The Heartbeat Debrief

Devin Grovala

Healthcare doesn’t end when the shift does—and neither do the thoughts that come with it. Heartbeat Debrief is a podcast for nurses, EMS providers, and healthcare professionals navigating the realities of the job on and off the clock. From high-pressure calls to the moments that linger long after, this space is dedicated to the conversations that don’t make it into textbooks. Hosted by Devin, a registered nurse with a background in military medicine, EMS, and critical care, the podcast explores mental health, growth, and the weight healthcare workers carry—reminding you that you’re not alone in it. https://linktr.ee/heartbeat.debrief

  1. Sep 19

    Ep. 18: Precepting: How to Teach Without Burning Out

    Precepting is one of the most meaningful things we do in healthcare — and one of the most exhausting. In this episode of Heartbeat Debrief, Devin gets honest about the cognitive and emotional workload that comes with training new clinicians. Whether you are an EMS FTO, EMT or paramedic preceptor, bedside nurse, clinical instructor, charge nurse, or simply the person everyone assigns new hires to, you are doing more than teaching skills. You are safeguarding patients, coaching clinical judgment, building confidence, correcting course, and still managing your own assignment. This episode explores how to support new nurses, EMTs, paramedics, and experienced clinicians transitioning into a new role without becoming their rescuer. Devin breaks down how to create room for learners to think, use brief high-yield teaching moments, deliver feedback that is specific and useful, and set boundaries when precepting starts to become unsustainable. Feeling tired, frustrated, or burned out by precepting does not mean you are a bad teacher or that you do not care about the people you train. It may mean you are being asked to carry two demanding jobs at once — without enough support. In This Episode Why precepting is so mentally and emotionally demanding.The difference between being a learner’s rescuer and being their coach.How to decide when to let an orientee work through a problem and when to step in for patient safety.Why teaching clinical judgment matters more than simply checking off skills.Questions that help learners build prioritization, communication, escalation, and critical-thinking skills.How to use short, high-yield teachable moments during a busy shift or call.A simple debrief framework: What went well? What would you do differently? What is one thing to focus on next time?Why vague feedback like “be more confident” or “be more organized” does not help learners grow.How specific, timely feedback can protect confidence while still addressing performance concerns.The learner’s responsibility to prepare, ask questions, seek out policies, accept feedback, and take ownership of their growth.Why letting an orientee advance without adequate clinical judgment is not kindness to them, their future coworkers, or their patients.Permission for preceptors and FTOs to acknowledge when the system is asking too much.Key Takeaway The best preceptors are not the ones who make themselves indispensable. They are the ones who help new clinicians become safe, thoughtful, and confident enough to eventually work without someone standing over their shoulder. Quote “Give them room to think, give them a clear safety net, give them specific feedback, and give yourself permission to say when the system is asking too much.” Call to Action If you are precepting, training, or mentoring someone right now, share this episode with another clinician who needs the reminder: teaching is valuable work, but it should not require sacrificing yourself in the process. Subscribe to Heartbeat Debrief, leave a review, and check in on the preceptor, FTO, educator, or coworker who may be carrying more than anyone realizes.

    Ep. 18: Precepting: How to Teach Without Burning Out
  2. Sep 4

    Ep. 17 When the Call Hits Close to Home

    In this episode, Devin sits down with Cody — Assistant Fire Chief of Sugar Creek Fire & Rescue and a flight paramedic for the Cleveland Clinic's Critical Care Transport Team — to talk about what it means to serve a small community where every call hits close to home. Cody opens with a powerful analogy: after a traumatic incident, your brain is like an airport receiving too many planes — nothing can move, and you feel locked up. The answer isn't to stop living; it's to move those planes out a little at a time and let normalcy bring you back. They get into the reality of rural EMS — running calls on people you know, delivering babies across the street, and driving past the scenes of the ones that didn't go right. Cody shares the story of a trauma arrest that turned out to be a coworker's brother, and the full-circle moment when a local business switched its blood drives to support the department that saved one of their own. They also explore what real support looks like — from a small department's flexibility to send you home after a bad call and still pay you, to the structured peer support teams at a large institution like Cleveland Clinic — and why a bare-minimum EAP isn't enough. Plus, the "family orientation" idea for supporting first responders' loved ones, managing personal triggers, and a powerful story about delivering a death notification to a family he'd known his whole life. Key Topics Covered: "brain as an airport" analogy for processing traumaWhat it's like to serve a small, rural communityWhy 100% buy-in changes how you practiceThe full-circle story of community blood drive supportPeer support vs. bare-minimum EAPsTaking care of your people — the little things that matterManaging personal triggers and supporting familiesAbout the Guest: Cody is the Assistant Fire Chief at Sugar Creek Fire & Rescue and a flight paramedic for the Cleveland Clinic's Critical Care Transport Team. With 15 years as a paramedic and 8 as as a flight paramedic, he's worked private EMS, military contract work at Andrews Air Force Base, paramedic for the Washington Nationals, volunteer firefighter and more — always serving the communities he calls home.

    Ep. 17 When the Call Hits Close to Home
  3. Jul 3

    Ep. 14 From the Veteran Nurse to the Early Career Nurse

    In this episode of Heartbeat Debrief, Devin sits down with nurse mentor Bree to talk about the lessons that come with experience, the mistakes that shape us, and the advice early-career nurses need most. Bree shares her journey through nursing, from mom-baby and veteran care to the NICU, and reflects on how much she has learned not just from mentors, but also from the newer nurses she has taught along the way. Together, they discuss the importance of owning mistakes, speaking up, learning your own style, and creating a culture where questions are encouraged instead of punished. The conversation also explores how healthcare culture has changed, why burnout and staffing pressures affect new nurses so quickly, and what keeps experienced nurses coming back: their “why,” their patients, and the people beside them. Key Topics Lessons learned through years of nursing experience.How newer nurses can still teach and challenge experienced clinicians.Why owning mistakes matters in patient safety and professional growth.The reality of nurse-to-nurse culture and “eating our young”.How staffing pressure and burnout shape early careers.Why finding your “why” keeps nurses grounded and fulfilled.Guest Bio Bree is a NICU nurse with 10 years of nursing experience. Her background includes mom-baby nursing, work at the VA, and teaching and mentoring new nurses in the NICU. Notable Quote “The newer nurses can bring just as much value into an experience as an older experienced nurse” ECHO FAST Team https://www.echoflightcrew.org/fast 1-833-AIR-FAST fast@echoflightcrew.org

    Ep. 14 From the Veteran Nurse to the Early Career Nurse
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Healthcare doesn’t end when the shift does—and neither do the thoughts that come with it. Heartbeat Debrief is a podcast for nurses, EMS providers, and healthcare professionals navigating the realities of the job on and off the clock. From high-pressure calls to the moments that linger long after, this space is dedicated to the conversations that don’t make it into textbooks. Hosted by Devin, a registered nurse with a background in military medicine, EMS, and critical care, the podcast explores mental health, growth, and the weight healthcare workers carry—reminding you that you’re not alone in it. https://linktr.ee/heartbeat.debrief