Odys Podcast: The High Stakes Growth Show

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In high-stakes markets, growth isn’t luck - it’s strategy. Odys Podcast: The High-Stakes Growth Show explores how digital businesses are built, scaled, acquired, and exited in some of the most competitive industries online. Hosted by Aneta Samkoff, the show features candid conversations with founders, operators, investors, and growth leaders sharing strategies rarely discussed publicly. Expect practical insights on: • scaling traffic, revenue, and digital assets • SEO and performance-driven growth • acquisitions and exits • brand protection and market positioning • crypto, Web3, and emerging digital markets From iGaming and affiliate ecosystems to crypto and digital asset investing, each episode breaks down the real mechanics behind sustainable growth in brutal markets. Produced by Odys Global, a blue-ocean marketing partner helping high-growth companies build durable competitive advantage.

  1. 4d ago

    China’s SEO Gold Rush: Why Chinese Companies Need Western SEO | JP Zhang

    China’s “go global” movement is creating an SEO market most Western agencies barely see. In this episode of Odys Podcast: The High-Stakes Growth Show, Aneta Samkoff meets in Shenzhen with JP Zhang, founder of Shenzhen SEO Conference, to understand why Chinese companies are increasingly looking to Google, international SEO and AI search to acquire customers outside China. JP breaks down the enormous gap between companies trying to expand globally and the relatively small pool of local SEO expertise available to help them. He shares what Chinese businesses are actually spending on SEO, why Western agencies are already winning Chinese clients, and why he believes China represents a new blue-ocean opportunity for international marketers. The conversation also challenges several conventional SEO assumptions. JP explains why mass-translating a small English site into hundreds of pages can quickly become a Google problem, and why Chinese companies’ famous execution speed is both a competitive advantage and a potential liability. They also discuss programmatic SEO, international product-market fit, B2B manufacturing, link-building budgets, the changing customer journey, AI visibility and JP’s contrarian view that GEO and LLMO are ultimately still part of SEO. Most importantly, JP explains why he doesn’t see Chinese companies and Western SEOs primarily as competitors. His message is much simpler: China has the products, manufacturing capability and execution speed. But many companies still need Western expertise in marketing, branding, sales and international search. For agencies and SEOs looking for the next underserved market, that gap may be one worth paying attention to.

    China’s SEO Gold Rush: Why Chinese Companies Need Western SEO | JP Zhang

  2. Oct 7

    Why Bad Schema Is Worse Than No Schema: Structured Data Masterclass | Peter Macinković, Stake

    Bad schema can be worse than no schema at all: when structured data misrepresents a page, Google may understand the site better without the SEO intervention. Peter Macinković explains how schema markup, entity SEO and structured data should actually work together, why chasing rich results can damage search intent, and why Organization, Website and WebPage schema form a foundation that many sites still skip. Peter also breaks down how Stake builds schema at scale, how subjectOf can strengthen entity relationships, and why the brand can rank for highly competitive terms without conventional keyword optimization on the ranking page. He shares measurable examples too, including a historical event-schema implementation where CTR increased from roughly 7–12% to 15–25%, plus how better site relationships can contribute to sitelinks and additional SERP real estate. Peter leads SEO at Stake and works with structured data across a large, highly dynamic platform containing casino games, sporting events and rapidly changing pages. Listen if you work in technical SEO, e-commerce, igaming, affiliate SEO or any large website where Google understanding your content correctly matters.

    Why Bad Schema Is Worse Than No Schema: Structured Data Masterclass | Peter Macinković, Stake

  3. Sep 30

    Why Legitimate High-Risk Businesses Lose Their Bank Accounts | Julian Goffin, Alunafi

    A legitimate business opened a new bank account in the morning. A 9 million transaction arrived. By lunchtime, the account was closed. For companies operating in iGaming, crypto, forex and other industries banks classify as high risk, losing a banking relationship isn't just an inconvenience - it can stop incoming payments, supplier payments and potentially the entire business. Julian Goffin, Founder and CEO of Alunafi, explains why banks reject or de-bank businesses, why becoming more successful can actually make your banking risk worse, and what happens operationally when an account suddenly disappears. We discuss the three characteristics that often trigger additional scrutiny - high transaction volumes, cross-border payments and chargebacks - and why companies need to diversify their banking infrastructure instead of relying on a single institution. Julian also explains how payments can be rejected because of the counterparty rather than your own company, why communication during onboarding matters, and where stablecoins can solve some of the cost and speed problems of international payments. Listen if you operate in iGaming, crypto, fintech, forex or any international business where losing access to your money - even temporarily - could become an existential problem.

  4. Sep 23

    How to Value a Website Before You Buy It: SEO, Traffic & Acquisition Risk | Maja Jovančević & Gertrud Karu, Odys Mentors

    Buying an existing website can shortcut years of building traffic, authority and historical data from scratch. But the numbers you see before an acquisition don't necessarily tell you what you're really buying. In this episode, SEO consultant Maja Jovančević and Gertrud Karu, Managing Director of Odys Mentors, explore website acquisition, digital asset valuation and the due diligence behind buying an established online business. Maja has been involved in multiple website acquisitions, from the initial analysis through integration and growth. She explains why evaluating an acquisition goes far beyond today's traffic numbers: How much is the website really worth? Is the traffic durable? Can you continue growing it? Does the asset actually fit the business you're trying to build? We also discuss why website acquisition can solve one of the biggest problems in organic growth — speed. An established website can bring existing search visibility, customers and historical data, which Maja argues becomes particularly interesting in the age of AI. The conversation also introduces Odys Mentors and Maja's website acquisition and valuation program, designed to give buyers and sellers ongoing access to experience gained from seeing acquisitions succeed, struggle and fail after the deal is done. Listen if you're an SEO, founder, affiliate, investor or operator considering buying, selling or evaluating an online business — or if you've ever wondered whether acquiring an existing website could be a faster growth strategy than building one from zero.

  5. Sep 16

    Why Ranking #1 on Google Is Becoming a Losing Game | Terry Kyle, WPX

    What if ranking #1 on Google is no longer the best use of an SEO team's resources? Terry Kyle, co-founder and CEO of WPX, argues that SEO has become too Google-focused. Instead of treating rankings as the objective, he builds what he calls traffic-generating assets: search properties, tools, video, alternative engines and other ways of reaching the same customer. Terry explains why he sees short-form video as a major traffic opportunity, why Bing deserves more attention, and how “goal completion SEO” can allow highly useful pages to compete with much stronger domains. He also breaks down demographic SEO - targeting other interests of the same audience rather than competing for the most obvious keywords - and explains why non-English SEO can offer radically weaker competition. Then we get into AI: the explosion of AI visibility tools, the long game of LLM citations, his Claude Council workflow, using multiple models rather than becoming loyal to one, and why Gemini has become one of his favourite tools for technical SEO and content analysis. Listen if you want an SEO strategy built around generating traffic rather than simply reporting rankings.

  6. Sep 9

    SEO Ranking Factors 2026: Why User Satisfaction Beats Tactics | Aleyda Solís

    Google increasingly wants to become the middleman. AI Overviews are absorbing informational searches. Generic affiliate and marketplace content is being squeezed. And Aleyda Solís says SEOs are still obsessing over the wrong thing. Her answer to the biggest ranking-factor question in 2026 is deceptively simple: user satisfaction. In this conversation, Aleyda explains what she saw in Google's 2026 updates, why some affiliate sites continue to grow while other “middlemen” lose visibility, and why deep research and real experience still create an advantage even as AI answers more searches directly. We get into SEO ranking factors, E-E-A-T, SEO vs GEO, AI Search attribution, AI citations, Reddit, informational content and search beyond Google. Aleyda explains why AI-driven customers can disappear into “Direct” traffic, why many AI citations come from third-party websites and social platforms, and why chasing Reddit citations with fake reviews is exactly the kind of short-term SEO thinking she believes will fail. Then we get into AI-generated content itself: why scaled AI content can grow before it tanks, where LLMs genuinely improve SEO workflows, and why replacing an experienced SEO operation with three prompts misunderstands what the difficult part of SEO actually is. For Aleyda, SEO eventually stops being a knowledge problem and becomes an execution problem — aligning developers, content teams, digital PR, business priorities and real user needs. And her final argument is bigger than Google: SEO is search optimization wherever discovery happens - Google, AI platforms, YouTube, TikTok, Instagram, Reddit and whatever comes next. Listen if you work in SEO, affiliate marketing, ecommerce, SaaS, content, AI Search or organic growth and want to understand what is actually worth optimizing for next.

  7. Sep 2

    How Binance Took 50% of Crypto Search: SEO Across 100M+ URLs | Dinesh Sivapragsam, Binance

    Binance manages more than 100 million URLs and has grown from roughly 10% to 50–55% share of voice across crypto search. In this episode, Dinesh Sivapragsam, Head of Organic Growth and SEO at Binance, explains what SEO actually looks like when conventional playbooks stop working at enormous scale. He breaks down how Binance built SEO into a major acquisition channel, how a relatively small team prioritizes more than 100 million URLs, and why the speed that drives growth can eventually create technical SEO problems involving duplicate content, canonicals, redirects and discontinued pages. Dinesh also explains why link building remains one of Binance’s ranking accelerators, why strong pages can still be pushed from the top ten toward position one with links, and how scaling link acquisition created an entirely different operational challenge: reviewing thousands of articles for quality and compliance. We also get into AI and SEO. Dinesh explains what Binance now automates, why headlines and introductions still need human judgment, and why he believes today’s general-purpose LLMs are not yet SEO specialists. International SEO becomes another major part of the conversation. Binance found roughly 16,000 variations around searches for buying crypto and Bitcoin in Latin America, while in Turkey a seemingly small product change — adding comments to a page — dramatically changed performance. And unlike SEO teams that report primarily on rankings and traffic, Binance connects organic pages to registrations, user value and revenue, giving the C-suite a direct financial view of SEO performance. Finally, Dinesh explains how Binance approaches negative backlinks, why the team doesn’t automatically try to create a perfectly clean link profile, and what navigating roughly 18 Google core updates has taught him about reacting too quickly to algorithm volatility. Listen if you work in enterprise SEO, technical SEO, international SEO, programmatic SEO, affiliate marketing or organic growth — especially if you’re trying to understand what changes when SEO moves from hundreds of pages to tens of millions.

  8. Aug 26

    Why AI Content Stops Ranking: What 10,937 Pages Revealed | Kyle Roof, PageOptimizer Pro

    AI made producing content almost free. It did not make ranking almost free. Kyle Roof and the PageOptimizer Pro team analyzed 10,937 webpages being actively optimized for search. The median score was just 33.1 out of 100, and 46.8% landed below 25 - the range Kyle describes as effectively invisible in competitive search. The conversation examines what those pages were missing and why that matters in an AI-content economy. Kyle explains why LLMs can produce fluent writing while missing basic on-page signals, why contextual terms matter more than most AI workflows account for, why Google doesn't necessarily need an AI-content detector, and how mass publishing weak pages may create a much larger site-wide problem. We also discuss why commercial landing pages can be worse optimized than blog content, what happens when an agency sells content production instead of optimization, why Kyle believes E-E-A-T acts more like a minimum standard than a ranking boost, and what to do with hundreds of existing articles that aren't performing. Listen if you run SEO, manage a content team, operate an affiliate or publishing site, use AI to produce content at scale, or are responsible for organic growth and want to know whether your content operation is actually building an asset.

    Why AI Content Stops Ranking: What 10,937 Pages Revealed | Kyle Roof, PageOptimizer Pro
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In high-stakes markets, growth isn’t luck - it’s strategy. Odys Podcast: The High-Stakes Growth Show explores how digital businesses are built, scaled, acquired, and exited in some of the most competitive industries online. Hosted by Aneta Samkoff, the show features candid conversations with founders, operators, investors, and growth leaders sharing strategies rarely discussed publicly. Expect practical insights on: • scaling traffic, revenue, and digital assets • SEO and performance-driven growth • acquisitions and exits • brand protection and market positioning • crypto, Web3, and emerging digital markets From iGaming and affiliate ecosystems to crypto and digital asset investing, each episode breaks down the real mechanics behind sustainable growth in brutal markets. Produced by Odys Global, a blue-ocean marketing partner helping high-growth companies build durable competitive advantage.

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