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Welcome to Working Out God — a podcast where faith meets your personal and professional journey. Hosted by Beulah and Toyin, this series dives into the personal journeys of individuals who have found strength, purpose, and guidance through their faith while navigating the unique challenges of their industries. Each episode explores how belief shapes professional life — the balance of being a Christian in today’s workplace, the lessons learned along the way, and the inspirational figures who have influenced these journeys of faith. From professionals and entrepreneurs to industry heavyweights and everyday believers, we engage in candid conversations that uncover the profound impact of faith on work, life, and calling and ask the question: how might our careers and lives look different without it? Music by The Porters Gate

  1. When God Doesn't Show You The Whole Plan | Following God One Step At A Time

    6d ago

    When God Doesn't Show You The Whole Plan | Following God One Step At A Time

    What if God showed you the next step, but not the whole roadmap? In this episode, Catherine shares her journey from teacher and youth worker to founding and leading Refugee Education UK (REUK), an organisation supporting refugee and displaced young people through education. What began with noticing a group of young people waiting for school places in her local community grew into a nationwide charity impacting thousands of lives.  We talk about the power of education, the importance of hope, and why optimism and hope are not always the same thing. Catherine reflects on some of the most challenging moments of leading a charity — from funding crises to navigating a major building project through the uncertainty of COVID — and shares how faith, surrender, and wise stewardship have shaped her leadership along the way.  The conversation also explores calling, purpose, and the tension many of us feel when we want clarity about the future. Catherine shares why she believes God often leads us one step at a time, and how every season of life can be part of a bigger story than we realise. We also discuss the importance of kindness, bridge-building, and starting small. Whether you’re passionate about social justice, wondering what your next step is, or simply trying to follow God faithfully where you are, this episode is a reminder that you don’t need to have everything figured out before you begin. Chapters (00:00:17) - Catherine's Story on The Fight for equality(00:00:39) - The story of REUK and refugee education(00:06:24) - The charity's mission(00:08:52) - Hope in an uncertain world(00:12:18) - Catherine's journey to charity(00:15:01) - Vocation and its exploration(00:16:34) - How God Uses Experiences in Our Lives(00:18:24) - God's provision for the refugee crisis(00:25:39) - How to Steward but Protect(00:33:20) - What Would You Say to Your Younger Self?(00:38:49) - Becoming involved in the refugee and education space

    46 min
  2. Called To Go | Daily Bread & The God Who Provides

    Jun 3

    Called To Go | Daily Bread & The God Who Provides

    This season, you might have heard us mentioning one book in our conversations: Chasing the Dragon by Jackie Pullinger. So in this episode, we’re sitting down together to unpack some of the lessons, challenges, and questions we were left with after reading it. We reflect on Jackie’s extraordinary journey into the Walled City of Hong Kong, where she followed God’s call without a detailed plan, clear resources, or any real idea of what lay ahead. Her story challenged us to think about obedience, trust, surrender, and what it means to follow God when He gives you a direction but not a roadmap.  We also talk about the power of simple faith — prayer, trusting God for daily provision, sharing Jesus with boldness, and choosing to show compassion in practical ways. Throughout the book, Jackie demonstrates how ordinary acts of obedience can have an extraordinary impact when placed in God’s hands. Along the way, we wrestle with some personal questions too: Where is God asking us to trust Him more? What simple opportunities to serve might we be overlooking? And what would it look like to live with the kind of faith that says “yes” before having all the answers? Whether you’ve read the book or not, this conversation is an invitation to reflect on what faith on the frontlines might look like in your own everyday life. Resource discussed: Chasing the Dragon by Jackie Pullinger. Chapters (00:00:17) - Working Out: Chasing the Dragon by Jackie Pullinger(00:02:05) - A Taste of the Book(00:02:42) - Follow Where God Leads You(00:10:06) - Just Obedience(00:12:41) - Try Jesus: The Power of Prayer(00:19:58) - Are You Willing to Be a Fool for My Sake?(00:27:41) - Living Simply: A Challenge

    36 min
  3. Small Acts, Real Impact | When God Rewrites The Path You Were On

    May 20

    Small Acts, Real Impact | When God Rewrites The Path You Were On

    What does it look like to say yes to something you didn’t plan — and keep saying yes when the cost becomes clearer over time? Susan shares her journey from medicine and research in Harvard, Boston to leading a social impact organisation in Mumbai, working with children and families in some of the most vulnerable communities. What started as an unexpected transition became a calling shaped over time, not through pressure, but through God quietly preparing her heart along the way.  We talk about leadership, surrender, and the reality of stepping into roles that feel bigger than your experience. Susan reflects on how mentors, counsel, and faith have shaped the way she leads, and the importance of knowing you’re not called to fill someone else’s shoes, just to walk in your own. The conversation also explores the weight of social impact work, how to stay grounded when the need feels overwhelming, and what it means to focus on what’s in front of you rather than trying to solve everything at once. Susan shares practical insight on discerning God’s direction, making big decisions slowly and intentionally, and staying faithful in the season you’re in. We also talk about something that runs through this whole season, that caring for others isn’t reserved for certain roles or careers. It’s something we’re all called to, in ways that are often simple, local, and part of our everyday lives. A reminder that you don’t have to do everything — but you are called to do something. Chapters (00:01:01) - How Did You End Up in Mumbai?(00:03:07) - The transition from medical science to social work(00:07:10) - The Role of Mentors(00:10:17) - The Most Controversial Leadership Moment(00:12:25) - Vision Rescue(00:13:33) - Social Impact in a Time of Need(00:15:36) - What do Good Outcomes Look Like in Social Impact?(00:17:30) - Poverty and social impact(00:21:34) - How to Make a Social Impact(00:23:57) - Listening to God(00:26:48) - Chasing Passion in Your Career(00:28:54) - Determining When to Act and Wait on God(00:32:44) - Christian Leaders: The Need for Counsel(00:36:43) - The Social Impact of Charities(00:39:39) - Talking to My Younger Self(00:42:10) - Christian social justice(00:43:51) - Why Do We Not Do Social Justice?(00:48:57) - Samaritan on the Tube

    52 min
  4. Called to Show Up | Serving Where You Are

    May 6

    Called to Show Up | Serving Where You Are

    Faith on the frontlines doesn’t always look dramatic. Sometimes it looks like showing up, listening well, and choosing to care in the everyday. Katie shares her journey into youth services, from discovering a natural gift for connecting with people to working with women and families in crisis, and now leading within a local council supporting young people facing complex challenges. Her story isn’t built on one defining moment, but on a steady willingness to follow where God leads and serve the people in front of her.  We talk about what it really means to “be with people” — sitting in difficult stories, navigating trauma, and walking alongside others without always having quick answers. Katie opens up about the emotional weight of the work, the challenge of switching off, and the tension of wanting to give everything while learning to find balance. The conversation also brings it back to the everyday. From knocking on neighbours’ doors during COVID to building community on her street, Katie shares how small, simple acts of love can create real impact and how the “mission field” is often much closer than we think. We reflect on calling, staying the path when things feel slow or heavy, and what it means to be faithful with what’s in your hands. A reminder that impact doesn’t always look big…sometimes it looks like consistency, presence, and choosing to show up again. Chapters (00:00:17) - Working Out God(00:01:19) - Teaching in the Youth Services(00:03:34) - The role of the local council leader(00:05:17) - Katie's Career and Faith in Action(00:07:36) - "Being With the People"(00:10:54) - How do you live out your faith in the workplace?(00:13:42) - The Balance between Work and Family(00:19:07) - The Importance of Hope in Working With People(00:21:46) - Katie on her call to frontline roles(00:31:15) - On the Mission Field(00:33:51) - How to Love Your Neighbors(00:37:29) - How do you want to land on the gates of heaven?(00:44:06) - Staying the Path

    49 min
  5. Called to Care | You Can’t Do Everything, But You Can Do Something

    Apr 29

    Called to Care | You Can’t Do Everything, But You Can Do Something

    In this episode, we sit down with Ralph Boer to talk about social impact, justice, compassion, and what it really means to live out faith beyond good intentions. Ralph shares his journey from growing up in the Netherlands, to working in communications, to gradually stepping into a calling shaped not by one dramatic moment, but by consistently leaning into where God was leading — from washing student dishes, to youth work, to refugee response, homelessness, and social impact. His story is a reminder that calling often unfolds step by step, through simple obedience and a willingness to respond.  We talk about the realities of frontline work — the weight of refugee crises, homelessness, and systemic injustice — and the challenge of keeping your heart soft when the needs feel overwhelming. Ralph opens up about some of the hardest moments he’s faced, from the refugee camps in Calais to walking with vulnerable people through uncertainty, and shares how prayer, surrender, and community help him keep going. This conversation also challenges the idea that social impact is for “certain people” or specific careers. Ralph reminds us that for believers, living out justice, compassion, and practical love isn’t optional — it’s part of following Jesus. Whether that looks like advocacy, volunteering, giving, encouragement, or simply learning someone’s name, we all have a role to play. This episode is a powerful reminder that while we can’t do everything, we can all do something — and that faith on the frontlines often starts closer to home than we think. Scriptures mentioned: Luke 4:18–19, Matthew 25:35–36, Isaiah 58, Isaiah 1:17. Chapters (00:00:17) - Working Out God: Faith in the Real World(00:09:00) - Living in the Will of God(00:13:35) - What is Social Impact of the Church?(00:24:46) - Community involvement in the fight for the sick(00:25:22) - Practical ways people can get involved in social issues(00:27:34) - Social Impact and The Gospel(00:31:18) - Fighting the Calais Jungle(00:38:01) - How do I find God's strength in all of that?(00:38:48) - Peter's understanding of God's heart for people(00:47:23) - God's journey with you(00:47:35) - Scriptures for social impact work(00:51:50) - Be the Hands of the Poor

    53 min
  6. Called Into Influence | Faith in High-Stakes Spaces

    Apr 22

    Called Into Influence | Faith in High-Stakes Spaces

    In this episode, we sit down with Jen to talk about faith, justice, calling, and what it really looks like to live out your beliefs in spaces that carry real weight and responsibility. Jen shares her journey from working at the heart of UK politics to now leading advocacy and policy work at Christian Aid, where she’s involved in issues spanning climate justice, global poverty, conflict, and systemic inequality. Throughout her career, she reflects on how her faith has shaped not just what she does, but where she’s been positioned — and the responsibility that comes with that.  We talk about navigating some of the hardest questions — how to reconcile faith with the suffering we see in the world, how to stay grounded when your work exposes you to constant injustice, and what it means to be “the hands and feet” of Jesus in real, practical ways. Jen also opens up about her daily rhythms with God, leading in high-pressure environments, and the tension between anger, responsibility, and hope when facing broken systems. We explore what it looks like to carry influence without losing perspective, and how faith shows up not just in big decisions, but in everyday moments — from leadership to conversations to simply choosing how to respond. The conversation closes with a simple but powerful reminder: you don’t have to do everything to make a difference — but you are called to do something.

    1h 1m
  7. God at Work | Faith on the Frontlines

    Apr 15

    God at Work | Faith on the Frontlines

    We’re back for Season 2 of Working of God! In this first episode, we introduce a new theme that’s been deeply on our hearts — God at Work: Faith on the Frontlines. We open up about why this season matters so much to us, and the moments that have shaped that conviction — from quiet prayers asking God to “break our hearts for what breaks His,” to personal experiences that have stirred a deeper awareness of the needs around us. While our day-to-day work may not sit on the traditional “frontlines,” we explore how this calling isn’t limited to a specific role — but something every one of us is invited into. We talk about what it looks like to live out faith in real, practical ways — in our workplaces, our communities, and in the everyday moments we often overlook. From small acts of kindness to deeper questions around purpose, surrender, and obedience, this conversation sets the foundation for a season focused on people, compassion, and being the hands and feet of Jesus. We also reflect on powerful stories — from mission work to moments that challenge the way we think about success, security, and calling — and wrestle with what it means to truly offer God everything we have, not just what feels comfortable. As we begin this season, our heart is simple: to shine a light on the work being done on the frontlines, to learn from those living it out daily, and to encourage each of us to ask, “God, what can I do?” Resource mentioned: Chasing the Dragon by Jackie Pullinger.

    49 min
  8. It's A Wrap | Reflections, Faith Stirred And Stepping Into What's Next

    12/24/2025

    It's A Wrap | Reflections, Faith Stirred And Stepping Into What's Next

    In this final episode of the season, we come together to wrap up Season One, reflect on the journey so far, and share a few Christmas thoughts as the year draws to a close. We talk about the unexpected encouragement that’s come from hearing real stories — people working out their faith, careers, and callings in everyday life, and how humbling it’s been to see how God has used simple obedience to encourage others. We reflect on what it’s meant to sit in conversation together, unpacking faith, work, and life in a way that feels honest, familiar, and shared. As the year ends, we acknowledge that this season can stir up a lot of questions. Questions about work, career changes, studies, relationships, location, direction and whether the year turned out the way we hoped. We speak into those moments of reflection with encouragement: that no matter how the year has looked, God is still at work, still ordering steps, still going ahead of us, and still faithful. We close the episode, and the season, with Christmas greetings, messages from guests and listeners, and a reading from Isaiah 9:6–7, reminding us of the peace, hope, and promise found in Jesus. A gentle encouragement to step into the year ahead with expectation, trust, and the assurance that we don’t walk into it alone. Chapters (00:00:17) - A Year in the Life(00:06:07) - Christmas scripture read

    8 min
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Welcome to Working Out God — a podcast where faith meets your personal and professional journey. Hosted by Beulah and Toyin, this series dives into the personal journeys of individuals who have found strength, purpose, and guidance through their faith while navigating the unique challenges of their industries. Each episode explores how belief shapes professional life — the balance of being a Christian in today’s workplace, the lessons learned along the way, and the inspirational figures who have influenced these journeys of faith. From professionals and entrepreneurs to industry heavyweights and everyday believers, we engage in candid conversations that uncover the profound impact of faith on work, life, and calling and ask the question: how might our careers and lives look different without it? Music by The Porters Gate

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  • Creator
    Beulah & Toyin
  • Years Active
    2025 - 2026
  • Episodes
    16
  • Rating
    Clean
  • Copyright
    © 2025
  • Show Website
    Working Out God