The Care2Grow Show

Dr. Larry Arbeitman

The Care2Grow Show is a podcast where real conversations with purpose-driven practitioners reveal what it truly means to lead with care. What to expect: Candid interviews with successful chiropractors and healthcare providers to learn how they incorporate "care" into their patient care. Insights into the mindset shifts and pivotal moments that changed their careers Practical tools for building trust, growing sustainably, and staying aligned. A deeper look at the care-first philosophy in real-world practice: Whether you're looking for inspiration, tactical strategies, or a reminder of why you started, this podcast is designed to nourish your mind, align your mission, and reignite your passion for practice.

  1. 2d ago

    Sit Down, Slow Down: Deena Nasr, PA-C, on Earning Trust in Trauma Care

    Deena Nasr, MHS, PA-C, is a certified Physician Assistant in the Department of Orthopedic Surgery and the Division of Hospital Medicine at a major urban hospital, where she also serves as Director of Advanced Practice Providers overseeing roughly 75 PAs and NPs. She's a Clinical Assistant Professor at the George Washington University Physician Assistant Program, holds a BS in Kinesiology from the University of Maryland and an MS in Health Sciences from Duke University School of Medicine, and is board-certified by the NCCPA. In this episode, Deena traces her path from watching her mother — a physician trained in Cairo — study surgical videos on the family TV, to competitive athlete, to hospital medicine, and finally to orthopedic trauma. She and Larry dig into what compassionate care actually looks like when a patient arrives by ambulance in crisis: introducing herself, asking permission before diving into "why are you here," acknowledging what happened, and offering honest reassurance — a 30-60 second exchange she says can change a patient's entire physiological state. Highlights include: How her mother's path from Cairo to U.S. medical practice shaped her calling to care for people The moment a PT clinic patient introduced her to the PA profession — and changed her career trajectory Why she deliberately built a foundation in hospital medicine before specializing in orthopedic surgery Her framework for connecting with trauma patients in the first minutes after a life-altering injury Coaching a new advanced practice provider through a bedside communication breakdown, and the perspective-shift exercise she used How culture gets set (and reset) inside a large hospital system, service line by service line A candid take on what the U.S. healthcare system gets right — universal emergency access, equipment standards, treatment regardless of ability to pay — compared to her family's experience with her grandmother's stroke care in Cairo Two stories of cultural humility in action: a rural North Carolina patient who couldn't understand her accent, and a DC patient who didn't know what to do with a prescription slip "Reading the breadcrumbs" — the elderly patient who stopped leaving her house after a fainting episode, and the conversation that helped her get her life back The story behind a patient in recovery from heroin addiction who refused a blood transfusion — until Deena sat down Why she believes clinicians don't need more time with patients, just to be perceived differently Lightning round: her one-word care philosophy, the podcast that shaped how she thinks about care, and what she wishes every patient knew about her Connect with Deena:   LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/deena-n-66a78b32/ If this conversation moved you, like, follow, or share the Care to Grow Show — every share helps put care back into healthcare.

    Sit Down, Slow Down: Deena Nasr, PA-C, on Earning Trust in Trauma Care
  2. Oct 26

    The Power of Love: Winston Meikle, MSN, MBA, HCA, CCRN, on Quantum Physics, Consciousness & Love-Based Nursing

    On this episode of The Care2Grow Show®, Dr. Larry Arbeitman welcomes Winston Meikle, MSN, MBA, HCA, CCRN — a registered nurse, educator, and healthcare entrepreneur whose four decades in nursing have shaped a bold vision for modern medicine grounded not in fear, but in love. Beginning his career as an LPN and rising through the full continuum of nursing, Winston is the founder and CEO of Loving Care Partners and founder and COO of Mobile Lab Techs, and the author of The Power of Love: A Nursing Theory. In this episode, they discuss: Winston's 40-year journey from LPN to ICU nurse, and the series of unexplainable "coincidences" over the course of his career that led him to believe love, not fear, is the true organizing force behind healing. How quantum physics — including the double-slit experiment, the delayed-choice experiment, and a striking study involving baby chicks imprinting on a random-motion robot — offers scientific grounding for what he calls the "power of love" in human consciousness and healing. A powerful story from his ICU career: a critically ill patient with a life-threatening device infection, where Winston asked a Reiki practitioner to stay away from the patient's room after she predicted his death, and nursed him back to recovery through months of intentional, loving care. His 4-A framework — Acknowledge, Accept, Adopt, Actualize — for helping providers shift from unconsciously projecting fear and stress into patient interactions to intentionally leading with love. Why he teaches his nursing students "love-based nursing" instead of the fear-based orientation ("don't lose your license") that dominates most healthcare education. Dr. Masaru Emoto's water crystal studies and what they suggest about the impact of intention and language on the body — including why telling a patient "you'll never get better" can be genuinely harmful. How he applies loving intention even to something as small and uncomfortable as a blood draw in his mobile phlebotomy business — and why patients specifically request him by name. His current projects, including a white paper with Dr. Apurv Gupta on building "loving organizations" in healthcare, and his upcoming platform, Loving Care Partners, designed to educate and empower patients navigating the healthcare system. A lightning round covering his care philosophy in one word (love), the person who's influenced how he thinks (Napoleon Hill), and finishing the sentence: "Care is... a sacred, divine experience." About Winston Meikle Winston Meikle, MSN, MBA, HCA, CCRN, is a registered nurse, educator, and healthcare entrepreneur whose four decades in nursing have shaped a bold new vision for modern medicine — one grounded not in fear, but in love. Beginning his journey as an LPN and rising through the full continuum of nursing, Winston is the founder and CEO of Loving Care Partners, a healthcare advocacy company rooted in a love-centered philosophy, and founder and COO of Mobile Lab Techs, a mobile diagnostic service in the NY Metro region. He is the author of The Power of Love: A Nursing Theory, integrating consciousness, spirituality, and nursing science into a practical roadmap for self-healing and resilience. His signature frameworks include the 4-A Cycle — Acknowledge, Accept, Adopt, Actualize — and the 9-Principle Model. Winston's life work is built on the conviction that love is the true organizing force of care and human potential. Connect with Winston Meikle Website: poweroflovetheory.com Book: The Power of Love: A Nursing Theory — a.co/d/0evofwl1 LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/winston-meikle-257820366 Social: @poweroflovetheory on Facebook, Instagram, and X If this conversation resonated with you, share it with someone who needs to hear it — that's how we put the care back into healthcare, one conversation at a time.

    The Power of Love: Winston Meikle, MSN, MBA, HCA, CCRN, on Quantum Physics, Consciousness & Love-Based Nursing
  3. Oct 19

    The First Person to Sit Down: Dr. Savitha Rao, MD, on Presence, Empathy & Integrative Psychiatry

    On this episode of The Care2Grow Show®, Dr. Larry Arbeitman welcomes Dr. Savitha Rao, a double board-certified adult, child, and adolescent psychiatrist who recently opened her own integrative psychiatry practice, Walls Down Wellness, in Red Bank, New Jersey. Drawing from traditional medical training as well as formal study in functional medicine and integrative psychiatry, Dr. Rao designs customized treatment plans that go beyond medication management to consider the whole person. In this episode, they discuss: Dr. Rao's own journey with depression and anxiety, which came to a head during residency, and how incorporating therapy, lifestyle changes, meditation, and the gut-brain connection alongside medication eventually allowed her to move beyond needing it — an experience that now shapes how she treats her own patients. Why she believes integrative psychiatry isn't a replacement for traditional, evidence-based training but a way to build on it, especially with children and adolescents whose brains are still developing. How she cares for the whole family, not just the child in front of her, and why she sees a parent's emotional state, and even marital dynamics that surface in the room, as valuable information rather than a distraction. The power of presence and simple, active listening — including research showing patients feel truly heard in as little as 50 seconds, while the average doctor listens for only 17 to 27 seconds before interrupting. How she intentionally designed her office — a couch instead of a desk, no barriers between her and her patients, meaningful art on the walls, natural materials — to help regulate a patient's nervous system before a word is even spoken. A powerful story about a homeless patient who refused a life-saving blood transfusion for hours, then signed the consent immediately once a provider simply sat down at his level — because, he said, she was the first person to do it. Her own self-care practices, including a non-negotiable daily transcendental meditation practice, prioritizing sleep, and time at the beach, and why she believes physician burnout isn't caused by caring too much, but by not checking in with your own needs. Her new newsletter, Buddy Business, exploring topics like the loneliness epidemic and the vagus nerve's role in social connection. A lightning round covering her care philosophy in one word (integrative), the people who've shaped how she cares (her parents), and finishing the sentence: "Care is... being present." About Dr. Savitha Rao Dr. Savitha Rao is a double board-certified adult, child, and adolescent psychiatrist who has recently opened a private integrative psychiatry practice, Walls Down Wellness, in downtown Red Bank, NJ. Her prior experience spans multiple psychiatric settings, including inpatient, outpatient, emergency room, and consult/liaison. Drawing from traditional medical training as well as formal training in both functional medicine and integrative psychiatry, she works closely with patients to design customized treatment plans based on their individual needs, taking an integrative approach to mental health that considers the whole person. Dr. Rao was born and raised in New Jersey and currently resides in Asbury Park. She attended Rutgers University for her undergraduate degree and Rutgers New Jersey Medical School for her medical degree, completing both a general psychiatry residency and a child and adolescent psychiatry fellowship at Robert Wood Johnson Medical School. Connect with Dr. Savitha Rao Website: wallsdownwellness.com If this conversation resonated with you, share it with someone who needs to hear it — that's how we put the care back into healthcare, one conversation at a time.

    The First Person to Sit Down: Dr. Savitha Rao, MD, on Presence, Empathy & Integrative Psychiatry
  4. Oct 12

    Cracked Open: Dr. David Moore, DC, on Burnout, Breathwork & Finding His Own Purpose

    On this episode of The Care2Grow Show®, Dr. Larry Arbeitman welcomes Dr. David Moore for what he calls "truth serum" — an unusually candid conversation about what it really costs to chase someone else's version of success. After 25 years as a chiropractor, building a practice, treating thousands of patients, and writing a book, Dr. Moore walked away from his practice in 2021, not by choice but by necessity, after years of pushing through chronic pain and injury finally caught up with him. In this episode, they discuss: Dr. Moore's path into chiropractic — including a rough start marked by youthful mistakes, an injury that led him to his first chiropractor, and a single adjustment that changed the direction of his life. How he spent years chasing other practitioners' numbers and definitions of success instead of building his own purpose — and the accumulating physical toll of adjusting patients at high volume, including a shoulder injury and a hip avulsion fracture he didn't even realize had happened. The moment in 2021 when he finally walked away from the practice he'd built his entire identity around, and what it felt like to "burn it down" rather than transition slowly. How he discovered breathwork, HeartMath, and heart rate variability (HRV) biofeedback in 2015 — and why, as a doctor, he needed the science behind it before he could fully trust what he was experiencing. The devastating loss of his childhood friend Dave, who died suddenly of a heart attack from what looked like classic chronic, unmanaged stress — and how that loss reinforced for Dr. Moore that nervous system regulation isn't just about calm and focus, it's life or death. His current part-time practice serving a Spanish-speaking, underserved community — where, without a shared language, he found that care communicated through hands and presence needed no words at all. The "five Ps" framework — philosophy and purpose as causes, versus psychology, procedures, and profit as effects — and why so many providers unknowingly build their practice backwards. His work now teaching high-achieving professionals and chiropractors to regulate their nervous systems on demand through breathwork and HRV-based biofeedback, so they can sustain high performance without burning out the way he did. A lightning round covering his philosophy of healing in one word (love), the daily habit that's had the biggest impact on his life (prayer), and finishing the sentences: "Healing begins when... you let it" and "Care is... love." About Dr. David Moore Dr. David Moore spent 25 years as a chiropractor, going completely all-in on his profession the way he does everything in his life. He built a practice, treated thousands of patients, wrote a book called The Chiropractic Evolution, hosted a community health show, and poured himself into helping people live pain-free, drug-free, and fully alive. But somewhere along the way, chasing goals that looked right on the outside, he stopped listening to his own body — and after 25 years, he walked away, not by choice, but by necessity. What he found on the other side was breathwork, heart rate variability, and autonomic nervous system regulation. Dr. Dave now teaches high-achieving professionals and chiropractors how to regulate their nervous systems using breathwork and HRV-based biofeedback — the same tools that helped him rebuild after burnout, chronic pain, and a complete identity overhaul. He is a certified HeartMath instructor and the founder of the Brain Body Breathing Academy. Connect with Dr. David Moore Website: thecoherencecoach.com Free Community: skool.com/thecoherencecoach/about Facebook: facebook.com/dr.david.moore If this conversation resonated with you, share it with someone who needs to hear it — that's how we put the care back into healthcare, one conversation at a time.

    Cracked Open: Dr. David Moore, DC, on Burnout, Breathwork & Finding His Own Purpose
  5. Oct 5

    Sense, Sway, Sync: Tilly Lawrence, BSN, RN, on the Vagus Nerve, Co-Regulation & Learning to Be Human

    On this episode of The Care2Grow Show®, Dr. Larry Arbeitman welcomes Tilly Lawrence, BSN, RN — a scientist, futurist, and former PICU/NICU nurse who led a federally funded virtual interventional trial using vagal nerve modulation and sound augmentation technology to help alleviate symptoms of long COVID. She's the creator of Vagal Intelligence and the Sense. Sway. Sync. methodology, and will share her journey on the TEDx Bessies Creek stage this summer under the theme "Be Human." In this episode, they discuss: Tilly's decade in PICU and NICU nursing, the burnout that came from repeatedly running codes on critically ill children with no time to process, and why she eventually moved into clinical research. The personal crisis that changed everything: her daughter's years-long battle with cyclic vomiting episodes, and how Tilly's own PICU-trained "emergency mode" nervous system was unintentionally being transferred to her daughter during care. How learning the polyvagal theory and consciously shifting her own nervous system state cut her daughter's six-day episodes down to a day and a half — a real-world example of how a caregiver's physiological state shapes the person they're caring for. A clear breakdown of the three states of the polyvagal theory: ventral vagal (safe, open, able to heal), fight-or-flight activation, and dorsal vagal shutdown (freeze, numbness, disassociation) — and why so many patients arrive already stuck in one of the latter two. Her Sense. Sway. Sync. framework: how providers can regulate their own nervous system first (sense), use presence and body language to help shift a patient's physiology (sway), and ultimately reach a state of true co-regulation with the patient (sync). Why provider self-regulation isn't a soft skill but a clinical tool — backed by research from Compassionomics showing a 40-second compassionate statement measurably reduced anxiety in oncology patients. A real example of disconnected, rushed care in action, and why "fast food healthcare" leaves both patients and staff dysregulated. Her upcoming TEDx Bessies Creek talk (July 18) on the theme "Be Human," and her vision for bringing Vagal Intelligence to practitioners, educators, and school systems. A lightning round covering her care philosophy in one word (believing), the person who's shaped how she cares (her father), and finishing the sentence: "Care is... believing." About Tilly Lawrence, BSN, RN Tilly Lawrence, BSN, RN, is a scientist, futurist, and former PICU nurse who successfully led a federally funded decentralized/virtual interventional trial using vagal nerve modulation and sound augmentation technology to help alleviate some of the 200+ symptoms of long COVID. She is the creator of Vagal Intelligence, a framework for the science of human co-regulation, and the Sense. Sway. Sync. methodology that puts it into daily practice. She is also a mother of three, whose own experience has shaped and reframed how she understands care, resonance, and what it truly means to be human. Tilly will share her journey to Vagal Intelligence on the TEDx Bessies Creek stage this summer, under the theme "Be Human." Connect with Tilly Lawrence Website: vagalintelligence.com Instagram: @tillylawrence LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/tillylawrence Email: tillylawrence818@gmail.com If this conversation resonated with you, share it with someone who needs to hear it — that's how we put the care back into healthcare, one conversation at a time.

    Sense, Sway, Sync: Tilly Lawrence, BSN, RN, on the Vagus Nerve, Co-Regulation & Learning to Be Human
  6. Sep 28

    Take Off the Doctor Mask: Dr. Melissa Longo, DC, on Authenticity, Self-Care & Building a Practice That's Actually Yours

    On this episode of The Care2Grow Show®, Dr. Larry Arbeitman welcomes Dr. Melissa Longo — a family chiropractor since 2002, sought-after mentor and coach, and host of the top-rated podcast Rock Star Doctor Life. Dr. Longo has spent her career serving patients directly while also empowering doctors to build practices — and lives — that actually fit who they are. In this episode, they discuss: Dr. Longo's origin story — a tingling hand and a single conversation that sent her straight to chiropractic college before she'd even left the appointment. How she defines care: compassion, empathy, and genuinely listening to the human in front of you, not just treating them as a number or a means to grow the practice. Why trust has to be built before healing can happen, and how small moments — eye contact, open body language, a 30-second recap of what a patient just told you — build that trust faster than any script. The research behind it: patients' anxiety drops significantly when a doctor lets them talk for just 40 seconds, yet most doctors cut patients off after only 17. Why she coaches with frameworks instead of scripts, and how she helps doctors build practices around their own personality, family life, and values instead of a one-size-fits-all model. Provider self-care and energy protection — her "vending machine" and "colander, not container" metaphors for staying full enough to keep giving, including her own practice of smudging the office to clear heavy energy between patients. The moment her own practice broke through a plateau: a colleague's simple observation that she was hiding behind a "doctor mask," and what happened once she started showing up authentically instead. A patient story about John, a 71-year-old farmer who regained his strength and confidence after Dr. Longo simply listened and encouraged him to return to something he loved — weightlifting. The origin of the Rock Star Doctor Life podcast, and why she believes today's doctors need permission to build a practice — and a life — that doesn't look like anyone else's. A lightning round covering her care philosophy in one word (fun), the person who's shaped how she cares (Danielle LaPorte), and finishing the sentence: "Care is... integral to building a practice that is prosperous." About Dr. Melissa Longo Since starting a successful private practice in 2002, Dr. Melissa Longo has made it her business to empower other doctors in their lives and careers — literally. A fearless entrepreneur and sought-after mentor and coach, Dr. Melissa hosts the top-rated podcast Rock Star Doctor Life and has been a featured speaker on stages and within programs for healthcare professionals. A relentless creator, she has learned the ins and outs of branding for success and used that knowledge to empower doctors to build brands and businesses that last. Her work with doctors one-on-one and in group formats has given her a unique view across the landscape of health professionals looking to build their practices, expand online, and stay healthy in the process. Connect with Dr. Melissa Longo Website: www.drmelissalongo.com Podcast: www.rockstardoctorlife.com Instagram: @drmelissalongo YouTube: youtube.com/@drmelissalongo Email: drm@drmelissalongo.com If this conversation resonated with you, share it with someone who needs to hear it — that's how we put the care back into healthcare, one conversation at a time.

    Take Off the Doctor Mask: Dr. Melissa Longo, DC, on Authenticity, Self-Care & Building a Practice That's Actually Yours
  7. Sep 20

    Profits with Purpose: Bob Quintana on Enlightened Entrepreneurship, Culture & Curing Burnout

    On this episode of The Care2Grow Show®, Dr. Larry Arbeitman welcomes a dear friend — and the show's first non-healthcare guest — Bob Quintana. A veteran entrepreneur and business advisor with over 35 years helping Fortune 500 leaders and startup CEOs, Bob has led a green energy company from startup to a $100 million IPO and a $500+ million exit, advised billion-dollar companies including JP Morgan, Ford, and Cisco, and is the author of the upcoming book Enlightened Entrepreneurship. In this episode, they discuss: Why care and compassion aren't "soft skills" — Bob makes the case that they're the actual foundation of every high-performing, high-impact organization, in healthcare and far beyond it. The real story behind Bob's biggest success and the disillusionment that followed — leading a green energy company to a nine-figure exit, only to find himself unfulfilled and searching for answers once it was over. What happened to that company's culture once it went public and became beholden to quarterly numbers — and the contrasting example of Barry-Wehmiller, a $3.6 billion company built almost entirely on a culture of care. Bob's "core guiding principles" framework — core purpose, core vision, core mission, and core values — and why most organizations end up with these by accident instead of by design. The idea behind "Enlightened Entrepreneurship" — bridging higher consciousness with high performance, and why Bob believes purpose and profit aren't in competition, they're multipliers of each other. How Dr. Larry brought this framework to life in his own practice, including a daily team affirmation of purpose, mission, and values that's now displayed for patients — and the surprising reaction patients had when they finally saw it. Why younger generations, especially Gen Z, are turning down jobs that don't align with their personal values — and what that means for the future of leadership in every industry. A lightning round covering Bob's care philosophy in one word (enlightenment), the spiritual teacher who's shaped how he leads (Paramahansa Yogananda), and finishing the sentence: "Care is... foundational." About Bob Quintana Bob Quintana is a seasoned entrepreneur, business advisor, and thought leader who has spent over 35 years helping Fortune 500 leaders, startup CEOs, and their organizations achieve extraordinary results by aligning profits with purpose. A former #1 global franchise partner with Tony Robbins, he led a green-energy company that scaled from startup to a $100 million IPO and over a $500 million exit, and has served as a founding advisor to billion-dollar tech companies. Through his Enlightened Entrepreneurship principles, programs, book, and podcast, Bob teaches leaders how to build businesses that generate massive positive impact for all stakeholders while simultaneously creating exponential profits, freedom, and fulfillment. Connect with Bob Quintana Website: bobquintana.com Podcast: The Enlightened Entrepreneurship Podcast LinkedIn: Bob Quintana Book: Enlightened Entrepreneurship (available soon) If this conversation resonated with you, share it with someone who needs to hear it — that's how we put the care back into healthcare, and business, one conversation at a time.

    Profits with Purpose: Bob Quintana on Enlightened Entrepreneurship, Culture & Curing Burnout
  8. Sep 16

    The I Care Call: Dr. George Gertner, DC, on Service, Provider Burnout & Building a 7-Figure Cash-Based Practice

    On this episode of The Care2Grow Show®, Dr. Larry Arbeitman welcomes a dear friend of over 25 years, Dr. George Gertner — founder of Upper Cervical Chiropractic of New York in White Plains. Since meeting as students in the late '90s, the two have mentored, coached, and grown alongside each other, and Dr. Gertner has gone on to build one of the largest upper cervical practices in the world, collecting seven figures annually on a fully cash-based model for over two decades. In this episode, they discuss: Dr. Gertner's origin story — a severe low back injury that led him to upper cervical care, and how a single visit with a mentor changed the entire trajectory of his career. Why he leads with the word "service" instead of "helping" or "fixing" — and how that single shift in language changes the entire power dynamic between provider and patient. How he builds a care-first culture with his team, including starting every day with a group huddle and reciting their three-paragraph mission statement out loud, by memory. The "I Care Call" — his practice of personally following up with every new patient the next day, and why handing out his personal cell number after 20+ years has never been abused, only appreciated. How intentional patient appreciation events like "Turkey Tuesday" (100 free turkeys before Thanksgiving) and "Chiro de Mayo" build community, generate word-of-mouth referrals, and lower the barrier for new patients to walk through the door. Why he believes the antidote to provider burnout isn't stepping back — it's leaning further into purpose and reconnecting with why you started in the first place. His personal self-care routine — a 4:30am wake-up, meditation, scripture, and a workout, every single day — that has sustained his energy and passion for 24+ years without burning out. A lightning round covering his care philosophy in one word (service), the mentor's line that shaped his career ("nobody cares how much you know until they know how much you care"), and finishing the sentence: "Care is... understanding." About Dr. George Gertner Dr. George Gertner is the founder and owner of Upper Cervical Chiropractic of New York in White Plains, NY. A graduate of Hofstra University and Life University, he has spent more than two decades building one of the largest upper cervical chiropractic practices in the world on a fully cash-based, care-first model. Known for his deep commitment to service, team culture, and patient connection, Dr. Gertner is a respected mentor in the chiropractic profession and a longtime friend and collaborator of Dr. Larry Arbeitman. If this conversation resonated with you, share it with someone who needs to hear it — that's how we put the care back into healthcare, one conversation at a time.

    The I Care Call: Dr. George Gertner, DC, on Service, Provider Burnout & Building a 7-Figure Cash-Based Practice

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The Care2Grow Show is a podcast where real conversations with purpose-driven practitioners reveal what it truly means to lead with care. What to expect: Candid interviews with successful chiropractors and healthcare providers to learn how they incorporate "care" into their patient care. Insights into the mindset shifts and pivotal moments that changed their careers Practical tools for building trust, growing sustainably, and staying aligned. A deeper look at the care-first philosophy in real-world practice: Whether you're looking for inspiration, tactical strategies, or a reminder of why you started, this podcast is designed to nourish your mind, align your mission, and reignite your passion for practice.