The ND Gap

Jordan Robertson

Naturopathic medicine is at a crossroads. The potential of our profession has never been greater, and yet the challenges we face threaten our future. The ND Gap is the podcast that tackles that space in between: the gap between where naturopathic medicine is today, and where it needs to go to survive, thrive, and earn legitimacy in modern healthcare. Hosted by Jordan Robertson, ND: clinician, researcher, and founder of The Confident Clinician Club, this show supports your business growth, gives clinical insights and highlights stars in our community.

  1. 1d ago

    Reimagining Naturopathic Doctors in Primary Care with Dr. Hannah Gordon

    In this episode of The ND Gap, Jordan Robertson sits down with Dr. Hannah Gordon, ND, Medical Director and leader within the Naturopathy Academy of Primary Care Physicians (NAPCP), to explore where naturopathic medicine fits in the future of primary care. Together, they unpack why evidence-informed and evidence-based medicine shouldn't be viewed as opposing ideas, why collaboration will move the profession forward, and how naturopathic doctors can confidently take their place alongside other healthcare providers. They also discuss therapeutic order, patient autonomy, public health, standards of care, expanding scope, and why building relationships across healthcare disciplines is essential if we want better outcomes for patients. Whether you're a student, new graduate, or experienced clinician, this conversation will challenge you to think differently about what it means to practice modern naturopathic medicine. Explore the NAPCP ---- Welcome back to The ND Gap, the podcast about the space between where naturopathic medicine is today and where it needs to go. Hosted by Dr. Jordan Robertson, founder of The Confident Clinician, this show is about legitimizing, strengthening, and ultimately saving  Each week, The ND Gap will close the distance with four pillars: Clinical insights grounded in evidence Business strategies for sustainable practice Personal leadership for growth and resilience The voices of NDs who are reshaping what this profession can be Whether you’re a brand-new graduate or a seasoned clinician, this is your space to find strategies you can use right away, inspiration from your peers, and a bigger vision for the future of naturopathic medicine. Because if we want to secure the future of our profession, we can’t wait for it to happen; we have to build it together. When you're ready to join our clinician community, you can learn more at ⁠www.confidentclinicianclub.com  ---- Dr. Jordan Robertson is a leader in naturopathic and integrative medicine. She is dedicated to evidence-based healthcare and founded The Confident Clinician, which empowers practitioners with up-to-date research and practical tools. With over 15 years in clinical practice and experience teaching at McMaster University’s Health Sciences program, she bridges the gap between research and real-world application. ⁠Follow Dr. Jordan on Instagram

  2. Jul 16

    Path to Practice: Creating a Practice That Fits You

    How did you decide how long your patient appointments should be? If the answer is "because that's what everyone else does," this episode is for you. In this solo episode of The ND Gap, Jordan Robertson challenges one of the most overlooked decisions practitioners make: appointment length. But this conversation is about much more than your calendar. It's about building a practice intentionally instead of inheriting someone else's model. Jordan explores why longer appointments often lead to better patient outcomes, stronger retention, fewer follow-up questions, and a more sustainable practice for both clinicians and patients. Along the way, she shares how changing one seemingly simple decision transformed the way she practiced medicine. This episode also offers a preview of Path to Practice, the new program designed to help new graduates and early-career clinicians build practices with intention, confidence, and purpose instead of relying on trial and error. Register for Path to Practice NOW ---- Welcome back to The ND Gap, the podcast about the space between where naturopathic medicine is today and where it needs to go. Hosted by Dr. Jordan Robertson, founder of The Confident Clinician, this show is about legitimizing, strengthening, and ultimately saving  Each week, The ND Gap will close the distance with four pillars: Clinical insights grounded in evidence Business strategies for sustainable practice Personal leadership for growth and resilience The voices of NDs who are reshaping what this profession can be Whether you’re a brand-new graduate or a seasoned clinician, this is your space to find strategies you can use right away, inspiration from your peers, and a bigger vision for the future of naturopathic medicine. Because if we want to secure the future of our profession, we can’t wait for it to happen; we have to build it together. When you're ready to join our clinician community, you can learn more at ⁠www.confidentclinicianclub.com  ---- Dr. Jordan Robertson is a leader in naturopathic and integrative medicine. She is dedicated to evidence-based healthcare and founded The Confident Clinician, which empowers practitioners with up-to-date research and practical tools. With over 15 years in clinical practice and experience teaching at McMaster University’s Health Sciences program, she bridges the gap between research and real-world application. ⁠Follow Dr. Jordan on Instagram

  3. Jul 9

    Keeping the Heart in Evidence-Based Medicine with Dr. Keila Rosener

    Can you practice evidence-based medicine without losing the heart of naturopathic care? In this episode of The ND Gap, Jordan sits down with Dr. Keila Roesner to explore what it really means to build a practice and a life that reflects your values. Together, they discuss intentional living, community-based care, women's health, raising a family while running a practice, and why evidence-based medicine doesn't have to come at the expense of compassion or connection. Dr. Roesner shares how she's intentionally designed her home-based practice, why slowing down often leads to better care, and how understanding the person in front of you remains one of the most powerful tools in medicine. It's a conversation about choosing your own path, embracing your individuality as a clinician, and remembering why many of us chose naturopathic medicine in the first place. Connect with Dr. Keila on Instagram  ---- Welcome back to The ND Gap, the podcast about the space between where naturopathic medicine is today and where it needs to go. Hosted by Dr. Jordan Robertson, founder of The Confident Clinician, this show is about legitimizing, strengthening, and ultimately saving  Each week, The ND Gap will close the distance with four pillars: Clinical insights grounded in evidence Business strategies for sustainable practice Personal leadership for growth and resilience The voices of NDs who are reshaping what this profession can be Whether you’re a brand-new graduate or a seasoned clinician, this is your space to find strategies you can use right away, inspiration from your peers, and a bigger vision for the future of naturopathic medicine. Because if we want to secure the future of our profession, we can’t wait for it to happen; we have to build it together. When you're ready to join our clinician community, you can learn more at ⁠www.confidentclinicianclub.com  ---- Dr. Jordan Robertson is a leader in naturopathic and integrative medicine. She is dedicated to evidence-based healthcare and founded The Confident Clinician, which empowers practitioners with up-to-date research and practical tools. With over 15 years in clinical practice and experience teaching at McMaster University’s Health Sciences program, she bridges the gap between research and real-world application. ⁠Follow Dr. Jordan on Instagram

  4. Jul 2

    Build Your Practice on Purpose, Not by Accident

    What if one conversation could save you years of trial and error? In this solo episode of The ND Gap, Dr. Jordan Robertson reflects on the biggest mistakes she made during her first years in practice and the lessons that completely changed how she built a successful clinic. From undercharging and copying other practitioners to appointment structure, referral marketing, policies, and practice systems, Jordan shares the decisions that cost her both time and money, and how she'd do things differently today. She also introduces Path to Practice, a new program designed to help recent graduates build intentional, financially sustainable practices without spending years learning everything through experience. Whether you're a new grad or years into practice, this episode is full of practical insights that can help you think differently about building a business that lasts. Join the Path to Practice waitlist now and save $75 off the registration fee. ---- Welcome back to The ND Gap, the podcast about the space between where naturopathic medicine is today and where it needs to go. Hosted by Dr. Jordan Robertson, founder of The Confident Clinician, this show is about legitimizing, strengthening, and ultimately saving  Each week, The ND Gap will close the distance with four pillars: Clinical insights grounded in evidence Business strategies for sustainable practice Personal leadership for growth and resilience The voices of NDs who are reshaping what this profession can be Whether you’re a brand-new graduate or a seasoned clinician, this is your space to find strategies you can use right away, inspiration from your peers, and a bigger vision for the future of naturopathic medicine. Because if we want to secure the future of our profession, we can’t wait for it to happen; we have to build it together. When you're ready to join our clinician community, you can learn more at ⁠www.confidentclinicianclub.com  ---- Dr. Jordan Robertson is a leader in naturopathic and integrative medicine. She is dedicated to evidence-based healthcare and founded The Confident Clinician, which empowers practitioners with up-to-date research and practical tools. With over 15 years in clinical practice and experience teaching at McMaster University’s Health Sciences program, she bridges the gap between research and real-world application. ⁠Follow Dr. Jordan on Instagram

  5. Jun 25

    Why Great Clinicians Need to Be Online With Dr. Lauren Hungler-Peters

    In this episode of The ND Gap, Jordan sits down with Dr. Lauren Hungler-Peters to talk about one of the biggest barriers practitioners face: social media. Together, they unpack why consistency matters more than perfection, how to build trust before a patient ever books an appointment, and why your unique perspective matters even when everyone seems to be talking about the same topics.  Lauren shares her journey from naturopathic practice to running a social media agency for healthcare professionals, along with practical advice on content creation, personal branding, authenticity, AI, and finding your voice online. They also explore the mindset challenges that keep clinicians stuck, from comparison and perfectionism to unrealistic expectations around growth.  If you've ever thought, "I should be posting more," this episode is for you. ---- Lauren is a former naturopathic doctor turned founder of Healthy AF* Co. She spent 14 years in clinical practice before realizing the part she loved most wasn't the protocols. It was the strategy, the branding, the backend puzzle of making everything connect. Somewhere between patient care and launching her first landing page in 2014, the second career started writing itself. These days she runs a boutique marketing agency for NDs and wellness practitioners, where she speaks fluent practitioner and fluent content strategy. Helping them turn clinical brilliance into authority-driven content that actually converts, without the dancing, the trending audio, or the Canva chaos. She still thinks like a clinician. She just builds brands now instead of treatment plans. Lauren lives on an apple orchard in Ontario with her husband, two tiny humans, and a not-so-chill dog named Oscar. Connect with Lauren on Instagram  Explore Lauren’s Website ---- Welcome back to The ND Gap, the podcast about the space between where naturopathic medicine is today and where it needs to go. Hosted by Dr. Jordan Robertson, founder of The Confident Clinician, this show is about legitimizing, strengthening, and ultimately saving  Each week, The ND Gap will close the distance with four pillars: Clinical insights grounded in evidence Business strategies for sustainable practice Personal leadership for growth and resilience The voices of NDs who are reshaping what this profession can be Whether you’re a brand-new graduate or a seasoned clinician, this is your space to find strategies you can use right away, inspiration from your peers, and a bigger vision for the future of naturopathic medicine. Because if we want to secure the future of our profession, we can’t wait for it to happen; we have to build it together. When you're ready to join our clinician community, you can learn more at ⁠www.confidentclinicianclub.com ---- Dr. Jordan Robertson is a leader in naturopathic and integrative medicine. She is dedicated to evidence-based healthcare and founded The Confident Clinician, which empowers practitioners with up-to-date research and practical tools. With over 15 years in clinical practice and experience teaching at McMaster University’s Health Sciences program, she bridges the gap between research and real-world application. ⁠Follow Dr. Jordan on Instagram

  6. Jun 18

    The Missing Ingredient in Great Clinical Care with Dr. Jen Green

    In this episode of The ND Gap, Dr. Jordan Robertson sits down with Dr. Jen Green, one of North America's leading naturopathic oncology experts, for a conversation that goes far beyond cancer care. Together, they explore the gaps that exist in modern healthcare, the role naturopathic doctors play in filling those gaps, and why therapeutic presence remains one of the most powerful tools clinicians have. Dr. Jen shares her journey from private practice to building integrative oncology programs within conventional cancer centers, while reflecting on the lessons she's learned supporting patients through some of the most challenging moments of their lives. The conversation dives into individualized care, standards of care, evidence-based medicine, mentorship, communication skills, and the delicate balance between science and compassion. Connect with Dr. Jen: Website KNOW Oncology KNOW Oncology Newsletter ---- Welcome back to The ND Gap, the podcast about the space between where naturopathic medicine is today and where it needs to go. Hosted by Dr. Jordan Robertson, founder of The Confident Clinician, this show is about legitimizing, strengthening, and ultimately saving  Each week, The ND Gap will close the distance with four pillars: Clinical insights grounded in evidence Business strategies for sustainable practice Personal leadership for growth and resilience The voices of NDs who are reshaping what this profession can be Whether you’re a brand-new graduate or a seasoned clinician, this is your space to find strategies you can use right away, inspiration from your peers, and a bigger vision for the future of naturopathic medicine. Because if we want to secure the future of our profession, we can’t wait for it to happen; we have to build it together. When you're ready to join our clinician community, you can learn more at ⁠www.confidentclinicianclub.com  ---- Dr. Jordan Robertson is a leader in naturopathic and integrative medicine. She is dedicated to evidence-based healthcare and founded The Confident Clinician, which empowers practitioners with up-to-date research and practical tools. With over 15 years in clinical practice and experience teaching at McMaster University’s Health Sciences program, she bridges the gap between research and real-world application. ⁠Follow Dr. Jordan on Instagram

  7. Jun 4

    Building Confidence Faster as a New ND with Dr. Meagan McLaren

    In this episode of The ND Gap, Dr. Jordan Robertson sits down with Dr. Meagan McLaren, ND, to talk about mentorship, mindset, community, and the decisions that helped shape her first years in practice. Meagan shares her journey from graduation into associateship, the value of surrounding herself with experienced clinicians, and why she intentionally sought out opportunities to learn in rooms where she wasn't the most experienced person. Together, they explore the impact of mentorship, the importance of choosing the right clinic environment, and how collaboration can accelerate growth far beyond what clinicians can achieve on their own. This is a conversation about growth, leadership, and the power of putting yourself in spaces that challenge you to become the clinician you want to be. ---- Dr. Meagan McLaren is a naturopathic doctor with a focus in women's health and fertility.Follow Dr. Meagan on Instagram ---- Welcome back to The ND Gap, the podcast about the space between where naturopathic medicine is today and where it needs to go. Hosted by Dr. Jordan Robertson, founder of The Confident Clinician, this show is about legitimizing, strengthening, and ultimately saving  Each week, The ND Gap will close the distance with four pillars: Clinical insights grounded in evidence Business strategies for sustainable practice Personal leadership for growth and resilience The voices of NDs who are reshaping what this profession can be Whether you’re a brand-new graduate or a seasoned clinician, this is your space to find strategies you can use right away, inspiration from your peers, and a bigger vision for the future of naturopathic medicine. Because if we want to secure the future of our profession, we can’t wait for it to happen; we have to build it together. When you're ready to join our clinician community, you can learn more at ⁠www.confidentclinicianclub.com  ---- Dr. Jordan Robertson is a leader in naturopathic and integrative medicine. She is dedicated to evidence-based healthcare and founded The Confident Clinician, which empowers practitioners with up-to-date research and practical tools. With over 15 years in clinical practice and experience teaching at McMaster University’s Health Sciences program, she bridges the gap between research and real-world application. ⁠Follow Dr. Jordan on Instagram

  8. May 14

    How to Embody the Busy Practitioner Persona in Practice

    In this episode of The ND Gap, Dr. Jordan Robertson breaks down the habits, behaviours, and mindset shifts required to embody the “busy practitioner” persona before your schedule is actually full. She explores the gap between where clinicians are now and the version of themselves they say they want to become, and why waiting until you’re busy to create boundaries, systems, and structure is often the very thing keeping you stuck. Jordan walks through the practical behaviours that busy clinicians adopt early: arriving prepared, ending visits on time, batching administrative work, delegating tasks, and maintaining strong boundaries around their schedule. This episode is a conversation about identity, self-worth, and the subtle ways clinicians unintentionally repel growth by continuing to behave like they “have time.” ---- Welcome back to The ND Gap, the podcast about the space between where naturopathic medicine is today and where it needs to go. Hosted by Dr. Jordan Robertson, founder of The Confident Clinician, this show is about legitimizing, strengthening, and ultimately saving  Each week, The ND Gap will close the distance with four pillars: Clinical insights grounded in evidence Business strategies for sustainable practice Personal leadership for growth and resilience The voices of NDs who are reshaping what this profession can be Whether you’re a brand-new graduate or a seasoned clinician, this is your space to find strategies you can use right away, inspiration from your peers, and a bigger vision for the future of naturopathic medicine. Because if we want to secure the future of our profession, we can’t wait for it to happen; we have to build it together. When you're ready to join our clinician community, you can learn more at ⁠www.confidentclinicianclub.com  Book a demo with our team here ---- Dr. Jordan Robertson is a leader in naturopathic and integrative medicine. She is dedicated to evidence-based healthcare and founded The Confident Clinician, which empowers practitioners with up-to-date research and practical tools. With over 15 years in clinical practice and experience teaching at McMaster University’s Health Sciences program, she bridges the gap between research and real-world application. ⁠Follow Dr. Jordan on Instagram

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Naturopathic medicine is at a crossroads. The potential of our profession has never been greater, and yet the challenges we face threaten our future. The ND Gap is the podcast that tackles that space in between: the gap between where naturopathic medicine is today, and where it needs to go to survive, thrive, and earn legitimacy in modern healthcare. Hosted by Jordan Robertson, ND: clinician, researcher, and founder of The Confident Clinician Club, this show supports your business growth, gives clinical insights and highlights stars in our community.

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