The Pivot Playbook-rescuing businesses, redesigning midlife

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A conversation with restructuring professionals, business leaders, and growth-minded coaches about pivotal strategies to rescue businesses and inspire midlifers to redesign their lives.  End goal- self-actualization.  The Pivot Playbook Podcast is where fresh starts meet real strategy. Host Salene Mazur Kraemer, Esq., CTA, MBA—board-certified business bankruptcy attorney and founder of MazurKraemer Business Law Group—breaks down the moves that save companies and reset lives. Each episode features candid conversations with turnaround CEOs, finance pros, franchise and SBA experts, lawyers, and growth coaches. We cover business topics like cash-flow triage, personal guarantees, asset protection, buying or fixing a business.   At the same time, we often talk about important personal issues that hit midlifers hard- empty nest, aging parents, financial tips, limiting beliefs, relationship repair, health challenges, parenting woes, physical fitness, career reinvention, and creative flow.  You’ll hear case-study breakdowns, 3-minute “Legal Playbook” explainers, and coach-level frameworks you can apply today. If you’re navigating change—by choice or by circumstance—this is your weekly guide to a smarter pivot.

  1. Oct 29 ·  Video

    Embracing Change: Entrepreneurship, Reinvention, Mentorship and Finding Purpose Beyond Success

    Laura Kurtz Kuhns, President and CEO of Vandalia Heritage Foundation, and Susan McCarthy, founder of McCarthy Public Relations, join Salene for a conversation about career reinvention, entrepreneurship, leadership, mentorship, and finding purpose at every stage of life. From Laura's unexpected journey from television production to Capitol Hill, economic development, and historic preservation, to Susan's career in corporate public relations and her decision to launch her own business, both women share how unexpected setbacks created opportunities they never anticipated. An inspiring conversation about taking risks, building meaningful relationships, embracing change, redefining success in midlife, and why the most rewarding chapters of our lives may still be ahead.   ✅ NOTES Today on The Pivot Playbook, Salene sits down with two accomplished women whose careers demonstrate the power of reinvention, resilience, and meaningful relationships. Laura Kurtz Kuhns is President and CEO of Vandalia Heritage Foundation, a nonprofit organization dedicated to historic preservation, community revitalization, and economic development in Northern West Virginia. Throughout her career, Laura has overseen more than 50 redevelopment and preservation projects, worked on Capitol Hill, supported regional economic development, and helped communities rediscover their identity and potential. Susan McCarthy is the founder of McCarthy Public Relations, established in 2004. With decades of experience in advertising, public relations, marketing, and special events, Susan helps small businesses and nonprofit organizations build visibility, strengthen their brands, and connect with their communities. What makes their stories unique? Both women have experienced unexpected professional changes, taken risks, and built successful careers through relationships, adaptability, and a willingness to embrace new opportunities. Now, they're exploring ways to combine their expertise to help organizations and communities thrive. ⭐ IN THIS EPISODE, WE COVER: 1. Laura's Pivot: From Television Production to Capitol Hill Laura began her career in television production in Morgantown, West Virginia. She was working in public television, producing documentaries and live entertainment programming, when a friend encouraged her to interview for a position in Washington, D.C. At just 25, Laura agreed to the interview without seriously expecting a job offer. But she received one. She joined the office of Congressman Alan Mollohan, initially working in an entry-level position. The transition wasn't easy. Laura recalls feeling miserable at first, but she soon recognized the extraordinary opportunity in front of her. Over time, she advanced into legislative and project development work, helping West Virginia communities and businesses navigate federal programs and pursue economic development opportunities. Her work included: Federal appropriations initiatives Community infrastructure projects Small-business advocacy Economic development Government contracting and technology initiatives Laura credits Congressman Mollohan with recognizing her potential and giving her opportunities that changed the direction of her career. The lesson: Sometimes the opportunities we never planned to pursue become the most transformative experiences of our lives. 2. Susan's Pivot: From Corporate Public Relations to Entrepreneurship Susan's career began after graduating from West Virginia University with a journalism degree. She moved to Washington, D.C., where she worked in advertising and association marketing before returning to Pennsylvania. Her professional journey included positions with: J. Walter Thompson National Recreation and Park Association American Bankers Association Air & Waste Management Association ServiceStar/TruServ Nemacolin Woodlands Resort At Nemacolin, Susan spent approximately six years directing public relations and helping build the resort's reputation. Her experience included coordinating media relations for visits involving Presidents Bill Clinton and George H. W. Bush. But when her position ended unexpectedly, Susan faced a major decision. Rather than returning to another corporate position, she launched her own public relations firm in 2004. More than two decades later, McCarthy Public Relations continues to serve small businesses and nonprofit organizations. "Embrace it, and good things happen that way." The takeaway: Losing a job can feel like an ending, but sometimes it provides the push needed to pursue independence. 3. Building a Business That Lasts More Than 20 Years Susan reflects on the realities of entrepreneurship. Owning a business requires: Financial discipline Strong client relationships Adaptability Consistent service A willingness to take risks The ability to navigate unexpected challenges She acknowledges that running a business isn't easy. "It's not for the faint of heart." But she also believes that entrepreneurship has given her the freedom to build a career aligned with her strengths and interests. Susan's ideal clients are small businesses and nonprofit organizations that need professional marketing and public relations support without hiring a full-time employee. Her services include: Public relations and media outreach Social media management Website content Electronic newsletters Copywriting Special events Marketing strategy Susan emphasizes that small organizations can benefit from experienced outside professionals who function as an extension of their team. The lesson: Sustainable entrepreneurship isn't simply about launching a business. It's about adapting, serving clients well, and maintaining relationships over time. 4. Historic Preservation as Economic Development Laura discusses the work of Vandalia Heritage Foundation and the challenges of revitalizing historic communities. Through Vandalia, she has worked on projects involving: Historic building preservation Downtown revitalization Community development Affordable housing Redevelopment of distressed properties Planning and technical assistance for local governments and nonprofits Laura explains that historic preservation is often financially challenging. Some buildings require substantial investment and may never generate conventional financial returns. But she believes success should sometimes be measured differently. "Sometimes just saving that building and moving on is a win." For Laura, preserving a building can also preserve a community's identity, history, and sense of pride. She shares the example of Piedmont, West Virginia, where community history, architecture, and a strong tradition of school athletics helped reveal what made the town special. The takeaway: Community revitalization isn't just about buildings and financial investment. It's about restoring pride, identity, and a sense of possibility. 5. New Opportunities: Affordable Housing and National Expansion Laura discusses her involvement with National Community Renaissance, a nonprofit affordable housing developer. After years of board service, she has become involved in efforts to explore expansion beyond the organization's established geographic markets. Her work includes identifying potential development opportunities and evaluating communities that may benefit from affordable housing investment. She also discusses the role of Opportunity Zones in encouraging investment in underserved areas. Laura's experience illustrates how expertise developed over decades can open doors to entirely new opportunities. Even as Vandalia's traditional property portfolio changes, she continues exploring ways to apply her knowledge to new projects. The lesson: Reinvention doesn't always mean abandoning your experience. Sometimes it means applying that experience in a new environment. 6. The Power of Mentorship and Relationships One of the strongest themes throughout the conversation is the importance of relationships. Laura credits Congressman Alan Mollohan with helping shape her career. She describes how he recognized abilities she had not fully recognized in herself. Susan similarly reflects on the relationships that helped her establish and sustain her public relations business. Many of her earliest clients came from professional connections developed during her years at Nemacolin. Laura and Susan also discuss how their own professional relationship developed through a shared project. Their complementary skills and collaborative approach created a lasting friendship. They are now exploring additional opportunities to work together. The takeaway: Careers aren't built in isolation. Mentors, colleagues, clients, and friends often create the opportunities that change our lives. 7. When Losing a Job Becomes an Opportunity Both guests share stories of unexpected career setbacks. Laura describes losing an important position in her thirties despite believing she had performed exceptionally well. At first, the experience was difficult to understand. But the setback ultimately opened doors. She received numerous expressions of interest from other employers and eventually chose a completely different direction: real estate development. A development firm recruited her to open an office in North Central West Virginia. Laura initially questioned whether she had the necessary experience. But the firm's leadership valued her understanding of the region, business challenges, and even her experience with failure. "That's why we want you, because you understand failure." Susan shares a similar experience. Her career changes—from Washington to Pittsburgh, from corporate marketing to hospitality, and eventually to entrepreneurship—often began with circumstances outside her control. Looking back, she sees how each transition helped prepare her

    Embracing Change: Entrepreneurship, Reinvention, Mentorship and Finding Purpose Beyond Success

  2. Oct 27 ·  Video

    Cutting Your Own Path: From Exercise Physiology to Law, Entrepreneurship, Faith and Finding Purpose with Glenn Bartifay

    Glenn Bartifay, a Pittsburgh-area attorney and longtime solo practitioner who works with MazurKraemer Business Law, joins Salene for a candid conversation about career reinvention, entrepreneurship, financial discipline, faith, relationships, and building a meaningful life. From an early career in coaching and exercise physiology to entering law school in his late twenties and launching his own practice in 1999, Glenn shares how his desire for independence shaped his professional journey. A thoughtful, personal conversation about serving clients, confronting adversity, building financial security, finding gratitude in difficult experiences, and why a clear vision and strong principles matter more than simply chasing success. ✅ NOTES Today on The Pivot Playbook, Salene sits down with Glenn Bartifay, a Pennsylvania attorney who has practiced independently since 1999 and collaborates with MazurKraemer Business Law. Glenn's practice includes: Consumer bankruptcy, including Chapter 13 Real estate transactions and litigation Civil and commercial litigation Estate matters Business formations and corporate transactions What makes his career distinctive? Glenn didn't begin his professional life as an attorney. He first worked in coaching and exercise physiology before deciding, in his late twenties, to pursue a completely different career. After graduating from the University of Pittsburgh School of Law, he worked in a general practice firm, gaining exposure to different areas of law before developing his own practice. He later established his own law firm and operated a real estate settlement business, Renaissance Settlements. For Glenn, the decision to become a solo practitioner was about more than professional independence. It was about having the freedom to make decisions, serve clients according to his principles, and create his own path through life. "I was someone who wanted to cut my own path through life." ⭐ IN THIS EPISODE, WE COVER: 1. The First Pivot: From Exercise Physiology to Law Glenn's first major career pivot came when he was approaching 30. As a young man, he worked in coaching and exercise physiology. But he eventually began considering a professional career that would offer different opportunities. He explored several possibilities: Engineering Medicine Chiropractic Accounting Law He ultimately chose law because he believed his ability to construct and communicate arguments would serve him well as an attorney. There was also a practical consideration: unlike several of the other professions he considered, law school did not require him to complete additional undergraduate coursework. He entered law school at approximately 27 and graduated around age 30. The lesson: Your first career doesn't have to be your final career. Sometimes the skills you've developed point toward an entirely different professional path. 2. Starting His Own Firm: The Freedom to Make His Own Decisions After law school, Glenn joined the general practice of attorney Alan Hertzberg. Working in a small firm gave him exposure to a broad range of legal matters. He discovered which practice areas interested him and which did not. Over time, he focused on bankruptcy, real estate, litigation, estates, and business-related matters. In 1999, Glenn established his own practice. He explains that being a solo practitioner offered something he valued deeply: independence. He wanted to control: The direction of his practice The clients and matters he accepted The services his firm provided His professional priorities The decisions affecting his business Glenn acknowledges that business ownership isn't for everyone. Running a law firm means taking responsibility not only for legal work but also for administration, employees, finances, and the long-term direction of the business. "As an owner, you're responsible for everything." The takeaway: Entrepreneurship offers freedom, but that freedom comes with responsibility. 3. Why Vision Matters in Business Ownership One of Glenn's central themes is the importance of having a clear vision. He believes business owners need to think beyond the immediate demands of their work. Rather than simply managing today's problems, they should regularly consider what they want their businesses to look like in the future. That means asking: What is the purpose of the business? Where should it be in five or ten years? Are its expenses sustainable? Is the business creating lasting financial value? How can client service improve? What changes would make operations more efficient? Glenn cautions against becoming so consumed with daily responsibilities that the larger vision disappears. "Trying to see the vision forward in the future and doing what it takes to make sure that happens." The lesson: A business needs more than activity and revenue. It needs direction. 4. Redefining Success: Good Results Before Financial Rewards When Salene asks Glenn how he defines success, his answer centers on client service. For Glenn, professional satisfaction comes from helping people solve problems they cannot resolve on their own. He recognizes that clients generally seek legal counsel during difficult or uncertain circumstances. His goal is to provide a favorable result at a fair price. "I just like getting a good result for a client that's in need." He also shares a financial philosophy that has guided his career. Rather than relying heavily on borrowing, Glenn emphasizes: Paying down debt Controlling expenses Accumulating wealth over time Maintaining sustainable profit margins Avoiding unnecessary financial obligations He believes business owners can undermine their long-term financial security when too much income is consumed by debt payments. But financial performance isn't his primary measure of professional accomplishment. "The emphasis has always been on providing good service for the clients, and then the money just comes." The takeaway: Financial success and meaningful service aren't mutually exclusive. For Glenn, putting clients first has been central to achieving both. 5. Midlife Perspective: An Attitude of Gratitude One of the most reflective moments comes when Glenn discusses what age and experience have taught him. He acknowledges that everyone encounters disappointments, setbacks, regrets, and difficult experiences. But he has developed a different way of looking at the past. Rather than dwelling on what went wrong, he tries to appreciate how those experiences shaped the person he has become. "I try to have an attitude of gratitude for all past experiences because they helped to form me into the person I am now." Glenn believes that even painful experiences can offer valuable lessons. Instead of allowing regret or resentment to define the future, he encourages people to recognize what adversity has taught them. Salene relates this perspective to the challenges people face in midlife, including: Divorce and relationship difficulties Aging parents Raising children Financial pressures Professional stress Business setbacks Both recognize that professional and personal challenges are often deeply interconnected. The lesson: We cannot change the past, but we can change the meaning we assign to it. 6. Faith, Purpose and Spirituality Faith plays a central role in Glenn's understanding of purpose and happiness. He discusses the influence of The Purpose Driven Life and his commitment to Christian principles. For Glenn, spirituality is not something separate from his professional life. It informs how he approaches: Client relationships Business decisions Personal responsibilities Community involvement Marriage and family Ethical questions He believes living consistently with his faith creates a stronger sense of purpose. He also emphasizes that he does not want to impose his beliefs on others. Rather, he explains how those beliefs have shaped his own decisions and outlook. The takeaway: Knowing what you believe and allowing those principles to guide your choices can create consistency between your professional and personal life. 7. Why Relationships and Community Matter Glenn and Salene explore the complicated nature of human relationships. Glenn acknowledges that relationships can be difficult. People are emotional, unpredictable, and sometimes disappointing. But he also believes relationships are essential to personal growth. Interacting with others challenges us to examine our own behavior and understand how we affect the people around us. "Nothing really sharpens us more than being in relationships with people." Salene discusses the importance of community, particularly for solo practitioners, divorced individuals, and people working remotely. She reflects on how isolation can become the default when people are overwhelmed by professional or personal challenges. Together, they discuss the importance of remaining connected rather than withdrawing entirely after painful experiences. Glenn encourages people to learn from past relationships, practice self-examination, and remain open to future connections. The lesson: Relationships may challenge us, but they also provide opportunities for growth, perspective, and connection. 8. Business Advice: Avoid Excessive Debt and Keep the Big Picture in Focus Drawing on decades of experience representing businesses and individuals facing financial challenges, Glenn shares his philosophy of sustainable business ownership. He believes business owners should regularly evaluate: Whether income exceeds expenses Whether the business carries excessive debt Whether operations can become more efficient Whether client service can improve Whether the business is building long-term financial security He cautions against assuming that selling a busi

    Cutting Your Own Path: From Exercise Physiology to Law, Entrepreneurship, Faith and Finding Purpose with Glenn Bartifay

  3. Oct 27 ·  Video

    Trust Your Gut: From Career Setback to Romance Author and Entrepreneur with Cori Wamsley

    Cori Wamsley, sweet romance author, writing coach, and founder of Aurora Corialis Publishing Services, joins Salene for an in-person episode recorded at Uptown Coffee in Mount Lebanon, Pennsylvania, to talk about career reinvention, entrepreneurship, storytelling, authenticity, and trusting your instincts. From scientific writing for the FBI and U.S. Department of Energy to an unexpected layoff while raising two young children, Cori shares how a professional setback led her toward freelance writing, book coaching, author services, and a successful creative career. A candid, engaging conversation about starting over, finding your voice, writing your own story, and why sometimes the best thing you can do is stop forcing what isn't working. ✅ NOTES Today on The Pivot Playbook, Salene sits down with Cori Wamsley — sweet romance author, writing coach, and author services provider based in the Pittsburgh area. Cori is the founder of Aurora Corialis Publishing Services, where she helps fiction and nonfiction authors develop compelling narratives and build sustainable writing careers. Her work focuses on: Writing coaching and manuscript development Emotional-arc storytelling Character-driven fiction Editing and narrative development Helping nonfiction authors communicate their expertise and personal stories Guiding authors through the writing process and the business of authorship What makes Cori's approach unique? She combines a background in scientific and technical writing, creative fiction, editing, coaching, and small-press publishing with an understanding of the emotional connections that make stories memorable. Her career wasn't built according to a single plan. It evolved through unexpected circumstances, curiosity, creativity, and the willingness to change direction. ⭐ IN THIS EPISODE, WE COVER: 1. The Pivot: From Scientific Writer to Creative Entrepreneur Cori began her professional career with an unusual academic combination: Bachelor's degree in biology from West Virginia University Bachelor's degree in English Master's degree in English She worked as a scientific and technical writer and editor for the FBI before moving to the Pittsburgh area to work at the National Energy Technology Laboratory, part of the U.S. Department of Energy. Her work involved translating complex scientific information into stories that ordinary people could understand. But approximately eight years into her work at the laboratory, everything changed. On her youngest child's first birthday, Cori learned that she was being laid off as part of a major reduction in her department. At home with a one-year-old and a three-year-old, she suddenly faced an uncertain professional future. Rather than returning immediately to a traditional position, she began exploring freelance writing. That decision eventually opened the door to an entirely different career. The lesson: Sometimes losing the career you planned creates room for the career you were meant to build. 2. How a Layoff Led to Aurora Corialis Publishing Services Cori initially offered freelance writing services, including: Press releases Website content Scientific and technical writing Business communications But something interesting kept happening at networking events. Whenever she mentioned that she also wrote books, people wanted to know how they could write one themselves. Entrepreneurs, speakers, and professionals began asking for help turning their expertise and experiences into books. Cori recognized an opportunity. She expanded into book coaching, editing, and eventually small-press publishing. Today, her business has evolved again. Aurora Corialis Publishing Services now focuses on author services rather than publishing books for other authors. Cori helps writers develop stronger manuscripts, refine their storytelling, and approach their writing careers with greater clarity. Her journey demonstrates that entrepreneurship often involves a series of pivots rather than one dramatic transformation. 3. Why Professionals Should Consider Writing a Book Salene and Cori discuss why attorneys, entrepreneurs, coaches, speakers, and other professionals might consider becoming authors. A book can: Demonstrate expertise and credibility Share valuable knowledge with potential clients Create opportunities for speaking engagements Help professionals develop their personal brands Communicate experiences that may help others Build lasting connections with readers Cori explains that a book can give someone a tangible way to continue engaging with a speaker or professional after an event. Rather than immediately purchasing an expensive service, an audience member can begin by reading the author's work. The conversation also explores collaborative books, in which multiple contributors share their experiences around a common theme. Cori describes previous projects involving women, personal challenges, and nonprofit partnerships. The takeaway: A book can be more than a product. It can be a way to educate, connect, and create meaningful opportunities. 4. The Business of Writing and Author Services Salene asks practical questions about what it takes to turn a manuscript into a finished book. Drawing on her earlier publishing experience, Cori discusses: Book coaching Manuscript editing Cover design Production Marketing and book launches Collaborative author projects Hybrid and self-publishing models The importance of defining a book's purpose She also explains why authors need to understand their audience and participate actively in promoting their work. Even an excellent book needs a plan for reaching readers. Important distinction: The publishing packages, pricing, and royalty arrangements discussed in the interview reflect Cori's earlier publishing model, not necessarily her current author services offerings. 5. From Writing Other People's Stories to Creating Her Own Cori has been writing fiction since childhood. Her novels focus on relationships, emotional growth, friendship, second chances, and the choices that shape our lives. Her writing blends humor and heartfelt storytelling, with a sweet-romance approach that avoids explicit scenes. During the interview, she discusses Ashes and Other Inheritances, a novel inspired by a historic theater tragedy in Canonsburg, Pennsylvania. The inspiration came from an unexpected place: a conversation with her hairstylist. When Cori learned about the local historical event, she immediately recognized the possibilities for a compelling story. She began imagining a character who discovers a journal connected to the tragedy and uncovers a mystery while navigating her own personal transformation. Cori also discusses her fiction-writing process and how years of reading, studying literature, and writing novels helped her understand character development and narrative structure. Her books include: Exactly What It Looks Like Something Worth Keeping, launching in November 2026 Ashes and Other Inheritances Several earlier fiction titles The lesson: Inspiration can come from anywhere, but transforming an idea into a meaningful story takes curiosity, practice, and persistence. 6. Authenticity in the Age of AI One of the most timely discussions in the episode centers on artificial intelligence, social media, and authentic communication. Cori shares her frustration with online content that increasingly sounds the same. She has noticed more formulaic posts, impersonal marketing, and messages focused on selling rather than building relationships. Instead of following those trends, she has chosen to share more of her authentic personality and creative life. Salene offers another perspective. As a law firm owner, she uses ChatGPT to help draft social media posts, but reviews and edits the content to ensure that it reflects her own voice. Together, they explore the balance between efficiency and authenticity. Cori emphasizes that people want to connect with real human beings, not just polished business profiles. "Nobody wants to talk to perfect people." The takeaway: Technology can help us communicate, but our experiences, personalities, and relationships are what make our stories meaningful. 7. Personal Reinvention: Divorce, Relocation, and Starting Over Cori's pivots haven't been limited to her career. She shares how she married shortly after college and divorced several years later. After the divorce, she recognized that remaining in her hometown of Bridgeport, West Virginia, wasn't allowing her to move forward. She wanted new opportunities and a different environment. Cori began exploring positions in Pittsburgh, where her best friend lived. Interestingly, her existing employer ultimately helped facilitate a transfer when an opportunity became available. The decision to pursue change led to a new chapter in Pittsburgh. She later remarried and built a family with her husband and twin daughters. For Cori, the pivotal moment wasn't knowing exactly what would happen next. It was recognizing that her existing circumstances no longer felt right and taking steps toward something different. The lesson: You don't always need to know the destination before deciding it's time to move. 8. Midlife Perspective: People Aren't Judging You as Much as You Think One of the most relatable moments comes when Cori discusses a lesson she recently shared with her teenage daughter. Her daughter was nervous about giving a classroom presentation. Cori reminded her that most people are far less focused on scrutinizing others than we imagine. She reflects on how much time she spent as a teenager and young adult worrying about other people's opinions. With age and experience, she has learned to let go of some of that self-consciousness. Salene relates this to her work in portrait photography. When peopl

    Trust Your Gut: From Career Setback to Romance Author and Entrepreneur with Cori Wamsley

  4. May 29 ·  Video

    Purpose Over Perfection: How Tampa FL Restructuring Attorney Stephanie Lieb Defines Success Now

    Purpose Over Perfection: How Tampa FL Restructuring Attorney Stephanie Lieb Defines Success Now Purpose Over Perfection: How Tampa FL Restructuring Attorney Stephanie Lieb Defines Success Now         Stephanie Lieb — shareholder at Trenam Law and newly inducted Fellow of the American College of Bankruptcy — joins Salene for a deeply human conversation about ambition, grief, motherhood, leadership, and redefining success in midlife. With more than two decades of experience in creditors’ rights and bankruptcy law, Stephanie reflects on the unexpected path that led her into insolvency practice after Hurricane Katrina — and the personal loss that later reshaped the way she approaches life itself. What emerges is a conversation about intentionality: building a meaningful career while refusing to postpone joy, family, or fulfillment for “someday.” A powerful episode about resilience, grace, perspective, and choosing to live fully now — not later. ✅ NOTES Today on The Pivot Playbook, Salene speaks with Stephanie Lieb, shareholder at Trenam Law in Tampa, Florida. Stephanie’s practice includes: Creditors’ rights and bankruptcy litigation Representation of financial institutions and commercial landlords Fiduciary work Real estate and title litigation Buyer-side asset acquisitions in bankruptcy General counsel work for the Diocese of St. Petersburg She also serves as: Fellow of the American College of Bankruptcy (2024) Chair of the Business Law Section of the Florida Bar representing more than 6,000 attorneys A highly respected 20-year practitioner deeply rooted in the Tampa Bay community ⭐ IN THIS EPISODE, WE COVER: 1. Falling Into Bankruptcy — and Never Leaving Stephanie never planned to become a bankruptcy lawyer. As a law student at Tulane University, Hurricane Katrina abruptly displaced her from New Orleans and sent her back home to Tampa. Looking for available coursework, she enrolled in a bankruptcy class taught by Judge Alexander Paskay. That decision changed the trajectory of her entire career. She went on to: Intern for Judge Paskay Clerk for two bankruptcy judges Build a long-term practice in insolvency and restructuring “I had never even heard of bankruptcy… and I’ve never really looked back.” 2. A Practice Built on Variety and Curiosity One of the things Stephanie loves most about bankruptcy law is that no two cases are ever the same. Because insolvency touches nearly every industry and legal discipline, the work constantly exposes her to new businesses, operational structures, and challenges. From agriculture and manufacturing to aviation startups and technology companies, every engagement becomes an education. “You learn about everything — sausage factories, tech companies, agriculture… it’s never the same twice.” That intellectual variety is what has kept the work engaging for more than twenty years. 3. Why Diversification Makes Better Lawyers Stephanie intentionally built a diversified practice over time. In addition to creditors’ rights litigation, her work includes: Bankruptcy acquisitions Complex litigation Fiduciary matters General counsel representation for the Diocese of St. Petersburg That role, which supports Catholic schools and diocesan operations across multiple counties, has become one of the most meaningful parts of her professional life. Her philosophy is simple: “Doing different types of work makes you a better lawyer.” 4. A Case That Reinforced Her Sense of Purpose One of Stephanie’s most memorable cases involved an elderly blind woman who had been defrauded out of her life savings. The litigation required years of persistence and asset tracing. Although the client passed away before the matter concluded, Stephanie ultimately recovered assets for the woman’s family. The experience left a lasting impression. “It felt like we were doing right by her.” Moments like that continue to shape how Stephanie thinks about advocacy, purpose, and responsibility. 5. The Personal Pivot That Changed Everything Stephanie’s most defining pivot was not professional — it was personal. Ten years ago, her father passed away suddenly at age 67. He had done everything “correctly”: Worked hard Saved responsibly Retired at 65 But he only had two years to enjoy retirement. That loss fundamentally changed Stephanie’s relationship with time. “I’m not going to wait to do the things I want to do.” Since then, she has intentionally prioritized: Meaningful travel Family experiences Presence over postponement Living fully in the present “We’re not promised tomorrow.” 6. Redefining Success in Midlife Stephanie’s definition of success has evolved significantly over the years. Today, success means: Raising healthy, grounded children Supporting her partners and colleagues Serving clients well Keeping commitments Giving herself grace Most importantly, she’s learned to release the pressure of excelling in every role simultaneously. “Some days I’m a great mom. Some days I’m a great lawyer. They’re not always the same day — and that’s okay.” It’s one of the most honest and resonant moments of the episode. 7. Practical Advice for Creditors and Debtors Stephanie also shares grounded advice for businesses and individuals facing financial distress. Her perspective: Bankruptcy can create structure It can provide breathing room But it does not magically erase underlying problems She encourages clients to stay realistic, solution-oriented, and proactive. “Bankruptcy is a place to consolidate problems — not eliminate them.” 8. Leadership Through Service and Community Stephanie’s leadership extends well beyond her practice. At Trenam Law, she values the firm’s deep investment in the Tampa Bay business community — supporting local companies, entrepreneurship, and economic growth. Her broader leadership includes: Chairing the Florida Bar Business Law Section National bankruptcy leadership roles Mentorship of younger attorneys Service-oriented professional leadership Community, for Stephanie, is not separate from professional success — it is part of it. 9. Living with Intention At the center of Stephanie’s philosophy is intentionality. She believes in: Being fully present Investing deeply in relationships Pursuing meaningful work Experiencing joy now, not later Outside of work, balance comes through: Yoga and power flow classes International travel Supporting her children’s activities and sports “I love culture shock. I love figuring things out.” That curiosity and openness to experience continues to shape both her career and her life. 🔥 MEMORABLE QUOTES “I fell into bankruptcy — and never looked back.” “We’re not promised tomorrow.” “Don’t wait to do the things you want to do.” “Bankruptcy consolidates problems — it doesn’t eliminate them.” “Some days I’m a great mom. Some days I’m a great lawyer.” “Would I be proud of this decision?” 🎯 THE PIVOT PLAYBOOK — FOUR PIVOTS Pivot She’s Most Proud Of Motherhood. Practice That Keeps Her Grounded Yoga — especially hot yoga and power flow. Principle That Guides Her Decisions “Would I be proud of this decision?” Person Who Changed Her Trajectory Judge Roberta Colton — mentor and guiding influence. 🌿 FUN FACTS Half Peruvian and fluent in Spanish Loves Latin music, including Danza Kuduro Passionate international traveler Favorite unexpected destination: Ecuador Upcoming destination: Japan Enjoys sci-fi and fantasy series, including Stranger Things Proud “professional spectator” of her children’s sports and activities ✅ CALLS TO ACTION Connect with Stephanie Lieb through Trenam Law. Follow her work and leadership through: The Florida Bar Business Law Section The American College of Bankruptcy If you’re a business owner, creditor, or professional navigating financial distress: Be proactive Be realistic Seek experienced guidance early A deeply human conversation about grief, growth, ambition, leadership, and the decision to fully live now — not someday.

    Purpose Over Perfection: How Tampa FL Restructuring Attorney Stephanie Lieb Defines Success Now

  5. Mar 2 ·  Video

    Legacy Over Litigation: Designing a Life — and Practice — That Lasts with PA Elder Law Attorney Andy Sykes

    Andy Sykes, Certified Elder Law Attorney and founder of a Pittsburgh-based estate planning and elder law firm, joins Salene in a rare in-person episode to talk about reinvention, legacy, mentorship, and building a practice that serves families at their most vulnerable moments. From federal clerkship to litigation to a transformative pivot into Medicaid and estate planning, Andy shares how recognizing a knowledge gap changed his career — and gave him back control of his life. A thoughtful, grounded conversation about facing adversity, protecting families, mentoring the next generation, and why “always do the right thing” is more than just a slogan. ✅ NOTES Today on The Pivot Playbook, Salene sits down with Andy Sykes — Certified Elder Law Attorney practicing in Pennsylvania, with offices in Pittsburgh (Mount Lebanon) and King of Prussia. Andy focuses on: Customized estate planning Medicaid planning Asset protection Estate administration Special needs planning Strategic tax optimization What makes his practice unique? He began from the crisis side — Medicaid litigation — and saw firsthand how poorly drafted estate documents created devastating consequences for families. “If people have good knowledge and good advice, they get a much better result than they do without it.” That realization reshaped his entire career. ⭐ In this episode, we cover: 1. The Pivot: From Litigation to Elder Law Andy began his career in litigation after clerking for a federal judge and working at a boutique litigation firm where he was handed real cases from day one. But around the year 2000, a Medicaid case changed everything. A client had improperly sold her mother’s house while her mother was on Medicaid — costing her over $100,000. Andy discovered that with proper planning and understanding of Medicaid rules, the outcome could have been dramatically different. That moment revealed: A massive knowledge gap An underserved population An opportunity to help families proactively He pivoted fully from litigation to Medicaid and estate planning. “People don’t understand these rules. If they have good advice, they get a much better result.” 2. Why Planning Over Litigation Changed His Life The pivot wasn’t just professional — it was personal. At the time, Andy’s children were young. Litigation meant: Court-driven schedules Trial deadlines Stress that spilled into family life Planning work meant: Greater control of his calendar More evenings at home A healthier work-life balance “When your practice is planning-focused, you can control your calendar much more.” 3. Who He Serves Best Andy’s ideal clients are: Middle-class families Individuals approaching or in retirement Blended families Families with special needs children Clients open to proactive, innovative planning His work emphasizes: Asset protection strategies Medicaid eligibility optimization IRA tax deferral strategies Multi-generational trust planning “We optimize and customize estate plans far more than most firms do.” 4. A Memorable Case: Love, Marriage, and Asset Protection An older couple found love later in life — but had concerns about: Protecting assets for their respective children Nursing home risks Blended family complications Through a prenuptial agreement and asset protection trust planning, Andy helped them: Marry securely Preserve assets for their children Protect against Medicaid exposure Years later, they’re still together. “It’s great to make it possible for people to feel secure enough to build a life together.” 5. Midlife Perspective & Credibility When Andy began, he sometimes felt imposter syndrome advising older clients. Now, with grown children and personal estate planning experience — including special needs planning — he brings lived experience into client conversations. “I can relate now in a way I couldn’t before.” Midlife has shifted his focus from annual profitability to long-term legacy. 6. Legacy & Mentorship For Andy, success today means: Training the next generation Bringing on a summer associate Passing down a thriving practice “It’s more about legacy now than just this calendar year.” He emphasizes mentorship: “You don’t have to reinvent the wheel. Find a mentor.” 7. Facing Adversity Instead of Avoiding It One of the most thoughtful parts of the conversation centered on adversity. Andy’s perspective: When facing professional or personal setbacks, don’t avoid them. Turn toward them. He referenced The Sixth Sense as metaphor — what terrifies us may be pointing toward something we need to confront and understand. “If you can face adversity and learn from it, it becomes a moment of growth.” 8. Ethical, Heart-Centered Leadership In elder law, identifying the true client is critical. Often an adult child brings in a parent — but the parent is the client. This requires: Clear ethical boundaries Difficult conversations Protecting vulnerable individuals Courage to say “no” when capacity is lacking “You always have to know who the real client is.” 9. Community & Connection Andy builds community through: Live educational seminars Local referrals Community visibility Church involvement Supporting local music Hosting estate planning workshops He also shared an unexpected passion: Studying improv before the pandemic Improv, he says, improved his listening skills and presence with clients. 🔥 MEMORABLE QUOTES “If people have good advice, they get a much better result.” “When your practice is planning-focused, you can control your calendar.” “You don’t have to reinvent the wheel. Find a mentor.” “If you can face adversity and learn from it, it becomes growth.” “You always have to know who the real client is.” “Always do the right thing.” 🎯 THE PIVOT PLAYBOOK FOUR PIVOTS Pivot he’s most proud of: Transitioning from litigation to elder law and Medicaid planning. Practice that keeps him grounded: Exercise — training for a 10K (The Great Race in Pittsburgh). Principle that guides him: “Always do the right thing.” Person who changed his trajectory: (With humor and heart) Salene’s photography — which led him to meet his wife. 🌿 FUN FACTS Certified Elder Law Attorney Former federal judicial clerk Studied improv pre-pandemic Avid audiobook listener Favorite show: The Crown Favorite recent song: “Constant Companion” by Juliana Hatfield Favorite travel destination: Madrid Has a wild morning dove named Daisy who visits his deck ✅ CALLS TO ACTION Learn more about estate planning and elder law services in Pennsylvania: [Insert Firm Website] Attend a live estate planning seminar in Pittsburgh or King of Prussia. If you have aging parents — don’t wait until crisis. Plan proactively. A conversation about security, stewardship, facing hard truths, and building a life — and practice — designed around legacy rather than litigation.

    Legacy Over Litigation: Designing a Life — and Practice — That Lasts with PA Elder Law Attorney Andy Sykes

  6. 3d ago ·  Video

    Never Stop Rowing the Canoe: Law, Leadership, and 786 Songs with CA Restructuring Attorney J. Scott Bovitz

    J. Scott Bovitz — senior partner at Bovitz & Spitzer in Los Angeles, Board-Certified in Business Bankruptcy Law, Fellow of the American College of Bankruptcy, past Chair of the American Board of Certification, adjunct professor, media commentator, ham radio operator, world traveler — and composer of 786 original songs — joins Salene for a wide-ranging conversation about mastery, longevity, leadership, and building a life that blends law, music, teaching, and community. From launching his own firm in 1991 with his spouse (and still practicing 30+ years later) to recording lawyer-only bands across state lines, teaching generations of law students, and serving in nearly every major bankruptcy organization, Scott shares what it means to stay curious, keep rowing, and never step off your path. A thoughtful, funny, and deeply grounded conversation about professional reinvention, civic leadership, creativity, and defining success on your own terms. ✅ NOTES Today on The Pivot Playbook, Salene sits down with J. Scott Bovitz — bankruptcy litigator, educator, organization builder, media spokesperson, and musician. Scott practices in the Central District of California, representing creditors, landlords, trustees, and distressed businesses in complex bankruptcy litigation. He is Board-Certified in Business Bankruptcy Law (ABC), a Certified Specialist by the State Bar of California, a Fellow of the American College of Bankruptcy, and a past president and chair of numerous professional organizations. But behind the credentials is a renaissance professional: Founder of BankruptcyDog.com (a long-running bankruptcy community calendar) Adjunct professor at Loyola, UNLV, and other law schools Former member of California’s Committee of Bar Examiners Frequent media commentator (including national coverage of the Dodgers bankruptcy) Composer of 786 songs and member of two all-lawyer bands Photographer who has traveled to 82 countries ⭐ In this episode, we cover: 1. The early pivots that shaped his career Clerking for his bankruptcy professor before even getting bar results Being asked — on short notice — to teach bankruptcy at Loyola Realizing that teaching creates both mastery and opportunity Choosing a niche and digging deep “Find a field and learn everything you possibly can. The law is infinite.” 2. The boldest pivot: Starting Bovitz & Spitzer Leaving a large firm in Century City in 1991 to launch a two-lawyer firm with his spouse. Negotiating his exit Managing overhead carefully Building a litigation-focused bankruptcy practice Choosing scope intentionally (knowing what not to take) “When you’re on your own, you decide the scope of your practice.” Thirty-plus years later, the firm still thrives. 3. Building a reputation through service Scott estimates that he spends roughly one-third of his time on non-billable leadership and educational work: Writing and lecturing (hundreds of programs delivered) Serving on the State Bar’s Legal Specialization Board Writing certification exams Serving on the Committee of Bar Examiners Leadership in ABC, ABI, local bankruptcy forums His philosophy: “Don’t just belong. Participate.” 4. Media appearances & becoming a trusted expert From answering live call-in radio questions to appearing on CBS 14 times during the Dodgers bankruptcy, Scott shares how showing up publicly builds credibility — and how even his mother finally believed he was a “real lawyer” after seeing him on television. He’s also fielded complex overnight reporter calls (including on 23andMe bankruptcy privacy issues) — often from airports. 5. The music life: 786 songs and counting It started in 8th grade — writing a song for a girl. Years later, mid-career, he took UCLA extension classes in recording technology. That turned into: A home studio in Los Angeles Two all-lawyer bands Remote collaboration across cities Serving as recording engineer ABA licensing his music for podcast intros He writes constantly — and rarely declares a song “done.” “No song is ever finished.” Music, he says, keeps him grounded and in flow. 6. The power of community Scott describes the bankruptcy community as surprisingly small — perhaps 300 regular national players. Whether at ABI, ABC, NCBJ, or local forums, he values walking into a room knowing he has colleagues — and friends. He also finds connection in unexpected places: Ham radio (licensed since 1969) The Los Angeles Lawyers Philharmonic A lawyer movie club (“Monday Night Lawyer Movie Club — unless it’s on Tuesday”) BankruptcyDog.com, which he updates daily “These people who are sometimes your adversaries are your friends.” 7. Advice for younger lawyers Find a mentor you want to be like. Choose a field and master it. Go to programs year-round — not just to meet CLE requirements. Volunteer and say yes. Never stop sharpening your sword. “You never master the law. It’s infinite.” 8. Advice for business clients in distress Clients often arrive scared, overly optimistic, or poorly informed. Scott emphasizes: Listen first. Assess whether bankruptcy truly helps. Explain risks and costs clearly. Be honest when the answer is no. “Bankruptcy isn’t magic.” 9. Life at 70: How he defines success Scott recently turned 70 and has no plans to slow down. For him, success means: Financial security A stable marriage (married since 1984) The freedom to create Being able to walk into a national conference and know people Continuing to grow “You never get off your path.” 🔥 MEMORABLE QUOTES “Don’t just belong. Participate.” “When you’re on your own, you decide the scope of your practice.” “The law is infinite.” “You never master it.” “Bankruptcy isn’t magic.” “You never stop rowing the canoe.” “Golden rule and common sense — that guides my decisions.” 🎯 THE PIVOT PLAYBOOK FOUR PIVOTS Pivot he’s most proud of: Launching Bovitz & Spitzer in 1991 and building it into a decades-long practice. Practice that keeps him grounded: Writing and recording music. Principle that guides him: The Golden Rule and common sense. People who shaped his trajectory: Professor David Luna (first employer) Frank Riall (who asked him to teach) Michael Dempsey (litigation role model) Candice Carlyon (ABC leadership invitation) ✅ CALLS TO ACTION Learn more about the American Board of Certification: https://abcworld.org Explore BankruptcyDog.com (Southern California bankruptcy events calendar): http://bankruptcydog.com Connect with the American College of Bankruptcy: https://www.americancollegeofbankruptcy.com Learn more about the American Bankruptcy Institute: https://www.abi.org

    Never Stop Rowing the Canoe: Law, Leadership, and 786 Songs with CA Restructuring Attorney J. Scott Bovitz

  7. 12/30/2025 ·  Video

    Mascots, Math, and Meaning: Baltimore MD Commercial Litigator Barry Gogel’s Pivot Story

    Barry Gogel, Managing Member of the Baltimore/Towson office of Rifkin Weiner Livingston, joins Salene for a deeply human conversation about complex business litigation, government procurement battles, service-driven leadership, and the personal pivots that define a meaningful life. A University of Maryland Carey School of Law graduate, former math teacher, adjunct professor, mentor, and — yes — former Baltimore Orioles mascot, Barry shares how the biggest shift in his life wasn’t about career advancement… it was about returning to education and service. A wise, funny, and unexpectedly profound conversation about humility, aspiration, community, and why the answer is always no if you don’t ask. ✅ NOTES Today on The Pivot Playbook, Salene sits down with Barry Gogel — complex business litigator, procurement attorney, adjunct professor, mentor, and community leader based in Baltimore, Maryland. Barry practices with Rifkin Weiner Livingston, a mid-sized Maryland business law firm with a strong government relations presence. His work includes: Complex commercial litigation Government contracts and procurement bid protests Contract claims against state agencies Bankruptcy-related litigation and professional malpractice disputes High-profile regional disputes (including major sports and development matters) He describes his practice simply: “When the stakes are big, we step in.” But behind the litigation victories is a teacher at heart. ⭐ In this episode, we cover: 1. From Math Teacher to Litigator Barry began his professional life as a mathematics major who always intended to teach. Inspired by high school math teachers Began his career in education Realized the cyclical nature of teaching left him restless Pivoted to law for intellectual challenge and financial stability Yet decades later, he returned to teaching — this time at the University of Maryland School of Law. Today he teaches: Negotiations Coaches the ADR team Sports and the Law “My goal is to educate and entertain — not necessarily in that order.” 2. The Mascot Years From 1990–1994, Barry served as a Baltimore Orioles mascot. Yes — fully costumed. “What makes a good mascot? The heart of a three-year-old.” He describes it as: “The most fun you can have fully dressed.” The experience shaped his understanding of performance, energy, and connection — skills that translate directly to the courtroom and the classroom. 3. High-Stakes Litigation & Government Procurement Barry’s legal niche includes state procurement disputes — a small bar of lawyers who challenge arbitrary or unlawful government contract decisions. Ideal clients: Businesses with major state contracts Companies unfairly disfavored in competitive bidding Contractors willing to fight when the stakes justify it He also handles litigation that emerges from bankruptcies — especially professional malpractice actions pursued by creditors’ committees. “There’s no problem so big we can’t handle — so long as you’re not kicked out of court.” 4. A Memorable First Case Two weeks into practice, Barry took on a pro bono civil rights case through the ACLU involving racial discrimination at a jewelry store. Investigated discriminatory appointment practices Litigated aggressively Settled after key motions It consumed half of his first year’s billable time — and cemented his identity as an advocate. 5. The Defining Pivot: Returning to Education The biggest pivot in Barry’s life wasn’t professional — it was personal. A lunch with former law school dean Don Gifford changed everything. Barry realized he had drifted too far from education — the space that originally inspired him. He volunteered to coach the law school’s negotiations team. It didn’t pay. It required enormous time. He said yes. That decision grew into: A formal academic negotiations course A thriving ADR community A mentorship network of former students A long-term legacy of training young lawyers “It’s great to be happy. It’s even better if someone else is happy because of you.” 6. Service as Medicine Barry’s involvement with Maryland Youth in the Law (MYLAW) became another defining chapter. The program: Places Baltimore City students in paid legal internships Closes opportunity gaps Changes career trajectories He describes asking students to reflect on a moment they were truly selfless — expecting nothing in return. “You should be selfish in seeking out those selfless moments. That’s the best medicine you can give yourself.” 7. High Aspirations vs. Low Expectations One of Barry’s most memorable frameworks: “The key to happiness is low expectations. The key to success is high aspirations. The key to life is understanding the difference.” He teaches clients — and students — to: Pursue boldly Accept outcomes Not let failure define them “The answer is no if you don’t ask.” 8. Advice for Business Clients in Distress Don’t be your own lawyer. Seek outside judgment early. Don’t wait until it’s too late. Temper expectations in litigation. “Call me before it’s too late.” 9. Ethical, Heart-Centered Leadership For Barry, leadership means: Empathy without absorption Listening without ego Telling hard truths clearly Separating your client’s problem from your identity “You can’t be afraid of the hard truth.” 🔥 MEMORABLE QUOTES “The heart of a three-year-old.” “The answer is no if you don’t ask.” “Be selfish in your selflessness.” “The key to happiness is low expectations. The key to success is high aspirations. The key to life is understanding the difference.” “Don’t be your own lawyer.” “There’s no problem so big we can’t handle — so long as you’re not kicked out of court.” 🎯 THE PIVOT PLAYBOOK FOUR PIVOTS Pivot he’s most proud of: Volunteering for Maryland Youth in the Law and building a legacy in mentorship and access. Practice that keeps him grounded: Morning ritual: Wordle, Spelling Bee, Duolingo (Spanish & chess), Boggle with a 15-year Australian friend. Principle that guides him: “The answer is no if you don’t ask.” People who changed his trajectory: High school math teachers Don Gifford (law school dean) John Murphy (mentor) Arnold Wiener (father-in-law and legal inspiration) His wife, Debra His children 🌊 FUN FACTS Former Baltimore Orioles mascot Mathematics major Adjunct professor of negotiations & sports law Owns a Hobie Cat sailboat Favorite show: Ted Lasso Favorite music: Jimmy Buffett, Jim Croce, John Denver Favorite podcast: Lost Ballparks Two “crazy” chihuahuas named Rice and Beans ✅ CALLS TO ACTION Learn more about Maryland Youth in the Law (MYLAW): https://www.my-law.org Explore Rifkin Weiner Livingston: https://www.rwllaw.com University of Maryland Francis King Carey School of Law: https://www.law.umaryland.edu

    Mascots, Math, and Meaning: Baltimore MD Commercial Litigator Barry Gogel’s Pivot Story

  8. 11/20/2025 ·  Video

    Be Brave — Reinvention, Leadership & Authenticity with Hon. Elizabeth A. Gunn

    Hon. Elizabeth A. Gunn, U.S. Bankruptcy Judge for the District of Columbia and recipient of the 2025 American Bar Association Business Bankruptcy Committee’s Kathryn R. Heidt Memorial Award, joins Salene to talk about bravery, authenticity, public service, and the pivots that shape a life in law.   She is Board-Certified in Consumer Bankruptcy by the American Board of Certification. From being bullied in a tiny Oregon town to becoming one of the most recognizable voices in bankruptcy education (including the wildly popular “Bad Boys of Bankruptcy” podcast), Judge Gunn shares candidly about her journey: leaving BigLaw, taking a pay cut for purpose, balancing motherhood with the bench, and finding her voice as a leader. A powerful, warm, and deeply human conversation about resilience, reinvention, and why the scariest decisions are sometimes the truest. ✅ NOTES  Today on The Pivot Playbook, Salene sits down with Hon. Elizabeth A. Gunn, U.S. Bankruptcy Judge for the District of Columbia, marathon runner, mother of two, scholar, podcast creator, and the 2025 recipient of the ABA Business Bankruptcy Committee’s Kathryn R. Heidt Memorial Award. Judge Gunn is known for her intellect, her service, and her creativity — including launching the ABA’s hit series “The Bad Boys of Bankruptcy,” now the most-listened-to podcast in the entire Business Law Section. But behind the accolades is a story of courage, reinvention, and authenticity. ⭐ In this episode, we cover: 1. Her path to the bench—from a tiny Oregon town to Washington, D.C. Growing up as the academically gifted “outsider” Being bullied and persevering Discovering bankruptcy law through Professor Ingrid Hillinger Working BigLaw → regional firm → Virginia AG’s office → federal judge 2. The pivotal moment that changed everything Leaving private practice, taking a massive pay cut, and betting on purpose over prestige — a scary leap that ultimately led to national recognition and her judgeship. 3. Running marathons, building playlists, and her global Starbucks mug wall How running keeps her sane, what she listens to, and why Berlin and Sydney marathons mark chapters in her personal story. 4. Inside the “Bad Boys of Bankruptcy” podcast How it started The wildest stories (Seattle jewel-smuggling fugitives, Dunkin’ Donuts Ponzi schemes, hidden jewelry walls!) How storytelling makes bankruptcy accessible and engaging 5. What it means to be a first-generation lawyer and a woman on the bench Authenticity vs. “playing the role” The “mom finger” for mansplainers Being the only woman in the courtroom Raising confident kids while doing demanding work 6. Judge Gunn’s advice for: Distressed business owners: “Do NOT wait until it’s an 8, 9, or 10 crisis. Come in at a 4 or 5—before it’s too late.” Creditors: “Open your mail. Participate. The squeaky wheel often gets the grease.” 7. The Pivot Playbook Four Pivots Pivot she’s most proud of: Leaving private practice + applying for the bench Practice that keeps her grounded: Being a mom Principle that guides her: Treat people the way you want to be treated Person who changed her trajectory: Her mentor, Roy Terry — and her mother 🔥 MEMORABLE QUOTES  “Sometimes the best decision is the scariest decision. Be brave.” “I wasn’t successful until I stopped trying to be who I thought a lawyer should be — and just became myself.” “If they walked in six months earlier, we could have saved it.” “The bankruptcy code protects the people who show up.” “Treat others the way you want to be treated — it’s not complicated.” “This is probably my last job ever, and I love it.” ✅ CALLS TO ACTION Learn more about the ABA Business Bankruptcy Committee: https://www.americanbar.org/groups/business_law/about/committees/business-bankruptcy/subcommittees/ Listen to Bad Boys of Bankruptcy podcast:  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/to-the-extent-that/id1498999428?i=1000737283314 Connect with Judge Gunn’s work through NCBJ, ABC, ABI, and the Federal Bar Association Learn more about becoming Board-Certified in bankruptcy:  https://abcworld.org

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A conversation with restructuring professionals, business leaders, and growth-minded coaches about pivotal strategies to rescue businesses and inspire midlifers to redesign their lives.  End goal- self-actualization.  The Pivot Playbook Podcast is where fresh starts meet real strategy. Host Salene Mazur Kraemer, Esq., CTA, MBA—board-certified business bankruptcy attorney and founder of MazurKraemer Business Law Group—breaks down the moves that save companies and reset lives. Each episode features candid conversations with turnaround CEOs, finance pros, franchise and SBA experts, lawyers, and growth coaches. We cover business topics like cash-flow triage, personal guarantees, asset protection, buying or fixing a business.   At the same time, we often talk about important personal issues that hit midlifers hard- empty nest, aging parents, financial tips, limiting beliefs, relationship repair, health challenges, parenting woes, physical fitness, career reinvention, and creative flow.  You’ll hear case-study breakdowns, 3-minute “Legal Playbook” explainers, and coach-level frameworks you can apply today. If you’re navigating change—by choice or by circumstance—this is your weekly guide to a smarter pivot.

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