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Hosts Jonah and Journey dive into the complete bodies of work for some of New Hollywood’s most unique filmmakers. By contextualizing them with their peers and the industry they worked in and tracking their highs and lows beyond the heyday of the American New Wave, we hope to better frame the influence of these directors and understand the complexities of their careers. Currently exploring the filmography of Peter Bogdanovich.

  1. Jul 17

    Texasville (1990) w/ Kyle Amato

    It’s a new decade for Peter Bogdanovich and for him that means returning to familiar territory. This week we are joined by Boston Hassle film critic and Hawke Cast cohost Kyle Amato to talk about 1990’s Texasville, the sequel to The Last Picture Show that nobody really asked for (but we quite enjoyed anyway). With nearly all the cast returning and some new faces (oh hey Annie Potts!!), Bog tries to make a comeback by following the life of Jeff Bridges’ Duane in Reagan-era Texas. It’s melancholic and funny all at once and we really wish that people would give it a chance! They even put both the theatrical and director’s cut versions on the Criterion disc of The Last Picture Show! No excuse not to watch! We also talk about Bar Rescue, legacy sequels, Wahlburgers, Journey's continued dislike for The Napa Boys, and the multiple Robert Altman movies Texasville made us think of. Plus, we advocate for how everyone should watch Peter Weir’s Fearless, work out a premise for Call Me by Your Name 2: This Time It’s a Chick!, and Jonah commits the unforgivable sin of forgetting a critical hotel for hotel watch.   Further “Reading” By Bogdanovich (2011) Picture This: The Times of Peter Bogdanovich in Archer City, Texas (1991) Picture Shows: The Life and Films of Peter Bogdanovich by Andrew Yule Picturing Peter Bogdanovich by Peter Tonguette Cybil Disobedience by Cybill Shepherd with Aimee Lee Ball “Annie Potts: Deep in the Heart of ‘Texasville’” by David Wallace for the LA Times (Sept. 28, 1990) AFI Catalog for Texasville Variety review of Texasville Peter Travers’ review of Texasville for Rolling Stone Vincent Canby’s review of Texasville for The NYT Janet Maslin’s review of Texasville for The NYT “Welcome to the Age of the Legacyquel” by Matt Singer for Screen Crush, November 23, 2015 The Last Picture Show Criterion ft. Texasville Roger Ebert reviews Texasville Siskel and Ebert review Texasville Peter discussing Texasville with Bobbie Wygant, September 22, 1990 Peter discussing Texasville with Bob Costas, October 1, 1990 Cloris Leachman discussing Texasville with Bobbie Wygant, September 22, 1990 THE BOGDANOVICH ARCHIVE We have a website now! Visit sortbyearliest.com   Next Episode: Noises Off! (1992) with Jane Altoids   Music by Ryan (twitter.com/molecularlioneI) Support your local independent cinemas and video stores!   Follow Us! Sort By: Earliest instagram.com/sortby_earliest   Kyle Amato Kyle's Substack Read Kyle's work for Boston Hassle Hawke Cast   Jonah letterboxd.com/jonahp97 twitter.com/jon_ahhhh   Journey letterboxd.com/journeyb instagram.com/journey_brad

    Texasville (1990) w/ Kyle Amato
  2. Jul 3

    BONUS: The City Girl (1984) + An '80s Roundup w/ Alex Kittle

    After a string of unique releases (and an unexpected relief special we found) this week we’re wrapping up Peter’s 1980s! Much like the 1970s, Peter had a number of unrealized projects in this tumultuous decade (imagine Bog’s Popeye!) and also had his first executive producer credit with Moon Pictures: Martha Coolidge’s 1984 narrative feature debut, The City Girl! The City Girl follows a young Toronto photographer as she breaks up with her s****y boyfriend, has a charmingly awkward threesome, and investigates a local cult. It’s a very solid picture that’s sadly only available via some VHS rips. We also talk about our continued dislike for Ryan O’Neal, Czechoslovakian New Wave classic Daisies, how offputting it is to actually project Targets on film, Peter kinda-sorta being the reason this movie has never had an actual release outside festivals, King Kong needing a heart transplant, and Colleen Camp singing for the city giiiiiiiiiiiirl.    Further “Reading” The City Girl (1984) By Bogdanovich (2011) Picture Shows: The Life and Films of Peter Bogdanovich by Andrew Yule Picturing Peter Bogdanovich by Peter Tonguette Destroy All Movies!!! The Complete Guide To Punks On Film by Zack Carlson & Bryan Connolly Cinema Her Way: Visionary Female Directors In Their Own Words by Marya E. Gates “Rusty Mason: The real woman behind 'Mask'” By Iris Krasnow for UPI (May 14, 1985) “Well, Hello Molly Ringwald!” by Richard Corliss for Time (May 26, 1986) “Our Entire Belief System Must Change” by Martha Coolidge for the NYT (August 14, 2012) “The Chronicler of the Kingdom of New York: Peter Kaplan 1954-2013” by M.H. Miller for Observer (November 30, 2013) “Present Tense: Martha Coolidge” by Sheila O’Malley for Film Comment (Mar/April 2020) “‘I Loved John. I Miss Him a Lot.’ Peter Bogdanovich Reminisces on His Friend John Cassavetes” by John Gallagher for MovieMaker (January 31, 2023) Private Lives screenplay Whereabouts screenplay and draft notes Wild About Harry screenplay The Intimate Writings of Theodor Hammer screenplay Orson Welles Moonlight Intro   THE BOGDANOVICH ARCHIVE We have a website now! Visit sortbyearliest.com Next Episode: Texasville (1990) with Kyle Amato   Music by Ryan (twitter.com/molecularlioneI)   Support your local independent cinemas and video stores!   Follow Us! Sort By: Earliest instagram.com/sortby_earliest   Alex Kittle  instagram.com/strictlybrohibited instagram.com/panandscan/ etsy.com/shop/panandscan letterboxd.com/alexkittle/   Jonah letterboxd.com/jonahp97 twitter.com/jon_ahhhh   Journey letterboxd.com/journeyb instagram.com/journey_brad

    BONUS: The City Girl (1984) + An '80s Roundup w/ Alex Kittle
  3. Jun 26

    Friend to Friend (1989)

    In a 🚨🚨Special Alert 🚨🚨 episode, we are talking about Peter Bogdanovich’s Armenian Earthquake Relief special, Friend to Friend! After months of relentless searching and investigating, Jonah discovered that TWO copies of this Bogdanovich oddity (Bogoddity, some might say) live at the Armenian Museum of America in Watertown, Massachusetts!   In this episode, Jonah tells of his odyssey to find Friend to Friend and we discuss our thoughts on the special itself. Made in an effort to fundraise for relief after the December 1988 earthquake, this special switches between two points. On one hand we are shown informative documentary footage about the earthquake, the Armenian genocide, and overall Armenian history. On the other, we also meet some of the biggest stars of the late 80’s that they could ring up rehearsing the English version of Charles Aznavour’s “Pour toi, Arménie.” We've got Liza, We've got Dionne Warwick, we've got Mannix from Mannix! We also talk about our continued hate for Fathom Events.   Further “Reading” Friend to Friend: Armenian Earthquake Relief (1989), now on YouTube! “Stars sing 'For You, Armenia'” from UPI (January 29, 1989) “Raising Their Voices to Aid Armenian Orphans” by John Burman for the L.A. Times (January 31, 1989) “Stars Band Together For Armenia” by Tom De Savia for Cash Box Magazine [Pg. 4] (February 11, 1989)  THE BOGDANOVICH ARCHIVE   Next Episode: ‘80s Recap + The City Girl (1984) w/ Alex Kittle Music by Ryan (twitter.com/molecularlioneI) Support your local independent cinemas and video stores!   Follow Us! Sort By: Earliest instagram.com/sortby_earliest Jonah letterboxd.com/jonahp97 twitter.com/jon_ahhhh Journey letterboxd.com/journeyb instagram.com/journey_brad

  4. Jun 19

    Illegally Yours (1988)

    We knew there would be some low points in Bogdanovich’s filmography but.. Whew. Talk about a new low! Wait… maybe a Rob Lowe! That’s right, this week we are talking about absolutely nobody’s favorite Bogdanovich picture: Illegally Yours! A movie we watched and somehow found enough to talk about for 90ish minutes. It’s a film that makes no sense, that nobody had fun making, and flopped so bad in summer test screenings that it got pushed to a January release. Illegally Yours is an attempt at a screwball comedy; young juror Richard Dice (Rob Lowe) tries to save his childhood crush, Molly (Colleen Camp), from being sent to jail. There’s cassette tapes, castles, St. Augustine, and Harry Carey Jr.! We also talk about Rob Lowe’s 1989 Academy Awards opening musical number with Snow White, the Nate Rate©, Pete’s weirdest new relationship, “horse protein”, and imagining Bogdanovich’s version of Dune. Further “Reading” By Bogdanovich (2011) Picture Shows: The Life and Films of Peter Bogdanovich by Andrew Yule Picturing Peter Bogdanovich by Peter Tonguette Stories I Only Tell My Friends by Rob Lowe Illegally Yours (1988) on Tubi Illegally Yours Trailer #1 llegally Yours Trailer #2 “The Rejected Flower: A Heartfelt Defense of Peter Bogdanovich’s Romantic Freefall Through Space, ILLEGALLY YOURS” by James Kenney “Illegally Yours” by Variety Staff (December 31, 1987) “Tough Test” from the L.A. Times Archive (July 19, 1987) “PETER BOGDANOVICH: The Hollywood Flashback Interview” by Alex Simon (April 2002) “Debt-Ridden De Laurentiis is Filmstuck” for the Chicago Tribune (February 24, 1988) Trailer for Young Washington (if a single soul reading this decides to watch, please pirate it and do not give Angel Studios any money) Rob Lowe Opens the 1989 Oscars with Snow White! “Photo Archive: Illegally Yours | Star Rob Lowe and director Peter Bogdanovich make a really bad movie in St. Augustine in 1988” in the St. Augustine Record (September 25, 2012)   THE BOGDANOVICH ARCHIVE Next Episode: ‘80s Recap + The City Girl (1984) Music by Ryan (twitter.com/molecularlioneI) Support your local independent cinemas and video stores! Follow Us! Sort By: Earliest instagram.com/sortby_earliest Jonah letterboxd.com/jonahp97 twitter.com/jon_ahhhh Journey letterboxd.com/journeyb instagram.com/journey_brad

    Illegally Yours (1988)
  5. Jun 5

    Mask (1985) w/ Billy Thegenus

    This week, we discuss everyone’s favorite ‘80s classic about a boy and his mother, first loves, fighting back against bullies, a close-knit community, and life and death in sunny California. What’s that, Back to the Future? No, this one actually does end up starring Eric Stoltz, it’s Peter Bogdanovich’s 1985 film Mask! We are joined by film programmer and trivia host legend Billy Thegenus to discuss Bog’s last box office success with this Cher, Eric Stoltz, Sam Elliott, and Laura Dern drama. In Peter’s return to directing after a four-year break, he tackles the real-life story of Rocky Dennis, a teenager with a rare disease that causes cranial enlargements, and his mother, Rusty. Would you be shocked to hear that Cher and Bogdanovich clashed on set? We weren’t. We also discuss Alex Proyas’ Knowing, more tree calendars, Ryan O’Neal (we simply cannot escape him), Eric Stoltz directing several episodes of Glee, and the plight of Rotta the Hut. Also, a loud noise we thought was a branch hitting Billy’s roof was actually a meteor creating a sonic boom over Massachusetts (timestamp - 1:02:33). Even 1,000 miles away, the power of podcasting keeps Journey in the loop on New England supremacy. Further “Reading” By Bogdanovich (2011) The Elephant Man (1980) A Different Man (2024) Picture Shows: The Life and Films of Peter Bogdanovich by Andrew Yule Picturing Peter Bogdanovich by Peter Tonguette Cher: Part 1: The Memoir by Cher Mask AFI Catalog “Mask, Bogdanovich Tale of a Rare Disease” by Vincent Canby for the NYT (March 8, 1985) “The Drama Behind Mask” by Michelle Green for People (March 18, 1985) “An Unusual Mother: Helping Her Children Face Down Death” by Linda Witt for the Chicago Tribune (May 11, 1986) New Musical ‘Mask’ Premieres at Pasadena Playhouse “Mask, Musical Tale of Mother, Son and Belonging, Begins World Premiere in CA” by Kenneth Jones for Playbill (March 12, 2008)  “In Conversation: Peter Bogdanovich” by Andrew Goldman for Vulture (2019) “Sam Elliott was a fan of Cher long before they starred together in Mask” by Clark Collis for Entertainment Weekly (February 12, 2019) “Florence Tullis, portrayed by Cher in ‘Mask,’ dies at age 70” by Dennis McLellan for the LA Times (November 19, 2006) “'Mask' Director Peter Bogdanovich on Cher's Bad Attitude — and Why She Still Deserved the Oscar” by Peter Bogdanovich as told to Tatiana Siegel, originally published in The Hollywood Reporter (August 28, 2015) “Cher Lambasts ‘Mask’ Director Peter Bogdanovich As Misogynistic, A ‘Pig’: ‘So F—ing Arrogant’” by Natalie Oganesyan for Deadline (November 23, 2024) THE BOGDANOVICH ARCHIVE   Next Episode: Illegally Yours (1988) Music by Ryan (twitter.com/molecularlioneI) Support your local independent cinemas and video stores!   Follow Us! Sort By: Earliest instagram.com/sortby_earliest   Billy Spielberg x Nolan Film Series at the Coolidge Crystal Ballroom Film Trivia letterboxd.com/billyblanco   Jonah letterboxd.com/jonahp97 twitter.com/jon_ahhhh   Journey letterboxd.com/journeyb instagram.com/journey_brad

    Mask (1985) w/ Billy Thegenus
  6. May 22

    BONUS: Star 80 (1983) w/ Chris Woodward

    This week, we take a turn from Bogdanovich and check in on his cinematic analogs with Bob Fosse’s final film, Star 80. Fosse takes on Dorothy Stratten’s rise to stardom, meeting and falling in love with Bogdanovich (or, according to the film, “Aram Nicholas”), and the tragic murder at the hands of her husband.    We also discuss the atrocious television movie version starring Jamie Lee Curtis, how to spot a Bogdanovich analog if he isn’t wearing a bandana, Robert Redford’s final film choices, the legacy of the Jackass franchise, and why Peter got really into making calendars based on trees.    Further “Reading” Death of a Centerfold: The Dorothy Stratten Story (1981) By Bogdanovich (2011) One Day Since Yesterday: Peter Bogdanovich & the Lost American Film (2014) 20/20: Death of Playmate Pt. 1 (Full episode available on Hulu) Picture Shows: The Life and Films of Peter Bogdanovich by Andrew Yule Picturing Peter Bogdanovich by Peter Tonguette The Killing of the Unicorn by Peter Bogdanovich Star 80 DVD listing Star 80 AFI Catalog “Death of a Playmate” by Teresa Carpenter for the Village Voice, November 1980 “Star 80, A Sex-Symbol's Life and Death” by Vincent Canby for the New York Times (November 10, 1983) Star 80 by Roger Ebert (November 10, 1983) “Mariel Hemingway: Bob Fosse ‘Literally Chased Me Around a Couch’” by Emily Tess Katz for Huffpost (April 9, 2015) “Eric Roberts Says Bob Fosse Made Him Spend the Night in the Real ‘Star 80’ Murder Apartment” by Seth Abramovitch (April 20, 2026)   THE BOGDANOVICH ARCHIVE Theme music by Ryan (twitter.com/molecularlioneI) Support your local independent cinemas and video stores! Follow Us! Sort By: Earliest instagram.com/sortby_earliest   Chris Podside Picnic on Patreon letterboxd.com/c_w_w twitter.com/cww_0   Jonah letterboxd.com/jonahp97 twitter.com/jon_ahhhh   Journey letterboxd.com/journeyb instagram.com/journey_brad

    BONUS: Star 80 (1983) w/ Chris Woodward
  7. May 8

    They All Laughed (1981) w/ Drusilla Adeline

    They all laughed… and so did we! We also cried, just a bit. This week, we finally hit a new decade for Bogdanovich as we explore his 1981 misunderstood masterpiece, They All Laughed. And to do this we’re joined by graphic designer, poster artist, and co-host of the arthouse horror podcast Bloodhaus, Drusilla Adeline! The film stars a stacked cast of both Old and New Hollywood: John Ritter, Colleen Camp, Dorothy Stratten, Audrey Hepburn, and the Saint of Singapore himself Ben Gazarra. Affairs, private detectives, roller skating, and even more Peter self-inserts abound. What can we say? We all really adored this movie.    We also discuss Peter playing pinball and eating at the buffet at the Playboy Mansion, Dan Akroyd’s cannibal directorial debut Nothing But Trouble, introducing a loved one to Twin Peaks, how so many people failed Dorothy Stratten, our continued reverence for Robby Müller’s cinematography, and envisioning Peter Bogdanovich discussing ethical non-monogamy.    Further “Reading” By Bogdanovich (2011) One Day Since Yesterday: Peter Bogdanovich & the Lost American Film (2014) Picture Shows: The Life and Films of Peter Bogdanovich by Andrew Yule Picturing Peter Bogdanovich by Peter Tonguette The Killing of the Unicorn by Peter Bogdanovich They All Laughed DVD Release If you, for whatever reason, are wondering what Tarantino put on his 2002 Sight and Sound list Bogdanovich talking about Dorothy Stratten Vincent Canby’s review for the NYT; November 20, 1981 LA Times article about Bogdanovich having to declare bankruptcy due to self-distributing They All Laughed Dorothy Stratten on Johnny Carson; April 16, 1980 WKRP in Cincinnati S04E10 Love, Exciting and New (Colleen Camp promoting They All Laughed appearance) San Diego news report on the festival premiere of They All Laughed Bobbie Wygant interviews Peter Bogdanovich for They All Laughed Q&A with Peter Bogdanovich & Alex Ross Perry for They All Laughed (September 21, 2012) “Slippery as the Dickens: Peter Bogdanovich on “They All Laughed’”by Peter Sobczynski for RogerEbert.com (October 13, 2016) "Peter Bogdanovich’s Dying Wish Was for His Lost Classic ‘They All Laughed’ to Finally Be Seen" by Harrison Richlin for IndieWire (September 24, 2024) You Must Remember This - “Dead Blondes, Episode 13: Dorothy Stratten" (April 25, 2017) You Must Remember This - “Polly Platt, The Invisible Woman, Episode 6: Pretty Baby and a Playmate Murder” (June 29, 2020) The Plot Thickens “I’m Still Peter Bogdanovich - Episode 6: Dorothy” (May 26, 2020) Wes Anderson interviews Peter Bogdanovich about They All Laughed (Pt. 1, Pt. 2, Pt. 3)   THE BOGDANOVICH ARCHIVE Follow Us! Sort By: Earliest instagram.com/sortby_earliest   Drusilla Adeline bloodhauspod.com/ instagram.com/bloodhauspod/ instagram.com/sister__hyde/ sisterhydedesign.com/ letterboxd.com/sisterhyde/   Jonah letterboxd.com/jonahp97 twitter.com/jon_ahhhh   Journey letterboxd.com/journeyb instagram.com/journey_brad

    They All Laughed (1981) w/ Drusilla Adeline
  8. May 2

    BONUS: Hooper (1978) + A '70s Roundup

    Before there was Tom Cruise, before there was Cliff Booth, even before there were just a few small beers, there was HOOPER! For our 1970s Bogdanovich wrapup, we chose a movie starring two-time colleague of Bogdanovich, Burt Reynolds, and directed by legendary stuntman Hal Needham: Hooper. The film also features a Bogdanovich analogue that may or may not be Needham and Reynolds letting out years of anger against Peter. Hooper is not only a guy we would love to grab a drink with (then take an Uber home), but a love letter to stunt work in film and a character study on the physical toll that work takes.  We also riff on a level that's freakin' sublime making puns with M. Night Shyamalan’s filmography and discuss Journey's like for the new film Mother Mary, Journey's utter dislike of The Fall Guy, ideas for the new Academy Award for Best Stunt Design, and baffling box office stats. Onward to the 1980s!    Further “Reading” By Bogdanovich (2011) Picture Shows: The Life and Films of Peter Bogdanovich by Andrew Yule Picturing Peter Bogdanovich by Peter Tonguette But Enough About Me by Burt Reynolds Dick Van Dyke advertises the Hal Needham Stuntman Western Movie Set Hooper original trailer Quentin Tarantino honors Hal Needham at the 2012 Governors Awards THE BOGDANOVICH ARCHIVE Follow Us! Sort By: Earliest instagram.com/sortby_earliest Jonah letterboxd.com/jonahp97 twitter.com/jon_ahhhh Journey letterboxd.com/journeyb instagram.com/journey_brad

    BONUS: Hooper (1978) + A '70s Roundup
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Hosts Jonah and Journey dive into the complete bodies of work for some of New Hollywood’s most unique filmmakers. By contextualizing them with their peers and the industry they worked in and tracking their highs and lows beyond the heyday of the American New Wave, we hope to better frame the influence of these directors and understand the complexities of their careers. Currently exploring the filmography of Peter Bogdanovich.