Things Go Sideways

KiKi L'Italien
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When life, leadership, or the world go sideways, certainty doesn't show up on schedule. Things Go Sideways is a podcast for the middle of it — the part where the plan has cracked, but nothing new has fully formed yet. Each episode is a slow, honest conversation with someone living through change: a career ending, an identity shifting, a sense that what used to work no longer fits. We don't rush to lessons or tidy conclusions. We stay with what's real long enough to notice what's true. Hosted by KiKi L'Italien, Things Go Sideways is not pitching you advice, motivation, or transformation content. This podcast is bringing you orientation. A place to make sense of uncertainty without pretending you already know what comes next. (Because most of the time, we don't — and that's not a failure.) This podcast exists to help people stay present long enough to learn when certainty is gone.

  1. 3d ago

    She Swore She'd Never Build a Company Again. Then Her Grandmother Fell.

    Lindsay Friedman built two tech companies, walked away from the second after a patent asset sale, and swore she'd never build again. Then she became her grandmother's family caregiver — and the thing she said she'd never do again became the thing she couldn't not do. In this episode, Lindsay walks through the roller coaster of her first startup (a total failure), the patent sale that quietly ended her second, and the night her grandmother fell and broke her femur — the moment that pulled her back into building, this time for reasons that had nothing to do with return on investment. She and KiKi talk about what it's like to still be asking "who am I right now?" years into a pivot, why self-doubt kept her honest instead of stuck, and how being a self-described "control freak" collided with running a business built on things she couldn't control. Lindsay is now the founder of Care Bloom and LT Care Nav, and hosts the Caregivers Compass podcast. This one's for anyone whose "never again" turned out to be less final than it sounded. HIGHLIGHTS 01:33 — "Everything" — the roller coaster that made her say never again 02:28 — The patent sale that quietly closed the door on company #2 09:00 — She ghostwrote her grandmother's Holocaust survival story at 19 — years before it would matter 12:50 — The fall that turned "never again" into a new company 25:33 — "I still look around and go, who am I right now?" 32:39 — Why self-doubt is what keeps her on the right path, not off it Resources LT Care Nav podcast (Caregivers Compass) + book giveaway on care planning: ltcarenav.com/podcast  Things Go Sideways with KiKi L'Italien is a space for honest conversations about disruption, identity shifts, and reinvention — no tidy bows, just real stories about staying oriented when what you thought was certain collapses. 🎧 Listen on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or YouTube — search "Things Go Sideways Podcast Lindsay Friedman" 📩 Subscribe to the newsletter at thingsgosideways.com for patterns, tools, and behind-the-scenes reflections you won't hear anywhere else 📱 Follow @kikilitalien for more

  2. 6d ago

    He Got Laid Off — and Says It Was the Best Thing That Ever Happened to Him

    Matt West didn't have one sideways moment — he's had a sideways career. Musician, graphic designer, creative director, consultant, and now leadership coach: every time he got comfortable, the context changed underneath him. In this conversation, Matt (author of Bend, Don't Break: How to Adapt in the New World of Work) talks with KiKi about the layoff he now calls one of the best things that ever happened to him, and why he doesn't recommend saying that to anyone still in the middle of theirs. They dig into the difference between healthy stress (eustress) and the kind that actually breaks people, why curiosity lowers the emotional temperature that control tends to raise, and how AI fear often has less to do with technology and more to do with losing the story we tell about who we are. Matt also opens up about "credible vulnerability," trusting himself, others, and systems in very different ways, and why he's grieved his professional identity more times than he can count. The throughline is this...bending isn't weakness. It's what happens when you're rooted in values instead of titles. And it's the difference between adjusting and shattering when the ground shifts. Read Matt West's book! Bend, Don't Break: https://amzn.to/4wlStPb 00:00 — Opening: what it means when things go sideways 00:56 — Matt West introduces Bend, Don't Break 01:34 — Why Matt calls it a sideways career, not a sideways moment 05:31 — Parenting decisions that were "imperfect, just messy" 09:38 — Where AI fear actually comes from (identity, not technology) 13:18 — Turning emotions into data instead of threats 15:32 — The layoff Matt now calls one of the best things that happened 17:56 — "The end of expertise" and why adaptability keeps you in the room 20:12 — Toxic positivity vs. healthy positivity and mental scripts 25:30 — Trust in yourself, trust in others, trust in systems 29:04 — Bend vs. break: the actual difference explained 29:43 — Eustress: the healthy stress nobody talks about 32:34 — What are you rooted to? Titles, opinions, or values? 36:17 — Why Matt wrote the book (it started as LinkedIn posts) 40:46 — Grieving identity, over and over again 43:04 — Advice for anyone feeling the ground shift right now 45:54 — Closing thought: bending is awareness, not weakness Matt West's book: Bend, Don't Break: How to Adapt in the New World of Work — benddontbreakbook.com (also available on Amazon, Barnes & Noble, and Bookshop.org) Matt West's LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/westpractices

  3. Jul 11

    The Satir Change Model: Making Sense of Chaos with Adrian Segar

    In this conversation, I sit down with my friend Adrian Segar to explore the Satir Model of Change—a framework for understanding why things feel so chaotic when everything is shifting (check out Adrian's great post about change models, including Satir's, on Conferences That Work. Adrian shares how foreign elements in his life (job loss, family crisis, identity shifts) eventually led to new, more authentic chapters.   Adrian Segar is known for designing gatherings that help people move from guarded to honest, and from conversation to action. But in this conversation, he's taking us on a guided tour of Virginia Satir's model of change. This model describes how change feels. Adrian walks us through: Why we start in an old status quo What happens when a foreign element hits our lives Why the messy, emotional chaos that follows is actually normal How a transforming idea emerges And how we eventually land in a new status quo Along the way, he shares very personal sideways stories. From leaving a physics career after 25 years of preparation, to losing a business overnight, to navigating the long, hard road of parenting adopted twins in crisis, Adrian shares how each of those disruptions eventually revealed unexpected silver linings. If you're in the middle of a layoff, a big transition, a family upheaval, or a season of not knowing, my hope is that this episode gives you language, context, and a little more compassion for yourself. Please enjoy this conversation with Adrian Segar.

  4. Jun 10

    When the Job Goes, Who Are You? Stan Gibson on Identity After Loss

    Stan Gibson built four decades of corporate success — and then watched it dissolve in a single phone call. When the Fortune 100 company he'd given everything to displaced his position, Stan wasn't blindsided by the job loss. He was blindsided by the question underneath it: who are you when the career that defined you is gone? In this conversation, Stan Gibson — executive coach, keynote speaker, and author of Living a Rich and Intentional Life — walks through what it actually takes to rebuild identity after disruption. He covers the moment a friend's terminal cancer diagnosis reoriented his entire understanding of what "rich" means; how his wife's stage four cancer diagnosis forced him to practice what he preached about self-care; and the coaching framework he uses with executives navigating their own identity collapse — from strengths mapping to "I am" identity statements to a reverse-engineered five-year vision process. Stan introduces a through-line he calls the "genius paragraph" — a granular translation of your five core strengths into a statement of who you are at your best. It's not motivational filler. It's a tool for people who've lost the external structure that told them who they were, and need something internal to replace it. Why Listen Now: If you've ever let a job title answer the question "who are you" — and then lost the job — this episode is a hand on the shoulder, not a blueprint. Stan's been there. He built a life from the rubble twice. If this is you… You're still carrying the weight of a disruption you didn't choose, and part of what's heavy is that you don't know who you are without it. Resources Double Down on You PDF (neuroscience-based resources: sleep, nutrition, fitness, visualization) — Stan Gibson: https://leadwithstan.com Living a Rich and Intentional Life — Stan Gibson (book) Website: https://www.stangibsonspeaks.com Speaker Reel: https://www.stangibsonspeaks.com/speaking LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/stangibsonspeaks The Inspiration Podcasts with Stan — Stan Gibson's podcast Psycho-Cybernetics — Dr. Maxwell Maltz (referenced by Stan) About the Things Go Sideways Podcast When life or leadership goes sideways, the story's just getting interesting. Things Go Sideways with KiKi L'Italien features honest conversations with leaders, creators, and changemakers navigating disruption, uncertainty, and identity shifts. Each episode explores trust, resilience, and what it means to stay human when certainty breaks down. New episodes share real stories about rebuilding agency and meaning without rushing to quick-fixes, spiritual bypassing, or pretending clarity comes easy. Connect With Things Go Sideways: Substack: https://thingsgosideways.substack.com/welcome  Website: https://thingsgosideways.com  LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/kikilitalien/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kikilitalien/  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thingsgosidewayspod and https://www.tiktok.com/@thingsgosideways  For Business Inquiries: kiki@thingsgosideways.com  Listen & Subscribe Substack: https://thingsgosideways.substack.com/  Website: https://thingsgosideways.com/listen  Libsyn RSS Feed: https://feeds.libsyn.com/597715/rss Libsyn Podcast Page: https://sites.libsyn.com/597715/site  Libsyn Video Feed: https://feeds.libsyn.com/597715/spotify Spotify (video): https://open.spotify.com/show/0AToVdda4omlLpG9KpQ0Hj Spotify (audio): https://open.spotify.com/show/2K6DYzLMRkbT4FfmDaFP7a?si=4b4c70c5a3a84ce2 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/things-go-sideways/id1849510232 Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/87fc90ea-455c-443d-a24f-bd3bccc2e764/things-go-sideways Audible: https://www.audible.com/podcast/Things-Go-Sideways/B0G59XM2XY YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhenThingsGoSideways  Join the Community Things Go Sideways Book Club: https://bookclubs.com/clubs/6100919/join/4db79195 YouTube Playlist (Full Episodes): https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLRiPZ_HubKQpcbMaCYtlJN9D6qTv4tOrb LinkedIn Company Page: https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/things-go-sideways/ Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1150721167011215 Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61585524425304 00:00 — KiKi introduces Stan Gibson and the episode's stakes 01:53 — Stan describes his first sideways moment: threatened with termination at 23 03:45 — Writing the plan on a piece of paper: "No one will ever dictate my future again" 05:12 — The second sideways moment: Fortune 100 layoff he didn't see coming 06:40 — "Always have a plan B" — why Stan was ready the morning after 07:30 — Jerry walks over at dinner: "When death becomes certain, life becomes rich" 09:10 — Wife's stage four cancer diagnosis changes how Stan lives his own framework 11:00 — The swim lane metaphor: knowing who you are and who belongs beside you 12:15 — Neuroscience of identity: RAS, amygdala, and why early lies become truth 15:23 — Working with a client whose career became her entire identity 17:45 — The genius paragraph: translating Clifton Strengths into who you are at your best 20:00 — Visioning backward: assuming five-year success and asking what got you there 22:10 — "I am" versus "I will someday": stating identity, not intention 23:15 — Mother's passing, wife's cancer, and using affirmations to embrace hard seasons 24:49 — Solomon's vapor: life isn't meaningless, it moves fast 29:00 — Marianne Williamson quote: it's our light, not our darkness, that frightens us most 34:46 — Stan's closing counsel: "Own the moment. Are you a victim or are you an owner?"

  5. Jun 8

    She Went In for Her First Mammogram. Then Everything Changed.

    Cecilia Satovich was 40, raising three young daughters, and living inside the life she had hoped for. Then she went in for her first mammogram. What started as something routine (an appointment you know you should make, the kind you might delay because life is full and you are busy and also, let's be real, who wants to deal with it?) became the beginning of a breast cancer diagnosis right as the world was heading into the uncertainty of early 2020. In this episode of Things Go Sideways, Cecilia talks about what it felt like to hear the word cancer when her children were still small, treatment was suddenly complicated by COVID, and the future she had been counting on no longer felt guaranteed. We talk about mammograms, fear, motherhood, asking for help, saying the wrong thing, and how hard it can be to stay close to someone else's pain when you don't know what to do with your own discomfort. This is not a neat cancer-survivor story with a shiny bow on it. Cecilia's story is about what happens when the body interrupts the plan, when ordinary life becomes precious in a way that feels almost unbearable, and when surviving something changes how you show up for other people who are still in it. Because sometimes the sideways moment is not only the diagnosis. Sometimes it is realizing how much you love your life. And yes. Get the mammogram. --- What is it like when your first mammogram leads to a breast cancer diagnosis? When a first mammogram leads to a breast cancer diagnosis, the shock is not only medical. It can interrupt your sense of safety, your plans, your family life, and the future you thought you were standing inside. In this episode of Things Go Sideways, Cecilia Satovich talks about being diagnosed with breast cancer at 40, while raising three young daughters and beginning treatment during the uncertainty of early 2020. Her story is about fear, motherhood, asking for help, and what changes when your body forces you to pay attention. --- Connect With Things Go Sideways: Substack: https://thingsgosideways.substack.com/welcome  Website: https://thingsgosideways.com  LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/kikilitalien/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kikilitalien/  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thingsgosidewayspod and https://www.tiktok.com/@thingsgosideways  For Business Inquiries: kiki@thingsgosideways.com

  6. May 28

    Grace Fatigue, Boundaries, and the Business That Survived Two Crises — with Lori Zoss Kraska

    What happens when you've already had your wake-up call — and life sends another one? Lori Zoss Kraska built Growth Owl into a thriving consultancy helping nonprofits and associations land Fortune 1000 sponsorships. Then, in 2022, a doctor's hunch caught bilateral pulmonary embolisms that had no symptoms she could feel.  She was answering client emails from the ER! The lesson stuck — until her mother walked into knee surgery in 2024 and walked out with the first signs of vascular dementia. In this episode of Things Go Sideways, Lori shares what it's actually like to run a business while becoming a primary caregiver. She talks about "grace fatigue" — the exhaustion of trying to make everyone else comfortable.  She talks about boundaries that aren't slogans. She talks about why her client roster looks completely different now, why perfectionism didn't survive the second crisis, and the conversation with her mother on a patio that became an assignment for the rest of her life. This one is for anyone in the middle of caregiving, anyone whose body has tried to warn them, and anyone rebuilding a business around a life that won't sit still. Listen now. When things go sideways, that's where the real story begins.  Connect with Lori: Website: thegrowthowl.com Books: lorizossbooks.com LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/lorizoss 00:00 — Cold open / intro 01:30 — Welcome and setup: holding responsibility and uncertainty at once 02:30 — The knee surgery waiting room: noticing the signs 04:00 — The sundowning event after surgery and the diagnosis 06:30 — "I had to start respecting my boundaries" 08:30 — Why she stopped taking every client and started getting selective 10:30 — Working with creators and voiceover artists — the new audience 12:00 — Walking, journaling, gratitude: self-care as infrastructure 15:00 — 2022: the pulmonary embolism and the lesson she didn't quite learn yet 18:00 — The healthcare system, the squeaky wheel, and being your own advocate  20:30 — Throwing out the perfectionism 22:30 — "Once I made the choice to work on myself, the right clients came" 25:00 — Trust, taboo, and the people who can't talk about dementia 27:30 — Grace fatigue (this is the segment to clip) 30:00 — The patio conversation with her mother 32:00 — Becoming an exceptional listener 34:30 — Her father, the protector vs. the daughter, the solutions-provider 37:00 — Final advice: listen to your body 39:00 — Close and CTAs grace fatigue, boundaries, caregiver burnout, sandwich generation, women in business, only child caregiver, corporate sponsorship, nonprofit consulting, health scare, blood clots, perfectionism, client selection, business pivot For Business Inquiries: kiki@thingsgosideways.com  Listen & Subscribe Substack: https://thingsgosideways.substack.com/  Website: https://thingsgosideways.com/listen  Libsyn RSS Feed: https://feeds.libsyn.com/597715/rss Libsyn Podcast Page: https://sites.libsyn.com/597715/site  Libsyn Video Feed: https://feeds.libsyn.com/597715/spotify Spotify (video): https://open.spotify.com/show/0AToVdda4omlLpG9KpQ0Hj Spotify (audio): https://open.spotify.com/show/2K6DYzLMRkbT4FfmDaFP7a?si=4b4c70c5a3a84ce2 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/things-go-sideways/id1849510232 Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/87fc90ea-455c-443d-a24f-bd3bccc2e764/things-go-sideways Audible: https://www.audible.com/podcast/Things-Go-Sideways/B0G59XM2XY YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhenThingsGoSideways  Join the Community Things Go Sideways Book Club: https://bookclubs.com/clubs/6100919/join/4db79195 YouTube Playlist (Full Episodes): https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLRiPZ_HubKQpcbMaCYtlJN9D6qTv4tOrb LinkedIn Company Page: https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/things-go-sideways/ Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1150721167011215 Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61585524425304 Share Your Sideways Story Podcast Guest Intake Form: https://forms.gle/UcccE9eJBSfEc9UN9 Schedule a Podcast Interview: https://calendly.com/kiki-interview/podcast-interview

  7. May 21

    When Everything Falls Apart at Once. The "Think Liquid" Mindset for Surviving Forced Change | Geoff Livingston

    When career, grief, and identity all come apart in the same 30 days, the instinct is to fight harder. Geoff Livingston learned the opposite. In this episode of Things Go Sideways, marketer, author, and Zen Buddhist Geoff Livingston walks through the month his co-founded company Cognitive Path wound down and his father died — and the "think liquid" mindset he built afterward for navigating change you can't outrun. This is a conversation about forced surrender as a starting point, not a failure. About honoring red flags the first time you see them, instead of the third. About what the body teaches you that the mind can't. And about why the fastest way through grief, job loss, or any sideways moment is to let it bleed — not stuff it down. Geoff's new book, "Now Is Gone: Think Liquid to Navigate Never-Ending Change," comes out June 2. WHAT YOU'LL LEARN - Why surrender isn't losing — and what it actually unlocks - The "think liquid" framework for adapting at the speed of real change - How to recognize red flags before they become exit signs - Why misery often lives in how we consume life, not just what happens to us - What endurance running teaches about managing pain vs. quitting well TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Cold open: the 30 days everything came apart 02:11 Cognitive Path winds down as Geoff's father is dying 04:42 The heart attack, the DNR, the drive back 07:11 "Begin by surrendering" — what surrender actually looks like 10:13 Honoring red flags: why we ignore what we already see 14:58 The "think liquid" mindset, explained 19:00 What the body teaches the mind about discomfort 21:48 Sassy the dog, Zen sits, and the social media audit 25:03 Writing the book in 30 days 28:18 The red flag Geoff is honoring right now 31:15 Manageable pain vs. real pain — and when to quit 41:33 "Let it bleed": honest advice for someone in their sideways moment CONNECT WITH GEOFF LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/geoffliving/  Substack — The Buzz: https://buzzbylivingston.substack.com  Generative Buzz: https://generativebuzz.ai  Geoff's book, Now Is Gone: Think Liquid to Navigate Never-Ending Change, comes out June 2, 2026. Pre-orders are eBook-only; print will be available shortly before the publishing date. Available here: https://www.amazon.com/Now-Gone-Liquid-Navigate-Neverending-ebook/dp/B0GHNMM383/ FOLLOW THINGS GO SIDEWAYS https://thingsgosideways.com/home Things Go Sideways Substack: https://thingsgosideways.substack.com/welcome TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thingsgosidewayspod and https://www.tiktok.com/@thingsgosideways For Business Inquiries: kiki@thingsgosideways.com Libsyn RSS Feed: https://feeds.libsyn.com/597715/rss Libsyn Podcast Page: https://sites.libsyn.com/597715/site Libsyn Video Feed: https://feeds.libsyn.com/597715/spotify Spotify (video): https://open.spotify.com/show/0AToVdda4omlLpG9KpQ0Hj Spotify (audio): https://open.spotify.com/show/2K6DYzLMRkbT4FfmDaFP7a?si=4b4c70c5a3a84ce2 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/things-go-sideways/id1849510232 Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/87fc90ea-455c-443d-a24f-bd3bccc2e764/things-go-sideways Audible: https://www.audible.com/podcast/Things-Go-Sideways/B0G59XM2XY YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhenThingsGoSideways  Spotify | Apple Podcasts | YouTube — search "Things Go Sideways Podcast" #ThingsGoSideways #CareerChange #ChangeManagement #GeoffLivingston #ThinkLiquid

  8. May 13

    What Is Digital Nomad Life Really Like? The Real Story

    What is digital nomad life really like? For Katherine Tuominen — marketing strategist and founder of Catalyst Brand Strategy — it looked nothing like the Instagram version: visa battles, reverse culture shock, lost friendships, and the slow realization that a beautiful destination doesn't outrun an unhealed self. It started during Melbourne's hardest lockdown, when she couldn't leave her house without a grocery receipt and made a quiet promise to herself: she would never feel that trapped again. In this conversation, Katherine talks with KiKi about what the lifestyle actually costs, why the nine-to-five script makes any other path feel reckless to the people around you, how she landed on a travel rhythm that worked for her after almost three years of trial and error, and how the cultural fluency she's built abroad now shapes the brand work she does with founders in the health and wellness space. The thread running through it: when you strip away the titles, the resume, the corporate version of yourself nobody calls you by overseas, what's left tends to be what was already there — the kid who wrote plays, drew on lunch breaks, made up worlds. The life she designed didn't invent a new Katherine. It handed back the original one. Resources Catalyst Brand Strategy — Katherine Tuominen (website): https://catalystbrandstrategy.com Katherine Tuominen (LinkedIn): https://www.linkedin.com/in/katherine-tuominen/ Catalyst Brand Strategy (Instagram): https://www.instagram.com/catalyst_brandstrategy/ HIGHLIGHTS 00:00 — KiKi opens with the gap between designed life and lived life 01:15 — Katherine on what a digital nomad actually is 02:48 — Melbourne lockdown becomes the non-negotiable turning point 04:18 — Making the jump: backlash, lost friendships, going against the grain 06:53 — The Instagram version meets the laptop on the beach 08:55 — First real hurdle: baggage travels with you 10:25 — Finding her travel rhythm after almost three years of trial and error 13:18 — How cultural nuance reshaped her brand work with clients 16:39 — The third culture kid origin: Finland, China, Australia 20:08 — Identity stripped of titles: who you were as a kid is who you are 24:30 — Fear as guide, and breaking the leap into bite-sized starts 30:11 — Closing: you don't have to resolve everything, just stop pretending If you've been suspecting the life you carefully designed is starting to design you back, Katherine's story is a steady, honest look at what happens when you stop performing the version that's been working. Listen & Subscribe Substack: https://thetrustproject.substack.com/  Libsyn RSS Feed: https://feeds.libsyn.com/597715/rss Libsyn Podcast Page: https://sites.libsyn.com/597715/site  Libsyn Video Feed: https://feeds.libsyn.com/597715/spotify Spotify (video): https://open.spotify.com/show/0AToVdda4omlLpG9KpQ0Hj Spotify (audio): https://open.spotify.com/show/2K6DYzLMRkbT4FfmDaFP7a?si=4b4c70c5a3a84ce2 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/things-go-sideways/id1849510232 Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/87fc90ea-455c-443d-a24f-bd3bccc2e764/things-go-sideways Audible: https://www.audible.com/podcast/Things-Go-Sideways/B0G59XM2XY YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhenThingsGoSideways

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When life, leadership, or the world go sideways, certainty doesn't show up on schedule. Things Go Sideways is a podcast for the middle of it — the part where the plan has cracked, but nothing new has fully formed yet. Each episode is a slow, honest conversation with someone living through change: a career ending, an identity shifting, a sense that what used to work no longer fits. We don't rush to lessons or tidy conclusions. We stay with what's real long enough to notice what's true. Hosted by KiKi L'Italien, Things Go Sideways is not pitching you advice, motivation, or transformation content. This podcast is bringing you orientation. A place to make sense of uncertainty without pretending you already know what comes next. (Because most of the time, we don't — and that's not a failure.) This podcast exists to help people stay present long enough to learn when certainty is gone.

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  • Creator
    KiKi L'Italien
  • Years Active
    2025 - 2026
  • Episodes
    23
  • Rating
    Clean
  • Copyright
    © 2026
  • Show Website
    Things Go Sideways