The Human Loop Podcast

Ben Stocken

The Human Loop explores what happens at the intersection of human performance and emerging technology. Each episode unpacks how modern leaders can operate at their best while AI transforms the way we work. Powered by Atherio | Lead with Clarity

  1. Indecision Is Worse Than Being Wrong: Saeed Bor

    Jun 3

    Indecision Is Worse Than Being Wrong: Saeed Bor

    What happens when a leader discovers someone is crossing a line and has five days before they're publicly recognized for their work? In this episode of The Human Loop Podcast, Saeed Bor, founder of Embedded Ops and 15-year recruitment veteran, takes on a live Decision Sprint that tests his values, speed, and leadership instincts under pressure. Plus, Saeed shares a real-world example of a leader handling a line-crossing moment with speed and conviction, and we unpack what it means to lead as a Catalyst. If you're building teams, managing change, or navigating tough calls as a founder or operator, this episode is packed with honest insights you can apply today. Chapters 00:00 Meet Saeed — Embedded Ops & 15 Years in Recruitment 03:37 The Lonely Founder Myth 05:00 Building Your Network as a Business Strategy 06:27 Why Human Connection Still Wins in an AI World 09:12 Getting Buy-In: Understanding What People Actually Want 11:30 Everyone's Selfish — And That's Okay 14:10 The Decision Sprint Begins 18:23 The Trust Card: Someone's Crossing a Line 19:16 Saeed's Answer — Values, Speed & Accountability 23:00 Can a Line Ever Be Un-Crossed? 25:27 A Real-World Example of Leaders Acting Fast 27:44 What If You're the Outside Consultant? 29:59 Indecision Is Worse Than a Wrong Decision 31:33 The Score Reveal & Leaderboard 32:00 Breaking Down the Scorecard 34:37 The Catalyst Archetype — What It Means to Lead This Way Powered By Atherio, Real-time leadership wisdom for every manager - https://www.getatherio.com Connect with The host - Ben Stocken: https://www.linkedin.com/in/benstocken

    31 min
  2. May 27

    The 48-hour Leadership Rule for Solving Problems Fast: Zac & Jack

    What happens when a founder is forced to make a high-stakes leadership decision in real time? In this episode of The Human Loop Podcast, Zach and Jack from We Have A Meeting take on a live leadership challenge designed to test strategic thinking, communication, and decision-making under pressure. The conversation dives into: Why motivation goes beyond money Building high-performing teams through ownership The “48-hour rule” for solving problems fast How founders stay calm when competitors make aggressive moves Why asking better questions creates stronger leaders Plus, Jack is put through a live “Decision Sprint” and scored on his leadership response in real time. If you’re a founder, leader, operator, or building a team, this episode is packed with practical leadership insights you can apply immediately. Chapters Chapters 00:00:00 Intro & Meet the Founders 00:00:49 Leadership Lessons Learned in 5 Years 00:02:49 Working Apart as Co-Founders 00:04:38 The Leadership Decision Sprint Begins 00:07:25 The Competitor Crisis Scenario 00:08:57 Jack’s Live Leadership Response 00:13:40 Staying Calm Under Pressure 00:14:17 Real Story: Competitor Bought Their Brand Search Term 00:16:46 The Power of the “Pre-Mortem” 00:18:31 The “One Big Thing” Leadership System 00:19:14 The 48-Hour Rule Explained 00:22:21 The 3 Questions Every Employee Must Answer 00:24:21 Leadership Score Revealed 00:25:41 Where the Leadership Response Fell Short 00:27:24 Communication vs Clarity in Leadership 00:28:30 Final Thoughts & Future Challenge Check out "We Have a Meeting" with Zac & Jack: https://www.wehaveameeting.com Powered By Atherio, Real-time leadership wisdom for every manager -https://www.getatherio.com Connect with The host - Ben Stocken: https://www.linkedin.com/in/benstocken

    29 min
  3. May 13

    AI Adoption Is Actually a Leadership Problem: Weekly Loop

    This week on The Human Loop, I'll be sharing key insights from my day at Aibl Live, a leadership and AI event in London attended by CEOs, founders, and business leaders across the UK. What started as a conversation about AI quickly became a conversation about leadership, culture, trust, and the future of work. I break down the “three cliffs” preventing businesses from seeing real ROI from AI adoption: strategic clarity, divisional alignment, and individual capability. Plus, insights from leaders at WPP, Ipsos, and The Happiness Index on change fatigue, psychological safety, middle management, and why junior talent may be most at risk in the AI decade. Check out Aibl here - https://live.aiblmedia.com/e/london26 Chapters Chapters 00:01:41 Why AI conversations are really about leadership 00:03:25 The “Three Cliffs” of AI adoption 00:03:54 Cliff #1: Strategic clarity & leadership alignment 00:04:47 Cliff #2: Divisional alignment & ROI 00:05:38 Cliff #3: Individual capability vs tool access 00:07:59 The hidden inequality risk in AI adoption 00:08:26 Change fatigue and leadership in modern business 00:09:14 Why morale and disengagement are rising 00:09:41 Young people reporting the lowest workplace happiness 00:10:08 The junior talent crisis AI may create 00:10:31 Ben’s roundtable: Building a culture that can handle the truth 00:13:14 Five key leadership takeaways from the event 00:16:33 What the winning companies of the AI decade will do differently 00:17:31 Final thoughts & outro Powered By Atherio, Real-time leadership wisdom for every manager - https://www.getatherio.com Connect with The host - Ben Stocken: https://www.linkedin.com/in/benstocken

    18 min
  4. Apr 22

    How AI Is Impacting Entrepreneurs Right Now: Dodge Woodall

    In this episode, I sit down with Dodge Woodall, a serial entrepreneur and we explore the tension between the rapid rise of AI and the growing loss of human connection. We break down how AI is being used in real life and business, the difference between tools like ChatGPT and Claude, and why understanding this technology is becoming essential to stay relevant. Finally, we unpack the truth about building a business today. Why it’s harder than ever, what’s changing for the next generation, and why entrepreneurship is still one of the most challenging (and rewarding) paths you can take. Chapters: Chapters 00:00:00 Intro 00:01:00 How Dodge Uses AI (ChatGPT vs Real Life) 00:02:00 The Rise of a “Fake” World Online 00:03:00 Why Human Connection Is Disappearing 00:04:30 Trust, Personal Brand & Authenticity 00:07:00 Why Curiosity Builds Real Relationships 00:09:00 Fear of Judgment & Starting a Business 00:11:00 ChatGPT vs Claude 00:15:00 AI Is Accelerating Faster Than We Think 00:16:30 Remote Work vs Real Human Interaction 00:18:30 Will AI Replace Entry-Level Jobs? 00:20:00 Why Business Is So Hard Right Now 00:22:00 The Reality of Hiring & Costs in 2026 00:24:00 Should You Build a Business in the UK? 00:25:00 The Skills That Will Matter in the Future 00:28:30 AI in Events vs Real Human Experience 00:31:00 Social Media, Phones & Lost Moments 00:33:30 The Mental Health Impact of Social Media 00:35:00 Why He Invested in a Mental Health App 00:37:00 Entrepreneurship Is an Extreme Sport 00:40:00 Why People Don’t Trust Anything Anymore 00:41:30 The Lonely Chapter of Building a Business 00:42:30 The Truth About Money in Business 00:44:00 Why Personal Brand Matters More Than Ever 00:45:00 Final Thoughts Connect with Dodge - https://www.linkedin.com/in/dodgewoodall Check out JAAQ - https://jaaq.app Powered By Atherio, Real-time leadership wisdom for every manager - https://www.getatherio.com Connect with The host - Ben Stocken :https://www.linkedin.com/in/benstocken

    45 min

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The Human Loop explores what happens at the intersection of human performance and emerging technology. Each episode unpacks how modern leaders can operate at their best while AI transforms the way we work. Powered by Atherio | Lead with Clarity