Hope Cake

Jo Hobbis

A slice of inspiration, a sprinkle of wisdom, and real conversation about kids and faith. Join Jo Hobbis as she chats with leading voices in children's ministry about issues that really matter. Hope Cake is inspired by Hebrews 10:24 "Let us consider how we can stir up one another to love. Let us help one another to do good works."

  1. Kids Ministry Burnout: How to Stay Called Without Running on Empty | Building Thriving Kids Ministry (Part 5 of 5)

    May 12

    Kids Ministry Burnout: How to Stay Called Without Running on Empty | Building Thriving Kids Ministry (Part 5 of 5)

    Burnout in kids ministry is real. Many leaders only last a few years before the weight of it all becomes too much. So how do you stay in ministry for the long haul without running on empty? In this final episode of Building Thriving Kids Ministry, Jo Hobbis sits down with Hannah Aske from TenFour Ministries to talk honestly about burnout, calling, and what it really takes to keep going in children’s ministry. Hannah shares openly about the seasons when she felt like quitting (including a time when she was so exhausted she was crying most weeks). But she also shares the lessons God has taught her along the way about rest, community, and remembering why you started in the first place. If you’ve ever felt overwhelmed, stretched too thin, or wondered how long you can keep doing this work, this conversation will help you breathe again. In this episode you’ll discover: Why knowing your God-given “why” is essential for staying in kids ministryThe difference between physical rest and spiritual rest (and why both matter)How trying to carry everything yourself leads to burnoutWhy planned retreat days and time with God aren’t luxuries, they’re essentialHow mentors, friends, and accountability can sustain you in ministryThe freeing truth that God cares more about your heart than your productivityHannah also shares the powerful reminder that we can’t pour into children and families if we’re running on empty ourselves. Before we lead others, we need to be filled. If you’re a kids ministry leader who wants to build something that lasts, this episode is for you. Support the show Never miss an episode - follow Hope Cake on socials @hopecakepod

    45 min
  2. Why Kids Ministry Leaders Burn Out (And How to Find Joy Again) | Building Thriving Kids Ministry (Part 4 of 5)

    May 4

    Why Kids Ministry Leaders Burn Out (And How to Find Joy Again) | Building Thriving Kids Ministry (Part 4 of 5)

    Children’s ministry can be joyful, creative, and deeply meaningful… but it can also be exhausting. In this honest conversation, Jo Hobbis sits down with Hannah Aske from TenFour Ministries to talk about the challenges many kids ministry leaders face but don’t always say out loud. Why do so many children’s pastors burn out after just a few years? Why can ministry feel harder than people expect? And how do you keep your joy when the pressure, expectations, and volunteer shortages start piling up? Jo and Hannah unpack the hidden realities of kids ministry — from the blurred lines between calling and job, to the struggle of measuring spiritual impact, to the constant challenge of recruiting and supporting volunteers. Along the way, you’ll discover practical strategies, surprising mindset shifts, and encouragement for anyone who has ever felt overwhelmed in ministry. In this episode you’ll discover:  Why many kids ministry leaders burn out after just a few years  The hidden pressures that make children’s ministry harder than it looks  Why spiritual growth in kids is so hard to measure (and why that’s okay)  Practical ways to recruit and encourage volunteers  A mindset shift that helps leaders rediscover joy in their callingIf you’ve ever wondered "Am I the only one finding this hard?” this episode will remind you that you’re not alone and help you rediscover the joy of your calling. You’ll come away feeling seen, encouraged, and better equipped to lead kids and families with hope. Support the show Never miss an episode - follow Hope Cake on socials @hopecakepod

    46 min
  3. Reaching Children & Families Today | Building Thriving Kids Ministry (Part 3 of 5)

    Apr 26

    Reaching Children & Families Today | Building Thriving Kids Ministry (Part 3 of 5)

    Many churches long to see children and families come to faith — but what happens when they’re simply not walking through the doors on Sunday? In this episode, Jo Hobbis talks with Hannah Aske from TenFour Ministries about why outreach to children and families matters more than ever — and why it doesn’t have to be complicated, expensive, or intimidating. Hannah shares powerful stories from working with children in schools and communities, revealing the deep need many children carry today — from anxiety to isolation — and why the church must be present where they are. Together they explore:  Why outreach is central to the Great Commission  The fears that often hold churches back from starting  How simple midweek kids’ clubs can reach families in your community  Why confidence (in ourselves and in God) is often the biggest barrier  How to create pathways from community activities to the gospel Hannah also shares practical insights from launching outreach ministries, working with schools, and helping churches discover what they can do — even with limited people, budget, or time. If you're a church leader, children's worker, or volunteer wondering how to connect with families beyond Sunday, this conversation will inspire you to take the first step. Because reaching the next generation often begins with a simple decision: Go where they are. Support the show Never miss an episode - follow Hope Cake on socials @hopecakepod

    42 min
  4. Why Kids Ministry Matters | Building Thriving Kids Ministry (Part 1 of 5)

    Apr 18

    Why Kids Ministry Matters | Building Thriving Kids Ministry (Part 1 of 5)

    What if the future of the Church depends on how we see children today? In this first episode of Building Thriving Kids Ministry, Jo Hobbis sits down with Hannah Aske, founder of TenFour Ministries, to talk about a challenge many churches are quietly facing: where have all the children gone—and what can we do about it? Hannah shares the story behind TenFour Ministries and the heart that led her to launch a movement focused on outreach children’s ministry. From seeing the realities facing children in schools and communities, to recognising the gap in how churches prioritise kids, she asks a bold question: What if children’s ministry isn’t optional—but essential to the mission of the Church? You’ll hear:  Why outreach to children is often missing from church strategy  The surprising story of how Hannah started leading kids ministry at just 16  How churches can move beyond “just running a programme”  Why defining your “win” changes everything about how you lead  The powerful role young leaders can play in building a thriving ministry If you’ve ever felt the weight of leading children’s ministry—or wondered how churches can reach the next generation more effectively—this conversation will challenge and encourage you. Because building a thriving kids ministry doesn’t happen by accident. Support the show Never miss an episode - follow Hope Cake on socials @hopecakepod

    37 min

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A slice of inspiration, a sprinkle of wisdom, and real conversation about kids and faith. Join Jo Hobbis as she chats with leading voices in children's ministry about issues that really matter. Hope Cake is inspired by Hebrews 10:24 "Let us consider how we can stir up one another to love. Let us help one another to do good works."