Swann Skein Podcast

Swann Skein

Exploring the evolving landscape of leadership, strategy, and organisational transformation with global extractive industry experts tackling today’s business challenges.

  1. Episode 5

    Oil Shale: The Strategic Resource Not Only for Energy

    🎧 Podcast Preview: Oil Shale – The Strategic Resource Not Only for Energy Produced by: Swann and Skein Featuring: Hando Sutter & Jonathan Molyneux In this episode, Jonathan Molyneux is joined by Hando Sutter, former CEO of Estonia’s national energy company, Eesti Energia, and a leading figure in European industry, to examine one of the most misunderstood resources in the global energy and materials landscape: oil shale. Hando challenges long‑held assumptions about mining and fossil resources, offering a more nuanced perspective shaped by decades of operational and leadership experience. Drawing on Estonia’s century‑long history with oil shale, the conversation explores how modern mining has evolved into a full‑cycle, highly disciplined activity balancing energy security, innovation, environmental responsibility, and community engagement. Hando also reframes oil shale’s future role, not primarily as a fuel to be burned, but as a strategic input into the chemical value chain and the circular economy. The discussion highlights why resource‑rich nations must rethink how they approach domestic supply, why public perceptions often lag behind technological reality, and why mining’s future depends on cross‑disciplinary thinking, responsible leadership, and honest engagement with society. This episode offers a pragmatic, future‑focused view of how natural resources can support both economic resilience and sustainable development. Join us as we challenge assumptions, provoke thought, and seek fresh perspectives on the future of mining and beyond. Home - Swann

    Oil Shale: The Strategic Resource Not Only for Energy
  2. Episode 6

    Changing the Way We See Mines: Art, Perception and Landscape

    🎧 Podcast Episode: Changing the Way We See Mines: Art, Perception and Landscape Produced by: Swann Skein Featuring: Federico Winer & Jo Forrest In this episode, Jo Forrest is joined by Federico Winer, Argentine visual artist and creator of ULTRADISTANCIA, a globally recognised satellite-art project that transforms views of the Earth into contemporary artworks. Over the past decade, Federico's work has attracted international recognition through exhibitions, collaborations with Google, and a unique body of work that explores the relationship between landscape, technology, human intervention and perception. In an unexpected evolution of the project, his work has also developed a strong connection with the mining industry. Through the lens of art, Federico invites us to see mines not simply as industrial operations, but as landscapes, patterns and visual expressions of human activity. The conversation explores how changing perspective can challenge assumptions, spark curiosity and create new ways of understanding familiar subjects. Together, Jo and Federico discuss the origins of ULTRADISTANCIA, how an internationally recognised artist found himself engaging with the mining sector, and whether art and visual storytelling can influence how industries are perceived by society. The discussion goes beyond traditional mining narratives, examining the role of creativity, technology and observation in shaping public understanding. It also explores how different disciplines can contribute to the industry's future and why innovation sometimes begins not with a new technology, but with a new way of seeing. This episode offers a thoughtful and unconventional perspective on mining, reminding us that some of the most valuable insights can come from outside the industry's traditional boundaries. Join us as we challenge assumptions, provoke thought, and seek fresh perspectives on the future of mining and beyond. Home - Swann

    Changing the Way We See Mines: Art, Perception and Landscape
  3. Episode 7

    Challenging Assumptions: From Activism to Mining Entrepreneurship

    🎧 Podcast Episode: Challenging Assumptions: From Activism to Mining Entrepreneurship Produced by: Swann Skein Featuring: Beth Borody & Emma Johnson In this episode, Emma Johnson is joined by Beth Borody, Founder and CEO of Maven Exploration, entrepreneur, business builder, and passionate advocate for women in mining. Beth's journey into the industry is anything but conventional. Having grown up in West Africa and spent her formative years strongly opposed to the natural resources sector, she went from fundraising for Greenpeace and challenging the industry's social licence to becoming one of mining's most influential voices for community engagement, inclusion, and responsible development.  Drawing on experiences that span Niger, Ghana, and Canada, Beth reflects on how exposure to different cultures, communities, and lived realities challenged many of her early assumptions about mining. The conversation explores how curiosity, humility, and a willingness to question deeply held beliefs can transform both careers and perspectives. Together, Emma and Beth discuss the pivotal moments that changed Beth's view of the industry, the importance of community-centred leadership, and why successful mining projects depend as much on human connection and trust as they do on technical expertise. They also examine the role that empathy, cross-cultural understanding, and stakeholder engagement play in creating meaningful and lasting impact. The discussion explores mining's evolving reputation and the growing influence of authentic storytelling in shaping public perception. Beth shares her views on the industry's relationship with social media, why genuine voices often resonate more strongly than corporate messaging, and how transparency can help bridge the gap between mining companies and wider society. The conversation also delves into entrepreneurship, resilience, and Beth's commitment to advancing opportunities for women in mining. Together they discuss the progress that has been made, the systemic challenges that remain, and why building supportive networks, fostering inclusive leadership, and addressing issues such as parental leave and women's health are critical to the industry's future.  This episode offers an inspiring perspective on growth, leadership, and the power of challenging assumptions. Beth's story demonstrates that some of the most meaningful change occurs when we remain open to new evidence, embrace complexity, and have the courage to step forward and help shape the future of an industry from within. Join us as we challenge assumptions, provoke thought, and seek fresh perspectives on the future of mining and beyond. Home - Swann

    Challenging Assumptions: From Activism to Mining Entrepreneurship
  4. Episode 8

    Novas Lideranças na Mineração Global

    🎧 Podcast: Novas Lideranças na Mineração Global Produzido por: Swann Skein Participantes: Lucas Kallas & Jo Forrest Neste episódio, Jo Forrest conversa com Lucas Kallas, Presidente da Cedro Participações, em uma discussão franca sobre empreendedorismo, liderança e os desafios de construir uma empresa de mineração bem-sucedida em um dos mercados de minério de ferro mais competitivos do mundo. Com base em décadas de experiência nos setores de mineração, logística e desenvolvimento de negócios, Lucas compartilha a trajetória da Cedro, que evoluiu de uma operação regional para uma relevante produtora brasileira de minério de ferro. Ao longo da conversa, ele reflete sobre a importância da visão de longo prazo, da execução disciplinada e da manutenção de uma mentalidade empreendedora em um setor em constante transformação. A conversa explora as oportunidades e os desafios que a mineração global enfrenta atualmente, desde as restrições de infraestrutura e logística até o aumento da demanda por produtos de minério de ferro de maior qualidade, capazes de apoiar os esforços de descarbonização da indústria do aço. Lucas também apresenta sua visão sobre o futuro da mineração no Brasil, o papel da inovação na competitividade do setor e a importância de equilibrar desempenho operacional, sustentabilidade, relacionamento com comunidades e crescimento responsável. Ao longo do episódio, um tema se destaca: grandes empresas de mineração são construídas com muito mais do que recursos minerais. Elas são moldadas por liderança, visão estratégica, resiliência e pela capacidade de gerar valor de forma sustentável ao longo do tempo. Este episódio oferece uma análise prática e inspiradora sobre a mentalidade de um empreendedor da mineração e sobre o papel cada vez mais importante que o setor desempenha no crescimento econômico, no desenvolvimento industrial e na transição energética. 🎙️ Uma conversa prática e provocadora sobre o que é necessário para construir uma empresa de mineração moderna e competitiva no cenário global atual. Join us as we challenge assumptions, provoke thought, and seek fresh perspectives on the future of mining and beyond. Home - Swann This episode includes AI-generated content.

    Novas Lideranças na Mineração Global
  5. Episode 8

    New Leaders in Global Mining

    🎧 Podcast Episode: Building Value in Mining: Leadership, Growth and Long-Term Vision Produced by: Swann Skein Featuring: Lucas Kallas & Jo Forrest In this episode, Jo Forrest is joined by Lucas Kallas, Chairman of Cedro Participações, for a candid conversation about entrepreneurship, leadership and the realities of building a successful mining business in one of the world's most competitive iron ore markets. Drawing on decades of experience in mining, logistics and business development, Lucas shares the journey of transforming Cedro from a regional operation into a significant Brazilian iron ore producer. Along the way, he reflects on the importance of long-term thinking, disciplined execution and maintaining an entrepreneurial mindset in a rapidly changing industry. The discussion explores the opportunities and challenges facing the global mining sector, from infrastructure and logistics constraints to the growing demand for higher-quality iron ore products that can support the steel industry's decarbonisation ambitions. Lucas also shares his perspective on the future of mining in Brazil, the role of innovation in driving competitiveness, and why successful businesses must balance operational performance with sustainability, community engagement and responsible growth. Throughout the conversation, one theme remains constant: great mining companies are built on more than resources alone. They are shaped by leadership, vision, resilience and the ability to create value over the long term. This episode offers an insightful look into the mindset of a mining entrepreneur and the evolving role of mining in supporting economic growth, industrial development and the energy transition.  🎙️ A practical and thought-provoking discussion on what it takes to build a modern mining business in today's world. Join us as we challenge assumptions, provoke thought, and seek fresh perspectives on the future of mining and beyond. Home - Swann This episode includes AI-generated content.

    New Leaders in Global Mining

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Exploring the evolving landscape of leadership, strategy, and organisational transformation with global extractive industry experts tackling today’s business challenges.