IBIs Digital Nomad Stories

Ibi Malik

Real conversations with successful nomads who've cracked the code on location-independent income. Strategic insights on how they transitioned, what income streams they built, and what they wish they'd known earlier.

  1. 1d ago

    Yelena McElwain: The 10-Year Retiree

    Guest: Yelena McElwainCareer: Retired Data AnalystBased: NomadicInstagram: @meditationcompassWebsite: www.meditation-compass.com   Episode DescriptionYelena McElwain discovered FIRE (Financial Independence, Retire Early) at 25 when she read Tim Ferriss's "The Four Hour Workweek." But she didn't want to start a business like Ferriss did. Instead, she kept working as a data analyst, saved intentionally, and hit her financial independence number in ten years. Not because she was aiming for exactly ten years, but because she had a concrete target based on her spending: roughly 200 times her monthly expenses, or 25 times her annual spending. When the 4% rule is working in your favour, that's your ticket out. She didn't quit immediately when she hit her number. She continued working for another 3-4 years while projects started shifting in directions she didn't want to go. Then she left, travelled full-time for three years, settled in Denver for another three, and now she dives on shipwrecks, practises yoga, and teaches meditation. She teaches Instinctive Meditation, a practice rooted in The Radiance Sutras, honouring individual nature rather than forcing rigid techniques. Here's the twist that breaks all the assumptions about early retirement: she spends less now than when she was working. Her childhood in 1990s Russia taught her frugality, her Russian parents prepared her to always be ready, and that foundation made saving as natural as breathing. This is not a story about luck. It's a spreadsheet equation anyone can solve if they treat freedom as a number rather than a fantasy.   Timestamps 00:00-00:37 Introduction 00:37-01:05 Ibi's intro of Yelena, FIRE formula explanation 01:05-01:34 The 4% rule, ten-year journey, diving and meditation 01:34-01:45 Conversation beginning 01:45-02:00 How long nomadic, six years almost 02:00-03:00 Three years full-time nomad, three years half-time 03:00-03:30 Quit job whilst full-time nomading, got tired of travel, moved to Denver 03:30-04:30 Countries visited, Mexico, Colombia, Vietnam, Bali 04:30-05:45 Average 10-12 countries per year, one month each 05:45-06:24 Dive master training, diving on shipwrecks 06:24-07:21 Discovered FIRE at 25, Tim Ferriss "Four Hour Workweek" 07:21-08:00 FIRE wasn't earth-shattering initially, unsure if it was for her 08:00-08:40 Tim Ferriss business path versus saving path 08:40-09:50 Data analysis career, studied economics 09:50-10:15 Data science explosion, right place right time 10:15-11:00 FIRE inspiration, saving mentality, not becoming big spender 11:00-12:00 Russian childhood foundation, frugality mindset 12:00-13:00 Set monetary target based on spending 13:00-14:30 The 4% rule explained, 200 times monthly spending 14:30-15:30 Portfolio growth assumptions, inflation adjustments 15:30-16:30 Real estate versus stock market investments 16:30-17:30 Ten-year saving journey, reaching financial independence goal 17:30-18:30 Continued working 3-4 years after hitting number 18:30-19:30 Projects not going in desired direction, decision to quit 19:30-20:30 Travelling whilst still working, remote work flexibility 20:30-21:30 First month or two identity crisis after retiring 21:30-22:30 "Who am I?" question, fear and confusion alongside excitement 22:30-23:30 Importance of hobbies and interests before retirement 23:30-24:30 Spending less in retirement than when working 24:30-25:30 Slower travel, volunteering, dive master training 25:30-26:30 Under-spending target provides more security 26:30-27:30 Travel still main passion 27:30-28:30 Teaching meditation to digital nomads and nomad community 28:30-29:30 Instinctive Meditation practice, The Radiance Sutras, Dr. Lorin Roche 29:30-30:30 Two passions going forward, yoga and meditation, travel 30:30-31:30 What to do when grown up, following passions unclear but clear 31:30-32:17 Closing remarks   About This PodcastReal conversations with successful digital nomads who've built sustainable location-independent income. Strategic insights on how they transitioned, what income streams they built, and what they wish they'd known earlier. No travel tips or lifestyle fluff. HostIbi Malik helps ambitious professionals transition to nomadic careers without income sacrifice. To watch the video follow this link: https://youtu.be/1RPghL9albQ  Follow for weekly episodes featuring professionals who've successfully built nomadic income streams. --- **Learn More About Yelena's Work**   Yelena teaches **Instinctive Meditation**, a practice that honours your individual nature rather than forcing you into one rigid technique. Rather than fighting your thoughts or restlessness, you learn to work with your body's own meditative instincts, so practice becomes nourishing and sustainable. The work is rooted in **The Radiance Sutras**, Dr. Lorin Roche's version of an ancient tantric text offering 112 doorways into meditation through breath, the senses, and everyday experience. - Instagram: @meditationcompass - Website: www.meditation-compass.com - Learn about Instinctive Meditation: https://www.meditation-compass.com/what-is-instinctive-meditation - Blog: https://www.meditation-compass.com/blog - Newsletter signup available on the main page --- Episode length: ~32 minutesPublished: 12th June 2026Episode #15   The 10-Year Retiree Who Achieved Financial Freedom Through Patience Today I had the honour of sitting down with one of the youngest retirees I've ever met. As soon as I heard a glimpse of her story, I knew this was something the listeners needed to hear. Sitting in the usual French chateau, I got ready to take some notes and listen to Yelena's success. Yelena McElwain doesn't have to work anymore. Not because she won the lottery or inherited money or sold a startup. Because she spent ten years saving intentionally and now lives off passive income from investments. She's financially free, spends her time diving, practising yoga, teaching meditation, and travelling without checking her bank account nervously. She's in what most people would call the prime working years of their career. The years when you're supposed to be climbing the ladder, chasing promotions, building your CV. Instead, she's done. She hit her number, quit her job, and stepped off the treadmill entirely. When I ask her how it feels, she says simply, "Good." That's Yelena. Calm. Measured. No dramatic story about burnout or escaping the corporate hellscape. Just a quiet, methodical approach to building freedom, and then actually using it.   The Book That Started Everything It began with a book. She was about 25, already working her second job in data analysis, fairly established in her career. Someone recommended Tim Ferriss's "The Four Hour Workweek," and she read it with interest but not earth-shattering revelation. "When I first learned about it, it wasn't like an earth shattering thing, like because I wasn't sure that I could do it. Like I wasn't sure that it was for me." Ferriss focuses on starting your own business to achieve what's now called FIRE: Financial Independence, Retire Early. Build something, automate it, work four hours a week maintaining it, spend the rest on whatever you want. That path didn't appeal to Yelena. She wasn't interested in starting a business or doing what Ferriss did. But as she kept reading, kept discovering blogs and posts about different pathways to the same goal, she realised something crucial. You don't need to be an entrepreneur. You can work a normal job, focus on the saving side rather than the business creation side, and still get there. "I kind of began to realize that maybe this is something that I'm interested in." The acronym FIRE came later, but the concept was already forming. Save aggressively. Invest wisely. Build passive income. Eventually reach a point where you don't need to work anymore. It wasn't a lightning bolt moment. It was a slow realisation that this might actually be possible for her.   The Russian Foundation Saving came naturally to Yelena. Not because she was born disciplined, but because of how she grew up. She lived in Russia until she was ten. The 1990s. Economic collapses, political instability, uncertainty everywhere. Her family never had much money, and there was always this underlying idea of being prepared for whatever comes next. "I grew up in Russia until I was ten. And so yeah, we never had a lot of money. I think there was always like this idea of like being ready for whatever comes." Her parents taught her to be frugal. Not miserly, but simply not living paycheque to paycheque. Spending less than you earn. Having that security. When she started working after university, she just continued that pattern. When she discovered FIRE at 25, she didn't need to overhaul her lifestyle. She was already on that path. The book just gave her a framework and a target.   Right Place, Right Time The other piece of luck: she studied economics, started working in data analysis right after university, and happened to enter the field just as it exploded. Data science didn't really exist as a formal field when she started. It was just emerging. And then over the next decade, it became one of the most in-demand technical specialities in the world. Shortage of qualified people, companies desperate to hire, salaries climbing. "It was kind of a good time to start in data analysis work. And then it became bigger and bigger and bigger. And so yeah, I was able to have quite a nice career." I asked her if she planned this, if she knew going into it that data science would explode. "No, no, no. I went into it just because I liked it. And that was a job that I found. I liked solving problems. I liked kind of some of the coding. I like to build it into reports and I enjoyed it. So I stuck with it and then it kind of, yeah, exploded. And I was in the right place at the right time." She didn't plan this. She went into data ana

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  2. May 29

    Andreea Rusu: The Connector

    Guest: Andreea RusuCareer: Marketing ManagerBased: NomadicInstagram: andreea.rrusu   Episode DescriptionAndreea Rusu was sad and depressed in her Bucharest flat in June 2021, post-COVID, with no money to travel. So she bought a one-way ticket to Spain, spent half a year researching on YouTube and Google, and discovered the World Packers platform. She applied to 40 volunteer opportunities, got accepted to 12, and ended up in Anceu, Galicia—a 100-person village in rural Spain—to do some Instagram marketing for a co-living space. What was meant to be a one-month stay became five months, then extended to two and a half years of returning repeatedly. Because when she arrived, something shifted. On a date before the trip, someone had asked her, "Who are you?" and she could only answer, "I'm Andreea and I'm a video editor." At Anceu, surrounded by strangers who became family, she finally discovered the answer. She wasn't just a video editor. She was a community builder. A connector. Someone who made strangers feel like they belonged. Now she's building a directory bridging two worlds: community builders looking for places to volunteer, and co-living spaces looking for community builders. She's experienced 15-plus co-livings, understood the power of genuine curiosity, learned that what you feel is valid even when you grew up in a conservative environment that told you to shut up, and realised that being a community builder is actually a full-time job in mental space—even if volunteering looks part-time. If you want to know everything about co-living, about finding yourself by helping others belong, about the personal development bootcamp that is community building, Andreea is your person.   Timestamps 00:00-00:37 Introduction by Ibi 00:37-02:00 Andreea's story intro, depressed in Bucharest, one-way ticket to Spain 02:00-03:00 Discovery of World Packers, applied to 40 opportunities 03:00-03:30 Anceu co-living, Galicia, rural village 03:30-04:20 First month experience 04:20-05:30 Marketing volunteer role discovering co-living concept 05:30-06:50 Applied to 40 opportunities, accepted to 12, found Anceu 06:50-08:15 Stayed one month, emerged as community builder 08:15-09:30 The date question "Who are you?" identity crisis as video editor 09:30-10:30 InsideOut project by J.R., rural revival cause 10:30-12:00 Using InsideOut as excuse to stay longer 12:00-13:00 Two types of communities, online and offline 13:00-14:30 Building community in tiny 100-person village 14:30-15:00 Trust people, don't guide them through everything 15:00-15:45 Conservative upbringing, fear of speaking openly 15:45-16:30 Learning from others' stories, discovering multifaceted self 16:30-17:00 "What you feel is valid"—psychologist moment 17:00-18:30 Control freak lesson at team dinner, learning to trust 18:30-20:00 Lived there on and off, one year nonstop 20:00-21:30 Community expanded from co-living to village to neighbouring villages 21:30-23:00 Personal development bootcamp aspects 23:00-24:30 Permission to fail, observer role, awareness of impact 24:30-25:30 Friends around the world, friendships built through co-living 25:30-26:30 Material benefits, no rent, maintaining freedom 26:30-27:00 Meeting partner at Anceu 27:00-28:00 Been in 15+ co-livings, understanding different spaces 28:00-28:30 Current work in Belgium and building community for builders 28:30-29:55 Creating directory of co-living opportunities 29:55-30:30 Bridging community builders with co-living operators 30:30-31:45 Personal development benefits of volunteering 31:45-32:15 Observer role and impact awareness 32:15-33:00 Making friends worldwide, global network 33:00-33:30 Materialistic benefits, no rent expenses 33:30-34:30 Career development trade-offs, full-time mental space 34:30-35:45 Volunteered for 2.5 years, then stopped to process insights 35:45-36:20 Can you do both, job and volunteering? 36:20-38:30 Advice: doesn't depend on career stage, depends on values 38:30-39:10 Genuine care, nurturing vibe, can switch brain to others 39:10-39:45 Closing, thank you   About This PodcastReal conversations with successful digital nomads who've built sustainable location-independent income. Strategic insights on how they transitioned, what income streams they built, and what they wish they'd known earlier. No travel tips or lifestyle fluff.   HostIbi Malik helps ambitious professionals transition to nomadic careers without income sacrifice. To watch the video follow this link: https://youtu.be/jo-hT8Yy9ZQ Follow for weekly episodes featuring professionals who've successfully built nomadic income streams. Episode length: ~40 minutes Published: 29th May 2026Episode #14   The Connector Who Found Herself by Helping Others Belong I'm sitting in a French castle talking to someone who spent a total of two and a half years living in a 100-person village in rural Spain, not visiting or passing through, but actually living there as the person who helped strangers feel like they belonged. Andreea Rusu has this incredible energy about her when she talks about community building, this genuine warmth that makes you understand immediately why she's good at what she does. She didn't plan any of it. June 2021, she was sad and depressed in her Bucharest flat, and one day she just bought a one-way ticket to Spain because staying felt worse than leaving. She couldn't afford traditional travel, so she did what so many of us do when we're desperate to change our lives: she spent half a year Googling and watching YouTube videos until she discovered World Packers and the concept of volunteering in exchange for accommodation. "I applied to 40 opportunities like just, you know, random to see what clicks or not. I was, I had zero expectations. And out of these 40 opportunities, I got accepted to 12 of them. And I was like, really? People can offer you a free stay and pay utilities and other perks if you help them with a little bit of marketing." The one that stood out was in Anceu, Galicia. The description mentioned digital nomads working on their projects during the day, doing dinners and hikes together in the evenings. What was meant to be a one-month stay ended up being five months, and she kept coming back for two and a half years after that. What happened in those first weeks changed the entire trajectory of her life, though she didn't know it yet. Who Are You? There's this moment Andreea shares that explains everything about why co-living mattered so much to her. She was on a date once, and the guy asked her, "Who are you?" She answered the way most of us would: "Well, I'm Andreea and I'm a video editor." He stopped her. "I don't care what you do for a job. Who are you as a person?" She didn't know. "That question like struck me. I was like, who am I? Who am I? I don't know, who am I? I was, I knew somehow inside about my desires, my burning curiosities, but I didn't know who I am." That question haunted her. She'd spent her whole life identifying with her profession, never thinking about who she actually was beneath the job title. When she arrived at that first co-living in Anceu, she wasn't just looking for a place to stay. She was looking for herself. "I feel like I found my people, I found my world. I found myself first." She went as a marketing volunteer, meant to help with Instagram promotion and blog posts. Simple stuff. But she found herself naturally gravitating toward something else. Every new person who walked through the door, she wanted to know their story. She'd sit with them for hours, genuinely curious about where they came from and what brought them there. She started engaging people in activities, bringing them together, and the community builder role just emerged from that curiosity. "This is the job or the job, the role that came to me just because I was genuinely curious about people, I was engaging them in activities, I was like bringing them together." One month turned into five through clever negotiation. She pitched an art project called InsideOut by French artist J.R., photographing local villagers to raise awareness about rural revival: the idea that rural areas can thrive when you connect nature, slow-paced living, and remote work infrastructure. The portraits would take a month to ship from France, and she'd paste them on walls around the village. "I use this as an excuse like, hey, I cannot leave now. I have to wait for my project to be finished." It worked. And those projects started connecting the co-living community to the village itself. At first, locals were skeptical about all these strangers coming and going. But through rural revival and opening doors to invite villagers in, the community expanded. First to the village, then to neighbouring villages. Now it's spread across Galicia. The co-living wasn't isolated, it became part of the place. Permission to Feel The personal transformation went deeper than discovering a new skill. Andreea grew up in a conservative environment where you didn't talk openly about what you were thinking or feeling. You shut up, didn't complain, toughened up. She spent years building walls, always looking over her shoulder, never knowing if anyone would accept what she had to say. Then one day she was crying, really struggling with something, and a psychologist from the community sat down with her. "She took my hands and looked at me and she said, like, Andreea, what you feel it's valid. It's real. Because I couldn't process what I'm thinking and what I'm feeling because I didn't allow it to to feel it first and to accept it." That sentence broke something open. Nobody had ever told her that before. That her feelings mattered. That she didn't have to process everything alone first, toughen up, present a perfect version of herself. She could feel something, accept it, then process it. The permission to feel changed everything. "I grew up in such an environmen

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  3. May 15

    Ab Khurana: The Experimenter

    Guest: Ab KhuranaCareer: Sales ExecutiveBased: NomadicInstagram: @ab.photolabLinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/abkhurana/ Episode DescriptionAb Khurana treats his entire life as a series of experiments, including the experiment of having a normal life. Two years ago, the timing was right to settle, so he signed a lease in San Diego, built a routine, joined sports leagues, dated normally—all the standard stuff. Then, two years later, the timing was right to leave, so he left. Some people would call that a success. Some would call it a failure. Ab just calls it valuable experience. He doesn't theorise about what he wants. He runs experiments and observes the results. His framework: try ten things, you'll love three, hate three, and feel neutral about four. But only once you've actually tried them, not just imagined them, will you know what to orient your life around. San Diego taught him he's definitely a beach and sun person. That making new friends as an adult matters to him. That two years of routine felt good but not complete. Now he's pursuing the specific things his twelve-year-old self always wanted to do whilst the window is still open. Machu Picchu, check. Erupting volcano in Guatemala, check. Scuba diving certification despite being scared of water, check. Next up: the Galapagos Islands, a safari in Africa, a month on a farm with WWOOF making things with his hands instead of pushing pixels. And eventually, being a tourist in India, the country where he spent his first thirteen years but hasn't visited since. This is a masterclass in building self-knowledge through empirical living. When you stop predicting how you'll feel and start collecting actual evidence, you stop wondering what you've missed and start knowing what matters. The tetherball metaphor applies: you can stray as far as you want, but you're still tethered to something solid—whether that's good parents, close friends, or the three things you've discovered you genuinely love. Trust your inner fire. It's unique to you, and that's the point.   Timestamps 00:00-00:41 Introduction00:41-02:05 Guest introduction02:05-03:33 Two and a half years nomadic in two stints03:33-05:04 San Diego experiment, lease and routine05:04-06:38 Why he left, timing and freedom before commitments06:38-07:56 Long-term relationships and family considerations07:56-09:18 Twelve-year-old dreams and pursuing new experiences09:18-10:05 Maslow's hierarchy of needs discussion10:05-12:34 Fulfilling relationship needs through community12:34-13:29 Nomads more open and untethered from roles13:29-14:20 Only getting one layer deep, something missing14:20-15:23 Strengthening existing relationships15:23-16:57 Electron metaphor, travellers vs settled people16:57-18:21 Hopping on friends' trips, maintaining connections18:21-19:42 US vs Europe vacation time, 15 days vs 35 days19:42-21:48 Tetherball metaphor, being grounded whilst travelling21:48-23:41 Good parents as foundation, unconditional love23:41-24:58 Ten experiments framework, love 3, hate 3, neutral 424:58-25:54 Self-awareness through experimentation25:54-28:11 Ibi's grounding, music and fire metaphor28:11-29:59 Inner fire, comparing to others leads to analysis paralysis29:59-30:13 Finding people who encourage your unique fire30:13-32:37 AI discussion, cultural shift and adaptation32:37-35:21 AI tinkerers, people who played the game before35:21-38:42 Recent adventures, Machu Picchu, volcano, scuba diving38:42-40:49 Future plans, Galapagos, safari, WWOOF, India as tourist40:49-41:28 Closing About This PodcastReal conversations with successful digital nomads who've built sustainable location-independent income. Strategic insights on how they transitioned, what income streams they built, and what they wish they'd known earlier. No travel tips or lifestyle fluff. HostIbi Malik helps ambitious professionals transition to nomadic careers without income sacrifice. To watch the video follow this link: https://youtu.be/Tv0I1FYH2sI Follow for weekly episodes featuring professionals who've successfully built nomadic income streams. Episode length: ~41 minutesPublished: 15th May 2026Episode #13   The Experimenter Who Builds Self-Knowledge Through Experience We're sitting in a French castle talking about Ab Khurana's two years in San Diego. The lease, the routine, the dating, the sports leagues. Normal life, basically. "And this sounds like an experiment," I say. "What did it yield?" He laughs. "It's funny to call it an experiment because to most people that's life. It's just, hey, get a lease and let's live here." "You've been interviewing too many nomads," he adds. Fair point. But that's exactly how Ab thinks. Not settling versus travelling. Not success versus failure. Just trying different things and seeing what works. The timing was right to get a lease in San Diego, so he did. Two years later, the timing was right to leave, so he left. He lives in the present, responding to what makes sense now. The Timing Calculation Two years ago, the timing was right to settle. His friend was moving to San Diego. The city appealed to him. He wanted to explore what stability felt like. So he got a lease, built a routine, made new friends. Then circumstances shifted. His friend moved out of their shared flat. He wasn't in a long term relationship. His job stayed remote. And crucially, he's in his early-to-mid thirties, which means the window for certain experiences hasn't closed yet. The timing was right to leave. It's not about one choice being better than the other. It's about responding to the moment and taking advantage of the situation as it presents itself. "I kind of just take advantage of the situation while I'm still in my early 30s or mid 30s before it gets harder to do. If you are going to potentially have a family, or potentially be in a long term relationship, it makes it a little harder." This isn't about running from commitment. It's about sequencing. Getting certain experiences out of his system now, whilst he has the freedom to do them, so that when commitments do arrive, he won't spend years wondering what he missed. There's something methodical about this. He's pursuing specific things the twelve-year-old version of himself always wanted to do whilst the variables align to make them possible. The Science of Self-Knowledge The real insight isn't that Ab experiments. It's how he uses those experiments to build self-knowledge. "Having done a few things or experienced a few things that were a little scary, a little new, or just things that the 12 year old me really wanted to do, I know for a fact that that is worth it and it's worth pursuing that." He's not guessing what brings him contentment. He has empirical evidence. His framework is simple: experiment with ten things. You'll love three of them, hate three of them, and feel neutral about four. Once you've actually tried them, not just imagined them, you know what to orient your life towards. You know what to avoid. And the rest doesn't matter much. This is the opposite of how most people approach life decisions. Most people theorise. They imagine what they'd like, consult friends, read articles, try to predict how they'll feel. Ab just tries things and observes what happens. The Tetherball Effect The nomad paradox: you need to feel grounded whilst being completely unmoored. Ab uses a tetherball metaphor. The ball spins wildly, flies in every direction, but it's attached to the pole with a rope. You can stray as far as you want, but you're still connected to something fixed. That connection is what lets you experiment without feeling lost. For Ab, that rope is his parents. He grew up with unconditional love, never doubting whether they loved him, never worrying if their fights meant instability. That foundation, he acknowledges, is luck. Not everyone gets it. But it's what enables him to travel for years, try risky things, live out of a suitcase, because he knows he's tethered to something solid. "That stability was there, that feeling. I think that goes a long way, if you get lucky with that." Even without that specific foundation, the grounding can come through other means. Through discovering those three things you love and knowing, no matter where you are physically, that you're still the person oriented around them. The grounding isn't the place. It's knowing who you are. The Electron Effect Here's where the conversation gets interesting. We're talking about maintaining relationships whilst travelling, and I introduce a physics metaphor: electrons versus neutrons. Neutrons sit in the nucleus, stable and stationary. Electrons whiz around. The chance of an electron hitting a neutron is basically zero. But two electrons colliding? Much higher probability. Travellers are electrons. Settled people are neutrons. If you're constantly moving, connecting with people back home who are stable becomes nearly impossible. The collision points don't align. They're on holiday for one week a year, visiting places you've already left. You're living your normal life in places they're treating as special. But other travellers? You bump into them repeatedly. Same cities, same co-livings, same paths. The collision probability is high. So Ab has adapted. He hops on his settled friends' trips when he can, using his flexibility to meet them where they are. He knows how important it is to keep contact with his good friends. And he's learned something crucial about nomad interactions: "Oftentimes when I think travellers meet each other, on average, they tend to be more open and unguarded. Each individual is not in their kind of whatever role they play back home with their friends and families. They're a little untethered." You only get one layer deep with most nomad friendships. You're both leaving soon. But because nomads are more open, that one layer goes deeper than it would back home. Higher frequency of interaction. No roles to play. Less guarded. So even t

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  4. May 1

    Elle Ota: The Modern Athena

    Guest: Elle OtaCareer: Program Officer, Human Rights FoundationBased: Nomadic Episode DescriptionElle Ota spent her summers underwater, diving to fourth-to-sixth-century Roman shipwrecks off the coast of Sicily. She studied classics and ancient Greek, worked as an underwater archaeologist, and seemed destined for a PhD analysing ceramics under microscopes. Her professors pushed her toward academia. The track was clear. But Elle had a problem: she has an enormous social battery, and a career staring at pottery shards in labs felt fundamentally lonely. So she made a choice, she picked living people over thousand-year-old ones. Today she works remotely for the Human Rights Foundation whilst running the U.S. fundraising arm for a Ukrainian aid organisation. October 2022 changed everything, she moved to Europe the same month she first volunteered in Ukraine. The parallel timeline revealed something crucial: remote work didn't just enable travel, it enabled impact. She could hold down her 9-to-5 promoting democracy and human rights whilst balancing weeks in conflict zones managing aid operations. Without location independence, none of it would be possible. She's lived completely out of a suitcase for two years, gaining perspective from Europeans and South Americans in co-livings across the continent. Not surface-level tourist perspective, the depth that comes from living with people, hearing their stories day after day, understanding how they think. She surfs, climbs mountains, learns to scuba dive despite childhood fear of water, and has built a life that lets her chase both adventure and meaningful work. When you ask if she's brave, she gets uncomfortable and she knows activists who've been tortured, soldiers in trenches defending their country. Her work feels comparatively small. But that's exactly the point: she's found a way to contribute whilst feeding her enormous energy to try everything.   Timestamps00:00-00:37 Introduction00:37-01:56 Guest introduction01:56-02:44 Moving to Europe October 2022, transitional period02:44-03:27 Part-time to full-time nomad journey03:27-04:40 Value of having a base to return to04:40-05:02 Returning to same places for familiarity05:02-07:18 Living completely out of suitcase, 23kg limit07:18-08:29 Kiev as difficult home base, travel logistics08:29-09:19 Human Rights Foundation 9-to-5 work09:19-10:31 Ukraine volunteering origin, October 2022 parallel timeline10:31-12:08 Remote work enabling Ukraine volunteering flexibility12:08-14:09 Nomadism enables building best version of life14:09-15:11 Ibi's background and motivations15:11-16:58 Maslow's hierarchy and trying different things16:58-19:24 Gaining depth of perspective from living with Europeans19:24-21:13 Nuance of understanding European countries beyond surface level21:13-23:53 First-hand vs second-hand perspective, both valuable23:53-25:40 Sicily discussion and tourism perspective25:40-27:18 Underwater archaeology background, Roman shipwreck27:18-28:52 Academia career path consideration28:52-30:52 High social battery, choosing people-focused work over ceramics30:52-31:12 Ghosts and archeology spirits discussion31:12-32:17 Fearlessness observation from third-party perspective32:17-33:57 What courage looks like, relative to activists and soldiers33:57-35:20 Ukraine work feels comparatively small, adventure and adrenaline35:20-36:16 Closing, Sicily reunion plans About This PodcastReal conversations with successful digital nomads who've built sustainable location-independent income. Strategic insights on how they transitioned, what income streams they built, and what they wish they'd known earlier. No travel tips or lifestyle fluff.   HostIbi Malik helps ambitious professionals transition to nomadic careers without income sacrifice.To watch the video follow this link:  https://youtu.be/hxsuI1ZNMI8 Follow for weekly episodes featuring professionals who've successfully built nomadic income streams. Episode length: ~36 minutesPublished: 1st May 2026Episode #12   The Underwater Archaeologist Who Left the Past for the Present I'm sitting in a French castle talking to someone who used to spend her days underwater examining Roman shipwrecks. Elle Ota studied classics and ancient Greek at university, worked as an underwater archaeologist diving to a fourth-to-sixth-century wreck off the coast of Sicily, and seemed destined for a PhD and a quiet life analysing ceramics under microscopes. Then she made a choice that changed everything: she picked living people over thousand-year-old ones. Today, Elle works remotely for the Human Rights Foundation whilst running a U.S. fundraising arm for a Ukrainian aid organization. She's lived completely out of a suitcase for two years, gaining perspective from Europeans and South Americans in co-livings across the continent. She surfs, climbs mountains, travels to conflict zones, and has built a life that lets her chase both adventure and impact. The story of how an underwater archaeologist (yes, quite literally an archaeologist who works underwater, who knew!) became a nomadic human rights worker isn't about abandoning one passion for another. It's about recognising what fuels you and building the flexibility to act on it. The Social Battery That Ended Academia Elle's path to archaeology made perfect sense after her studies in classics and ancient Greek. Every day: scuba equipment, diving down to a Roman shipwreck, underwater excavation, bringing pieces to the surface, afternoons analysing them in labs. "I actually think it was the best job ever," she tells me. So why isn't she still doing it? Her professors pushed her toward a PhD, toward teaching and research. The academic track. And she loved the work itself, the puzzle-solving, the nerdiness of it all. But a career in academia comes with realities: intense competition for vanishing positions, work that "can be very solitary", years looking at pottery shards under microscopes. "I have such a high social battery that it's quite easy for me to be in co-livings all the time, and that is pretty counterintuitive to a career looking at ceramics under a microscope." She wanted work focused on people. On communities. On applying what she learned rather than just researching it. The underwater work was brilliant, but fundamentally lonely. Elle needed something that fed her energy rather than drained it. So she pivoted. She chose human rights work, nonprofit management, roles that put her directly with people trying to change things. And crucially, she chose remote work. When Two Timelines Converge There's something about parallel timelines that reveals how much of life is shaped by being in the right place at the right moment. In October 2022, Elle moved to Europe. The same month, she went to Ukraine for the first time on a volunteer mission. She'd been watching the full-scale invasion unfold since February. Working her regular job at the Human Rights Foundation (40 hours a week, 9-to-5, promoting democracy and human rights in countries under authoritarian regimes). But Ukraine pulled at her. She wanted to help, though she knew you can't just thrust yourself into a crisis and expect to be useful. The opportunity came through Polish connections. She went on that first trip, offered her nonprofit background: fundraising, social media, grant writing, website management. Started volunteering with an organization on the ground. Over three years, those roles expanded. Now she helps run the U.S. fundraising arm, manages teams, considers them family. And here's what makes it possible: remote work. "I think having the flexibility of remote work was pretty key to me being able to do Ukraine work, because I can travel there, I can balance the two. I can work my normal 9-to-5 and also be volunteering for Ukraine." Without location independence, none of this happens. She can't be in Kiev for weeks managing aid operations whilst holding down her Human Rights Foundation role. She can't balance meaningful work with meaningful impact. The nomadic structure doesn't just enable adventure. It enables action. Hunting Perspective Elle describes herself as an American who's benefited enormously from living with Europeans and South Americans. Not just visiting their countries, but actually living with them in co-livings, hearing their perspectives day after day, gaining depth that surface-level travel never provides. We talked about the difference between first-hand and second-hand perspective. First-hand is what you experience yourself. Second-hand comes from talking to people, hearing their stories, living alongside them. Both matter. Both add layers. "You get to hear different perspectives too, and be very much surrounded by those, not just have one conversation with somebody, but when you're living with them in the context, you really start to gain a real depth of perspective." She's not just collecting passport stamps. She's collecting understanding. The nuance of what it's actually like to live somewhere, not as a tourist passing through but as someone embedded enough to see how people think, what they value, why they make the choices they make. This is what nomadism offers beyond the Instagram version: sustained exposure to different ways of being. Not a week in Barcelona, but months living with people from ten different countries, hearing how they approach work, relationships, risk, meaning. For Elle, this depth of perspective has fundamentally shaped what works best for her own life. She's not just trying things herself. She's learning from watching others try them too. Two Years Out of a Suitcase Elle's been living completely out of her suitcase for two years. No storage unit in Europe. No home base besides the one in California that requires 24 hours of flight time to reach. She watches with some envy as friends with European families can leave suitcases with them, return to bedrooms in friends' flats, maintain some anchor of

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  5. Miranda Miller: The Midlife Nomad

    Apr 17

    Miranda Miller: The Midlife Nomad

    Guest: Miranda MillerCareer: Writer, Editor, MarketerBased: NomadicInstagram: @themidlifenomadsLinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/mirandamillerwrites/Personal Website: miranda-miller.comMidlife Nomads Website: Midlifenomads.comNewsletter: midlifenomads.com/subscribe Episode DescriptionMiranda Miller didn't wait for the remote work revolution. She was already there. Since 2006, fighting for $15-an-hour writing contracts as a single mum in small-town Canada, scrapping together work on Elance whilst waitressing and working factory shifts. Then someone offered her $1,000 a day to work conferences. She had two babies. She initially said no. But then she called her mum to arrange childcare. Australia, London, the US—she caught the travel bug and never looked back. Eighteen years later, she's survived every era of remote work. The pre-COVID grind when nobody understood what she did. The COVID burnout when boundaries dissolved and she took on too much. The recovery when she had to intentionally reset, kill projects that weren't working, and choose what actually mattered. Now she runs Midlife Nomads, a community helping 40-plus professionals make the leap to location independence. Not the backpacker hustle. Not the 30-year-old grind. A different pace. Different priorities. Comfort over adventure. Sustainability over exponential growth. Three years of building slowly, choosing the right people over fast expansion. This is a masterclass in reframing. When you stop seeing failures as losses and start treating them as experiments, eighteen years of trial and error becomes eighteen years of compounding wisdom. She's killed beloved projects, turned down opportunities, bought fifty domains she'll never use, and learnt that the real skill isn't saying yes to everything—it's knowing which opportunities to pursue before you run yourself ragged. Timestamps00:00-00:37 Introduction00:37-01:48 Guest introduction01:48-02:12 Been remote since 2008, part-time then full-time nomad02:12-03:10 Travel durations and recovery time03:10-04:08 Midlife Nomads origin and purpose04:08-05:57 Different pace and priorities for 40-plus travellers05:57-07:15 Starting as single mum, $15/hour struggles07:15-08:15 Elance platform and women writers' network08:15-09:12 $1,000/day conference work pivot09:12-09:25 Catching the travel bug09:25-10:23 Factory work, hospitality, finding what she's good at10:23-11:33 Internet as levelling the playing field11:33-13:33 COVID impact: doors slamming shut, burnout, boundary issues13:33-15:02 Selling time vs expertise theory15:02-16:39 Packaging services and productising expertise16:39-18:49 Contract mindset and reframing18:49-19:27 Anxiety about proving productivity whilst nomading19:27-20:12 Reframing mindset from corporate to outcomes-focused20:12-21:22 Seeing others model the lifestyle, monthly check-ins21:22-21:58 Becoming a beginner again, permission to suck21:58-23:48 Building sustainably vs get-rich-quick23:48-24:44 Three years building Midlife Nomads slowly24:44-26:04 Daily routine and grounding practices26:04-27:01 Energy management and seasons27:01-28:18 Self-imposed pressure and recovering from perfectionism28:18-29:35 Too many ideas problem, Writer's Den vs Midlife Nomads29:35-29:58 Reframing failures as experiments, knowing which opportunities to pursue About This PodcastReal conversations with successful digital nomads who've built sustainable location-independent income. Strategic insights on how they transitioned, what income streams they built, and what they wish they'd known earlier. No travel tips or lifestyle fluff. HostIbi Malik helps ambitious professionals transition to nomadic careers without income sacrifice. To watch the video follow this link: https://youtu.be/Ishui5vvCbE  Follow for weekly episodes featuring professionals who've successfully built nomadic income streams. Episode length: ~30 minutesPublished: 17th April 2026Episode #11 Guest ReflectionThe Midlife Nomad Who Helps Others Rewrite Their Rules I sat down with Miranda Miller looking forward to hearing about Midlife Nomads, her passion project helping 40-plus professionals transition to location independence. What I got was so much more: 18 years of hard-won wisdom from someone who's been doing this since the term barely existed. Miranda has been doing this since 2006, when 'digital nomad' wasn't even a proper term yet. She's navigated every era of remote work, survived lockdowns that slammed doors shut whilst others' opened, and built Midlife Nomads over three years of slow, steady work. She's a master at reframing, turning hourly rates into value packages, burnout into boundary resets, failed projects into experiments. She's faced every challenge, made every mistake, and come out the other side with kids in tow. The advice she shares isn't theory. It's battle-tested wisdom from 18 years on the road: how to manage day-to-day life when your mind spins with project ideas, why giving yourself permission to suck at new things matters, and how the cage you're in is probably one you built yourself. The $1,000 Turning Point Miranda became a mum at 24. By 28, she was a single mother in small-town Canada trying to get $15-an-hour writing contracts, fighting for business against people who didn't think they needed to pay writers. She found Elance, the original Upwork, in 2006. Built a profile over a few years. By 2008, she was doing decent freelance work but still working multiple jobs. Through Elance, she met other women writers and they formed their own private forum, taking on bigger projects together. Then one of those women came to her with an offer. "I need you to take on a client for me. It's working at conferences." Miranda's response was immediate. "Absolutely not, I can't, I have two babies." The woman paused. "Well, they'll pay you 1,000 USD a day." I laughed when Miranda told me this. Money changes things. She called her mum, arranged childcare for four days a month, and took the job. Australia. London. Conferences across the US. Representing an SEO company whilst taking university courses and getting into e-commerce. "I caught the travel bug big time at that point. And I thought, I can't go back to not doing this." At those conferences, she met people who saw what she was doing and wanted to work with her. The university courses gave her frameworks. The travel gave her perspective. It all compounded. When COVID Slammed the Door Shut For most people, COVID opened doors. Remote work suddenly became acceptable. Companies scrambled to figure out how to operate distributed teams. Digital nomadism went mainstream. For Miranda, it was the opposite. "COVID was actually like a lot of doors slamming shut." She was in Ontario, Canada, which had strict lockdowns. Snitch lines. Only one person per family allowed at the grocery store. As a writer and introvert, working from home was fine. Not being able to travel anywhere? That got tough. But she also saw an opportunity. Small businesses were struggling, needing to pivot everything online overnight. So she helped them, taking on project after project. "There were a lot of us in marketing who felt like we needed to help people, especially businesses." The problem? Her boundaries completely dissolved. "Without travel, there's not that much else to do. So I'll just keep taking on more and more work." By 2022-23, she hit total burnout. Had to stop. The world was opening up again, and she needed to reset intentionally. "It was like an intentional resetting of the boundaries. We need to slow down a bit and get back to having a real life." Time vs Expertise I have a theory about selling time for money. You can max out around €3,500 to €7,000 a month depending on rates. After that, unless you hire people, you're stuck. The shift has to be from time to expertise. Miranda's response? "I think it makes a lot of sense." She sees this constantly at Midlife Nomads. People leaving stable careers with hourly rates, wanting to bring that same model into remote work. It doesn't translate. "They're going to compare you against the cost of what an employee would be. If you're saying you can have me for X amount of dollars per hour, that's what they're looking at." The reframe? "If you tell them I can save your business $40,000 this year by doing X, Y, Z, then it becomes a completely different conversation." She has one client she's worked with for 14 years. Package-based. Monthly deliverables. They've been acquired three times, and she's grown with them each time. "They don't really even care how long it takes. They just need to know that the research is being done properly, it's being optimised properly, it's fact checked." When life happens, she brings in freelancers to help deliver. The client doesn't care. They're not paying for her time. They're paying for outcomes. "It's a much different conversation than if it were just freelancing as a pseudo employee." This shift from time-based to outcome-based work sounds simple. But it triggers something deeper in people making the transition. Trust Anxiety and Proving Value Some nomads come to me with what I call trust anxiety. They're terrified about proving to clients that they're actually working. It's the shadow side of outcome-based work, especially for people coming from traditional employment. Miranda gets it. "I think that just totally makes sense for people coming out of a productivity mindset where you need to punch the card. You need to prove your value. You need to be a butt in a seat." But here's what she learned over 18 years: "They don't actually care. They want to see the end product, the outcome at the end of the month, the thing that's going to make the difference for them. Anything else is really just creating noise and paperwork." Early on, she tried everything to prove her value. Monthly newsletters showing she was keeping up with industry trends. Regular check-ins. Updates. "Nobody r

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  6. Jocelyn Macurdy Keatts: The Activist

    Apr 3

    Jocelyn Macurdy Keatts: The Activist

    Guest: Jocelyn Macurdy KeattsCareer: Political Communications SpecialistBased: NomadicInstagram: @jocelynmacurdykeatts  Episode DescriptionJocelyn Macurdy Keatts spent ten years trying to save the world from inside Washington, DC. She worked as a political consultant, produced events for politicians, reported on protests, and built a career in progressive activism. But the system swallowed her whole. Networking became performance. Activism became about who you know, not what problems you're solving. The power center's ambient narcissism and daily energy tax drained her creativity. So she left. She told herself she just wanted to travel, write media advisories from Greek islands, take a break. But what she discovered was something deeper: distance gave her clarity that insiders never have. Being outside the US made her more effective at US politics, not less. She could think long-term instead of chasing viral moments. She could focus on problems over profit. She could build stability instead of reacting to whatever Twitter was talking about that week. Now she runs political campaigns from co-livings across Europe, more effective than she ever was in DC. She produces Resistance Labs with Congresswoman Pramila Jayapal, teaching nonviolent resistance tactics. She's discovered anti-fragility, collective nobility, and that curiosity compounds exponentially when you're surrounded by courageous people. This conversation explores how leaving a power center can make you better at changing it, why comfort is the enemy in the modern economy, and what happens when you stop assuming everyone else is right and just try things. Timestamps00:00-00:33 Introduction00:33-01:37 Guest introduction01:37-02:08 Political consultant for ten years02:08-02:52 Burnt out on Washington DC power center02:52-03:48 Activism distorted by power networks03:48-05:08 Left to travel, discovering deeper reasons05:08-06:24 Daily energy tax of maintaining normie existence06:24-07:36 Creative liberation from leaving07:36-09:51 Berlin and different assumptions09:51-11:28 Anti-fragility concept and building resilience11:28-13:32 Comfort is the enemy, disruption is the law13:32-14:52 Nomadic mindset and capitalizing on opportunities14:52-17:18 American left's problem, replicating failed strategies17:18-18:42 Problem over profit mindset shift18:42-20:42 Solving problems vs making money20:42-23:56 Objectivity from distance23:56-26:26 Resistance Labs with Congresswoman Jayapal26:26-28:38 Building stability vs chasing viral moments28:38-30:18 Surrounded by people you respect30:18-32:31 Courage and collective nobility32:31-34:47 Curiosity compounds exponentially34:47-35:13 Closing About This PodcastReal conversations with successful digital nomads who've built sustainable location-independent income. Strategic insights on how they transitioned, what income streams they built, and what they wish they'd known earlier. No travel tips or lifestyle fluff. HostIbi Malik helps ambitious professionals transition to nomadic careers without income sacrifice. To watch the video follow this link: https://youtu.be/tuJIZKaTcOU  Follow for weekly episodes featuring professionals who've successfully built nomadic income streams. Episode length: ~35 minutesPublished: 3rd April 2026Episode #10 Guest Reflection The Political Activist Who Realised Leaving America was the Best Way to Save it I sat down with Jocelyn at Chateau Co-living in Normandy, where we'd been living together for six weeks. She'd just spent the morning strategising media campaigns for American political activists. From a French castle. Whilst most of her colleagues were stuck in Washington DC traffic. She told me about spending ten years in DC politics, wanting to save the world. About getting trapped in narcissistic power networks where activism became performance. About leaving because she thought she just wanted to travel. And about discovering that distance didn't make her less effective at changing the world. It made her more effective. This is the story of someone who left the system and found she could fight better from outside it. Wanting to Save the World At 19, Jocelyn got into progressive politics for the reason most people do. "I wanted to save the world. That's what everybody wants when they're 19 years old." Good reason as any. The world needs saving. She spent ten years building a political life in Washington DC. Producing events for politicians and activists. On-camera reporter for protests and campaigns. Helping candidates and activists build media profiles. Doing the work she thought would change things. What she does specifically: helping progressive candidates and activists navigate America's right-wing media bias. Building strategies so the left can get the attention they deserve in a media landscape tilted against them. But somewhere in those ten years, something shifted. "I don't think I really realised, but I was actually just completely burnt out on Washington politics specifically." The Power Center Trap "You're a Londoner so I think you know the specific burnout that you can have from big power centres where there is this kind of ambient narcissism and everything costs thousands of pounds." She was right. I knew exactly what she meant. London. New York. DC. The big power centres where networking becomes performance and actual work gets distorted by influence. "You go into this world and there are so many people with power and money, and instead of saving the world, you're trying to form these relationships and keep these relationships and it becomes increasingly unclear, okay, is this leading to anything, or am I just stuck in this narcissistic social system?" The trap isn't that people are malicious. It's that the system itself distorts everything. Your activism becomes about who you know. Your strategies become about what's worked before, not what works now. Your energy goes into maintaining networks instead of solving problems. "I feel like being baked in this big American power city had kind of wounded my relationship with activism in a lot of ways. It felt like the things that I wanted to do were being distorted by all these layers of influence and networks of power and funding." Ten years in. Career established. Connections built. And increasingly unsure if any of it was leading anywhere real. "I was just like, what if I just left? Like, what's the worst that could happen?" The Unconscious Escape When Jocelyn left DC after COVID, she told herself a simple story: she wanted to travel. "I'm gonna write my media advisories from the Greek islands. Sounds nice." That was the conscious reason. Pack up the freelance work she could do from anywhere. Travel for a while. See what happens. "But as I travelled more and met other travellers, I realised there was actually something much deeper going on with why I left and why I was staying away." What she discovered wasn't just about wanting to see new places. It was about escape from something specific. "When you have a career that's based in one place, your life ends up being weighed down with all these concerns that feel so important, but they aren't. Maybe you need to have this expensive flat or car and you're seeing all these people every week and then there's not really a lot of energy left over to be creative, to be intrinsically motivated to really think about, what am I doing with my career?" She described it as the daily energy tax of maintaining what she called a "normie existence" - the constant low-level drain of keeping up appearances. Maintaining the right flat. Seeing the right people. Playing the networking game. All the things that feel necessary when everyone around you is doing them. Creative Liberation When that daily energy tax disappeared, something unexpected happened. Her creative and intellectual energy became far more available. Not because she was on permanent holiday, but because she wasn't weighed down anymore. She was careful to be honest about the transition. There's an adjustment period - maybe a few months, maybe a year - where you're acclimating to constantly switching countries and you won't be terribly productive. But after that? She was shocked by how much she suddenly took on projects that were more important, more exciting, more challenging, and more aligned with what she actually cared about. Why? Because she wasn't stuck in a limiting idea of what it meant to be a political activist. She wasn't in a sphere where everybody said the same things and did the same things. Meeting people constantly. Being challenged daily. New perspectives from different cultures. It wasn't just liberating. It was professionally transformative. The Anti-Fragility Advantage Jocelyn introduced me to a term: anti-fragility. It's an economics concept that rose in popularity during COVID - the idea that systems can sustain catastrophe but still be resilient. She thinks about it constantly in relation to nomad life. If you're going to be a serious professional and become a nomad, you're building anti-fragility. Becoming more aware of what you want to create, what problems you want to solve, and how to actually do that - versus relying on your network to tell you what to do. Here's the key insight: normal people assume a great life is built on figuring it out. But that never happens. You get older, the economy changes, technology changes. Even if you stay in the same place your whole life, comfort is a complete illusion. The advantage nomads have? Your life changes every month or two, so you're no longer allergic to the idea that things can be totally different. She saw this in DC constantly. People would do something that worked, then spend the next five to ten years trying to replicate it. But the world had changed. As nomads, you can't fall into that trap. You're forced to adapt constantly. "In the modern economy, comfort is the enemy. Disruption is the law of the moder

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  7. Kayleigh Franks: The Seeker

    Mar 20

    Kayleigh Franks: The Seeker

    Guest: Kayleigh FranksCareer: Head of Digital MarketingBased: NomadicInstagram: @kayleighrfEpisode DescriptionKayleigh Franks didn't stumble into digital nomadism. She hunted it down. In 2016, she flew to Chiang Mai and spent three months interviewing 24 digital nomads for 90 minutes each, studying them for her bachelor's thesis. Then she made it her life's mission to become one.She took the long route. Got an office job in Sydney. Showed up every day. Built her skills in digital marketing. Established a foundation. COVID hit and restricted her further. When it lifted, she quit her job, went freelance, and finally started traveling.But it wasn't what she expected. Airbnbs isolated her. The magic she'd observed in Chiang Mai was missing. Then she discovered co-living. After eight years of planning and building toward this life, she finally found what she'd been chasing.In this conversation, we explore what happens when you spend a decade preparing for something and reality still surprises you. We discuss the time prison of office work, why one month is both too long and not long enough, and the trade-offs between freedom and connection that every nomad eventually faces.Timestamps00:00-00:35 Introduction00:35-01:33 Guest introduction01:33-02:08 Writing a thesis about digital nomads02:08-02:43 Chiang Mai 2016, 24 interviews02:43-03:34 Integrating with the community03:34-04:23 Observing nomads in their natural habitat04:23-05:00 What she does now: digital marketing05:00-05:33 Life's mission to become a nomad05:33-06:25 Building career deliberately in Sydney06:25-07:02 COVID restrictions07:02-08:12 Deliberately calculated approach08:12-09:09 First attempts: Airbnbs and isolation09:09-10:44 Connection and belonging, the cafe lady10:44-11:03 Month-long stays and hubs11:03-12:23 Ten-day connection threshold12:23-12:52 Discovering co-living in 202512:52-13:24 The magic and aliveness13:24-14:19 Sustainability of co-living lifestyle14:19-15:34 One month co-livings back-to-back intensity15:34-16:25 Maintaining productivity while traveling16:25-17:17 Five hours a day, four days a week17:17-18:08 Time prison of office work18:08-18:56 Digital nomadism as solution18:56-20:12 How does it feel to have made it?20:12-20:59 Gratitude and creating your own luck20:59-21:50 Challenges and difficulties21:50-23:15 Slow travel vs fast travel preferences23:15-24:29 Community building in co-livings24:29-25:44 Deep connections vs surface connections25:44-27:48 Relationships and nomadism trade-offs27:48-29:45 Freedom vs connection, making decisions29:45-30:06 Worth being nomadic, liberation from structure30:06-30:23 ClosingAbout This PodcastReal conversations with successful digital nomads who've built sustainable location-independent income. Strategic insights on how they transitioned, what income streams they built, and what they wish they'd known earlier. No travel tips or lifestyle fluff. Host Ibi Malik helps ambitious professionals transition to nomadic careers without income sacrifice.  To watch the video follow this link: https://youtu.be/yev3GdVSrhk Follow for weekly episodes featuring professionals who've successfully built nomadic income streams.Episode length: ~30 minutesPublished: 20th March 2026Episode #9 Guest Reflection Halfway through our conversation at Chateau Co-living in Normandy, Kayleigh did what came naturally. She'd been answering my questions for twenty minutes when something shifted. She paused, smiled slightly, and asked: "Can I ask you questions?" It was the researcher emerging. The woman who spent three months in Chiang Mai in 2016 interviewing digital nomads, studying them in their natural habitat, understanding what made them tick. Old habits, it seems, die hard. After nine episodes of guests being interviewed, perhaps it was time someone turned the tables. But before she did, Kayleigh told me her story. About deliberately building a life around nomadism years before most people knew what that meant. About the rocky start that nearly made her question everything. And about finally discovering that the thing she'd been chasing for a decade was real. Studying Nomads Before It Was Normal In 2015, Kayleigh was doing her bachelor's degree in business and tourism when her brother told her about something called digital nomadism. The concept fascinated her immediately. "I decided to research into it. And nomadism was up at the time, and it said the number one hub was Chiang Mai. So I flew to Chiang Mai and spent three months interviewing digital nomads." This was 2016. Before COVID made remote work mainstream. Before digital nomad visas existed. Before co-living spaces were everywhere. She conducted 24 interviews, each an hour and a half long. Sitting in cafes, asking people why they'd chosen this life, what Tim Ferriss's Four Hour Work Week meant to them (spoiler: they didn't actually work four hours), how they made it work. "I wasn't technically a nomad because I wasn't working. I was studying them, but I integrated." She lived in an apartment building where other nomads lived. They'd run into each other in corridors. Meet at the same cafes for co-working. There were no formal co-living spaces then, but they created community anyway. Self-sufficiently building connections when the infrastructure didn't exist yet. What she observed changed everything. "It became my life's mission after that to actually become one myself." The Long Game Most people fall into nomadism. Job goes remote. Partner suggests trying it. Life circumstances change and suddenly it's possible. Kayleigh didn't fall into anything. She built towards it deliberately. "I based my whole career on how I could choose something that would allow me to become location independent." After returning from Thailand, she chose digital marketing specifically because it was location-flexible. But she didn't go remote immediately. She did something counterintuitive: she got an office job. "I decided to work for an agency in Sydney to be able to build up my skills. But they had to have me in the office every day. That doesn't align with me at all. But I knew it was a good way to establish a foundation that would allow me to travel at my own will." Years of showing up to an office she didn't want to be in. Building skills. Getting experience. Creating the foundation that would eventually let her work from anywhere. Then COVID hit. Everything went remote anyway. When restrictions lifted, she saw her moment. "After that, I was like, there is nothing stopping me now. So I quit my job. I went out on my own." It worked. Within a year, she was earning enough to support herself to become a digital nomad. The long game had paid off. When I asked how she felt about being one of the few people who'd planned it this deliberately, her answer surprised me. When It Didn't Work "I obviously spent so many years anticipating this kind of lifestyle, and then I started doing it. And I actually didn't enjoy the way I did it. And I was like, what have I done my whole life? I've worked towards it, and it's not what I expected." Years of planning. Years of building skills. Years of anticipation. And when she finally did it, travelling through South America and Europe, she hated it. The problem? Airbnbs. "It really restricts who you interact with. I think for me, a lot of the beauty to nomadism is actually connecting with people and similar mindsets, but it really isolates you when you're in an Airbnb." She could go to events. Visit co-working spaces. But it wasn't the same as what she'd observed in Chiang Mai, where community formed naturally through proximity and repetition. "When I was studying, connection with people is a big part of feeling like you belong in an area." In Thailand, she'd found an old woman at a local cafe who hugged her every day. They couldn't speak each other's languages, but the woman would sit with her, chat in Thai, hug her goodbye. That daily ritual created belonging. "It just makes you feel like you belong, which is a big part of the pain of being nomadic." Going to the same cafes daily. Staying in places for at least a month. These weren't just preferences. They were survival strategies. "You're only able to connect with people to the depth that you're looking for after ten days." One week somewhere? You're still a tourist. A month? You might actually build something real. But Airbnbs, even with month-long stays, kept her isolated from the very community she'd spent years working towards. The Magic of Co-living Then she discovered proper co-living spaces. Not just apartments where nomads happened to live, but intentionally designed community spaces. Chateau Co-living in Normandy, where we sat talking, was her first experience of a true co-living. "It took you from 2016" to discover this, I pointed out. Years of being nomadic before finding what she'd been looking for. The difference was immediate. Activities she'd never think of doing herself. Skill sharing. Opening her mind to how other people think. The opposite of isolation. When I asked her to define what co-living actually is, she struggled. Like Edouard before her, finding words for it proved difficult. Eventually, after some back and forth, we landed on what came up in Edouard's episode: it's a feeling. More specifically: "It's like a family feeling. Everybody has a different definition of family. But for me it's like you feel good here with other people. It's not permanent because everybody's going to move on with their life and go different places. So it's for a few weeks, a few months. But yeah, it's like family feeling." She was passionate speaking about her experience at the chateau. The magic of it. Being surrounded by people on similar journeys, creating space to actually connect deeply despite knowing everyone would leave eventually. This was what she'd observed in Chiang Mai back in 2016. What those early nomads had built without infrastruct

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  8. Dave Neale: The Storyteller

    Mar 6

    Dave Neale: The Storyteller

    Guest: Dave NealeCareer: Game Designer and WriterBased: Home in Cambridge but also NomadicWebsite: www.dneale.comInstagram: @davenealewriter Episode Description Dave Neale did the sensible thing. He studied English literature at university, got a PhD in psychology from Cambridge, became a Cambridge professor, and built a proper academic career. Then one evening, he rewrote the rules for an old Sherlock Holmes board game, not for money or career advancement, but just because he wanted to see people play it. He sent it to a publisher on a whim. That casual email changed everything.Today, Dave designs narrative games whilst living nomadically across Europe. His work ranges from text-heavy narrative games as long as novels to jigsaw puzzle mechanics where you build maps piece by piece. I experienced one of his creations firsthand: a 36-hour murder mystery in a French castle that left me and the other guests absolutely stunned.In this conversation, Dave shares his philosophy of play: making things because the process itself is worthwhile, not because you're demanding specific outcomes. We explore how childhood dreams of writing and travel got buried under "real life" practicality, how making a game just for fun accidentally became a career, and why following what's interesting leads somewhere interesting.This is a masterclass in trusting that doing what you love will lead somewhere worthwhile. Timestamps00:00-00:27 Introduction00:27-01:28 Guest introduction01:28-02:06 Are you a nomad?02:06-03:18 Writer and game designer03:18-04:55 Story or game mechanics first?04:55-06:31 Childhood dreams and routes06:31-07:11 Travel fascination as kid07:11-08:08 Discovering nomadism in 201608:08-11:22 2016 era vs post-pandemic nomadism11:22-12:50 Power of play and nomad life12:50-15:19 Play, bonding, and community15:19-17:54 Psychology of play in groups17:54-20:20 Play mindset: process over outcome20:20-21:37 Game designer nomads21:37-24:32 Location independence in game design24:32-26:33 Cambridge researcher and professor26:33-28:57 Sherlock Holmes game and first contract28:57-30:28 Win-win philosophy and non-neediness30:28-33:22 Second career path and future33:22-34:04 Closing About This PodcastReal conversations with successful digital nomads who've built sustainable location-independent income. Strategic insights on how they transitioned, what income streams they built, and what they wish they'd known earlier. No travel tips or lifestyle fluff.  Host Ibi Malik helps ambitious professionals transition to nomadic careers without income sacrifice. HostIbi Malik helps ambitious professionals transition to nomadic careers without income sacrifice. To watch the video follow this link: https://youtu.be/nJvCTvB9g8U  Follow for weekly episodes featuring professionals who've successfully built nomadic income streams. Episode length: ~34 minutesPublished: 6th March 2026Episode #8  Guest Reflection The Storyteller Who Stopped Planning and Started Playing I found myself talking with Dave at a co-living chateau in Normandy, the kind of place where conversations naturally drift towards the unconventional. He'd just run a murder mystery that took us 36 hours to solve, and I wanted to understand how someone goes from Cambridge University lecturer to creating intricate games whilst travelling the world. His answer came down to one word: play. Play as in trying things without demanding they become anything. Play as in doing what you love because the process itself matters. Play as in the opposite of strategic career planning. It's the philosophy that accidentally gave him back the two childhood dreams he'd buried years ago. The Dreams That Got Practical As a kid, Dave dreamt of telling stories and travel. He wanted narratives and adventure. "I remember as a kid having these ideas about travel and being fascinated by travel, just thinking about hiking across the UK or travelling around in a van. That travel idea was in my mind. The idea of the exoticness of travel and the people you might meet." Then adolescence arrived with its practical questions. What will you study? What career makes sense? How will you support yourself? "I guess it felt like a childhood idea that sort of faded out in my teens, and when I went to university and into adulthood, it became more like, oh yeah, in real life you pick a place and you live there and you do a job. It's more stable." Real life. The phrase everyone uses when they mean conforming to what's sensible. Dave went to university for English literature because he still wanted to write. Then graduated and hit the wall every creative hits: you can't just apply for a job as a novelist. Publishing doesn't work that way. You need something practical whilst you figure out the writing part. So he did a PhD in psychology and went on to work at Cambridge University. By that point, the childhood dreams were properly buried. He'd found his thing. "I kind of thought, okay, I found my thing. I like research, I like science, academia and academic discussions and debates and philosophy." The writing dream? Shelved. The travel dream? Occasionally thought about but never seriously pursued. So he thought. The Game He Made Just Because Whilst working full-time at Cambridge, Dave discovered an old Sherlock Holmes board game. He loved the concept. Solving mysteries. Following clues. The intersection of storytelling and puzzles. So he started writing new mysteries for it. Changed some of the rules. Made it work better. Created an entirely new version, essentially. When I asked why, his answer was immediate: "I wanted to make it. I wanted to see people play it. I wanted to experience that. I didn't do it because I wanted money or because I wanted to change my job. I did it for the love of doing the thing." He wasn't building towards anything. He was a full-time academic with a stable career. This was just something he did on the side because he enjoyed doing it. Then he noticed a publisher was republishing the original Sherlock Holmes game. On a whim, he sent them his new mysteries. Casual email. No expectations. Just: I made these, if you're interested. They were interested. They offered him a contract for his first game. That email, sent without any strategic intent, became the pivot point that changed everything. The Win-Win That Became a Career Here's what makes Dave's story different from most career transition narratives. He didn't position himself strategically. He didn't study the game design industry or build a portfolio or network at industry events. He made something he loved, shared it without demanding anything in return, and let the outcome be whatever it would be. "It was almost a win-win. If I made those mysteries and made that game and it never changed my life, but I'd made it and I'd seen people play it, I'd felt great. I wouldn't have lost or failed or anything. And the fact it did completely change my life, even better." Win if nothing happens beyond the satisfaction of making it. Win if it changes everything. That's the opposite of how career advice usually works. Most advice is about optimising for outcomes. Build the right skills. Network strategically. Create work that demonstrates market value. Position yourself for opportunities. Dave optimised for the process. He made something because making it felt meaningful. The outcome, becoming a published game designer, was bonus. That first contract led to more. His niche became clear: writing and storytelling within games. "My kind of niche in the game design world is writing and storytelling and combining games with stories and figuring out how best to tell a story through a game format." The variety in game design keeps him interested. Every project requires different skills and approaches. The Second Dream Returns In 2016, during his PhD years, Dave discovered digital nomadism. The concept that you could work whilst travelling. That work and location didn't have to be permanently tied together. That childhood fascination with travel, the one he'd dismissed as impractical, suddenly had a framework. "I discovered the concept of digital nomadism. So that was in 2016 and went on one trip. I kind of knew about it, but I still wasn't in a place to really do it." At first, he could only do short stints. Go to a co-living for a month. Return to Cambridge. Do it again later. He was still anchored to academia, still building the life that would eventually let him travel properly. But even then, he knew. "It was calling to me the whole time. I just didn't set out to build my life around it that much, but I knew I wanted to do it if I could." After leaving Cambridge and establishing himself as a game designer, the second dream became possible. He kept a room in Cambridge, somewhere to return to with his stuff. But he spent most of his time travelling. Co-livings became his base. Writing mysteries and designing games from different countries. Meeting people. Experiencing the adventure that had called to him as a kid. There's a connection between his play philosophy and nomadic life. Both require the same mindset. Play means trying things without demanding specific outcomes. Nomadism means going places without needing them to be perfect. Both require being comfortable with uncertainty. Both reward curiosity over control. When I asked about being a nomad, there was a slight pause before he confirmed yes. The pause? "I do have a home base. I do have a place I rent in Cambridge, just like a room in a house that I keep so I can go back, and it has my stuff in it. But at least for the last couple of years, I have spent most of my time travelling." He's not ideologically committed to pure nomadism any more than he's ideologically committed to one particular career path. He does what makes sense right now. Keeps a room because having a base feels important. Travels most of the time because that's what he wants. Tha

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