carolina (statewide practice) Role: Consumer bankruptcy attorney (debtors in Ch. 7 & 13); large NC consumer firm (~12 lawyers, ~70 staff) Credentials & Service: Board Certified bankruptcy specialist since 2004 (legacy; transitioned to ABC in 2007) ABC Board member; Standards/Recertification committee experience Student-loan expertise: Contributed to DOJ/Dept. of Education adversary-proceeding guidelines (2022); alt. member, DOE negotiating rulemaking committee Active with NACBA and related consumer practice groups What we cover Ed’s path from Michigan → North Carolina and into consumer bankruptcy (no classes in law school—learned by doing!) Running a high-volume consumer practice: why paralegal ops matter and how the work is equal parts law + social work Student loans in/around bankruptcy: how the 2022 DOJ/DOE guidance opened doors, and coordinating non-BK and BK options Boundaries & burnout: being compassionate without carrying every client’s entire life home The stigma of bankruptcy and why clients should talk to counsel earlier (before making avoidable mistakes) A favorite moment: a car-wash selfie with a young man whose family kept their home through a Chapter 13—the “why” behind the work Storytelling, community, and purpose: Ed’s local storytelling nonprofit (The Monti) and why narrative skills make better lawyers Key takeaways Don’t wait. Most consumers would be better off meeting a bankruptcy lawyer sooner, not after doing “fixes” that cause clawbacks/delays. Student-loan relief is evolving. With the 2022 DOJ/DOE framework, undue hardship cases are more navigable—if you know the playbook. Compassion + boundaries = sustainable advocacy. Hold empathy, set limits, serve the next client well. Consumer practice is retail law: systems, staffing, and consistent communication are everything. Notable quotes “Most people would have been better off if they came to see a bankruptcy attorney sooner.” “Our clients can drain the emotional well—compassion needs boundaries so we can help the next person.” “I love finding a Chapter 11 idea and translating it to Chapter 13—if it’s good for the goose, it’s good for the gander.” “Bankruptcy law can feel like a magic wand when used well—homes and futures get saved.” Rapid-fire highlights Law school: George Washington (GW Law) Undergrad: Washington University in St. Louis Streaming: Ozark; currently Hightown Movies: The Lord of the Rings (also loves classic comedy Blazing Saddles) Recent trip: A week in Barcelona with his daughters Dessert: Anything chocolate + peanut butter; signature strawberry-rhubarb pie Best gift: Great-grandfather’s pocket watch (family heirloom) Last song: “I’m Broke” — Black Joe Lewis & the Honeybears Podcast pick: Swindled Pet: “Nessie,” a sweet Carolina dog Favorite city visited: Istanbul Guest links The Monti (storytelling nonprofit): https://www.themonti.org/storytellers/ed-boltz  Ed’s professional profile/firm: https://www.billsbills.com/attorneys/edward-c-boltz  Host: Salene Mazur Kraemer Podcast: The Pivot Playbook — Fresh starts, turnarounds, and real-life resilience. CTA: Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube. Share this episode with a friend who’s navigating debt or a big life pivot.

    31 min
  10. Sewing Threads of Connection: Minneapolis’ Ella Vincent on Mentorship and Meaning in Law"

    10/08/2025 ·  Video

    Sewing Threads of Connection: Minneapolis’ Ella Vincent on Mentorship and Meaning in Law"

    In this episode of The Pivot Playbook, host Salene Mazur Kraemer interviews Ella Vincent, Senior Specialist Legal Editor for Practical Law, Thomson Reuters, and Chair of the Young and New Lawyer Subcommittee of the ABA Business Bankruptcy Committee (BBC). Ella shares her inspiring journey from private practice in Seattle to her “dream job” writing and maintaining national bankruptcy and restructuring content. She opens up about her passion for mentorship, her leadership in launching the BBC Match Portal—a first-of-its-kind platform connecting lawyers to writing and speaking opportunities—and her mission to make the bankruptcy bar more welcoming to new practitioners. From municipal healthcare restructurings to balancing work and motherhood in Minneapolis, Ella reminds us that bankruptcy practice is about more than numbers — it’s about people, community, and service. 👩‍💼 Guest: Ella Vincent Senior Specialist Legal Editor, Bankruptcy & Restructuring Practical Law | Thomson Reuters Based in: Minneapolis, Minnesota 🌐 Professional Affiliations: American Bar Association – Business Bankruptcy Committee (BBC) Chair, Young and New Lawyer Subcommittee Coordinator, BBC Match Portal Initiative 🗒️ Topics Covered: Transitioning from private practice to legal publishing Developing bankruptcy and restructuring content for Thomson Reuters Practical Law The launch and purpose of the ABA BBC’s Match Portal Mentorship, connection, and growth for young attorneys The real-life impact of restructuring work — from hospitals to communities Work-life balance, motherhood, and rediscovering creative hobbies like baking and sewing 💬 Key Takeaways: “Bankruptcy is not a theoretical practice — it has real-life implications for people and communities.” “Getting involved early gives clients more options — and better outcomes.” “Mentorship opens doors and makes our profession stronger.” 🌟 Personal Highlights: First job: fishmonger — “It taught me customer service, preparation, and knowing your product.” Favorite dessert: anything chocolate — from cookies to flourless torts. Favorite vacation: snorkeling with sea turtles in Kona, Hawaii. Annual tradition: the Minnesota State Fair with her husband and young son. 🔗 Connect with Ella: LinkedIn – Ella Vincent Thomson Reuters Practical Law ABA Business Bankruptcy Committee 🎧 Host: Salene Mazur Kraemer, Esq. The Pivot Playbook — Rescuing Business, Redesigning Midlife www.MazurKraemer.com

    23 min
  11. From Farms to Hospitals: Saving Businesses and Communities with NC Restructuring Attorney Jennifer Lyday (VIDEO Version)

    10/08/2025 ·  Video

    From Farms to Hospitals: Saving Businesses and Communities with NC Restructuring Attorney Jennifer Lyday (VIDEO Version)

    In this episode of The Pivot Playbook, host Salene Mazur Kraemer sits down with Jennifer Lyday, a seasoned Chapter 11 practitioner and partner at Waldrip, Wall, Babcock & Bailey in Winston-Salem, North Carolina. They are both West Virginia natives and adoptive moms and members of IWIRC- International Women's Insolvency and Restructuring Confederation. From helping farmers preserve generational land to steering hospitals through financial distress, Jennifer brings humanity and heart to the practice of insolvency law. They discuss her journey from Spanish major to bankruptcy attorney, her deep ties to IWIRC’s Carolinas Network, and how she balances professional purpose with her roles as a mom of three and an adoption advocate. Jennifer shares wisdom on why clients should “never wait too long” to seek help, and the profound satisfaction that comes from saving not just a business — but a community. Guest: Jennifer Lyday Firm: Waldrip, Wall, Babcock & Bailey, Winston-Salem, NC Website: https://www.waldrepwall.com/ Professional Affiliations: International Women’s Insolvency and Reorganization Confederation (Vice Director of Member Services, 2024 Board of Directors; Board Member and Former Communications Chair of the Carolinas Network) Topics Covered: Jennifer’s path from Wake Forest to William & Mary Law, and how a mentor sparked her passion for bankruptcy law. The power of female representation in federal practice areas and the supportive network of IWIRC. Her love for Chapter 12 farming clients and rural hospitals, where legal work truly transforms lives. Insights for business owners in distress — and what not to do when facing financial trouble. Adoption and motherhood: building family through love, faith, and openness. Her favorite things — from hiking the Camino de Santiago to Christian metal playlists. Key Takeaways: “You can’t come to an insolvency practitioner too soon.” “Integrity and gratitude make the best clients.” “When you stabilize a hospital, you stabilize a community.” Connect with Jennifer: LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifer-lyday-5509251b/ Host: Salene Mazur Kraemer Podcast: The Pivot Playbook — Rescuing Business, Redesigning Midlife

    23 min

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A conversation with restructuring professionals, business leaders, and growth-minded coaches about pivotal strategies to rescue businesses and inspire midlifers to redesign their lives.  End goal- self-actualization.  The Pivot Playbook Podcast is where fresh starts meet real strategy. Host Salene Mazur Kraemer, Esq., CTA, MBA—board-certified business bankruptcy attorney and founder of MazurKraemer Business Law Group—breaks down the moves that save companies and reset lives. Each episode features candid conversations with turnaround CEOs, finance pros, franchise and SBA experts, lawyers, and growth coaches. We cover business topics like cash-flow triage, personal guarantees, asset protection, buying or fixing a business.   At the same time, we often talk about important personal issues that hit midlifers hard- empty nest, aging parents, financial tips, limiting beliefs, relationship repair, health challenges, parenting woes, physical fitness, career reinvention, and creative flow.  You’ll hear case-study breakdowns, 3-minute “Legal Playbook” explainers, and coach-level frameworks you can apply today. If you’re navigating change—by choice or by circumstance—this is your weekly guide to a smarter pivot.