Z Inside Story With Kristin Messegee

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An Enneagram Podcast

  1. Jul 6

    The Work for Twos | Candice Michelle Enneagram Coach

    What does the real work of the Enneagram look like for Type Twos? In this episode of Inside Story, Kristin sits down with coach Candice Michelle for a rich conversation about shame, pride, anxiety, and the lifelong practice of self-awareness. Along the way, they explore why Twos often struggle to receive help, how TV characters can illuminate our personality patterns, and why doing "the work" isn't about becoming perfect—it's about learning new practices that help us stay connected to ourselves. From Ted Lasso and The Office to conversations about emotional ownership, chronic pain, relationships, and the stories we tell ourselves, this episode is an honest look at what growth really feels like. Whether you're a Two or simply trying to understand the people you love, you'll find practical insight, laughter, and plenty of moments that invite deeper reflection. You can connect with Candice Michelle here: https://www.instagram.com/candicemichelleenneagram/

  2. Jun 15

    The Work for Ones | Dani Cooper

    Dani Cooper is a Certified Enneagram Teacher, Coach, and your biggest cheerleader on the road to self-discovery. She helps individuals, couples, and teams identify the patterns keeping them stuck — and grow beyond them into who they were always meant to be. She’s the author of The Enneagram for Christian Couples (2022), and her life’s work is simple: helping people know themselves, love themselves, and live more freely. IG: @deepwatersenneagram website: deepwatersenneagram.com

  3. Jun 8

    Season Two | The Work for Nines | Joe in Florida

    In this episode of Inside Story, Kristen sits down with Joe, a Type Nine whose journey through recovery, Enneagram work, marriage, parenting, and leadership offers a thoughtful look at what growth can look like for Nines. Together they explore the relationship between the Enneagram and 12-step recovery, the challenge of recognizing and expressing anger, passive-aggression, conflict, self-forgetting, and the fear of disrupting peace. Joe reflects on how routines, courage, accountability, and trusted communities have helped him find his voice and take meaningful action. The conversation also touches on humility, expertise, relationships, spirituality, and why growth often requires doing the thing we least want to do. For Nines—and anyone who struggles to trust themselves, speak up, or act before they feel ready—this is a rich conversation about what it means to remember that you matter.

  4. Mar 30

    Season One Wrap | With Jeff Cook

    As we close out Season One of Inside Story, Kristin Messegee and Jeff Cook reflect on what they’ve learned—and where the Enneagram needs to go next. This conversation moves beyond theory into practice. What actually changes us? Why do we avoid our core emotions—anger, shame, and fear—and what does it take to face them? Across the triads, patterns emerge: image types struggle to access shame, body types resist seeing their impact, and head types find subtle ways to avoid anxiety altogether.

  5. Mar 2

    Enneagram 8 | Joey Schewee | Part II

    In this exchange, Kristin and Joey explore how differently the types move through the world—especially around communication, authority, affirmation, and intensity. They also examine crisis strengths, autonomy, vulnerability, and the common mistyping of bold people. The discussion broadens into themes of parenting, growth, and self-awareness. Joey reflects on raising children with an understanding of stance and wiring, while Kristin speaks candidly about discovering her own fear and authority patterns later in life. Together, they emphasize that the Enneagram doesn’t change hardwiring—but it can transform how we relate, how we repair, and how we take responsibility for the impact we have on others. Links Inside Story episode (Apple): HERE Kristin Messegee's Coaching: HERE All Joey Schewee's work at WE Solutions: HERE Joey's Upcoming book: "When Working Together Doesn't Work" : HERE

  6. Feb 23

    Enneagram 8 | Joey Schewee | Part I

    Coaching for Enneagram Sixes with Kristin : HERE Pick up Joey Schewee's new book : HERE ___ On this episode of Inside Story, host Kristin Messegee sits down with Enneagram teacher and workplace consultant Joey Schewee for a candid, surprisingly personal conversation about what it’s actually like to live inside Type Eight. Joey opens with her upcoming book, When Working Together Doesn’t Work—a guide born from 17 years of consulting and leading teams—and then Kristen pivots into the heart of the episode: Eight confidence, intensity, and the misunderstood inner world beneath the “big presence.” Joey challenges common stereotypes (and mistypes), reframes Eight “reactivity” as fast-moving anger that clears quickly, and names the real fuel behind Eight conflict: injustice, low effort, and compromised integrity. Together they explore the push-pull between autonomy and connection, why Eights often feel uncomfortable when attention turns toward them, and how “wanting” energy from others can feel intrusive—especially when it isn’t grounded in authenticity. Joey also shares what changed after facing something she couldn’t control, how anger can cover tenderness, and why gut types may be the most intuitive in the system. Again, Joey’s book When Working Together Doesn’t Work is available for pre-order now on Amazon and releases in March, and you can get it : HERE .

  7. Feb 9

    Enneagram 7 | Lindsey Davis

    Kristin Messegee sits down with Lindsey Davis for a Type Seven installment of Inside Story—and what starts as a “get to know you” quickly becomes a rich, surprisingly tender exploration of how Sevens actually experience their inner world. Lindsey shares the personal upheaval of 2025 (divorce, re-finding herself, and realizing she’d been mistyped as a Two for nearly a decade), and the two of them unpack what changes when you’re finally looking through the right lens: why boundaries can feel hard for different reasons, how reframing works as both a gift and a defense, and what it’s like to feel “a good day” while quietly bracing for it to disappear. Along the way they talk somatic awareness, the body as truth-teller, the “good girl vs good woman” shift, anger as a boundary signal, and even why some Sevens show up publicly for hard topics (like politics) while avoiding the friction one-on-one. It’s funny, honest, and deeply practical—an episode for anyone trying to build self-trust, tell more of the story, and stay present when life gets complicated.

  8. Jan 26

    Enneagram 6 | Kristin Messegee

    Kristin Messegee flips the script on Inside Story and lets herself be the Six, handing the interviewer role to Jeff Cook. They dig into how Sixes read strength, why reliability feels magnetic, and what “pushing against” someone really means when you need the ground to hold. We talk about triggers, control, and the specific places anxiety shows up—her husband’s health, her kids, her work, and a divided world that fuels her distrust of groupthink and institutions. They talk about unproductive thinking, why encouragement often doesn’t land, and what actually helps: interrupting the spiral through the body, regulating the system, and building an internal voice that stays kind and steady. Along the way: independence as freedom (hello, car rides), “escape” as an eject button, and a funny, skeptical detour into AI and certainty.

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