Stretched: Rebuilding K12 Facilities and Operations

David Sturtz

Many Public-School Districts are stretched thin, with enrollments declining, costs increasing, and decision-makers operating within a hyper-polarized political environment. We talk with K12 leaders, advisors and researchers on how K12 Districts are, and can lead their communities through this moment towards better outcomes for kids.

  1. May 20

    Episode 13: The Lived Experience of Building Conditions, Part 2

    In this episode of Stretched, David Sturtz and MaryFilardo continue their insightful conversation with Jerry Roseman, focusing on the multifaceted aspects of facility condition assessments (FCA) in schools. Jerry emphasizes the importance of understanding the lived experiences ofoccupants within school buildings, arguing that data alone cannot capture the full picture of a facility's condition. He shares examples from the Philadelphia School District, illustrating how decisions are made based on a combinationof quantitative data and qualitative insights from the community. The discussion highlights the need for a culture of caring and trust within educational environments, which can significantly impact the effectiveness of health and safety measures in schools. The conversation delves into the challenges of establishingclear standards for health and safety in school facilities, particularly regarding environmental contaminants like asbestos and lead. Jerry argues that while there are some standards in place, the lack of enforcement and clearaction plans often leaves schools vulnerable. The episode concludes with a call to action for school districts to adopt a more proactive approach to facility management, emphasizing the importance of ongoing monitoring and community engagement to ensure safe and conducive learning environments.

    1h 3m

  2. May 18

    Episode 12: The Lived Experience of Building Conditions, Part 1

    In this conversation, Jerry Roseman discusses his extensive experience in environmental science and school safety, emphasizing the importance of understanding the lived experiences of those in school environments. He highlights the need for short-term solutions to build trust while addressing long-term infrastructure issues. The discussion also covers the limitations of facility condition assessments and the necessity of listening to stakeholders to prioritize needs effectively. Jerry draws parallels between storytelling and data, advocating for transparency and open communication to foster collaboration between school administrations and communities.

    59 min

  3. Mar 31

    Episode 11: School Security, Planning and Politics

    It's been a minute... Starting a business takes a fair amount of time, but after a few months we are ready and able to start posting again. In this conversation, David Sturtz, Mary Filardo, and Guy Bliesner discuss the multifaceted aspects of school security, emphasizing the importance of a holistic approach that integrates safety assessments, community engagement, and effective communication. Guy shares his journey from education to school security, highlighting the need for a nurturing educational environment while addressing security concerns. The discussion also touches on the impact of technology, the role of building conditions, and the significance of federal funding in enhancing school safety.

    52 min
  4. Episode 10: Perspectives on school facilities from the ground up with Dr. Brandon Payne

    12/12/2025

    Episode 10: Perspectives on school facilities from the ground up with Dr. Brandon Payne

    In this conversation, Dr. Brandon Payne shares his journey from a summer maintenance worker to the Executive Director of the National Council on School Facilities. He discusses the challenges faced by school facilities, particularly in rural areas, and the impact of changing demographics on school operations. The conversation emphasizes the importance of strategic planning, data-driven decision-making, and the need for consolidation of school districts to improve efficiency and outcomes for students. Dr. Payne highlights the necessity of understanding facility conditions and the financial implications of maintaining aging school buildings while preparing students for future challenges.

    52 min
  5. Episode 9: Foundations of Facility Finance and Safety with Jonathan Kassa

    12/12/2025

    Episode 9: Foundations of Facility Finance and Safety with Jonathan Kassa

    In this conversation, Jonathan Kassa shares his journey as a school board member and executive director of Zero Now, emphasizing the importance of school safety and effective facilities management. He discusses the challenges of public education, including funding, infrastructure, and community engagement. Kassa highlights the need for transparency and trust in school governance, advocating for data-driven decision-making and the integration of safety measures into educational planning. The discussion also touches on the significance of educating school leaders about capital planning and the necessity of prioritizing student needs in all decisions.

    46 min
  6. Episode 8: 5,280 Days

    12/12/2025

    Episode 8: 5,280 Days

    In this conversation, David Sturtz, Mary Filardo, and Mathew Palmer discuss the critical role of school planning within the broader context of community development. They explore the importance of school locations, the trade-offs involved in urban versus suburban planning, and the need for creative solutions to address underutilization of schools. The discussion also highlights the alignment of data and morality in making decisions about school closures, the challenges of funding disparities, and the necessity of effective planning departments within school districts. Ultimately, the conversation emphasizes the importance of collaboration between schools, cities, and counties to create a cohesive approach to education and community development.

    57 min
  7. Episode 7: The Planning Mindset

    12/12/2025

    Episode 7: The Planning Mindset

    In this conversation, Matthew Palmer discusses his journey into school facility planning, emphasizing the importance of a planning mindset that connects knowledge to action. He highlights the challenges faced in community planning, the role of data in decision-making, and the need for schools to serve as community anchors. Palmer advocates for a holistic approach to education that prioritizes student well-being and community engagement, while also addressing the complexities of school siting in both growing and declining communities

    1h 10m
  8. Episode 6: Transforming Fargo's Schools

    12/12/2025

    Episode 6: Transforming Fargo's Schools

    This conversation delves into the comprehensive facility planning process undertaken by Fargo Public Schools, highlighting the importance of life cycle replacement projects, community engagement, and data-driven decision-making. The discussion emphasizes the need for equitable resources and opportunities for students, the challenges of school consolidation, and the significance of sustainability in planning. The speakers reflect on the successes and future steps necessary to maintain and improve the facilities while ensuring that the needs of the community and students are met.

    1h 15m
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Many Public-School Districts are stretched thin, with enrollments declining, costs increasing, and decision-makers operating within a hyper-polarized political environment. We talk with K12 leaders, advisors and researchers on how K12 Districts are, and can lead their communities through this moment towards better outcomes for kids.

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