Let's have natural talk about Gina's supernatural walk! Reach out to Gina via The Logic of God website if you have questions about her testimony or want to talk. Website: www.thelogicofgod.com -- Follow Martyria! TikTok: https://www.youtube.com/redirect?even... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/martyriamedia/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.phph... -- End song "The Practice of Presence" by We Dream of Eden. https://www.wedreamofeden.com/ -- Gina shares openly about adoption, abuse, self-harm, baptism, marriage, motherhood, and learning to trust God without losing the honesty of her story. The discussion is both deeply personal and broadly relevant for anyone thinking about discipleship, pastoral care, and what it really means to be the body of Christ. She explains her early life after being adopted at four months old, her parents’ divorce when she was two, and the instability that followed in a home that was not Christian. Gina describes her mother’s involvement in occult practices, including seances, numerology, crystals, Ouija boards, and self-harm rituals that profoundly affected her childhood. She reflects on how seeing and learning about self-harm at age six led to her own self-destructive behavior later in childhood and adolescence. Matthew and Gina spend time unpacking the difference between counterfeit power and Christian sanctification, especially the idea of trying to become “like God” versus living as the person God created you to be. Gina talks about rejection, abandonment, and “mommy shopping,” describing how she searched for maternal approval in teachers, friends’ moms, and relationships. She shares how she tried to become like her mother in order to be accepted, even learning occult psychology such as chromotherapy and manipulation tactics. The conversation turns toward identity and calling, including Gina’s realization that she was meant for social work and her eventual professional path helping damaged and vulnerable people. Gina explains how pregnancy, domestic violence, shelter living, and motherhood became turning points that pulled her out of further self-destruction. She recounts the role of church, baptism, and a patient pastor in helping her take her first honest steps toward Christianity after years of feeling unsafe around authority. gifts and attachment style “I wanted it to be a bold statement to my mom, to where I was raised, and to the enemy.” Spend time asking whether you are doubting God or doubting people. Reflect on your attachment style and how it affects the way you relate to God and others. Look for ways to be the church outside the church building. Practice patience with people who carry trauma instead of rushing them toward neat answers. Use your gifts to strengthen others rather than hide them or compare them.