Guest: Julie Bold — Overland truck leader, writer, retiring nomad Based: Wales I'm at Maraya with Jules, and she opens the conversation by closing it: "No, I'm giving up co-living." She started at 22 in Hong Kong, washed up at CO404 in San Cristóbal during Covid without knowing what a digital nomad was, and has been moving ever since — teaching English online and hating it, editing a scientific journal for four years, writing a travel blog she loved and couldn't monetise. Then she set herself a challenge: Istanbul to India overland, alone, still working. Turkey, Georgia, Armenia, Russia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Pakistan, India — editing offline, vlogging daily, sometimes sleeping in a tent at the side of the road. "That was the first time I'd really travelled raw and rough." It showed her what she could handle, so she applied to lead an overland truck. Three weeks into training they sent her to West Africa. What follows is not a travel-tips episode. Twenty-four passengers aged 19 to 78, eleven nationalities, wild camping three nights in four. A closed border between Nigeria and Cameroon in the middle of an anglophone conflict, crossed on the back of a motorbike. Five days camped at a police station with their passports confiscated — "literally the best four days of the trip." And there, fifteen people sent back from Nigeria after being trafficked, stranded because none could afford the fare home. Twenty dollars each. They paid it. She talks about privilege the way someone does who has seen both sides: a rubbish dump outside Podgorica when she was 22, a child in it, and the Bay of Kotor a few kilometres down the road. "It's like 5% or 4%" of the world born where we were born. Not merit. Luck. Timestamps 00:00 Introduction: people with interesting lives, and welcome Jules 00:29 "No, I'm giving up co-living" — why the road is ending 00:54 CO404 in San Cristóbal: volunteering, and meeting actual digital nomads 03:26 Teaching English online, and hating every minute of it 07:30 Fear of rejection as the block, and being pushed through it 10:52 Istanbul to India by land: Turkey, the -stans, Pakistan, India 12:31 "I can do it": four jobs, tents by the road, and finding her ceiling 14:02 Applying to lead an overland truck, and training with Dragoman 15:44 Twenty-four passengers, 19 to 78, eleven nationalities, one truck 19:44 The Nigeria-Cameroon border, an anglophone conflict and a closed convoy 22:13 Crossing no man's land on the back of a motorbike 24:35 The police take the passports, and her brain finally switches off 27:23 Trafficking at the border: passports taken, fifteen people stranded 29:53 "$20 per person" — and what it buys 31:21 The truck that crashed, the driver who stayed, and $500 sent after him 37:55 What West Africa taught her about a convenient Western life 44:08 Montenegro, a bicycle, and a city's rubbish dump 48:05 The child in the rubbish, and the smell she has never forgotten 51:36 "It's like 5% or 4%": born in Europe by chance, not by merit Remaining timestamps are in the full write-up linked below. Full write-up and transcript: https://www.ibimalik.com/podcast/julie-bold Guest Instagram: https://instagram.com/realttravel