Definitely Not Famous: More Extra than Ordinary

Rebecca J. Hogue

It is hard to find good memoir written by and about people who are not famous. And yet, these are some of the best memoirs to read. They are so much more relatable than celebrity memoirs. This is what inspired me to create Definitely Not Famous, a podcast where I interview memoirists about their stories. My goal with this podcast is to elevate the stories of everyday people who truly are More Extra than Ordinary.

Episodes

  1. Chainsaws, Firebreaks, and Finding Direction with Aaron Williams

    1h ago

    Chainsaws, Firebreaks, and Finding Direction with Aaron Williams

    ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★ Buy The Last Logging Show: Bookshop.org, Amazon, KoboChasing Smoke: Bookshop.org, Amazon, KoboIn this episode of Definitely Not Famous, host Rebecca Hogue speaks with Aaron Williams about his memoirs Chasing Smoke, which recounts his work as a wildland firefighter, and The Last Logging Show, which follows his family’s history in the old-growth logging industry in northern British Columbia. Aaron discusses his upbringing in Terrace and Haida Gwaii, how logging camps shaped his understanding of the bush, and how his logging background helped him move into firefighting after the Queen of the North sank and altered his plans.He explains the practical side of wildland firefighting, including building firebreaks, cutting hose trails, and clearing land to mineral soil, and says the work pushed him toward greater discipline and teamwork. Aaron also reflects on writing *The Last Logging Show* while his first book was being published, his goal of documenting a disappearing way of life, and his choice to include environmental and Indigenous perspectives after feedback from early readers. The episode closes with Aaron discussing his current manuscript about the Martin Mars water bomber and the lessons he has learned from publishing, including the value of reading widely, working well with publishers, and being easy to work with. (00:45) - Chapter 01 (03:42) - Chapter 02 (06:08) - Chapter 03 (08:12) - Chapter 04 (09:34) - Chapter 05 (11:54) - Chapter 06 (15:28) - Chapter 07 (19:41) - Chapter 08 (21:39) - Chapter 09 (24:03) - Chapter 10

    25 min
  2. Writing the Illogical Adventure with James MacDuff

    May 6

    Writing the Illogical Adventure with James MacDuff

    The Illogical Adventure - on KoboThe Illogical Adventure - on Amazon Support Rebecca on Patreon Writing The Illogical Adventure focuses on the craft challenges and ethical questions involved in co‑writing a memoir with two distinct voices. Rebecca continues her conversation with James MacDuff, who—alongside his wife, Mirriam Mweemba—coauthored The Illogical Adventure. What began as James’s solo MFA writing project about travel evolved into a shared memoir when he realized the story only worked if it fully included Mirriam’s perspective.James describes the collaborative process they developed to protect authenticity and trust: recorded interviews, drafting in Mirriam’s own words, and an iterative editing workflow that allowed her to set clear boundaries around privacy. He reflects on how feedback from mentors and early readers shaped the book’s structure, helping them balance the two voices and gradually weave them together as their lives converged. The episode also explores the emotional labour of memoir—deciding what to disclose, how to portray family and friends fairly, and whether the work is worth the personal cost when publication is uncertain.The conversation closes with a practical look at publishing, as James explains how a local creative nonfiction prize offered a realistic, accessible path from manuscript to book—underscoring the importance of small presses in bringing new voices into the world. (00:38) - Chapter 01 (05:09) - Chapter 02 (14:03) - Chapter 03 (16:01) - Chapter 04 ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

    21 min
  3. Biking, Surfing, and Searching for Solitude with RC Shaw

    Jan 13

    Biking, Surfing, and Searching for Solitude with RC Shaw

    Buy Louisbourg or Bust on Amazon.Buy Captain Solitude on Amazon.Buy Captain Solitude on Kobo. In this episode, Rebecca J. Hogue sits down with RC Shaw (Ryan Shaw), author of Louisbourg or Bust and Captain Solitude, to explore the adventurous and reflective world of memoir writing. Ryan shares how honesty and vulnerability shape his stories of bikepacking and surfing along Nova Scotia’s rugged coastline, and how he balances openness with his role as a school librarian. The conversation dives into themes of solitude, free camping, and unexpected encounters—including psychic mediums and the ghost of legendary sailor Joshua Slocum. Ryan also reveals his unique writing process, from drafting longhand to collaborating with editors, and discusses the challenges of crafting authentic dialogue. The episode offers insights into the publishing journey, the evolution of book titles, and the stories left on the cutting room floor. Looking ahead, Ryan teases his next epic adventure: a walking trek across Newfoundland with his dog, a surfboard, and a copy of King Lear, blending travel, history, and literature. He even hints at a future leap into fiction. This conversation is a deep dive into creativity, risk-taking, and the art of living—and writing—more extra than ordinary. (00:05) - Introduction to R.C. Shaw (02:19) - The Art of Free Camping (02:53) - Seeking Solitude on the Journey (04:56) - Meeting Psychic Mediums (07:43) - Writing Craft: Handwritten Drafts (10:12) - The Challenge of Dialogue (12:40) - Title Transformation (16:55) - Behind the Scenes of Editing (19:02) - The Journey of Lewisburg or Bust (20:54) - Timelines in Traditional Publishing (22:34) - Planning an Epic Hike (26:56) - Embracing Isolation (27:42) - Transitioning to Fiction ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

    30 min
  4. Always Ask for Help with Janet Lee

    12/17/2025

    Always Ask for Help with Janet Lee

    Amazon Kobo Bookshop.org In this episode of Definitely Not Famous, host Rebecca Hogue interviews Janet Lee, co‑author of Always Ask for Help, a memoir about Arnie Stewart, an adult who lived most of his life unable to read or write. The conversation traces Arnie’s extraordinary journey from a childhood marked by poverty, hunger, and shame in Cobalt, Ontario, to adulthood where he survived through ingenuity, bluffing, and resilience. Janet first encountered Arnie when he spoke to her high‑school literacy students. His honesty and vulnerability captivated the room — and inspired one student living in a car to finally ask for help. That moment led Janet to promise Arnie she would help him tell his story. Together, they spoke to 72 audiences, teaching students the power of vulnerability and the importance of literacy. Janet developed a structured “before, during, and after” approach for schools, helping students engage deeply with Arnie’s message. She also created the Arnie Card, a tool that allows people to silently signal when they need help — now used not only in schools but in local businesses. Janet describes the emotional and technical challenges of writing the book with Arnie, capturing his voice, and editing hours of imperfect audio. She also shares her own struggle with asking for help, including a painful experience with a writers’ group that nearly derailed the project. Now, more than 22 years after she first met Arnie, Janet is expanding the project into a documentary film, using animations based on drawings created by students who heard Arnie speak. She sees this as the medium that will finally reach the people Arnie most wanted to help — those with low literacy. The episode closes with Janet’s advice for memoir writers: choose a topic you’re passionate about, allow others to help you, and keep going even when the journey feels impossible.  (00:06) - Introduction to Arnie's Story (00:38) - Meeting Arnie Stewart (06:26) - Janet's Turn to Support Arnie (09:00) - Innovations in Arnie's Presentations (10:51) - The Power of the Arnie Card (13:48) - Writing the Book Together (17:52) - Janet's Journey as a Writer (21:15) - Expanding Arnie's Story to Film (26:42) - Editing for Film Adaptation (27:34) - Advice for Aspiring Memoir Writers (29:44) - Supporting the Project and Closing Remarks ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

    32 min

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It is hard to find good memoir written by and about people who are not famous. And yet, these are some of the best memoirs to read. They are so much more relatable than celebrity memoirs. This is what inspired me to create Definitely Not Famous, a podcast where I interview memoirists about their stories. My goal with this podcast is to elevate the stories of everyday people who truly are More Extra than Ordinary.