Made of Clay

@madeofclay247

Welcome to Made of Clay, a podcast by Gabby, founder of Made of Clay Clothing. We bridge the gap between looking good and doing good, exploring what it means to be a "clay jar" in a gold-plated world. Join us for the messy behind-the-scenes of a mission-driven brand, stories from Guatemala, and raw talks on 2 Corinthians 4:7.

  1. Jul 26

    027: God Is SO Much More Than a Spot on Your Calendar

    "God is not a spot on your calendar. He is the paper on which the calendar is written." Jay Owen started his agency at 17 with $5,500 in his first year. More than two decades later it's a multimillion dollar business, and he's Chief of Ministry Staff at one of the fastest growing churches in the country. But this conversation isn't really about success. It's about what it costs, what actually lasts, and the day his wife looked at him on a hotel bed and said, "Something's gotta change." In this conversation, we explore: The work-life "blender," not balance: Why balance is the wrong goal, and how to think in rhythms and seasons instead of a 50/50 split that never works.The four people every person needs: Someone to look up to, someone looking up to you, someone beside you, and someone who believes in you when you don't believe in yourself."It's not your business to succeed": How Jay untangled his identity from his achievements and learned to steward instead of striving.Faith meets AI: The Parable of the Five Talents, the Great Commission, and where Jay draws the line between a kingdom tool and outsourcing what humans should do.The story you're telling is not your own: Why your customer is the hero, and how clarity in messaging changes everything. You are not too broken for God to use. He does His best work through the cracks. Press play, friend. We're praying for you. ABOUT THE GUEST:Jay Owen founded his marketing agency at 17 years old and has spent more than two decades helping people tell their stories with clarity, growing it from a $5,500 first year into a multimillion-dollar business. He also serves as Chief of Ministry Staff at the Church of 1122, one of the fastest-growing churches in the country. A husband of 23 years and dad of five, Jay is passionate about helping entrepreneurs build businesses that last without sacrificing their families. Learn more at jayowenlive.com. ✨ Shop the Mission: www.madeofclay247.com📸 Instagram: @madeofclay247

  2. Jul 12

    025: Maybe We're Not So Different After All

    "Your goals have to be big enough that it almost requires a higher power to achieve. If you're not aiming to that level, you're doing yourself and your faith a disservice." Lauren Williams is an international athlete, Stanford graduate, and entrepreneur who spent twenty days running and operating a coast-to-coast flag relay across fifteen states for America's 250th birthday. She came into this conversation honest, curious, and wide open about her faith journey. This is a rare conversation about what it looks like to be on the front edge of belief before you even know what you believe. In this conversation, we explore: Relay for America behind the scenes — the logistics, the sleepless nights, and what it actually takes to run 3,016 miles on a two-week buildDreaming bigger than yourself — why Wyatt Moss says your goals aren't big enough unless they require something outside of youFaith curiosity without a road map — Lauren's honest questions about where to begin and what a real relationship with God even looks likeGetting in the water up to your nose — Gabby's retelling of the Nachshon story and what it means to actually take the first stepWhat small-town America taught a Stanford grad — the warmth, community, and shared humanity Lauren found in places she'd never beenIf you've ever felt like faith was something other people had figured out, this one is for you. ✨ Shop the Mission: www.madeofclay247.com📸 Instagram: @madeofclay247 🇺🇸 Relay For America: @relayforamerica

  3. Jul 5

    024: "I Was Drinking on My Way to Bible Study" — Robert Knoll on Anxiety, Sobriety, and What Surrender Actually Looks Like

    "I was showing up to church hungover. I had accepted Jesus, so why was I still anxious? And then I hit a prayer walk, weeping, and told God — if I have to keep feeling like this, I don't know if I can keep going." Robert Knoll grew up Catholic, wore a cross his whole life, and thought being a good person was enough. Then a breakup in Pittsburgh took him out. What followed was a year of crippling anxiety, alcohol as a coping mechanism, and a lukewarm faith that wasn't actually changing anything. It wasn't until full surrender on a prayer walk that everything shifted. In this conversation, we explore: Identity crisis — why Robert's sense of self collapsed when his relationship did, and what Hebrews 13:8 gave him that the world never couldAnxiety without sugarcoating — from childhood hypochondria to bedridden panic during COVID, and what it actually looks like to hand it to GodLukewarm faith and drinking through it — the first year of his walk, still getting drunk, and the moment he finally surrendered alcohol after 17 months soberShame vs. repentance — the difference between Judas and Peter, and why how you respond to sin matters more than the sin itselfStacking little wins — why discipline at 5 AM when no one's watching is how real transformation happensYou are not too far gone. You are not too broken. And you do not have to have it all figured out before you come home. Connect with Robert:Instagram: @lifetalkswithrobTikTok: @faithfueledrobertLinktree: linktr.ee/FaithFueledRobert ✨ Shop the Mission: www.madeofclay247.com📸 Instagram: @madeofclay247

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Welcome to Made of Clay, a podcast by Gabby, founder of Made of Clay Clothing. We bridge the gap between looking good and doing good, exploring what it means to be a "clay jar" in a gold-plated world. Join us for the messy behind-the-scenes of a mission-driven brand, stories from Guatemala, and raw talks on 2 Corinthians 4:7.