Behaviorally Speaking: Leadership for Change Makers

Dr. Esther C. Bubb

Behaviorally Speaking: Leadership for Change Makers is a weekly podcast where leadership meets behavior science, and where educators, clinicians, and humans grow. Hosted by Dr. Esther C. Bubb, EdD, BCBA, LBS, each Friday, the podcast brings dynamic conversations, lived experiences, and behavior-based leadership discussions from diverse guests. These episodes are designed to help you connect theory to practice, hear how leadership unfolds in complex systems, and consider how behavior is shaped, supported, and sustained in authentic contexts. As part of the Behaviorally Speaking Leadership Lab, a weekly leadership lab where change makers learn, test, and apply behavior-based strategies for real-world impact, Dr. Bubb invites you to listen actively, learn from lived expertise, and expand how you lead through connection and understanding. For more knowledge and learning, visit https://esthercbubbabaservices.com/. 

  1. 1d ago

    S4 E1: Creating the Conditions for Growth | 4 Leadership Lessons from Viola Davis’s Finding Me

    What can Viola Davis’s Finding Me teach us about leadership? In this Season 4 premiere of Behaviorally Speaking: Leadership for Change Makers, Dr. Esther C. Bubb explores four leadership lessons inspired by Davis’s memoir and examines them through a behavioral lens. This isn't a book review. It's a reflection on becoming. Dr. Bubb explores why leaders must examine their own behavioral histories, why we should never confuse someone's current behavior with their future potential, why people need opportunities to discover and use their voices, and how leaders can transform struggle into wisdom that benefits others. Drawing from her own experiences—from discovering applied behavior analysis to finding her voice growing up in Grenada and learning difficult lessons through professional experiences—Dr. Bubb connects these ideas to a central leadership philosophy: People can grow to more than they know. The question for leaders isn't merely, "How do I change this person?" Rather, it is: "What conditions might help this person discover what they are capable of becoming?" In this episode, you'll discover how a behavioral lens can move leadership beyond judgment and toward curiosity, understanding, opportunity, and growth. Inside this episode: • Four leadership lessons from Finding Me • Why self-awareness is a leadership responsibility • How leaders can avoid confusing current behavior with future potential • Why psychological safety matters when developing people's voices • How difficult experiences can become leadership wisdom • The power of changing conditions rather than simply trying to change people • A practical Monday Morning Move you can use immediately Listen, reflect, and consider: What possibility in the person you lead have you not yet unlocked? About Behaviorally Speaking: Leadership for Change Makers Behaviorally Speaking: Leadership for Change Makers is hosted by Dr. Esther C. Bubb, a behavior analyst and educational leader who explores leadership, behavior, dignity, organizational culture, and systems change. Leadership grounded in behavior. Guided by dignity. Designed for change. Connect with Dr. Esther Bubb If you're passionate about leadership, behavior science, education, and creating cultures where people flourish, you're in the right place. Because leadership isn't about changing people—it's about creating the conditions where people discover what's possible. Subscribe to Behaviorally Speaking: Leadership for Change-Makers for conversations that bridge behavior analysis, leadership, education, and organizational change. If you enjoyed this episode: ⭐ Follow the podcast ⭐ Leave a rating and review ⭐ Share this episode with a colleague, supervisor, educator, or fellow leader ⭐ Visit Esther C. Bubb ABA Services for additional leadership resources, training, and professional development opportunities 🌐 Esther C Bubb ABA Services: https://esthercbubbabaservices.com 📝 Behaviorally Speaking: Insight for Change Makers Blog: https://esthercbubbabaservices.com/blog Leadership is behavior. And behavior always tells a story. About the Host Dr. Esther C. Bubb, EdD, LBS, BCBA Dr. Esther C. Bubb is a behavior analyst, executive educational leader, leadership consultant, author, and podcast host who helps leaders, educators, and organizations create the conditions for growth. Her work bridges behavioral science, leadership, organizational culture, and systems change, equipping people and teams to achieve meaningful, sustainable outcomes. With more than two decades of experience spanning early intervention, special education, clinical services, higher education, and organizational leadership, Dr. Bubb is known for translating complex behavioral science into practical strategies that strengthen leadership, improve organizational culture, and drive lasting change. She believes great leadership is the intentional design of environments where people are most likely to learn, contribute, and thrive. Dr. Bubb currently serves as Supervisor of Early Childhood Programs, overseeing Preschool Early Intervention, Head Start, and Pre-K Counts initiatives. Her leadership experience also includes roles as an Early Intervention Program Supervisor, Coordinator of Student Services and Behavioral Supports, and Director of Children’s Clinical Services, giving her deep expertise in systems leadership, team development, and organizational effectiveness. As Founder and CEO of Esther C. Bubb ABA Services, Dr. Bubb partners with leaders, schools, and organizations to strengthen leadership capacity, build high-performing cultures, and implement evidence-based strategies that create sustainable growth. Her consulting and coaching emphasize ethical leadership, dignity-centered practice, staff, and caregiver empowerment, and navigating organizational change with intention. A sought-after speaker, educator, and trainer, Dr. Bubb specializes in leadership development, behavioral science, applied behavior analysis, and organizational culture. She is the host of the Behaviorally Speaking: Leadership for Change Makers podcast and author of the Behaviorally Speaking: Insights for Change Makers blog, where she explores leadership, dignity-centered ABA, caregiver support, professional resilience, and the application of behavioral science to real-world challenges. Dr. Bubb holds a Doctor of Education (EdD) in Special Education, an MBA, Pennsylvania Principal PK–12 Certification, educational leadership credentials, and is enrolled in advanced superintendent studies. She is a Board Certified Behavior Analyst (BCBA), Licensed Behavior Specialist (LBS), and certified educational leader. Known for her engaging, practical, and compassionate approach, Dr. Bubb inspires leaders to move beyond managing people to creating the conditions where individuals, teams, and organizations can thrive. AI Info This episode description was written with the assistance of AI.

  2. Sep 11

    S3 E10: Leadership Legacy in Motion | What Grenada’s Young Leaders Teach Us About Excellence

    What does Grenadian excellence look like, and what kind of legacy are today's young leaders building for tomorrow? In the final episode of the Young Leaders of Grenada: Rooted in Culture. Rising in Leadership. Ready to Lead four-part virtual youth panel series, Dr. Esther Bubb brings together five emerging Grenadian leaders for a timely conversation about leadership, resilience, service, excellence, opportunity, and legacy. Timara Bubb, Brandon Felix, Paul McBurnie, Peter McBurnie, and Lily Welsh reflect on the Grenadian leaders who have influenced their journeys and the behaviors they hope to carry forward. They share personal stories about people who believed in them, challenges that pushed them beyond what they thought was possible, and the experiences that helped shape who they are becoming. The conversation explores what makes Grenadian leadership distinctive, including resilience, community-mindedness, humility, warmth, and a willingness to serve others. The panelists also discuss the importance of continuous learning, rest, mentorship, self-awareness, integrity, the legacy they are building now, and creating opportunities for young people to step into leadership. From empowering young people to have a voice, to serving others, to leaving every place better than they found it, this episode reminds us that leadership is about what we do, how we treat people, and what becomes possible for others because we chose to lead. 🎙️ Listen to the final episode of Young Leaders of Grenada and hear directly from five young Grenadians who are already shaping what comes next. Leadership grounded in behavior, guided by dignity, and designed for change. ----more----Connect with Dr. Esther Bubb If you're passionate about leadership, behavior science, education, and creating cultures where people flourish, you're in the right place. Because leadership isn't about changing people—it's about creating the conditions where people discover what's possible. Subscribe to Behaviorally Speaking: Leadership for Change-Makers for conversations that bridge behavior analysis, leadership, education, and organizational change. If you enjoyed this episode: ⭐ Follow the podcast ⭐ Leave a rating and review ⭐ Share this episode with a colleague, supervisor, educator, or fellow leader ⭐ Visit Esther C. Bubb ABA Services for additional leadership resources, training, and professional development opportunities 🌐 Esther C Bubb ABA Services: https://esthercbubbabaservices.com 📝 Behaviorally Speaking: Insight for Change Makers Blog: https://esthercbubbabaservices.com/blog Leadership is behavior. And behavior always tells a story. ----more----About Our Guests Timara Bubb I am Timara Bubb, a graduate from Physics at McMaster, specializing in Medical and Biological Physics. I am currently pursuing my master’s in medical physics and Radiobiology at Oxford. I have a strong passion for science education and work in various outreach roles focused on educational equity and supporting equity-deserving kids in science. In my free time, I enjoy reading, volunteering and taking nature walks. Brandon Felix Brandon Felix is a student at St. George’s University with a strong passion for leadership, faith, and youth development. He is deeply committed to mentoring and guiding young people, particularly within the communities of Hope, Marquis, and Mt. Fann. He currently serves as Youth President of the Marquis Pentecostal Church, where he leads youth initiatives, mentors young people, and creates spaces that encourage spiritual growth, discipline, and positive life choices. His leadership focuses on building a generation that is grounded in faith and empowered to make meaningful contributions to society. Brandon also serves as Treasurer for both the Marquis Pentecostal Church and the Northeastern Zone of the Pentecostal Assembly of the West Indies (PAWI), Grenada Youth Ministries, where he is responsible for financial oversight and accountability, as well as supporting the sustainability of youth programs and activities. In addition, he is a National Youth Ambassador, where he contributes to youth representation and remains engaged in national conversations surrounding youth development and community impact. Brandon is driven by a vision to use his leadership and influence to inspire change, strengthen communities, and empower the next generation. Paul McBurnie Paul McBurnie is an Attorney-at-Law at Ciboney Chambers, Grenada. He has been admitted to practice law in Grenada and the Republic of Trinidad & Tobago and specializes in Litigation & Dispute Resolution as well as Conveyancing, Wills, Trusts & Succession, having recently assumed the role of Interim Head of the firm’s Conveyancing and Succession Department. Mr. McBurnie has appeared before the High Court and Court of Appeal in matters concerning contractual disputes, contentious probate, labor & employment, real property and public law. In his free time, Mr. McBurnie enjoys hiking, swimming, singing and photography. Peter McBurnie I am an adaptable and versatile individual with an academic background in Economics and International Business. Detail-oriented and dependable, I engage effectively with people across time zones and cultures, both independently and collaboratively.  I bring initiative, a broad perspective, and a strong sense of professionalism to every environment I join. Lily Welsh My name is Lily Welsh, and I am a passionate young professional from St. Mark, Grenada, dedicated to youth development, leadership, and community empowerment. I currently work as a Cybersecurity Officer within the Division of ICT in the Office of the Prime Minister, where I contribute to strengthening digital security and innovation. Beyond my professional role, I am actively involved in youth advocacy and national development through organizations such as the National Youth Ambassador Corps, Youth Parliament, and community initiatives. I am passionate about creating opportunities for young people, inspiring positive change, and using my voice to represent the needs of my generation. I am also someone who values growth, resilience, and service, and I believe in leading with purpose while making a meaningful impact wherever I serve. ----more---- AI Info This episode description was written with the assistance of AI.

  3. Sep 4

    S3 E9: Teaching for Belonging | Leadership Lessons on Neurodiversity, Inclusion, and Human Potential

    What does it mean to create an environment where people feel safe, valued, respected, and empowered to grow? In this episode of Behaviorally Speaking: Leadership for Change-Makers, Dr. Esther Bubb welcomes Julia Spychalski, M.Ed., an Autistic Support Teacher and emerging educational leader, for a conversation about neurodiversity, inclusion, belonging, and the leadership lessons we can learn from the classroom. With more than two decades of experience supporting students with diverse learning, behavioral, and communication needs, Julia shares how her experiences in special education and early intervention shaped her belief that human potential cannot be defined by a diagnosis or traditional measures of success. Together, Esther and Julia explore: Why success is about more than test scores and academics • How to hold high expectations while meeting people where they are • Why relationships and genuine listening are foundational to inclusion • The importance of assuming competence • How behavior and communication can be misunderstood • What psychological safety looks like in classrooms and teams • Why leaders must create space for people to take risks and make mistakes • How celebrating individuality can transform the way people experience belonging • Why leadership is about influence, support, advocacy, and empowerment—not simply a title • How small, everyday choices can create meaningful change Julia also shares a unique perspective on what it means to be a "ruckus maker"—someone willing to use their voice, actions, and influence to create spaces that are more equitable, compassionate, and accessible. The conversation closes with a simple Monday Morning Move: learn intentionally from someone with a different perspective or experience, ask questions with curiosity, and listen to understand rather than simply respond. Inclusion begins with the small, daily choices we make to help people feel valued, respected, safe—and able to be themselves. Leadership is grounded in behavior, guided by dignity, and designed for change. Connect with Dr. Esther Bubb If you're passionate about leadership, behavior science, education, and creating cultures where people flourish, you're in the right place. Because leadership isn't about changing people—it's about creating the conditions where people discover what's possible. Subscribe to Behaviorally Speaking: Leadership for Change-Makers for conversations that bridge behavior analysis, leadership, education, and organizational change. If you enjoyed this episode: ⭐ Follow the podcast ⭐ Leave a rating and review ⭐ Share this episode with a colleague, supervisor, educator, or fellow leader ⭐ Visit Esther C. Bubb ABA Services for additional leadership resources, training, and professional development opportunities 🌐 Esther C Bubb ABA Services: https://esthercbubbabaservices.com 📝 Behaviorally Speaking: Insight for Change Makers Blog: https://esthercbubbabaservices.com/blog Leadership is behavior. And behavior always tells a story. About Our Guest Julia Spychalski, MEd, Autistic Support Teacher Julia Spychalski is an experienced special education educator and emerging educational leader with more than two decades of experience supporting students with diverse learning, behavioral, and communication needs across public, charter, private, and early intervention settings. She currently serves as a Teacher of Students with Autism with the Christina School District, where she develops individualized, standards-based instructional programming, implements positive behavior supports, collaborates with multidisciplinary teams, and promotes inclusive and equitable practices through DEIB initiatives and school leadership committees. Her background includes extensive experience in Autism Support, Emotional Support, Life Skills, and Early Intervention programming, along with expertise in IEP development, behavioral supports, community-based instruction, assistive technology, and family collaboration. Throughout her career, Julia has demonstrated a strong commitment to instructional leadership, student advocacy, and staff collaboration. She has held leadership and mentoring roles including ESY Lead, classroom team supervision, committee participation, and coordination with outside agencies and community partners. Julia earned her M.Ed. with a 4.0 GPA and recently completed her certification program in Supervision and Leadership through Penn State World Campus. She is passionate about creating supportive, student-centered learning environments that foster academic growth, independence, and social-emotional success for all learners.

  4. Aug 28

    S3 E8: Change Leadership | Building Trust, Culture, & Systems for Lasting Growth

    In this episode of Behaviorally Speaking: Leadership for Change-Makers, Dr. Esther Bubb sits down with Erin McGrenaghan, MS.Ed., BCBA, Training and Development Specialist, to explore what happens when we move beyond delivering information and begin intentionally creating the conditions for people to learn, grow, implement, and thrive. Erin shares her journey from special education teacher to behavior analyst and professional development specialist—and how those experiences shaped her approach to adult learning, coaching, leadership, and professional development. Together, Esther and Erin explore: Why meaningful relationships are at the heart of learning and change How Behavior Skills Training can shape effective adult learning Why trust and psychological safety are foundational to professional growth The difference between passive, “stand-and-deliver” training and learning that changes behavior How hands-on practice, collaboration, stories, and follow-up promote skill generalization Why leaders should create cultures where people feel safe saying, “I don't know yet” How professional development can become a system of growth rather than a checkbox Why leaders should use feedback and data to determine what their teams actually need How solution-focused problem solving can shift people from focusing on problems to identifying possibilities And Erin's simple Monday Morning Move: pause, reflect, appreciate yourself, acknowledge someone else, and set an intention for growth. One of the central ideas from this conversation is that change is more than introducing new information. It's about intentionally creating the conditions where improvement can happen—and helping people implement and sustain what they've learned. If you're a leader, educator, BCBA, supervisor, coach, or change maker committed to developing people rather than simply directing them, this conversation is for you. Listen, reflect, and then ask yourself: What conditions am I creating for the people I lead to grow? Connect with Dr. Esther Bubb If you're passionate about leadership, behavior science, education, and creating cultures where people flourish, you're in the right place. Because leadership isn't about changing people—it's about creating the conditions where people discover what's possible. Subscribe to Behaviorally Speaking: Leadership for Change-Makers for conversations that bridge behavior analysis, leadership, education, and organizational change. If you enjoyed this episode: ⭐ Follow the podcast ⭐ Leave a rating and review ⭐ Share this episode with a colleague, supervisor, educator, or fellow leader ⭐ Visit Esther C. Bubb ABA Services for additional leadership resources, training, and professional development opportunities 🌐 Esther C Bubb ABA Services: https://esthercbubbabaservices.com 📝 Behaviorally Speaking Blog: https://esthercbubbabaservices.com/blog Leadership is behavior. And behavior always tells a story. About Our Guest Erin McGrenaghan, MS. Ed., BCBA, Training and Development Specialist Erin McGrenaghan is a Board Certified Behavior Analyst, Licensed Behavior Specialist (PA/NJ), Special Education Teacher, and Professional Development Specialist dedicated to supporting students, educators, and families through evidence-based practices, collaboration, and individualized support. With experience across special education, behavior analysis, instructional coaching, and educational consultation, Erin works closely with multidisciplinary teams to develop strategies that promote communication, independence, academic growth, and inclusive learning opportunities for students with diverse needs. A proud graduate of Drexel University, Erin earned a dual master’s degree in Applied Behavior Analysis and Special Education with a certification in Autism Spectrum Disorder. She is passionate about bridging the gap between research and practical application by providing meaningful coaching, professional development, and training to educators and school teams in areas including classroom management, behavior intervention, autism support, communication systems, and effective instructional practices.

  5. Aug 21

    S3 E7: Leading Change Where You Are | How Trust, Advocacy, and Everyday Behaviors Create Lasting Community Impact

    What does leadership look like when people are facing grief, uncertainty, housing instability, immigration concerns, or other life challenges? In this episode of Behaviorally Speaking: Leadership for Change-Makers, Dr. Esther Bubb sits down with Sonia A. Staples, Director of Constituent Services for Prince George's County, to explore how leadership shows up in moments when people need support the most. Drawing from her experiences as an immigrant, advocate, mother, and public servant, Sonia shares lessons about trust-building, communication, cultural humility, community engagement, and the behaviors that help people navigate complex systems. She discusses the importance of meeting people where they are, listening without judgment, advocating for marginalized voices, and helping communities recognize the power of their own voices. Throughout the conversation, Sonia offers practical wisdom for leaders who want to create meaningful change without losing themselves in the process. In this episode, you'll learn: Why leadership begins with service and human connection How trust is built through consistent communication and follow-through The role of advocacy in creating equitable outcomes Why cultural humility matters more than assumptions How everyday behaviors can influence systems and communities A powerful Monday Morning Move to help leaders prevent burnout and lead with intention Whether you lead a team, a family, a community initiative, or simply want to create positive change where you are, this conversation offers practical insights you can apply immediately. Connect with Dr. Esther Bubb If you're passionate about leadership, behavior science, education, and creating cultures where people flourish, you're in the right place. Because leadership isn't about changing people—it's about creating the conditions where people discover what's possible. Subscribe to Behaviorally Speaking: Leadership for Change-Makers for conversations that bridge behavior analysis, leadership, education, and organizational change. If you enjoyed this episode: ⭐ Follow the podcast ⭐ Leave a rating and review ⭐ Share this episode with a colleague, supervisor, educator, or fellow leader ⭐ Visit Esther C. Bubb ABA Services for additional leadership resources, training, and professional development opportunities 🌐 Esther C Bubb ABA Services: https://esthercbubbabaservices.com 📝 Behaviorally Speaking Blog: https://esthercbubbabaservices.com/blog Leadership is behavior. And behavior always tells a story. About Our Guest Sonia A. Staples, MSA, Director of Constituent Services, Prince George's County Sonia Staples was born in Freetown, Sierra Leone, and migrated to Washington, DC in 1993. She attended Calvin Coolidge High School, where her passion for advocacy and leadership first began through her involvement in student government and the International Students Association. She earned her undergraduate degree from Cheyney University of Pennsylvania in 2002. Sonia is the proud mother of four and believes deeply that her life has been enriched through advocacy, service, and intentional parenting. She is committed to shaping young minds by providing exposure, opportunity, and encouragement principles that guide both her family life and public service. In 2009, Sonia moved to Prince George’s County, Maryland, where she has remained actively involved in local politics and community advocacy. In response to the current climate of anti-immigration rhetoric and policy challenges, she has taken an active role in helping shape policies that uplift and protect immigrant communities. Sonia recently earned her Master’s degree in Accounting from the University of Arizona Global Campus and has immediately enrolled in a Master of Public Policy program at the University of Baltimore. This academic path reflects her commitment to understanding where policy meets the people—particularly when decisions directly impact immigrant and historically underserved communities. By combining financial expertise with public policy training, Sonia brings a practical, informed perspective to governance and community leadership. Grounded in faith and service, Sonia is an active member of Epiphany Episcopal Church in Forestville and Christ Reigneth Chapel in Upper Marlboro, Maryland. She is member of Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, Inc.

  6. Aug 14

    S3 E6: Leading Change That Sticks: Behavioral Secrets for Trust, Growth, and Impact with Laura Jenkins

    In this episode of Behaviorally Speaking: Leadership for Change Makers, host Dr. Esther Bubb sits down with special guest Laura Jenkins, M.Ed., Supervisor of Special Education. Together, they explore how long-lasting organizational, educational, and personal change starts at the foundational level of human behavior. Laura shares her transition from elementary and special education classroom teacher to administrative leader, dropping powerful insights on adult behavior, trust, and influence. Key Takeaways: Influence Over Authority: Why leadership isn't a title—it’s your everyday behavior. Adult vs. Student Outcomes: How refining adult behaviors directly drives student success and progress. Cut Through the Urgency: Practical ways to distinguish what is just "loud" from what is genuinely important. Building Deep Trust: Why rolling out one initiative with fidelity beats pushing multiple changes at once. The Monday Morning Move: A simple, high-impact question you can ask immediately to transform transactional chats into relational leadership. Connect with Dr. Esther Bubb If you're passionate about leadership, behavior science, education, and creating cultures where people flourish, you're in the right place. Because leadership isn't about changing people—it's about creating the conditions where people discover what's possible. Subscribe to Behaviorally Speaking: Leadership for Change-Makers for conversations that bridge behavior analysis, leadership, education, and organizational change. If you enjoyed this episode: ⭐ Follow the podcast ⭐ Leave a rating and review ⭐ Share this episode with a colleague, supervisor, educator, or fellow leader ⭐ Visit Esther C. Bubb ABA Services for additional leadership resources, training, and professional development opportunities 🌐 Esther C Bubb ABA Services: https://esthercbubbabaservices.com 📝 Behaviorally Speaking Blog: https://esthercbubbabaservices.com/blog Leadership is behavior. And behavior always tells a story. About Our Guest Laura Jenkins, M.Ed., Supervisor of Special Education Laura Jenkins is a dedicated educational leader with experience in both general and special education. She began her career as an elementary teacher before transitioning into special education, where she developed a strong commitment to supporting diverse learners and inclusive practices. During her career, she has served in leadership roles including Assistant Supervisor of a full-time Low Incidence Program and Interim Supervisor of a full-time Emotional Support Program. Laura currently serves as a Supervisor of Special Education, overseeing programming across several elementary schools within her school district. She values collaboration with educators, families, and stakeholders to promote student growth and success. Mrs. Jenkins holds a Master’s Degree in Elementary Education from the University of Scranton, along with Special Education and Supervisor of Special Education certifications from Immaculata University.

  7. Aug 7

    S3 E5: Lead Where You Are | How Young Leaders Are Creating Solutions For Real Challenges in Grenada 🇬🇩

    Young Leaders of Grenada – Part III: How Young Leaders Are Creating Solutions For Real Challenges in Grenada What does it take to move beyond recognizing problems and begin creating meaningful solutions? In Part III of the Young Leaders of Grenada series, Dr. Esther Bubb is joined by an inspiring panel of emerging leaders—Zadie Barry, Brandon Felix, Paul McBurnie, Peter McBurnie, and Lily Welsh—for a timely conversation about solving community challenges through leadership, service, and collective action. Together, they explore real issues facing Grenadian youth—from mental health, civic participation, and youth disengagement to employment opportunities, brain drain, and community resilience. More importantly, they challenge listeners to look beyond symptoms, identify root causes, and recognize that lasting change begins with everyday leadership behaviors. Throughout the conversation, the panel shares personal experiences, practical solutions, and genuine leadership lessons on topics including: Why noticing a problem isn't enough—we must become part of the solution. The importance of servant leadership, humility, empathy, and collaboration. How small daily behaviors build trust, strengthen communities, and inspire change. Why youth disengagement, brain drain, and low civic participation are symptoms of deeper systemic challenges. How young people can create opportunities instead of waiting for them. The role of entrepreneurship, innovation, and community partnerships in shaping Grenada's future. Preserving Grenada's culture of resilience, togetherness, and service for the next generation. Drawing from both behavior science and leadership principles, Dr. Bubb reminds listeners that leadership is behavior—and every conversation, every action, and every choice influences the future of our communities. Whether you're a young leader, educator, parent, policymaker, or member of the Grenadian diaspora, this episode offers practical insights and inspiration for anyone committed to creating positive change where they are. Leadership doesn't begin with a title—it begins with a decision to serve. Connect with Dr. Esther Bubb If you're passionate about leadership, behavior science, education, and creating cultures where people flourish, you're in the right place. Because leadership isn't about changing people—it's about creating the conditions where people discover what's possible. Subscribe to Behaviorally Speaking: Leadership for Change-Makers for conversations that bridge behavior analysis, leadership, education, and organizational change. If you enjoyed this episode: ⭐ Follow the podcast ⭐ Leave a rating and review ⭐ Share this episode with a colleague, supervisor, educator, or fellow leader ⭐ Visit Esther C. Bubb ABA Services for additional leadership resources, training, and professional development opportunities 🌐 Esther C Bubb ABA Services: https://esthercbubbabaservices.com 📝 Behaviorally Speaking Blog: https://esthercbubbabaservices.com/blog Leadership is behavior. And behavior always tells a story. About Our Guests Guests Zadie Barry Zadie Barry is a youth leader and advocate whose work centers on youth empowerment, climate action, and responsible development, with a strong focus on creating practical opportunities for young people to lead and thrive. She is the founder of the Small Island Futures Foundation, where she drives initiatives that connect environmental awareness, mental well-being, and economic opportunity. She is also the founder and project lead for GND MindSpace, a youth-focused mental health initiative creating safe, accessible spaces for open conversations and support around well-being. With over five years of volunteer experience, Zadie has been an active member of the Youth Emergency Action Committee and serves as Vice-Chair for Communications with the Global Youth Biodiversity Network Caribbean Chapter, where she contributes to regional advocacy and youth engagement on environmental issues. She is also the voice behind The Youth Spotlight, a platform dedicated to highlighting young people who are making a meaningful impact in their communities. With a background in meteorology and a deep commitment to civic engagement, she brings a thoughtful and solution-oriented perspective to conversations around development, resilience, and youth leadership across the Caribbean. Brandon Felix Brandon Felix is a student at St. George’s University with a strong passion for leadership, faith, and youth development. He is deeply committed to mentoring and guiding young people, particularly within the communities of Hope, Marquis, and Mt. Fann. He currently serves as Youth President of the Marquis Pentecostal Church, where he leads youth initiatives, mentors young people, and creates spaces that encourage spiritual growth, discipline, and positive life choices. His leadership focuses on building a generation that is grounded in faith and empowered to make meaningful contributions to society. Brandon also serves as Treasurer for both the Marquis Pentecostal Church and the Northeastern Zone of the Pentecostal Assembly of the West Indies (PAWI), Grenada Youth Ministries, where he is responsible for financial oversight and accountability, as well as supporting the sustainability of youth programs and activities. In addition, he is a National Youth Ambassador, where he contributes to youth representation and remains engaged in national conversations surrounding youth development and community impact. Brandon is driven by a vision to use his leadership and influence to inspire change, strengthen communities, and empower the next generation. Paul McBurnie Paul McBurnie is an Attorney-at-Law at Ciboney Chambers, Grenada. He has been admitted to practice law in Grenada and the Republic of Trinidad & Tobago and specializes in Litigation & Dispute Resolution as well as Conveyancing, Wills, Trusts & Succession, having recently assumed the role of Interim Head of the firm’s Conveyancing and Succession Department. Mr. McBurnie has appeared before the High Court and Court of Appeal in matters concerning contractual disputes, contentious probate, labor & employment, real property and public law. In his free time, Mr. McBurnie enjoys hiking, swimming, singing and photography. Peter McBurnie I am an adaptable and versatile individual with an academic background in Economics and International Business. Detail-oriented and dependable, I engage effectively with people across time zones and cultures, both independently and collaboratively.  I bring initiative, a broad perspective, and a strong sense of professionalism to every environment I join. Lily Welsh My name is Lily Welsh, and I am a passionate young professional from St. Mark, Grenada, dedicated to youth development, leadership, and community empowerment. I currently work as a Cybersecurity Officer within the Division of ICT in the Office of the Prime Minister, where I contribute to strengthening digital security and innovation. Beyond my professional role, I am actively involved in youth advocacy and national development through organizations such as the National Youth Ambassador Corps, Youth Parliament, and community initiatives. I am passionate about creating opportunities for young people, inspiring positive change, and using my voice to represent the needs of my generation. I am also someone who values growth, resilience, and service, and I believe in leading with purpose while making a meaningful impact wherever I serve.

  8. Jul 31

    S3 E4: Leading Beyond the Individual | Designing Systems That Create Meaningful Change

    In this episode, Dr. Esther Bubb sits down with school-based behavior analyst and clinical leader Kelleen Corrigan to explore what it means to lead beyond direct service. From her roots in a service-oriented family to her work in clinical research at Drexel University and tiered school systems, Kelleen shares actionable insights on behavioral leadership, building alignment across multidisciplinary teams, and designing sustainable environments. Tune in to discover how to move from reactive behavior management to proactive system design, foster staff development through compassionate coaching, and lead with both precision and empathy. In This Episode, You'll Learn: Why lasting behavior change begins with designing better systems—not fixing people. How leaders can shift from reactive problem-solving to proactive environmental design. Practical strategies for aligning educators, clinicians, administrators, and families around shared goals. How to translate behavior analytic principles into language that builds collaboration across disciplines. Ways reinforcement, coaching, and performance feedback strengthen confidence and leadership capacity. Why ethical leadership requires courage, transparency, and accountability beyond simple compliance. How small, coordinated wins build momentum for large-scale organizational change. Why relationships remain one of the most powerful behavior change technologies available to leaders. Memorable Quote "I don't aim for perfect agreement. I aim for coordinated action." — Kelleen Corrigan About Our Guest Kelleen Corrigan, MS, BCBA, NJ-LBA Kelleen is a Board Certified Behavior Analyst and New Jersey–Licensed Behavior Analyst with over a decade of experience providing evidence-based behavioral assessment, intervention, and consultation across clinical, educational, and research settings. She currently serves as a behavior analyst in a New Jersey school district, where she delivers consultation services, collaborates with multidisciplinary teams, and partners with district leadership to support and strengthen tiered systems of behavioral support. Kelleen also provides parent coaching and guidance to families within her local community. Her professional background includes leadership roles in both educational and behavioral healthcare organizations, where she has provided training, supervision, and mentorship to aspiring BCBAs, RBTs, and paraeducators. Earlier in her career, Kelleen worked at Drexel University’s A.J. Drexel Autism Institute, contributing to multiple federally funded research initiatives focused on early intervention, treatment matching, and social communication outcomes for individuals with autism spectrum disorder. Committed to advancing high-quality care and professional development in the field, Kelleen has presented at professional conferences and contributed to peer-reviewed research on behavioral and developmental interventions. She is passionate about translating research into practical, sustainable strategies that meaningfully improve outcomes for individuals, families, and schools. Connect  If you're passionate about leadership, behavior science, education, and creating cultures where people flourish, you're in the right place. Because leadership isn't about changing people—it's about creating the conditions where people discover what's possible. Subscribe to Behaviorally Speaking: Leadership for Change-Makers for conversations that bridge behavior analysis, leadership, education, and organizational change. If you enjoyed this episode: ⭐ Follow the podcast ⭐ Leave a rating and review ⭐ Share this episode with a colleague, supervisor, educator, or fellow leader ⭐ Visit Esther C. Bubb ABA Services for additional leadership resources, training, and professional development opportunities 🌐 Esther C Bubb ABA Services: https://esthercbubbabaservices.com 📝 Behaviorally Speaking Blog: https://esthercbubbabaservices.com/blog Leadership is behavior. And behavior always tells a story.

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Behaviorally Speaking: Leadership for Change Makers is a weekly podcast where leadership meets behavior science, and where educators, clinicians, and humans grow. Hosted by Dr. Esther C. Bubb, EdD, BCBA, LBS, each Friday, the podcast brings dynamic conversations, lived experiences, and behavior-based leadership discussions from diverse guests. These episodes are designed to help you connect theory to practice, hear how leadership unfolds in complex systems, and consider how behavior is shaped, supported, and sustained in authentic contexts. As part of the Behaviorally Speaking Leadership Lab, a weekly leadership lab where change makers learn, test, and apply behavior-based strategies for real-world impact, Dr. Bubb invites you to listen actively, learn from lived expertise, and expand how you lead through connection and understanding. For more knowledge and learning, visit https://esthercbubbabaservices.com/.