What actually makes someone an entrepreneur? In this episode of LivLive, Dave reconnects with Nik Rokop, longtime entrepreneurship educator, founder, mentor, and former director of the Knapp Entrepreneurship Center at Illinois Tech. Nik was never technically one of Dave’s professors—but his influence during Dave’s graduate studies at IIT went far beyond the classroom. When a young architecture student showed up with an idea for wirelessly powering a home, Nik connected him with electrical engineers, patent attorneys, business resources, and experts across the university. The invention never became a business, but the experience helped shape how Dave would eventually think about entrepreneurship and build LivCo. That story becomes the jumping-off point for a much bigger conversation about how entrepreneurs actually learn. Nik explains why he doesn't believe in doing the work for entrepreneurs, why building a network can be more valuable than having all the answers yourself, and why entrepreneurship requires curiosity, resilience, experimentation, and a willingness to act without knowing exactly where you'll end up. Dave and Nik explore venture capital and bootstrapping, the difference between entrepreneurs and small-business owners, whether entrepreneurship can actually be taught, and the role that family, childhood experiences, education, mentors, and even failure play in creating an entrepreneurial mindset. They also dig into the realities of running a business: cash flow, growth, debt, risk, hiring, decision-making, and the constant challenge of figuring out what comes next. After years of teaching entrepreneurship, Nik has now retired from academia and returned to where he started—as a founder himself. It’s a wide-ranging conversation about entrepreneurship not as a job title, but as a way of thinking: find problems, connect ideas and people, create value, learn constantly, and keep moving forward. Chapters: 00:00 — Meet Nik Rokop01:30 — From Founder to Professor05:30 — How Dave & Nik Met08:15 — Connecting Across Disciplines11:30 — Funding a Business16:15 — What Makes an Entrepreneur?20:30 — Risk & Entrepreneurship23:30 — Where Entrepreneurs Come From27:30 — Growing Up Entrepreneurial31:30 — Can Entrepreneurship Be Taught?35:30 — Learning by Doing38:00 — Building a Lasting Business42:30 — Knowing When to Pivot46:30 — Growth, Debt & Cash Flow50:00 — The Entrepreneurial Mindset54:00 — Mentors, Networks & Experience58:00 — Nik’s Next Chapter1:02:00 — Final Thoughts