Awakening Mindfulness at Work: A Conversation That Matters!

Pierre Khawand & Sarah Killeen

Our podcast is a space for meaningful conversations, for exploring the insights that arise in our mindfulness-at-work programs, and for sharing the wisdom that emerges when we slow down and tune in. The journey of mindfulness is one of discovery—of presence, awareness, and transformation. As mindfulness teachers, we have had the privilege of witnessing its impact in real time: the shifts in perspectives, the newfound resilience, the quiet moments of clarity that ripple into powerful change. We've seen it in the eyes of our participants when something clicks, when a deep breath dissolves tension, when an insight sparks a new way of engaging with life.

  1. Doing the Difficult Thing—Gently, Intentionally, and One Step at a Time

    May 28

    Doing the Difficult Thing—Gently, Intentionally, and One Step at a Time

    In this episode of Awakening Mindfulness at Work, Pierre Khawand and Sarah Killeen explore a challenge many of us quietly face every day: avoiding the tasks, conversations, or situations that feel emotionally difficult. But what if the real difficulty is not the task itself—but our relationship with it? Together, they unpack the emotional side of avoidance, including fear, shame, overwhelm, perfectionism, and self-judgment, and explore how mindfulness and self-compassion can help us gently turn toward what we resist instead of continually pushing it away. Rather than promoting harsh productivity or forcing ourselves through discomfort, this conversation offers a more grounded and human approach: • Understanding the emotional charge behind difficult tasks • Why avoidance often prolongs stress and suffering • The importance of “emotional cleanup” before taking action • Working in small iterations instead of overwhelming ourselves • Setting softer, more realistic expectations with ourselves • How action—not perfection—builds self-confidence and growth Pierre and Sarah also reflect on the connection between difficult tasks, growth mindset, intentionality, and emotional resilience—and why sometimes the first meaningful step is simply deciding not to run away anymore. A practical and compassionate conversation about moving from resistance to action—one small step at a time.

    20 min
  2. Apr 28

    Lightness & Purpose: Finding Joy Without Losing Meaning

    In this episode of Awakening Mindfulness at Work, Pierre and Sarah continue their conversation with Dr. Jonathan Fisher, this time exploring the theme of lightness. What does it mean to live and work with purpose—while also experiencing joy, ease, and lightness? Are these in tension, or can they support each other? Drawing from his own journey through burnout, Dr. Fisher shares how carrying the weight of others’ suffering can lead to emotional heaviness—and how, over time, we may unintentionally numb ourselves to protect against it. But in doing so, we also lose access to joy. This conversation offers a different perspective: lightness and purpose are not opposites. In fact, they are deeply connected. Cultivating moments of joy, connection, and playfulness is not optional—it’s essential for sustaining meaningful work and avoiding burnout. They also explore practical ways to reconnect with lightness, including revisiting what brought us joy earlier in life, learning from others who embody it, and intentionally noticing and savoring moments of positivity throughout the day. This episode is inspired by Just One Heart, particularly the chapter on lightness, where these ideas are explored more deeply. You can learn more about the book here: https://www.amazon.com/Just-One-Heart-Cardiologists-Happiness/dp/B0DFGD2G53 A warm and practical conversation on how to lighten the heart—without losing depth or purpose.

    16 min

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Our podcast is a space for meaningful conversations, for exploring the insights that arise in our mindfulness-at-work programs, and for sharing the wisdom that emerges when we slow down and tune in. The journey of mindfulness is one of discovery—of presence, awareness, and transformation. As mindfulness teachers, we have had the privilege of witnessing its impact in real time: the shifts in perspectives, the newfound resilience, the quiet moments of clarity that ripple into powerful change. We've seen it in the eyes of our participants when something clicks, when a deep breath dissolves tension, when an insight sparks a new way of engaging with life.