Supercompanies with Greg Shove

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Every two weeks, Supercompanies brings you unfiltered conversations with the founders and CEOs actually building AI-native companies right now, no theory, no hype, just what's working and what's failing inside real organizations. Hosted by Greg Shove, CEO of Section and a tech executive since before the Y2K scare, having founded seven companies including his time at AOL. Guests have included Zapier's Wade Foster, Fanvue's Joel Morris, and Logitech's Eric Porres. Video versions of every episode, along with clips and highlights, are available on YouTube at @SupercompaniesPod.

  1. Sep 23

    Why Most AI Agents Are Quietly Bankrupt — Ilan Zerbib (Sapiom)

    Most AI agents are quietly bankrupt — Ilan Zerbib explains why giving them real spending power, not just API keys, is the missing piece of the AI economy. Ilan Zerbib, founder and CEO of Sapiom, joins Greg Shove to explain why AI agents need their own payment infrastructure — and why most agentic products today are quietly bankrupt. Ilan built his first company, Earny, running billions of automated bots to recover consumer refunds — a preview of the infrastructure problems agents face today. After Earny's acquisition and five years leading payments engineering at Shopify (Shop Pay, $100B+ in GPV), he founded Sapiom to solve a core problem: the internet's payment and API infrastructure was built to block automation, not enable it. In this conversation, Ilan and Greg cover: Why agents need spending power, not just API keys, to complete real-world tasksThe difference between the consumer agent economy and the much larger machine-to-machine economy (agents paying agents for APIs and services)How Sapiom's governance layer lets businesses give agents autonomy within controlled spending limitsWhy most AI agents today are "bankrupt" — and how cost, model routing, and failure rates determine marginBuilding as a solo founder: raising $51M across three rounds in 12 months, and running a 30-person team without traditional engineering hierarchyWhy full company automation (80-90%) doesn't mean smaller teams — it means far more ambitious scopeWhat it takes to build category-defining, super companies in the AI era If you're building AI agents, thinking about agentic infrastructure, or trying to figure out how machines will transact in the emerging AI economy, this episode is a blueprint from someone building the rails.

    Why Most AI Agents Are Quietly Bankrupt — Ilan Zerbib (Sapiom)

  2. Sep 9

    "Human in the Loop" Might Be the Worst Way to Use AI, with Vivienne Ming

    "Human in the loop" is supposed to be the safe, responsible way to use AI. Turns out it might be the worst. Theoretical neuroscientist and seven-time founder Dr. Vivienne Ming joins host Greg Shove on Supercompanies to break down what happens to human intelligence when AI can answer almost anything. In an experiment with UC Berkeley students using AI to forecast real-world events, Vivienne uncovered three distinct ways people work with AI: automators who just accept whatever the AI tells them, validators stuck in a "human in the loop" pattern that performs worse than either humans or AI alone, and a rare group she calls cyborgs - people who blend with AI so effectively you can't tell who made the decision, and who came close to matching expert-level forecasters. The traits that predicted who became a "cyborg" - curiosity, intellectual humility, and perspective-taking - raise bigger questions about how we raise kids and design schools in the AI era, which Vivienne explores in her new book, "Robot-Proof." Supercompanies is back with all new episodes! Watch the Video: https://www.youtube.com/@SupercompaniesPod

    "Human in the Loop" Might Be the Worst Way to Use AI, with Vivienne Ming

  3. Aug 26

    This CEO Was Five Months From Bankruptcy. Now He's Worth Hundreds of Millions

    Before Fanvue hit a $200 million run rate, Joel Morris and his co-founders were five months from running out of cash. Fanvue co-CEO Joel Morris joins Supercompanies host Greg Shove to explain how a teenage YouTuber who uploaded for 600 days before getting any traction built a creator monetization platform now running at a $200 million revenue run rate with 130 employees. Morris shares how Fanvue came within five months of running out of cash, the mindset that got him and his co-founders through it, and how one investor meeting and a later $22 million raise turned things around. He also talks about how Fanvue runs internally on Claude, why AI fluency is now a hiring pillar, and the company's push toward $1 billion in revenue. Mentioned in this episode: Ryan Holiday, Daily Stoic: https://dailystoic.com Connect with Joel Morris: LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/joel-morris-jmx X: https://x.com/JoelXMorris YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYz27J7fd8lK_FKKTal_I-g Fanvue: https://fanvue.com Subscribe to Supercompanies on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@SupercompaniesPod Sign up for the Supercompanies newsletter: https://www.supercompanies.ai/

    This CEO Was Five Months From Bankruptcy. Now He's Worth Hundreds of Millions

  4. Jun 17

    The Human Systems Every Transformation Needs with Brice Challamel

    Why does AI adoption hit a wall inside large organizations? Brice Challamel joins to unpack what he's learned while leading people-first transformation at orgs like Moderna, and now at OpenAI as Head of AI Strategy and Adoption. Brice shares his five components for supporting transformation, and what playfulness has to do with making AI stick. Plus: why Brice thinks the AI layoff narrative is wrong, and his case for a Nintendo as a super organization. Watch this episode on YouTube here: https://youtu.be/fA80GvnAxCk Links: Brice's LinkedIn Power of Why newsletter

    The Human Systems Every Transformation Needs with Brice Challamel

  5. Jun 4

    10 Tough Questions Every Head of AI Needs to Answer with Taylor Malmsheimer

    AI is in the workplace. As companies adopt new workflows, new conversations are happening and new concerns are arising. How do AI leaders meet the moment and work with their teams to create clarity? Taylor Malmsheimer, Section co-founder and COO, joins to share what she's learned speaking with hundreds of execs about their AI adoption efforts. Taylor walks Greg through the main types of questions that arise, and how leaders can empower their managers and employees to navigate these transformational moments. 10 Tough Questions Deck Supercompanies.ai

    10 Tough Questions Every Head of AI Needs to Answer with Taylor Malmsheimer

  6. May 21

    How A Semiconductor Veteran Is Betting On AI

    How does a legacy tech veteran pivot to AI? Sid Sheth joins to share how Claude Code changed everything at d-Matrix almost overnight, what happens when your engineers are generating more code than they can validate, and why Sid appointed his co-founder as company AI czar. Plus: why Sid tells every new grad to ditch the generalist playbook, and how he's using AI in his personal life. Links: Sid's LinkedIn d-Matrix

    How A Semiconductor Veteran Is Betting On AI

  7. May 7

    The Million-Dollar Head of AI with Michael Domanic

    After just five days on the job as Head of AI at Section, Michael Domanic joins Greg for their first one-on-one together. He shares about his experience as VP of Generative Business strategy at User Testing, and how they measured the ROI on AI adoption in the office. Plus, how many agents per employee are we likely to have in the future? Do you have questions about AI or adoption challenges at work? Drop us a line at podcast at sectionai dot com. Supercompanies is on YouTube too: youtube.com/@supercompaniespod. Michael's website Michael's LinkedIn

    The Million-Dollar Head of AI with Michael Domanic

  8. Apr 23

    Eric Porres wants to make you chief of staff

    How does a 45-year-old hardware company like Logitech go all-in on AI? Eric Porres, Chief AI Officer at Logitech, has been inside that transformation from the start. After his company was acquired, he personally trained over 800 employees and built the playbook that's now scaling across a 7,000-person global organization. Greg and Eric go deep on what it actually takes to move a large incumbent from AI-curious to AI-fluent: why AI labs and centers of excellence are a trap, why you can't outsource transformation to consultants, and how AI champions — not headcount — are the real force multiplier. Eric says the most valuable employees will build the best team of AI primes to work for them. Hear how he approaches codifying your mental models and deploying them as agents. Links: Eric's Website Eric's LinkedIn Logitech

    Eric Porres wants to make you chief of staff
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Every two weeks, Supercompanies brings you unfiltered conversations with the founders and CEOs actually building AI-native companies right now, no theory, no hype, just what's working and what's failing inside real organizations. Hosted by Greg Shove, CEO of Section and a tech executive since before the Y2K scare, having founded seven companies including his time at AOL. Guests have included Zapier's Wade Foster, Fanvue's Joel Morris, and Logitech's Eric Porres. Video versions of every episode, along with clips and highlights, are available on YouTube at @SupercompaniesPod.

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