Bizora Brews

Adam Tahir

Welcome to Bizora Brews, the podcast where tax professionals share the stories behind their careers. Guests open up about their early beginnings, the turning points that defined their expertise, the challenges they’ve overcome, and the wins they’re proud of. You’ll hear practical advice for young accountants, insights on how technology is reshaping tax work, and thoughtful perspectives on the future of the industry. It’s real conversation, real experience, and real guidance for the modern tax professional.

  1. Oct 26

    Functioning in Chaos, Olga Brochstein

    What happens when an information systems graduate gets handed a sales tax audit and a tax engine implementation before she has ever filed a return? Olga leads indirect tax at Avanos Medical, a medical device company recently acquired by private equity. She studied management information systems at Wayne State University and fell into sales tax when a small Detroit company she interned at got hit with a Michigan assessment. Her path since then runs through Citrix, Ryder, RockTenn during its WestRock merger years, and Workday. She treated each stop as a deliberate step in a field with no formal degree behind it. Together they explore how tax engines like Vertex depend entirely on the data your ERP feeds them, why use tax often creates more audit exposure than exemption certificates, and how AI first entrants are pushing indirect tax professionals toward advisory work while states expand sales tax on SaaS and digital products. Olga also explains why she left a sales tax manager title at WestRock and took a pay cut to join Avanos as it spun off from Kimberly Clark. It meant building the sales tax function from scratch, through an SAP to S/4HANA migration and a Vertex upgrade, and years later that process held up under private equity due diligence. She closes with an audit that ended in a minimal assessment and a thank you email from the auditor. Tune in for a conversation about building a sales tax function that survives audits and acquisitions.

  2. Oct 17

    The Power of Showing Up, Dean Quiambao of Armanino and Stephen Hedlund of Rillet

    What does it take for an established accounting firm to put its name behind an AI native ERP that had no money, no clients, and a very big pitch? This is the first live taping of Bizora Brews, recorded in front of an audience at Armanino’s San Francisco office during SF Tech Week. Adam is joined by two returning guests. Dean Quiambao is a Partner and the Northern California Market Leader at Armanino, where he spent his first twelve years in audit. Stephen Hedlund is Head of Finance at Rillet, the AI native ERP that recently reached unicorn status. Their partnership started at an a16z dinner in New York that both of them almost skipped. Together they explore how Armanino became Rillet’s first accounting firm partner, why the old line that nobody gets fired for buying NetSuite is starting to reverse, and what changes when an ERP has to be built for agents as well as people. They also get into continuous close, what a year end audit could look like when both sides are running agents, and how Rillet is thinking about pricing AI work as token costs shift. Dean shares the moment he overheard a Rillet prospect at a conference say she would switch if her accounting firm signed off, and the lunch where an Armanino colleague who had implemented NetSuite at a San Francisco unicorn put the Rillet team through a technical grilling. The episode closes with questions from the live audience on token economics, data privacy, and customization. Tune in for a conversation about how AI native finance tools earn trust with the firms CFOs already rely on.

  3. Oct 5

    The Great Equalizer - Michael Stephano (Stephano Slack)

    What does it take to turn a two person practice with a few hundred thousand dollars of business into a $35 million firm, when nothing in your accounting training taught you how to run a business? Michael Stephano is the Managing Partner of Stephano Slack, a top 200 CPA firm based in Wayne, Pennsylvania with roughly 130 people. A Villanova graduate and the son of a CPA, Michael made manager at Rainer and Co and partner at Carrow Doyle before leaving in 2004 to start his own practice with Blake Chapman. His career is a study in what happens when a strong technician decides to become a business owner. Together they explore the revenue thresholds where a firm owner has to change how they spend their time, from $1 million to $5 million and beyond. They walk through how Stephano Slack grew through acquisitions, why culture comes before price in every deal, and why Michael has walked away from deals after talking with roughly 250 firm owners. They also discuss private equity's push into the top 200, and why Michael expects technology to cut the people needed to double the firm by about half. Michael's first acquisition came when his mentor, Jerry Geisel, called to ask if he would buy his practice. That deal, and the Ken Slack acquisition that followed, were financed through seller payouts of 20% a year for five years and a bank line of credit, a model the firm used for 25 years. Tune in for a conversation about working on the business instead of in it, and why Michael calls public accounting the great equalizer.

  4. Oct 3

    Fail Differently - Bailey Spell (LedgerUp)

    What happens when a software engineer who hated writing billing code ends up building the AI agent that does it for everyone else? Bailey Spell is the cofounder of LedgerUp, a Y Combinator backed company automating billing, accounts receivable, and revenue workflows through its AI agent, Ari. Before LedgerUp, Bailey was a software engineer at Microsoft, where he helped take Viva Learning from zero to one. He then moved to San Francisco to join Respell, a workflow automation startup later acquired by Salesforce. His path runs from big tech, to a three person engineering team, to building inside the accounting stack with no accounting background. Together they explore why LedgerUp started as an AI bookkeeping firm doing the work by hand before automating it, how contract heavy voice AI companies like Bland and Happy Robot became its core customers, and why the billing inbox holds the context that actually speeds up collections. Bailey shares the August 2024 call with a CFO who brushed off bill amortization and said revenue recognition was the biggest pain in his business, the moment that pointed LedgerUp toward contract to cash. He also recalls the advice a YC partner gave the team: so many AI bookkeeping companies had already been funded that if LedgerUp failed, it should fail differently. Tune in for a conversation about building AI for billing, where a single invoice can touch twelve systems and the agent cannot be wrong.

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Welcome to Bizora Brews, the podcast where tax professionals share the stories behind their careers. Guests open up about their early beginnings, the turning points that defined their expertise, the challenges they’ve overcome, and the wins they’re proud of. You’ll hear practical advice for young accountants, insights on how technology is reshaping tax work, and thoughtful perspectives on the future of the industry. It’s real conversation, real experience, and real guidance for the modern tax professional.