Yelena McElwain discovered FIRE (Financial Independence, Retire Early) at 25 when she read Tim Ferriss's "The Four Hour Workweek." But she didn't want to start a business like Ferriss did. Instead, she kept working as a data analyst, saved intentionally, and hit her financial independence number in ten years. Not because she was aiming for exactly ten years, but because she had a concrete target based on her spending: roughly 200 times her monthly expenses, or 25 times her annual spending. When the 4% rule is working in your favour, that's your ticket out. She didn't quit immediately when she hit her number. She continued working for another 3-4 years while projects started shifting in directions she didn't want to go. Then she left, travelled full-time for three years, settled in Denver for another three, and now she dives on shipwrecks, practises yoga, and teaches meditation. She teaches Instinctive Meditation, a practice rooted in The Radiance Sutras, honouring individual nature rather than forcing rigid techniques. Here's the twist that breaks all the assumptions about early retirement: she spends less now than when she was working. Her childhood in 1990s Russia taught her frugality, her Russian parents prepared her to always be ready, and that foundation made saving as natural as breathing. This is not a story about luck. It's a spreadsheet equation anyone can solve if they treat freedom as a number rather than a fantasy. Timestamps 00:00 Introduction 00:37 Ibi's intro of Yelena, FIRE formula explanation 01:05 The 4% rule, ten-year journey, diving and meditation 01:34 Conversation beginning 01:45 How long nomadic, six years almost 02:00 Three years full-time nomad, three years half-time 03:00 Quit job whilst full-time nomading, got tired of travel, moved to Denver 03:30 Countries visited, Mexico, Colombia, Vietnam, Bali 04:30 Average 10-12 countries per year, one month each 05:45 Dive master training, diving on shipwrecks 06:24 Discovered FIRE at 25, Tim Ferriss \"Four Hour Workweek\ 07:21 FIRE wasn't earth-shattering initially, unsure if it was for her 08:00 Tim Ferriss business path versus saving path 08:40 Data analysis career, studied economics 09:50 Data science explosion, right place right time 10:15 FIRE inspiration, saving mentality, not becoming big spender 11:00 Russian childhood foundation, frugality mindset 12:00 Set monetary target based on spending 13:00 The 4% rule explained, 200 times monthly spending 14:30 Portfolio growth assumptions, inflation adjustments 15:30 Real estate versus stock market investments 16:30 Ten-year saving journey, reaching financial independence goal 17:30 Continued working 3-4 years after hitting number 18:30 Projects not going in desired direction, decision to quit 19:30 Travelling whilst still working, remote work flexibility 20:30 First month or two identity crisis after retiring Remaining timestamps are in the full write-up linked below. Full write-up and transcript: https://www.ibimalik.com/podcast/yelena-mcelwain Guest website: www.meditation-compass.com Watch: https://youtu.be/1RPghL9albQ