Two Palagi in a Pisinisi Pod

GMurph and DDewar

The Pacific is one of the most commercially underestimated places on the planet. Its business stories rarely get told. That's what we're here for. Two Palagi in a Pisinisi Pod is a weekly business podcast hosted by Dave Dewar, based in Rarotonga Cook Islands (previously in Fiji), and Glen Murphy, based in Auckland New Zealand. Between them they've spent years working across the Pacific: building businesses, opening markets, and getting to know the people, trends and organisations that make this region tick. Now they've got a microphone and a lot of questions. Each week Dave and Glen dig into the business stories, news, and trends shaping the Pacific. Sometimes a conversation with an operator or investor with skin in the game; sometimes unravelling and explaining stories and trends that deserve more commercial attention than it's getting. Always, it means thirty minutes of straight talk with no development-sector framing. The show is made for businesspeople, investors, and professionals with Pacific interests - whether from Australia, New Zealand or across the region, but anyone curious about what's actually happening commercially across the Pacific will find plenty to take away. The listener who gets the most out of it is someone who knows the Pacific is worth paying attention to, and wants intelligence they can act on rather than headlines they've already seen. Pisinisi, by the way, is the Samoan and Tongan word for "business". Palagi refers to people of European descent in several Pacific cultures. Two Palagi in a Pisinisi Pod: the name says exactly what it is. New episodes drop weekly. Find us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube, or get in touch at two.palagi@gmail.com.

  1. 4d ago

    S01 E31 - The Constantinou Group in PNG - July 18 2026

    Summary In this episode, we explore the Pacific region's business landscape through an insightful conversation with George Constantinou of the Constantinou Group. Discover how a family business spans multiple markets and generations, and gain valuable regional insights. We explore their diverse portfolio, management strategies, regional opportunities, and community initiatives. Keywords Pacific region, family business, Papua New Guinea, regional investment, tourism, property development, business insights Key  topics The history and diversification of the Constantinou Group The role of family leadership across generations Investments in tourism and property in PNG and Samoa Challenges and opportunities in regional markets Insights into Pacific regional economic development Guest  name George Constantinou  Sound bites "The group has had a significant investment in Samoa for over ten years." "They describe themselves as a fully integrated property development business." "Their portfolio spans property, construction, and tourism across the region." Chapters 00:00 Introduction and episode overview 01:16 Weekly updates and personal reflections 05:34 Introduction to George Constantinou and the Talanoa 06:09 IGeorge Constantinou and the Constantinou Group 32:50 Talanoa Summary and the Week Ahead Constantino Group Website - https://www.constantinou-group.com/ Airways Hotel - https://www.airways.com.pg/  Taumeasina Island Resort - https://www.taumeasinaislandresortsamoa.com/ Loloata Island Resort - https://www.loloataislandresort.com/ Lamana Hotel - https://lamanahotel.com.pg/  Heritage Park Hotel - https://heritageparkhotel.com.sb/ Texas Chicken - https://nz.texaschicken.com/ Sir Theo Foundation - https://www.sirtheofoundation.org/ Port Moresby Kiwi Club - https://www.facebook.com/POMKiwiClub/ PNG Investment Week - https://www.businessadvantagepng.com/events/png-investment-week-2026/ Business Advantage PNG - https://www.businessadvantagepng.com/ PNG Chiefs - https://nrlpng.co/

  2. Jul 12

    S01 E30 - John Stokes and Eat The Kiwi - July 11 2026

    Navigating Pacific Food Supply Chains with John Stokes Discover how John Stokes leverages his extensive experience in food distribution from New Zealand to the Pacific, creating sustainable and profitable regional supply chains. This episode delves into the intricacies of exporting Pacific-grown produce, overcoming logistical hurdles, and building local markets.Main Topics: The evolution of food distribution and supply chain models in the PacificOpportunities and challenges in exporting premium Pacific produceStrategies for leveraging local growers to add value and reduce reliance on importsThe importance of research, relationships, and understanding local market dynamicsFuture opportunities in regional exports, including premium products and niche markets In this episode: We celebrate Dave’s birthday along with the Matariki celebrationJohn Stokes shares his journey from the Auckland restaurant scene to founding "Eat the Kiwi" and expanding into Pacific marketsInsights on establishing supply chains for high-end products tailored for super yachts and resortsThe significance of local sourcing and supporting regional growersOvercoming freight and logistical challenges faced when exporting to New Zealand and beyondOpportunities for small premium food businesses to tap into Pacific marketsThe potential for Pacific producers to export back into New Zealand and Australia Timestamps:  00:00 - Introduction to John's background and Pacific food logistics 02:18 - John's transition from Auckland restaurants to Pacific markets 04:00 - Building relationships with Pacific growers and traders 07:15 - Establishing supply chains for super yachts and resorts in Vanuatu and Samoa 09:32 - Evolution of the supply model from New Zealand to local sourcing 11:45 - Overcoming export challenges and freight logistics 13:38 - The importance of market research and local partnerships 16:00 - Shifts in demand for higher quality food in Pacific resorts 17:55 - Opportunities for small businesses in Pacific markets 20:09 - Common mistakes in Pacific market entry and how to avoid them 31:16 - Export of Pacific produce (like limes) back to New Zealand 34:44 - Supporting local producers through branding and storytelling 37:42 - Future exploration and regional market potential 40:45 - Key advice for businesses entering the Pacific region 41:30 - Challenges and lessons learned from Pacific trading ventures 43:09 - Closing remarks and vision for the future of Pacific food trade Resources & Links: Eat the Kiwihttps://dynamicvanuatu.com/https://www.heilalavanilla.co.nz/https://www.whittakers.co.nzhttps://www.markwellfoods.co.nz/https://dsrupt.com/

  3. Jul 5

    S01 E29 - Matthew Finlay and Solomon Airlines - July 4 2026

    Summary In this episode, Glen and Dave discuss regional business insights, cultural highlights, and recent developments in the Pacific, including airline innovations and culinary achievements. The main feature is a Talanoa with Matthew Finlay the CEO of Solomon Airlines and how he sees his first 130 days in the role along with his views for the future. Keywords Pacific business, airline industry, Michelin stars, cultural attire, regional news Key  topics Pacific regional business dynamics Innovations in airline industry: Solomon Airlines and Air Rarotonga Pacific cuisine recognition: Michelin stars in New Zealand Recent regional news and personal stories Takeaways Pacific airlines are expanding international routes, enhancing connectivity. Recognition of Pacific cuisine with Michelin stars highlights regional talent. Cultural attire like Tongan shirts fosters regional identity and pride. Regional news reflects a vibrant and evolving Pacific business landscape. Guest  name Matt Finlay Titles Pacific Business Insights with Glen and Dave Airline Innovations in the Pacific Sound bites "First Pacific Michelin star in Auckland." "Solomon Airlines balances community service and revenue." "Inaugural Christchurch to Solomon Islands flight." Chapters 00:00 Welcome and Introductions 02:54 Farewells and Reflections 05:53 Culinary Achievements in the Pacific 08:01 Matthew Finlay’s Journey in Aviation 17:12 Challenges of Running and Airline vs. an Airport 20:24 The Future of Air Travel and Regional Connectivity 22:02 Purposeful Partnerships in Aviation 22:48 Navigating Domestic and International Markets 25:36 Tourism Potential in Solomon Islands 28:21 Collaborative Opportunities in the Pacific 30:34 Stakeholder Management Challenges 32:22 Sustainability and Future Growth Strategies 35:11 Talanoa Summary 37:14 Looking at the Week Ahead 44:12 Two Palagi Sign-Off Resources Solomon Airlines - https://www.flysolomons.com Air Rarotonga - https://airraro.com Michelin Stars in New Zealand - https://guide.michelin.com/en/nz/restaurants Tala Restaurant Auckland - https://www.tala.co.nz/

  4. Jun 27

    S01 E28 - Makerita Urale and Pacific Creative Enterprises - June 27 2026

    Keywords Creative Arts, New Zealand, Pacific, Economic Impact, Export, Sustainability, Makerita Urale, Creative New Zealand, Arts Strategy, Intellectual Property Takeaways Creative arts contribute over 4.3% to New Zealand's GDP. Pacific creative enterprises play a vital role in promoting New Zealand internationally. Makerita Urale emphasizes the importance of connecting Pacific arts with global audiences. Creative New Zealand has a five-year Pacific Arts strategy focused on export potential. The arts sector is a significant export earner for New Zealand. Building relationships is crucial for success in the creative industries. Artists need to understand the economic aspects of their work. Collaboration with local businesses can enhance creative sustainability. Intellectual property rights are essential for protecting artists' work. AI should not replace the creative process but can assist in administrative tasks. Summary This conversation explores the significant impact of creative arts on New Zealand's economy, particularly through Pacific creative enterprises. Makerita Urale, a key figure at Creative New Zealand, shares her journey and the organization's strategies to promote and sustain the arts sector. The discussion highlights the importance of building relationships, understanding economic sustainability, and protecting intellectual property in the creative industries. The Export Essentials program aims to equip Pacific artists with the necessary skills to navigate the global market, emphasizing collaboration and community support. Sound Bites "Creative arts contribute over 4.3% to GDP." "We have a five-year Pacific Arts strategy." "The arts sector is a significant export earner." "Building relationships is crucial for success." "Go and ask for help from successful business people." "Intellectual property rights are essential for artists." "AI should assist, not replace creativity.” Chapters 00:00 Introduction 03:45 The Economic Impact of Creative Arts in New Zealand 04:42 Makerita Urale’s Journey in Pacific Arts 06:22 Creative New Zealand's Role and Strategies 11:27 Building a Sustainable Creative Economy 14:52 Export Essentials for Pacific Creative Enterprises 17:52 The Importance of Relationships in the Arts 23:16 Connecting with Local Business for Support 27:04 Intellectual Property and AI in the Creative Sector 28:51 Summary and Close Resources Creative New Zealand website: https://creativenz.govt.nz/ Creative NZ Leadership: https://creativenz.govt.nz/about-creative-nz/the-team#senior-leadership Creative NZ Pacific Team: https://creativenz.govt.nz/about-creative-nz/the-team#pacific-arts NZTE: https://my.nzte.govt.nz/

  5. Jun 22

    S01 E27 - The Distillery Co. Fiji - June 20 2026

    Summary In this episode, Glen and Dave explore regional business trends, economic relationships, and inspiring rescue stories from the Pacific. The key feature is an engaging Talanoa with Paul Clark, Managing Director of The Distillery Co. Fiji. With deep personal and family connections to Fiji Paul and his brother have created world class products under brands like Blue Turtle Gin and VulaViti Vodka. Keywords Pacific region, rescue stories, distilling, regional trends, Fiji spirits, Blue Turtle Gin, rum, provenance, export, business scaling, awards, local ingredients, Pacific craftsmanship, entrepreneurship, regional development, creative industries,  Key  topics Rescue story of a fisherman in Cook Islands Impact of global events on Pacific fuel prices Talanoa with Paul Clark from The Distillery Co. Fiji Paul's diverse career journey The importance of provenance in spirits The impact of awards on brand recognition Scaling production and export strategies in Fiji Challenges of doing business in Fiji and the Pacific The importance of local talent and community support Guest Name Paul Clark from The Distillery Co. Fiji Titles Pacific Business Insights with Glen and Dave Rescue and Trade: Pacific Stories Unveiled From Auctioneer to Distiller: Paul Clark's Fiji Spirit Journey How Fiji's Blue Turtle Gin Became World-Class  Sound Bites "Working across the Pacific for the last five or six years" "The bilateral economic relationship between New Zealand and Fiji is over two billion dollars" "A fisherman found after a week lost at sea, alive and waving his paddle” "Yeast is the most important thing in this distillery." "If it's a Fijian rum, it needs to be made, matured, and bottled here.” "Creating a world-class product out of passion." "Local talent and community are key to growth." Chapters 00:00 Two Palagi Introduction 07:31 Introduction to The Distillery Co. Fiji and Blue Turtle Gin 07:50 Paul Clark's Journey to Fiji Distillery 19:28 Building a True Fiji Product  23:05 World Class Quality 27:56 Challenges and Opportunities for Business 30:33 Vinaka Paul 30:52 Lessons Learned: Passion and Persistence in Business Resources The Distillery Co. Fiji - https://tdcfiji.com/ Takeaways Passion and attention to detail are crucial for business success. Investing in local talent and community fosters sustainable growth. Pacific entrepreneurs are capable of creating world-class products.

  6. Jun 15

    S01 E26 - Vasiti Soko and Business Continuity Planning - June 13 2026

    Summary In this episode, Glen and Dave explore disaster management and business continuity planning through a talanoa with Vasiti Soko who was the first female director of Fiji’s National Disaster Management Office. Vasiti led the organisation through COVID 19 as well as through a number of natural emergencies. The talanoa comes off the back of Dave working with Vasiti on facilitation of a webinar discussing the fuel crisis with Fiji’s Business Disaster and Resilience Council and examines important topics like business continuity planning. Keywords Pacific region, disaster management, economic frameworks, fuel crisis, Pacific investment, Fiji, Samoa, regional development Key  topics Pacific Value for Investment Model (P-VIM) Government budgets and regional economic policies Vasiti Soko’s career journey from Fiji to UC Berkeley Leadership and trust-building in disaster management The role of NDMO in Fiji and regional influence Business continuity planning and crisis preparedness The importance of relationship building before crises Empowering local experts and Pacific communities Disaster management framework: assess, prepare, respond, recover System level thinking and regional cooperation Guest Name Visiti Soko Sound bites "Vasiti Soko's role in disaster management" "New framework evaluates community benefits" "Pacific budgets reflect regional priorities” "You can't change the person but you can change the relationship" "Assess the situation, prepare, respond, recover" "When dealing with the Pacific, do things wholeheartedly from the heart" Chapters 00:00 Welcome and Introduction 05:04 Economic Announcements and Regional Developments 05:29 Transitioning to the Talanoa with Vasiti Soko 06:29 Introduction to Vasiti Soko  09:33 Vasiti's Journey to Leadership in Disaster Management 13:23 Lessons from Leading the National Disaster Management Office (NDMO) 17:50 The Role of NDMO in Crisis Management and Coordination 20:32 The Role of NDMO in Crisis Management 21:54 Business Continuity Planning: A Necessity 23:18 Building Relationships for Effective Disaster Response 25:12 Leveraging Local Resources in Crisis Situations 27:35 Entrepreneurial Ventures and Community Impact 30:36 Conclusion and Reflections on the Discussion 36:30 The NZ Fiji Business Council Heads to Fiji 38:34 PM Rabuka plays Waltzing Matilda 42:30 Read out Resources VPAC Consultancy - https://pacific-vigil.com BCP Template - https://pacific-vigil.com/pacific-ready Pacific AI Recruit - https://pacific-ai-talent.replit.app/talent/ Fiji Hub - https://fiji-travel-hub.replit.app/

  7. Jun 7

    S01 E25 - Talanoa with Craig Smith of Counterpoint Group - June 6 2026

    Content  type Interview Summary Dave is safely back in Rarotonga but while he was in Fiji he had a Talanoa with Craig Smith from Fiji's Counterpoint Group. Craig shares insights on digital innovation in Fiji's tourism sector, regional tech development, and the future of AI and digital tools in the Pacific. Discover how local businesses are transforming and the opportunities for growth and collaboration across the region. Glen and Dave also discuss recent developments in the Pacific, including digital connectivity, business innovations, trade relations, and regional events, highlighting opportunities and challenges in the region. Keywords Fiji, tourism, digital innovation, AI, Pacific, technology, small business, regional development, digital transformation, tourism technology Key  topics Digital transformation in Fiji's tourism sector Integration of AI and data analytics in Pacific businesses Regional collaboration and tech development in the Pacific Fiji-New Zealand trade relations and exports Renewable energy initiatives in Fiji Regional business leadership and community impact Takeaways Digital tools are empowering small tourism operators in Fiji to compete globally. AI and data integration are key to unlocking new business opportunities in the Pacific. Regional collaboration and knowledge sharing are vital for Pacific's digital growth. Guest  name Craig Smith Titles How Fiji's Tech Sector is Revolutionizing Tourism The Future of AI and Digital Tools in the Pacific Sound bites "Low broadband penetration was a common challenge." "Training on AI tools is key to future growth." "Human connection remains vital in Pacific tourism." Chapters 00:00 Two Palagi Introduction 03:56 Introduction to Counterpoint Group and Fiji's Digital Landscape 05:58 Craig Smith's Journey and Background 08:25 Fiji's IT Scene and Opportunities 13:33 Counterpoint Group's Services and Community Engagement 17:59 Nabuki and Bokoon: Innovations in Tourism Technology 22:08 The Role of AI in Fiji's Business Landscape 26:25 Final Thoughts and Future Opportunities 28:12 The week ahead Resources Counterpoint Group Website - https://counterpoint.digital/

  8. Jun 1

    S01 E24 - Pacific Infrastructure Conference, Nadi - May 30 2026

    Summary With Dave freshly back from attending the Pacific Business Opportunities Seminar (PBOS) in Nadi, Glen and Dave discuss the key themes from PBOS, focusing on localization, community development, and regional collaboration. While he was at the conference Dave had a couple of Talanoa and highlights how infrastructure procurement is changing with local empowerment. This episode features Talanoa with Titi Tutuvanu-Schwalger who is the Pacific Quality Infrastructure Principles Advisor to the Pacific Islands Forum Secretary and with Jay Bartlett CEO of Hatanga Construction.   Keywords Pacific infrastructure, localization, community development, regional collaboration, Pacific Islands, infrastructure projects, local businesses, community impact   Key  topics Localization in infrastructure projects Regional collaboration and partnership Pacific Quality Infrastructure Principles   Sound bites "Increasing localization in the region" "Contributing to community outcomes" "Great to see this initiative growing"   Chapters 00:00 Podcast Introduction 03:40 Introduction to the Pacific Infrastructure Business Opportunities Seminar 06:56 Introduction to Titi 08:23 Understanding the Role of Titi in Pacific Infrastructure 10:25 Exploring the Pacific Quality Infrastructure Principles 12:50 Local Content and Its Importance in Infrastructure Projects 14:15 Building Relationships for Effective Localization 15:50 Challenges and Opportunities in the Pacific Infrastructure Sector 21:45 Jay Bartlett from Hatanga Construction 35:35 Conclusion and the week ahead   Resources Pacific Infrastructure Conference 2026 - https://example.com/pacific-infrastructure-2023 Pacific Quality Infrastructure Principles - Pacific Quality Infrastructure Principles.pdf Hatanga Construction - Hatanga - Solomon Islands Construction & Infrastructure By Group – https://www.bygroup.com.au

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The Pacific is one of the most commercially underestimated places on the planet. Its business stories rarely get told. That's what we're here for. Two Palagi in a Pisinisi Pod is a weekly business podcast hosted by Dave Dewar, based in Rarotonga Cook Islands (previously in Fiji), and Glen Murphy, based in Auckland New Zealand. Between them they've spent years working across the Pacific: building businesses, opening markets, and getting to know the people, trends and organisations that make this region tick. Now they've got a microphone and a lot of questions. Each week Dave and Glen dig into the business stories, news, and trends shaping the Pacific. Sometimes a conversation with an operator or investor with skin in the game; sometimes unravelling and explaining stories and trends that deserve more commercial attention than it's getting. Always, it means thirty minutes of straight talk with no development-sector framing. The show is made for businesspeople, investors, and professionals with Pacific interests - whether from Australia, New Zealand or across the region, but anyone curious about what's actually happening commercially across the Pacific will find plenty to take away. The listener who gets the most out of it is someone who knows the Pacific is worth paying attention to, and wants intelligence they can act on rather than headlines they've already seen. Pisinisi, by the way, is the Samoan and Tongan word for "business". Palagi refers to people of European descent in several Pacific cultures. Two Palagi in a Pisinisi Pod: the name says exactly what it is. New episodes drop weekly. Find us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube, or get in touch at two.palagi@gmail.com.

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