Subtitle: And, How Can We Be More Like Dolly and Less Like Donald? In this episode of All American Why, Michael asks why America still organizes so much of working life around systems designed generations ago. From the 40-hour workweek and the decline of organized labor to remote work, employee ownership, burnout, healthcare, workplace flexibility, and the rise of artificial intelligence, Michael explores who benefits when workers become more productive and whether work should demand quite so much of our lives. Michael then talks with Marina Martinez-Bateman about human-centered management, workers' rights, organizational power, anti-racism, restorative justice, capitalism, and what it might look like to build workplaces differently. Together, they explore how employers can balance accountability with autonomy, profitability with humanity, and the needs of organizations with the dignity and lives of the people who make them work. "Don’t get so busy making a living that you forget to make a life.” -Dolly Parton Guest InformationMarina Martinez-Bateman, Founder & CEO of New Coyote Consulting Marina's work focuses on human-centered management, workers' rights, anti-racism, restorative justice, organizational power, equity, and building institutions differently. Marina also teaches Decolonizing Management, a program examining hierarchy, capitalism, anti-Blackness, budgeting, hiring, firing, accountability, and power inside organizations. Check out all of their workshops! Recording and ProductionRecorded at: Michael’s Office in SE Portland, OregonOriginal Music: Rainezra (@rainezra) and Vews (@pointofvews)Audio Editing by: Kye Gilmer (@residual_audio) Learn More / SourcesThe following materials were referenced or informed this episode. Links are provided for transparency and further reading. 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