Content note: The conversation deals directly with death, military aviation loss, grief, and the long process of healing that follows. It is a heavy discussion, but it is also one about love, resilience, empathy, service, advocacy, and learning how to move forward while continuing to honor those we have lost. On June 8, 2022, Swift 1-1, an MV-22B Osprey, crashed in eastern California following a mechanical failure, taking the lives of five United States Marines. In this episode, Bubba sits down with Amber Sax, Gold Star widow of Captain John Sax and founder of the Capt Sax Foundation, to remember John as a husband, father, Marine, and lifelong aviator. Amber shares the ripple effects of a military aviation mishap, including the impact on surviving families, squadron members, first responders, and the aviators who must continue flying. She also reflects on the importance of giving people permission to grieve, releasing guilt without releasing love, and understanding that moving forward does not mean forgetting. The conversation concludes with Amber’s work through the Capt Sax Foundation, which provides scholarships to aspiring pilots, maintainers, engineers, air traffic controllers, transitioning service members, and others pursuing careers in aviation. The foundation has awarded more than $80,000 in scholarships and hopes to surpass $100,000 this year. Amber personally covers its operating expenses so that every donated dollar can go directly to scholarship recipients. Learn more about the Capt Sax Foundation or make a donation: CaptSaxFoundation.org Key takeaway: One of the most meaningful ways we can honor those we have lost is by living fully, serving others, and carrying their legacy forward. Chapters 00:00 — A Different Kind of Conversation A content note on military loss, grief, aviation mishaps, and healing. 02:40 — Meet Amber Sax 03:10 — How Amber and John Met 04:59 — John’s Lifelong Dream of Flying 09:35 — The Husband, Father, and Marine Behind the Pilot 12:28 — Life Before and After Swift 1-1 16:56 — Remembering More Than the Final Moment 22:13 — The Ripple Effects of an Aviation Mishap 31:56 — Moving Forward Without Moving On 35:46 — Finding Support in the Gold Star Community 40:13 — Resilience, Empathy, and Permission to Heal 44:22 — Building the Capt Sax Foundation 51:41 — Advocacy and Learning to Use Your Voice 1:00:21 — Leading with Empathy 1:01:43 — How to Support the Capt Sax Foundation